Re: Tone Deafness

From	Martin Brown <\|\|\|newspam\|\|\|@nezumi.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.arch.embedded, sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Tone Deafness
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Date	2013-08-16 09:16 +0100

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On 15/08/2013 23:48, Charlie E. wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:30:20 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> <tomd_u1@verizon.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Everyone can tell beep-beep from beep.

Only if they catch the first beep.
Single tone vs modulated tone is better and for long enough to be clear.
>>
>> My car is programmed to wait until it is going pretty fast, and then sound
>> GONG-GONG-GONG (yeah, 3 times and loud) to make the driver jump.  "Oh, no.
>> Something serious."  The info display gives details.  "Washer fluid low."

Mine will do that for frost alert which seems quite reasonable to me.
Not sure what it does for low oil warning yet - this is the first car I 
have had with electronic only indication and no physical dip stick.

> Even better is my car.  When it hits around an eighth of a tank, it
> 'stutters', i.e. it reduces the throttle for a few moments, so that
> you are aware that you are getting low on gas, but are not on reserve
> yet. It is fun enough when you are just cruising down the road to
> suddenly start slowing down for no apparent reason, but if you happen

That is scary. What model of car has such an insane behaviour?

Mine has a warning light that goes beep with 100 mile range remaining 
and will beep every time the car is started when range is below 100.

> to be accellerating, say from a stop at a red light, it will actually
> kill the engine!  Real fun to find your self stopping dead in the

How does that work? Engine management should never allow a modern car 
engine to stall on an automatic. My (manual clutch) car has smarts to 
switch the engine off when it is stationary at traffic lights.

> middle of a busy intersection trying to get your car to start again
> (What?  Did you remember you need to be in Park to start the car?)
> while cars going the other way are zipping around you...
>
I once had a weird immobiliser fault that did that to us in a busy 
intersection - nothing to do apart from get out and wait for a tow 
truck. The fault never recurred but failed unit was referred to the 
maker as the local repair guy couldn't do a satisfactory reset on it.

With no electrics you can't even put the hazard flashers on!

