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GE Smart Light Bulb reset

Started byClifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
First post2019-06-20 15:29 +1000
Last post2019-06-23 20:13 -0700
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  GE Smart Light Bulb reset Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2019-06-20 15:29 +1000
    Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2019-06-19 22:52 -0700
      Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2019-06-20 22:05 +1000
    Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2019-06-21 15:47 +0300
      Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 06:20 -0700
      Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2019-06-22 09:36 +1000
        Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 17:31 -0700
          Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2019-06-22 19:17 +0100
          Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset "A.P. Richelieu" <aprichelieu@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 00:04 +0200
            Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2019-06-24 01:20 +0100
              Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset "A.P. Richelieu" <aprichelieu@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 05:06 +0200
                Re: GE Smart Light Bulb reset Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2019-06-23 20:13 -0700

#28686 — GE Smart Light Bulb reset

FromClifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
Date2019-06-20 15:29 +1000
SubjectGE Smart Light Bulb reset
Message-ID<lREOE.61366$cZ6.29855@fx47.iad>
It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>

If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.

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#28687

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-06-19 22:52 -0700
Message-ID<87r27on6r4.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#28686
Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> writes:
> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>

Lol, cue the light bulb jokes.  How many engineers does it take to reset
a light bulb?  None, they tell you to upgrade to the latest version.

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#28688

FromClifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
Date2019-06-20 22:05 +1000
Message-ID<7EKOE.62798$kt.43503@fx06.iad>
In reply to#28687
On 20/6/19 3:52 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> writes:
>> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
> 
> Lol, cue the light bulb jokes.  How many engineers does it take to reset
> a light bulb?  None, they tell you to upgrade to the latest version.

Someone should have told them that "How many X does it take to change a 
light bulb" is meant to be a joke, not an ambition.

Clifford Heath.

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#28689

FromDimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
Date2019-06-21 15:47 +0300
Message-ID<qeijls$pts$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#28686
On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
> 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
> 
> If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
> It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.

I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
no reason to doubt your post....

What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb? Any good
for a prankster working at the local electric company?...

Dimiter

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#28690

FromRick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com>
Date2019-06-21 06:20 -0700
Message-ID<98b2994b-90e6-4e43-81db-63b1eed21963@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#28689
On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 8:47:59 AM UTC-4, Dimiter wrote:
> On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
> > It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
> > 
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
> > 
> > If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
> > It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.
> 
> I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
> about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
> no reason to doubt your post....
> 
> What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb? Any good
> for a prankster working at the local electric company?...
> 
> Dimiter

Lol!  That's actually very funny, the idea that someone would deliberately cut power in that pattern.  Of course that is the exact reason why they made the reset procedure so complex, to prevent false triggering.  The only thing worse than having to do this procedure is to have your lights periodically return to their "dumb" state and be constantly on when a power glitch reset them. 

I had an outdoor floodlight that was also a motion detector.  It had a simple timeout where a flick of the switch on-off 1 sec-on would trigger the light to be on continuously.  I can't tell you how many times I found the light on.  These are two extremes it would seem. 

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  Rick C.

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#28691

FromClifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
Date2019-06-22 09:36 +1000
Message-ID<QRdPE.4$814.0@fx22.iad>
In reply to#28689
On 21/6/19 10:47 pm, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
>> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
>>
>> If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
>> It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.
> 
> I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
> about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
> no reason to doubt your post....
> 
> What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb?

It makes it forget all paired devices, returning it to factory-new 
state. I guess you use it if you don't want a hacker extracting your 
WiFi credentials or something after you sell or dispose of it.

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#28692

FromRick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com>
Date2019-06-21 17:31 -0700
Message-ID<e6aa99cb-a140-4dff-833c-cc694b37e6e6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#28691
On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:36:19 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
> On 21/6/19 10:47 pm, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> > On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
> >> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
> >>
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
> >>
> >> If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
> >> It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.
> > 
> > I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
> > about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
> > no reason to doubt your post....
> > 
> > What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb?
> 
> It makes it forget all paired devices, returning it to factory-new 
> state. I guess you use it if you don't want a hacker extracting your 
> WiFi credentials or something after you sell or dispose of it.

Sell?  There's a market for used light bulbs???  Amazing!  Is it a market like the stock exchange?  Can you buy futures?  Light bulb futures!  Very illuminating.  

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  Rick C.

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#28693

FromTom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2019-06-22 19:17 +0100
Message-ID<1huPE.436619$Szs1.3432@fx08.am4>
In reply to#28692
On 22/06/19 01:31, Rick C wrote:
> On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:36:19 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
>> On 21/6/19 10:47 pm, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>>> On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
>>>> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
>>>>
>>>> If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
>>>> It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.
>>>
>>> I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
>>> about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
>>> no reason to doubt your post....
>>>
>>> What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb?
>>
>> It makes it forget all paired devices, returning it to factory-new
>> state. I guess you use it if you don't want a hacker extracting your
>> WiFi credentials or something after you sell or dispose of it.
> 
> Sell?  There's a market for used light bulbs???  Amazing!  Is it a market like the stock exchange?  Can you buy futures?  Light bulb futures!  Very illuminating.

Sell? Probably when someone realises there are simpler
and cheaper ways of achieving the same (small) benefit,
and that care and maintenance of the damn thing is too
difficult and/or time consuming.

