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| From | pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch.embedded |
| Subject | Re: Makefile or IDE? |
| Date | 2021-12-03 23:48 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <soe6rf$brb$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <soabn8$b4e$1@dont-email.me> |
Il 02/12/2021 12:46, pozz ha scritto:
> When I download C source code (for example for Linux), most of the time
> I need to use make (or autoconf).
>
> In embedded world (no Linux embedded), we use MCUs produced by a silicon
> vendor that give you at least a ready-to-use IDE (Elipse based or Visual
> Studio based or proprietary). Recently it give you a full set of
> libraries, middlewares, tools to create a complex project from scratch
> in a couple of minutes that is compatibile and buildable with its IDE.
>
> Ok, it's a good thing to start with a minimal effort and make some tests
> on EVB and new chips. However I'm wondering if a good quality
> commercial/industrial grade software is maintained under the IDE of the
> silicon vendor or it is maintained with a Makefile (or similar).
>
> I'm asking this, because I just started to add some unit tests (to run
> on the host machine) on one of my projects that is built under the IDE.
> Without a Makefile is very difficult to add a series of tests: do I
> create a different IDE project for each module test?
>
> Moreover, the build process of a project maintained under an IDE is
> manual (click on a button). Most of the time there isn't the possibility
> to build by a command line and when it is possible, it isn't the
> "normal" way.
>
> Many times in the past I tried to write a Makefile for my projects, but
> sincerely for me make tool is very criptic (tabs instead of spaces?).
> Dependencies are a mess.
>
> Do you use IDE or Makefile? Is there a recent and much better
> alternative to make (such as cmake or SCons)?
>
It's absurd how difficult is to create a Makefile for a simple project
with the following tree:
Makefile
src/
file1.c
module1/
file2.c
module2/
file3.c
target1/
Release/
src/
file1.o
file1.d
module1/
file2.o
file2.d
module2/
file3.o
file3.d
Debug/
src/
file1.o
file1.d
...
Just to create directories for output files (objects and dependencies)
is a mess: precious rule, cheating make adding a dot after trailing
slash, second expansion, order-only prerequisite!!!
Dependencies must be created as a side effect of compilation with
esoteric -M options for gcc.
Is cmake simpler to configure?
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Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 12:46 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-02 15:22 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 17:34 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2021-12-03 13:15 +0200
Re: Makefile or IDE? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2021-12-02 09:48 -0700
Re: Makefile or IDE? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2021-12-02 17:34 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 11:49 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2021-12-03 18:27 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2021-12-04 14:37 -0500
Re: Makefile or IDE? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2021-12-03 20:51 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-03 21:28 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2021-12-04 14:53 -0500
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-04 22:17 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2021-12-05 11:02 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-05 13:16 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-06 13:52 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2021-12-17 17:19 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 23:48 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2021-12-04 10:31 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 16:23 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-04 17:41 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2021-12-04 18:49 +0200
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-04 18:23 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2021-12-04 21:25 +0200
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-04 22:20 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-06 13:51 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-06 16:33 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-06 16:02 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 11:54 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2021-12-10 18:35 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-10 19:44 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-11 16:18 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-11 17:06 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-12-11 16:57 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2021-12-11 18:53 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-12 14:15 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2021-12-11 10:01 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2021-12-11 18:47 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2021-12-12 11:27 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2021-12-05 11:11 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-12-05 13:21 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2021-12-06 15:45 -0500
Re: Makefile or IDE? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 10:43 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2021-12-10 09:30 +0100
Re: Makefile or IDE? chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2021-12-17 17:27 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? StateMachineCOM <statemachineguru@gmail.com> - 2021-12-20 17:18 -0800
Re: Makefile or IDE? chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2021-12-21 16:45 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2021-12-21 17:40 +0000
Re: Makefile or IDE? StateMachineCOM <statemachineguru@gmail.com> - 2021-12-21 10:55 -0800
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