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| Started by | ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> |
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| First post | 2014-06-30 22:12 +1000 |
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]v[aths for fun and profit... ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> - 2014-06-30 22:12 +1000
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8@gmail.com> - 2014-06-30 13:35 +0100
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... Pope Pompous XVIII <popepompousxviii@popesnews.invalid> - 2014-06-30 14:57 +0100
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> - 2014-07-01 00:05 +1000
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... Earl Cup <earlcup@yahoo.com> - 2014-07-01 00:22 +1000
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... Pope Pompous XVIII <popepompousxviii@popesnews.invalid> - 2014-06-30 15:25 +0100
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... Paul Pot <PMD@SIBU.HQ> - 2014-07-01 00:15 +0100
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8@gmail.com> - 2014-06-30 17:29 +0100
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> - 2015-09-24 23:35 +1000
Re: ]v[aths for fun and profit... Prof. ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.com.canadia> - 2017-11-10 22:53 +1100
| From | ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> |
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| Date | 2014-06-30 22:12 +1000 |
| Subject | ]v[aths for fun and profit... |
| Message-ID | <lork88$231$1@dont-email.me> |
Hi All, A friend and I were having a spirited discussion about arithmetic in the discussion below. He contends that because Catholics only allow men priests to molest boys, they are only half as likely as the general population to be paedophiles, since there are no women. He's such a funny fellow... "On a more wholesome note, do you believe that the incidence of paedophilia amongst Catholic priests would be consistent with your quoted global incidence rates of 3-4%?" "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is for men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope you are able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic."
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| From | "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-30 13:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lorljc$bkc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67 |
"]v[etaphoid" <met@phoid.con> wrote in message news:lork88$231$1@dont-email.me... > He's such a funny fellow... > > "On a more wholesome note, do you believe that the incidence of > paedophilia amongst Catholic priests would be consistent with your quoted > global incidence rates of 3-4%?" > > "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is for > men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope you > are able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." That might hold true if the offending rates were even remotely similar for men and women, but males make up at least 96% of the total convicted offenders: "Most sexual offenders against children are male, although female offenders may account for 0.4% to 4% of convicted sexual offenders On the basis of a range of published reports, McConaghy8 estimates a 10 to 1 ratio of male-to-female child molesters. See more at: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/psychopathology-and-personality-traits-pedophiles#sthash.L8cOXXLD.dpuf
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| From | Pope Pompous XVIII <popepompousxviii@popesnews.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-06-30 14:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mn.f3817de67535b1a1.134914@pompous-donkey-tours.com> |
| In reply to | #67 |
]v[etaphoid wrote on 2014-06-30 : > Hi All, > > A friend and I were having a spirited discussion about arithmetic in the > discussion below. He contends that because Catholics only allow men priests > to molest boys, they are only half as likely as the general population to be > paedophiles, since there are no women. > > He's such a funny fellow... > > "On a more wholesome note, do you believe that the incidence of paedophilia > amongst Catholic priests would be consistent with your quoted global > incidence rates of 3-4%?" > > "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is for > men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope you are > able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've always been useless at maths. Let's try again: if paedophiles number 3-4% of the general adult population, male and female, then it follows that the number of paedophile priests *as a percentage of the adult population, male and female* is much lower than 3-4%, given the number of priests is only a small percentage of the adult population. That better? -- + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII "Our Western partners, led by the United States of America, prefer not to be guided by international law in their practical policies, but by the rule of the gun. They have come to believe in their exclusivity and exceptionalism, that they can decide the destinies of the world, that only they can ever be right" - Vladimir Putin, March 2014
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| From | ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 00:05 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <lorqs4$ig1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69 |
Pope Pompous XVIII submitted this idea : > ]v[etaphoid wrote on 2014-06-30 : >> Hi All, >> >> A friend and I were having a spirited discussion about arithmetic in the >> discussion below. He contends that because Catholics only allow men priests >> to molest boys, they are only half as likely as the general population to >> be paedophiles, since there are no women. >> >> He's such a funny fellow... >> >> "On a more wholesome note, do you believe that the incidence of paedophilia >> amongst Catholic priests would be consistent with your quoted global >> incidence rates of 3-4%?" >> >> "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is for >> men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope you are >> able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." > > Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've always been > useless at maths. > > Let's try again: if paedophiles number 3-4% of the general adult population, > male and female, then it follows that the number of paedophile priests *as a > percentage of the adult population, male and female* is much lower than 3-4%, > given the number of priests is only a small percentage of the adult > population. > > That better? Nope. Attempting to rewrite flawed logic retrospectively does not make it better, nor is it an issue of phrasing, as was evidenced by your backdooring it out of the thread. "Straight away that reduces the average by half..." Although I will admit to enjoying the irony of your attempted maths-based insult, "I do hope you are able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic". Nice touch, moron! Better stick to Nazis and your vehement denials of Saurez's guilt...
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| From | Earl Cup <earlcup@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 00:22 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <lorrrm$q0a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69 |
Pope Pompous XVIII formulated the question : > ]v[etaphoid wrote on 2014-06-30 : >> Hi All, >> >> A friend and I were having a spirited discussion about arithmetic in the >> discussion below. He contends that because Catholics only allow men priests >> to molest boys, they are only half as likely as the general population to >> be paedophiles, since there are no women. >> >> He's such a funny fellow... >> >> "On a more wholesome note, do you believe that the incidence of paedophilia >> amongst Catholic priests would be consistent with your quoted global >> incidence rates of 3-4%?" >> >> "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is for >> men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope you are >> able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." > > Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've always been > useless at maths. Just maths? Thank heavens we can rely on your rock solid knowledge and interpretation of international politics!