Or when a company's servers have been turned off, it
has become an expensive paperweight, and they are
trying to offload it onto someone with even less clue.

Me biassed? Shure shome mishtake.

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#28694

From"A.P. Richelieu" <aprichelieu@gmail.com>
Date2019-06-24 00:04 +0200
Message-ID<qeot1l$1v16$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#28692
Den 2019-06-22 kl. 02:31, skrev Rick C:
> On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:36:19 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
>> On 21/6/19 10:47 pm, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>>> On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
>>>> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
>>>>
>>>> If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
>>>> It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.
>>>
>>> I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
>>> about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
>>> no reason to doubt your post....
>>>
>>> What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb?
>>
>> It makes it forget all paired devices, returning it to factory-new
>> state. I guess you use it if you don't want a hacker extracting your
>> WiFi credentials or something after you sell or dispose of it.
> 
> Sell?  There's a market for used light bulbs???  Amazing!  Is it a market like the stock exchange?  Can you buy futures?  Light bulb futures!  Very illuminating.
> 

In the Soviet Union, there used to be a market for BROKEN light bulbs.

They were sold as BROKEN at 10-20% of the price of a working light bulb.
Anyone can figure out, why people would buy them?

AP

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#28695

FromTom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2019-06-24 01:20 +0100
Message-ID<CHUPE.35043$_%7.26841@fx21.am4>
In reply to#28694
On 23/06/19 23:04, A.P. Richelieu wrote:
> Den 2019-06-22 kl. 02:31, skrev Rick C:
>> On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:36:19 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
>>> On 21/6/19 10:47 pm, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>>>> On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
>>>>> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
>>>>> It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
>>>> about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
>>>> no reason to doubt your post....
>>>>
>>>> What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb?
>>>
>>> It makes it forget all paired devices, returning it to factory-new
>>> state. I guess you use it if you don't want a hacker extracting your
>>> WiFi credentials or something after you sell or dispose of it.
>>
>> Sell?  There's a market for used light bulbs???  Amazing!  Is it a market like 
>> the stock exchange?  Can you buy futures?  Light bulb futures!  Very 
>> illuminating.
>>
> 
> In the Soviet Union, there used to be a market for BROKEN light bulbs.
> 
> They were sold as BROKEN at 10-20% of the price of a working light bulb.
> Anyone can figure out, why people would buy them?

Reportedly, in order to obtain a working light bulb,
you had to present the one that was to be replaced.

Having been through the Iron Curtain 6 times as a
kid (only E. Germany/Berlin), there is some
credibility to that notion.

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#28696

From"A.P. Richelieu" <aprichelieu@gmail.com>
Date2019-06-24 05:06 +0200
Message-ID<qepenl$8mt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#28695
Den 2019-06-24 kl. 02:20, skrev Tom Gardner:
> On 23/06/19 23:04, A.P. Richelieu wrote:
>> Den 2019-06-22 kl. 02:31, skrev Rick C:
>>> On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:36:19 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
>>>> On 21/6/19 10:47 pm, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>>>>> On 6/20/2019 8:29, Clifford Heath wrote:
>>>>>> It took a very long time to realise that this wasn't a bad parody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BB6wj6RyKo>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you were the engineer who implemented this, kill yourself.
>>>>>> It's not a sin; you have no soul anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have difficulties believing it is serious.... (watched
>>>>> about the first 2/3 in disbelief). That having read and having
>>>>> no reason to doubt your post....
>>>>>
>>>>> What on Earth is a "reset" supposed to do to a bulb?
>>>>
>>>> It makes it forget all paired devices, returning it to factory-new
>>>> state. I guess you use it if you don't want a hacker extracting your
>>>> WiFi credentials or something after you sell or dispose of it.
>>>
>>> Sell?  There's a market for used light bulbs???  Amazing!  Is it a 
>>> market like the stock exchange?  Can you buy futures?  Light bulb 
>>> futures!  Very illuminating.
>>>
>>
>> In the Soviet Union, there used to be a market for BROKEN light bulbs.
>>
>> They were sold as BROKEN at 10-20% of the price of a working light bulb.
>> Anyone can figure out, why people would buy them?
> 
> Reportedly, in order to obtain a working light bulb,
> you had to present the one that was to be replaced.
> 
> Having been through the Iron Curtain 6 times as a
> kid (only E. Germany/Berlin), there is some
> credibility to that notion.
> 

Almost.
That would work in the office.

If you needed a bulb for the home, it was a little more complex.
You bought a broken lamp at the market, then went to the office and
replaced a working bulb with the newly bought broken bulb.
You could then bring the working bulb home.
After that, you told the janitor that the bulb in the office was broken.
He replaced the broken bulb with a working bulb, and then
went on to sell the broken bulb at the market, LOL.
Everybody wins!

AP

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#28697

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-06-23 20:13 -0700
Message-ID<87mui74qvm.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#28696
"A.P. Richelieu" <aprichelieu@gmail.com> writes:
> That would work in the office.
> If you needed a bulb for the home, it was a little more complex.

The New York Subway and some other public places in the US used bulbs
with left handed threads, so they wouldn't fit in normal fixtures.
People who stole the bulbs discovered this, and didn't bother stealing
any more of them.

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