Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.arch.embedded
Subject	Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor
Date	2013-10-01 02:55 -0400
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On 9/30/2013 4:38 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2013-09-30, Joseph H Allen<jhallen@TheWorld.com>  wrote:
>> In article<7x61tiayp8.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>,
>> Paul Rubin<no.email@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>>> Simon Clubley<clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>  writes:
>>>> It doesn't stop me from looking, asking, and wishing however. :-)
>>
>>> Some of the FPGA bitstream formats have been reverse engineered: a web
>>> search should find some info.  There are FOSS place and route tools but
>>> they don't generate bitstreams.
>
> That's interesting; I didn't know that. Thanks for that.
>
>>
>> Another thing to point out: the place and route tools used by Xilinx and
>> Lattice were developed by NeoCAD- a company which reverse engineered the
>> Xilinx format in ~1991, did a better job than Xilinx's own tools of the time
>> (apr) and got bought by them.
>>
>
> I didn't know that as well.
>
> That's one of the reasons I like open source; people are always been
> pushed to do better as you cannot sit on a closed source toolchain and
> then use your market position to stifle innovation.
>
> Simon.
>
> PS: I'm _not_ trying to start a closed/open source discussion here;
> I just didn't know about NeoCAD.

That is not why the FPGA tools are closed source.  It has nothing to do 
with stifling innovation.  Just the opposite, the vendors vie heavily 
using their tools.  In fact, I was once told that Xilinx spends more 
money on software development than they do on hardware development, lol. 
  At one time a *lot* of people preferred Altera because their tools 
were perceived as being more user friendly.  I think that perception 
waned a bit but from what I've heard is now picking up again.  So there 
is a *lot* of incentive to improve the tools.

I only wish the tools were open.  But in lieu of that, I'm happy with 
free (as in beer) tools.  The question I have is what exactly do you 
want to do with FPGAs that you need open source tools?  When you say you 
want to "play with" and "learn the technology", why can't you do that 
with the free beer tools?

One *big* issue I have with the current tools is that they *are* 
licensed even though they are free (as in beer).  It has been many a 
time the licensing got in the way of using them.  I now have it on my 
calendar to renew my license key every year around my birthday.

