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Re: SIMD Considered Harmful

From scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Subject Re: SIMD Considered Harmful
Newsgroups comp.arch
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Date 2026-09-28 15:29 +0000

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BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> writes:
>On 9/26/2026 4:31 PM, MitchAlsup wrote:
>> 

>> The well published X-zillion 4KB random reads per second does not have
>> any of those 4KB pages touched by CPU instructions ?? So, it measures
>> only the PCIe perf and not memory perf.
>>   
>
>Yeah. I can't really help but feel at least a little skeptical about 
>GB/s speeds being reported off of NVMe M.2 SSDs.
>
>Maybe if there is some special mechanism to move blocks between the SSD 
>and RAM without needing to go through the CPU, or somehow multiple CPU 
>cores working in parallel for SSD IO.

Perhaps you're thinking of the six-plus decade old technique of
Direct Memory Access (DMA) by peripherals?

Given modern interconnect (cpu and device) technologies (e.g. PCIe) pretty
much _all_ peripheral data is moved without CPU intervention.

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SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-24 00:00 +0000
  Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-24 02:05 +0000
    Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-24 17:09 +0000
      Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-25 00:08 +0000
        Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-25 00:41 +0000
          Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-25 22:13 +0000
            Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-26 00:29 +0000
              Re: SIMD Considered Harmful anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-09-26 06:41 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-26 18:23 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-09-26 14:47 -0500
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-26 21:31 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-09-26 20:56 -0500
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-28 15:29 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 17:39 -0500
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-29 00:09 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-10-13 21:40 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:01 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:49 -0500
    Re: SIMD Considered Harmful BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 15:04 -0500
  Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-09-24 07:54 -0700
    Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-24 19:48 +0000
      Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-09-24 13:58 -0700
        Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-24 22:24 +0000
          Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-25 00:27 +0000
          Re: SIMD Considered Harmful EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-09-25 17:44 -0400
            Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-25 23:03 +0000
              Re: SIMD Considered Harmful EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-09-27 11:33 -0400
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-28 00:04 +0000
                Re: SIMD Considered Harmful EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-09-29 12:17 -0400
  Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-09-26 11:26 +0000
    Re: SIMD Considered Harmful Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-09-26 17:57 +0200
    Re: SIMD Considered Harmful BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-09-26 13:52 -0500
      Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-26 21:24 +0000
    Re: SIMD Considered Harmful MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-26 21:16 +0000
  Re: SIMD Considered Harmful aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid - 2026-09-28 09:53 +0000

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