-- 
Regards,
Martin Brown

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Tone Deafness Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-08-14 17:24 -0500
  Re: Tone Deafness Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2013-08-14 15:43 -0700
    Re: Tone Deafness Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2013-08-14 17:18 -0800
    Re: Tone Deafness David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-08-15 08:53 +0200
    Re: Tone Deafness josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-08-15 08:48 +0000
    Re: Tone Deafness Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 10:17 +0100
    Re: Tone Deafness Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 12:09 +0100
      Re: Tone Deafness Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-08-15 10:47 -0700
      Re: Tone Deafness gof@somewhere.invalid (Adam Wysocki) - 2013-08-28 18:44 +0000
  Re: Tone Deafness Frank Miles <fpm@u.washington.edu> - 2013-08-14 22:51 +0000
  Re: Tone Deafness Fredxx <fredxx@nospam.com> - 2013-08-14 23:53 +0100
  Re: Tone Deafness Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 00:05 +0100
  Re: Tone Deafness Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 00:13 +0100
    Re: Tone Deafness Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-15 05:46 +0000
    Re: Tone Deafness Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-08-14 23:31 -0700
  Re: Tone Deafness John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2013-08-14 16:14 -0700
    Re: Tone Deafness Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2013-08-14 18:58 -0500
      Re: Tone Deafness Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 09:22 +0100
    Re: Tone Deafness RobertMacy <robert.a.macy@gmail.com> - 2013-08-15 07:53 -0700
      Re: Tone Deafness John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> - 2013-08-15 08:18 -0700
        Re: Tone Deafness "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2013-08-22 12:27 +0200
  Re: Tone Deafness Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-08-14 17:15 -0700
  Re: Tone Deafness Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-14 17:21 -0700
  Re: Tone Deafness Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 02:11 +0100
  Re: Tone Deafness Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-08-14 18:29 -0700
    Re: Tone Deafness "Tim Williams" <tmoranwms@charter.net> - 2013-08-14 22:51 -0500
  Re: Tone Deafness Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam@nowhere.com> - 2013-08-14 21:34 -0500
    Re: Tone Deafness "Tim Williams" <tmoranwms@charter.net> - 2013-08-14 23:07 -0500
      Re: Tone Deafness "P E Schoen" <paul@peschoen.com> - 2013-08-15 21:48 -0400
      Re: Tone Deafness gof@somewhere.invalid (Adam Wysocki) - 2013-08-28 18:42 +0000
        Re: Tone Deafness "Tim Williams" <tmoranwms@charter.net> - 2013-08-28 16:38 -0500
    Re: Tone Deafness Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 09:24 +0100
      Re: Tone Deafness pippo2@disney.com (Jack) - 2013-08-15 10:48 +0200
        Re: Tone Deafness Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 10:24 +0100
          Re: Tone Deafness Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 14:00 +0100
  Re: Tone Deafness Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-14 22:25 -0500
  Re: Tone Deafness Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-15 05:42 +0000
    Re: Tone Deafness "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2013-08-15 10:23 -0400
  Re: Tone Deafness "Tom Del Rosso" <tomd_u1@verizon.net.invalid> - 2013-08-15 08:30 -0400
    Re: Tone Deafness nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) - 2013-08-15 19:07 +0000
      Re: Tone Deafness "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2013-08-15 15:40 -0400
        Re: Tone Deafness "Tom Del Rosso" <tomd_u1@verizon.net.invalid> - 2013-08-16 22:23 -0400
          Re: Tone Deafness "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2013-08-17 04:26 -0400
            Re: Tone Deafness josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-08-18 05:00 +0000
            Re: Tone Deafness gof@somewhere.invalid (Adam Wysocki) - 2013-08-28 18:48 +0000
    Re: Tone Deafness Charlie E. <edmondson@ieee.org> - 2013-08-15 15:48 -0700
      Re: Tone Deafness Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2013-08-15 19:55 -0400
        Re: Tone Deafness Stef <stef33d@yahooI-N-V-A-L-I-D.com.invalid> - 2013-08-16 09:30 +0200
        Re: Tone Deafness Charlie E. <edmondson@ieee.org> - 2013-08-16 13:47 -0700
      Re: Tone Deafness T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> - 2013-08-16 01:50 -0400
        Re: Tone Deafness Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-16 10:16 -0500
      Re: Tone Deafness Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2013-08-16 09:16 +0100
      Re: Tone Deafness gof@somewhere.invalid (Adam Wysocki) - 2013-08-28 18:50 +0000
        Re: Tone Deafness Charlie E. <edmondson@ieee.org> - 2013-08-28 19:44 -0700
          Re: Tone Deafness gof@somewhere.invalid (Adam Wysocki) - 2013-08-29 09:26 +0000
            Re: Tone Deafness Charlie E. <edmondson@ieee.org> - 2013-08-29 09:17 -0700
  Re: Tone Deafness Ecnerwal <MyNameForward@ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> - 2013-08-15 12:05 -0400
    Re: Tone Deafness Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 17:29 +0100
      Re: Tone Deafness Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-08-15 18:00 +0100
      Re: Tone Deafness Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-08-15 11:16 -0700
        Re: Tone Deafness josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-08-16 02:56 +0000
          Re: Tone Deafness Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-08-15 21:47 -0700
            Re: Tone Deafness josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-08-17 16:36 +0000
              Re: Tone Deafness Don Y <this@isnotme.com> - 2013-08-17 11:49 -0700
  Re: Tone Deafness NotReallyMe <nrm@vallidatedsoftware.com> - 2013-08-16 10:23 -0700
    Re: Tone Deafness Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-16 17:29 +0000
      Re: Tone Deafness "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2013-08-17 04:32 -0400
      Re: Tone Deafness "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2013-08-22 13:10 +0200
  Re: Tone Deafness Jim Stewart <jstewart@jkmicro.com> - 2013-08-20 13:18 -0700
  Re: Tone Deafness bbhack <bbhack@gmail.com> - 2013-08-25 23:49 -0500
    Re: Tone Deafness bbhack <bbhack@gmail.com> - 2013-08-26 01:21 -0500
    Re: Tone Deafness Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2013-08-26 07:01 +0000
    Re: Tone Deafness josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-08-28 03:51 +0000

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