-- 

Rick

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Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-11 11:11 -0500
  Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Rich Webb <webb.ra@example.net> - 2013-09-11 12:45 -0400
    Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Frank Miles <fpm@u.washington.edu> - 2013-09-11 16:59 +0000
  Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-11 10:08 -0700
    Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-11 12:27 -0500
      Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-11 11:23 -0700
        Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-11 11:32 -0700
      Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-11 11:30 -0700
  Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-11 18:26 +0000
    Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-11 13:37 -0500
      Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-11 21:51 +0200
        Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-11 16:46 -0400
          Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-12 14:00 +0200
          Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid - 2013-09-14 10:24 +0000
      Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 02:38 -0400
        Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-15 01:52 -0700
          Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 12:33 -0400
            Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-15 13:02 -0500
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 14:33 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-15 12:09 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-15 22:12 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 16:32 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-16 09:17 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-16 10:21 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 13:53 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-17 07:31 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 04:46 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-17 10:46 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-17 22:30 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-17 22:43 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-18 14:35 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor upsidedown@downunder.com - 2013-09-18 18:41 +0300
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 09:12 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 07:57 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 22:22 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-20 05:44 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-20 00:05 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-20 14:18 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor upsidedown@downunder.com - 2013-09-20 16:24 +0300
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-20 08:31 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-20 12:43 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-20 20:29 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-20 21:39 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-20 15:27 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-20 23:52 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-20 18:52 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-20 19:38 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-24 01:20 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-24 01:22 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-09-24 03:33 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-24 21:17 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-22 10:56 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-22 20:08 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-22 12:21 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-23 00:12 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-22 16:50 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-23 09:12 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-23 06:49 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-23 16:31 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-24 01:13 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-24 02:15 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-24 15:56 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-09-23 00:46 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-22 23:18 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Arlet Ottens <usenet+5@c-scape.nl> - 2013-09-23 09:00 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-23 00:18 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Arlet Ottens <usenet+5@c-scape.nl> - 2013-09-23 09:27 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-23 06:56 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-09-23 10:50 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-28 13:04 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor upsidedown@downunder.com - 2013-09-20 15:41 +0300
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-20 14:33 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor upsidedown@downunder.com - 2013-09-20 15:55 +0300
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-20 08:42 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-23 09:06 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-28 12:07 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-29 22:15 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 00:33 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-10-01 10:25 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 10:26 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-03 19:07 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2013-10-03 19:17 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2013-10-03 21:00 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-18 11:29 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-18 10:20 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 21:53 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-19 09:48 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-19 09:38 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-19 11:24 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-19 10:53 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-19 13:12 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-19 15:31 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-19 15:44 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 22:53 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-20 08:37 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 17:48 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 00:37 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-01 09:14 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-22 21:31 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-23 00:19 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-23 09:23 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-23 09:00 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-23 11:31 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-28 13:02 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-28 22:54 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-28 22:33 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-28 22:29 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-29 10:01 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-29 23:02 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 10:36 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-30 14:09 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:27 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-01 05:46 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-10-01 09:19 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 03:28 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-10-01 10:13 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 12:39 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-10-01 16:56 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-01 18:59 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 17:25 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-01 18:37 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-01 19:29 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-01 19:31 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-10-01 16:36 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-01 20:51 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-01 21:08 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-10-02 09:08 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2013-10-02 09:36 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-02 17:16 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) upsidedown@downunder.com - 2013-10-03 10:15 +0300
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-03 02:32 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-10-03 15:45 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 09:06 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-03 17:18 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-10-03 16:51 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 10:11 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-02 09:52 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-10-03 09:35 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-03 03:26 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-10-03 13:27 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-03 12:55 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-10-04 16:59 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-02 01:02 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2013-10-03 16:28 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-03 08:03 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-03 19:15 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-03 15:50 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-10-03 15:27 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-03 16:37 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-03 21:51 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-04 00:02 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-10-02 00:12 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor (die evil thread, die!!!) robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-10-03 10:24 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-10-02 00:13 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-02 06:51 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-02 09:55 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-02 09:58 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 03:12 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-02 09:49 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 12:04 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-02 12:51 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-10-02 15:18 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 19:46 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-10-01 23:09 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-19 03:53 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 01:45 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-19 04:34 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 02:17 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-19 16:49 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 17:05 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-19 13:08 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 20:22 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-19 14:42 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 00:34 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 22:15 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-20 08:43 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-19 22:16 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-19 12:28 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-19 15:08 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 12:52 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-18 10:23 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 08:03 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-19 12:53 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 21:31 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-19 04:18 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 02:02 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 16:47 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor j.m.granville@gmail.com - 2013-09-24 19:54 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-25 19:12 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-25 11:50 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-26 01:26 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-26 09:11 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-26 02:12 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-26 13:46 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-26 09:55 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-26 18:44 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-26 12:31 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-26 23:09 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-26 08:45 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 07:44 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-19 03:58 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-19 09:45 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 16:50 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 07:31 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-17 11:30 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-17 21:11 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 13:11 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-17 11:42 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Al Clark <aclark@danvillesignal.com> - 2013-09-17 14:06 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-17 16:44 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-17 11:43 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 13:22 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-18 17:17 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-18 