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Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux

From Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux
Date 2016-11-02 22:13 +0100
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Am 02.11.2016 um 19:21 schrieb Tim Wescott:

> This throws me, and I'm sorry I didn't mention it.  In Windows-land, a
> "terminal emulator" is a program that makes your computer emulate a
> serial terminal.

Hmmm... I've only ever seen those called "terminal program" --- a  breed 
including what was arguably the most broken pre-installed Windows 
utility ever, aptly nicknamed "Hypoterminal", because there was really 
nothing "Hyper" about it.

> In Unix-land, a "terminal emulator" is a program that
> runs under X and emulates the serial terminal that the operating system
> was originally designed to talk to.  So, they're two entirely different
> things with the same name.

There are terminal emulators like that on Windows, too, e.g. MinTTY or 
the ported rxvt.  And if all else breaks, one can always run X11 on 
Windows, including xterm.

PuTTY by comparison is a multi-tool serving as a terminal program, 
telnet, rsh and ssh clients, and a Unix-style terminal emulator, too. 
It really has to pack all those into one tool to be useful, since 
Windows itself provides none of them.  Even Telnet is absent in a normal 
install.

> The thing known in Windows-land as a "terminal emulator" is known in Unix-
> land as a "serial communications program".  The Unix-land "terminal
> emulator" is the Windows-land "DOS window" or perhaps "command-line
> window".

Windows itself calls them "consoles", and it interjects its own native 
terminal emulator automatically whenever a console application (i.e. a 
normal C program with a main() function) is executed by anything that 
isn't already running in a console.  It has to do that because Windows 
GUI programs otherwise have no connection to any console, i.e. no 
"controlling pty".

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ANSI terminal emulators for linux Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2016-11-02 17:22 +0000
  Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2016-11-02 12:26 -0500
    Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2016-11-06 13:12 +0000
  Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-02 18:12 +0000
    Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2016-11-02 13:21 -0500
      Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-02 18:52 +0000
      Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-02 19:02 +0000
      Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2016-11-02 22:13 +0100
      Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-11-03 18:36 +0000
    Re: ANSIOA terminal emulators for linux Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2016-11-03 11:47 +0200
      Re: ANSIOA terminal emulators for linux Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2016-11-03 06:43 -0700
      Re: ANSIOA terminal emulators for linux Petter Gustad <newsmailcomp6@gustad.com> - 2016-11-04 20:59 +0100
  Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2016-11-02 11:37 -0700
    Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2016-11-02 11:45 -0700
  Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-02 21:14 +0100
    Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-02 21:23 +0000
      Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-03 08:02 +0100
      Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2016-11-03 14:52 -0700
  Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 16:28 -0400
  Re: ANSI terminal emulators for linux Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2016-11-03 12:17 +0000

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