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Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore?

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Am 17.07.2017 um 20:52 schrieb Chris:

> One queston to ask is: do you really need to ship the firmware to
> China ?

That will only get you back to the issue I described 3 weeks ago: 
installing the secret yourself is not a solution either, because then 
you will effectively no longer be manufacturing in China.

If you have to ship all the stuff back to home base, unwrap it, open it 
up far enough to get at the internal programming interface to install 
firmware, then put it all back together again, and re-package for final 
delivery.  The overhead in terms of both delay and money will be 
considerable.  You'll effectively be manufacturing at home.

And anyway: how do you know you can actually trust your local employees 
so much further than your overseas contractors?

And of course a criminal at the Chinese end could still side-track to 
the black market devices with the testing-only software still on them. 
Good luck explaining to "your" customers why apparently genuine devices 
do not work _at_all_.

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Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-23 21:34 -0700
  Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-24 09:11 -0700
    Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-24 15:27 -0700
      Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-24 16:42 -0700
        Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-24 19:26 -0700
          Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-24 21:05 -0700
      Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? "Bill Davy" <Bill@XchelSys.co.uk> - 2017-06-25 10:37 +0100
        Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-25 02:47 -0700
      Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2017-06-25 13:05 +0200
  Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-24 21:59 -0700
    Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-24 23:14 -0700
  Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2017-06-25 07:59 -0700
    Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-25 10:43 -0700
      Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2017-06-25 12:43 -0700
        Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-25 13:13 -0700
          Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2017-06-25 13:18 -0700
            Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-25 13:53 -0700
              Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2017-06-25 14:05 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-25 14:24 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-25 16:46 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-25 18:19 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-25 18:57 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-25 19:14 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-06-26 09:26 +0200
  Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-25 19:27 -0700
  Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Stef <stef33d@yahooI-N-V-A-L-I-D.com.invalid> - 2017-06-26 08:56 +0200
  Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-26 12:35 -0700
  Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2017-06-29 16:09 +0200
    Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2017-06-29 10:44 -0700
      Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-29 20:22 -0700
        Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2017-06-30 13:44 +0200
      Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-06-29 23:35 -0400
      Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2017-06-30 13:33 +0200
        Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-06-30 17:11 -0700
          Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2017-07-03 12:05 +0200
            Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-07-03 10:16 -0700
              Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2017-07-04 13:32 +0200
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-04 13:40 -0400
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 14:14 -0700
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                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 17:09 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2017-07-17 18:52 +0000
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2017-07-17 21:38 +0200
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? jhnlmn@gmail.com - 2017-08-12 18:04 -0700
                Re: Is there a process for secure firmware install/upgrade for device made offshore? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-08-14 09:53 -0700

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