16:46 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 09:16 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 14:13 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-18 20:00 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2013-09-18 19:56 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-19 09:56 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 14:01 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 12:35 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-18 23:28 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-18 16:39 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 17:26 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-18 17:56 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-22 17:53 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-23 01:00 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-23 00:15 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-23 11:31 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-23 21:15 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-23 22:41 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-24 02:57 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-23 18:42 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-23 21:16 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-23 20:31 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-24 12:01 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-19 03:14 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 00:53 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-19 09:58 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-18 16:43 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-19 03:21 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 00:54 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 08:25 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-26 09:03 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 06:47 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-26 09:46 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 10:06 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-26 13:45 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-26 23:54 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 08:31 -0400
                Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-09-29 23:37 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 01:16 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-29 22:31 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 10:06 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 11:12 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-30 09:24 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:33 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-30 22:48 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 03:04 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-01 00:27 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 03:32 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-09-30 11:37 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 13:40 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 11:43 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 17:07 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 11:38 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-09-30 18:57 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-30 12:36 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor jhallen@TheWorld.com (Joseph H Allen) - 2013-09-30 20:15 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-09-30 20:38 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 02:55 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-10-01 11:50 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 12:53 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-10-01 17:34 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 17:31 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-10-02 12:15 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 12:19 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-10-03 11:55 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 01:04 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 00:19 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 23:07 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 20:06 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-01 22:38 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 03:09 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-02 00:51 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 03:58 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-02 01:27 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 04:24 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-02 01:54 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 19:51 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 00:17 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 00:27 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 23:09 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 09:30 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-06 10:53 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-09 05:12 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-09 02:24 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2013-10-09 12:05 +0000
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-09 08:06 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-04 10:01 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 09:38 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-04 15:25 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 10:35 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-03 09:43 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 00:29 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-04 01:04 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 09:40 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 10:21 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 19:54 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-03 09:48 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 00:21 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-03 09:55 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-03 04:45 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-03 13:02 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-03 07:19 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 00:02 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-04 00:55 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 09:45 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 10:06 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-02 02:24 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 10:57 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-02 04:31 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 15:45 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-10-02 08:29 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 00:47 -0700
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-03 09:59 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-10-03 10:09 +0100
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:51 -0400
                Re: Open source FPGA toolchain ?, was: Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 10:44 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-27 01:10 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 08:36 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-29 22:06 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 11:47 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-30 09:14 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-19 01:27 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-19 03:49 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 16:40 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-15 14:53 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 14:22 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-15 15:12 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-15 14:58 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-15 18:19 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 14:48 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-16 17:17 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 18:41 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-17 11:22 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 15:40 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Torfinn Ingolfsen <tingo@home.no> - 2013-09-17 18:44 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 14:31 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-17 07:44 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-17 11:46 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 09:21 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-19 12:26 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 20:17 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 08:25 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 14:16 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 12:39 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor langwadt@fonz.dk - 2013-09-18 15:18 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 09:49 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-17 07:35 +0000
            Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-15 13:11 -0700
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 16:26 -0400
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 16:36 -0400
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-17 07:49 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 05:30 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-19 10:00 +0000
          Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-16 16:51 +0000
            Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 14:54 -0400
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-16 19:06 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 15:22 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2013-09-17 09:40 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-17 11:48 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 15:50 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-17 21:03 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-17 17:05 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor gtwrek@sonic.net (Mark Curry) - 2013-09-17 21:16 +0000
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-17 16:38 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-17 21:33 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2013-09-18 10:48 +0300
        Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.please> - 2013-09-15 10:39 -0500
          Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 12:39 -0400
            Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-15 12:58 -0500
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-15 11:33 -0700
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 14:40 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.please> - 2013-09-15 14:25 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-15 13:35 -0700
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-15 12:40 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.please> - 2013-09-15 14:57 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-15 13:44 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-16 01:46 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-16 10:26 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-16 02:44 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2013-09-16 09:01 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-16 12:18 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.please> - 2013-09-16 10:06 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> - 2013-09-16 10:34 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-16 12:09 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-16 17:31 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-16 12:00 -0700
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-09-17 07:59 +0000
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-17 10:13 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 05:56 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-17 11:37 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 16:00 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-17 21:30 +0100
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 12:46 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-09-18 18:00 +0100
  Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-09-11 12:10 -0700
  Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam@nowhere.com> - 2013-09-11 14:30 -0500
    Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-11 15:39 -0400
      Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-11 15:46 -0400
        Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-11 20:39 -0400
          Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.please> - 2013-09-11 20:03 -0500
            Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-12 14:09 +0200
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-12 07:11 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-12 16:34 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-12 10:42 -0400
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor dp <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2013-09-12 12:48 -0700
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-12 16:14 -0500
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2013-09-12 21:39 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-12 23:41 +0200
              Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-12 16:08 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-13 01:00 +0200
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-09-12 23:03 -0500
                Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-13 08:47 +0200
  Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2013-09-11 15:40 -0700
  Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.please> - 2013-09-11 20:05 -0500
    Re: Small, fast, resource-rich processor Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com> - 2013-09-11 22:19 -0400

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