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| From | Pope Pompous XVIII <popepompousxviii@popesnews.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-06-30 15:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mn.f39d7de6f03c512c.134914@pompous-donkey-tours.com> |
| In reply to | #71 |
Earl Cup submitted this idea : > Pope Pompous XVIII formulated the question : >> ]v[etaphoid wrote on 2014-06-30 : >>> Hi All, >>> >>> A friend and I were having a spirited discussion about arithmetic in the >>> discussion below. He contends that because Catholics only allow men >>> priests to molest boys, they are only half as likely as the general >>> population to be paedophiles, since there are no women. >>> >>> He's such a funny fellow... >>> >>> "On a more wholesome note, do you believe that the incidence of >>> paedophilia amongst Catholic priests would be consistent with your quoted >>> global incidence rates of 3-4%?" >>> >>> "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is for >>> men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope you >>> are able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." >> >> Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've always been >> useless at maths. > > Just maths? Thank heavens we can rely on your rock solid knowledge and > interpretation of international politics! At least I don't walk around with the fanny batter of a 60-year-old ho bubbling in my nostrils. -- + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII "It would be easier for the world to survive without the sun than to do without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass" - St Pio of Pietrelcina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqIl7IB3n4g
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| From | Paul Pot <PMD@SIBU.HQ> |
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| Date | 2014-07-01 00:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <losr2r$dv8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72 |
Pope Pompous XVIII brought next idea : > Earl Cup submitted this idea : >> Pope Pompous XVIII formulated the question : >>> ]v[etaphoid wrote on 2014-06-30 : >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> A friend and I were having a spirited discussion about arithmetic >>>> in the discussion below. He contends that because Catholics only >>>> allow men priests to molest boys, they are only half as likely as >>>> the general population to be paedophiles, since there are no >>>> women. >>>> >>>> He's such a funny fellow... >>>> >>>> "On a more wholesome note, do you believe that the incidence of >>>> paedophilia amongst Catholic priests would be consistent with >>>> your quoted global incidence rates of 3-4%?" >>>> >>>> "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic >>>> priesthood is for men only. Straight away that reduces the >>>> average by half. I do hope you are able to understand this simple >>>> bit of arithmetic." >>> >>> Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've >>> always been useless at maths. >> >> Just maths? Thank heavens we can rely on your rock solid knowledge >> and interpretation of international politics! > > At least I don't walk around with the fanny batter of a 60-year-old > ho bubbling in my nostrils. *splutter*! -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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| From | "Mentalguy2k8" <mentalguy2k8@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-30 17:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <los3a4$jrb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69 |
"Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii@popesnews.invalid> wrote in message news:mn.f3817de67535b1a1.134914@pompous-donkey-tours.com... >> "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is >> for men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope >> you are able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." > > Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've always been > useless at maths. > > Let's try again: if paedophiles number 3-4% of the general adult > population, male and female, then it follows that the number of paedophile > priests *as a percentage of the adult population, male and female* is much > lower than 3-4%, given the number of priests is only a small percentage of > the adult population. > > That better? Not better, it's different to what you originally said but it's still wrong. A percentage is a percentage is a percentage, Popey. If 1 in 5 people are gay, that means statistically, 20% of the population are gay. If you isolate a small (say 5%) group of that population, the incidence of gay people is still statistically 20%, it doesn't reduce just because you've chosen a smaller subset of the original population. 20% of 70 million people is the same ratio as 20% of 6 people, 1:5 or 1 in 5 or 20%. And worse, by excluding women, you're actually making the point that the the (all-male) Priesthood is far more inclined towards paedophilia than the general (mixed) population, because the rest of us have plenty of women among us to bring down the average. The only thing I can guess that you're trying to say is that there are less paedophiles who are priests, than paedophiles who aren't priests. Which may well be true, but given that priests are such a small percentage of the population, it's meaningless unless you express it as a ratio.
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| From | ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> |
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| Date | 2015-09-24 23:35 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mu0u3u$arl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73 |
Mentalguy2k8 pretended : > "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii@popesnews.invalid> wrote in message > news:mn.f3817de67535b1a1.134914@pompous-donkey-tours.com... > >>> "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is for >>> men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope you >>> are able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." >> >> Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've always been >> useless at maths. >> >> Let's try again: if paedophiles number 3-4% of the general adult >> population, male and female, then it follows that the number of paedophile >> priests *as a percentage of the adult population, male and female* is much >> lower than 3-4%, given the number of priests is only a small percentage of >> the adult population. >> >> That better? > > Not better, it's different to what you originally said but it's still wrong. > A percentage is a percentage is a percentage, Popey. > > If 1 in 5 people are gay, that means statistically, 20% of the population are > gay. If you isolate a small (say 5%) group of that population, the incidence > of gay people is still statistically 20%, it doesn't reduce just because > you've chosen a smaller subset of the original population. 20% of 70 million > people is the same ratio as 20% of 6 people, 1:5 or 1 in 5 or 20%. > > And worse, by excluding women, you're actually making the point that the the > (all-male) Priesthood is far more inclined towards paedophilia than the > general (mixed) population, because the rest of us have plenty of women among > us to bring down the average. > > The only thing I can guess that you're trying to say is that there are less > paedophiles who are priests, than paedophiles who aren't priests. Which may > well be true, but given that priests are such a small percentage of the > population, it's meaningless unless you express it as a ratio. In retrospect, this place has been a lot more solemn since Popey made his spiritual retreat in the wake of this humiliation...
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| From | Prof. ]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.com.canadia> |
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| Date | 2017-11-10 22:53 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <ou440l$jb1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80 |
]v[etaphoid explained : > Mentalguy2k8 pretended : >> "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii@popesnews.invalid> wrote in message >> news:mn.f3817de67535b1a1.134914@pompous-donkey-tours.com... >> >>>> "No I don't. I'm not sure you know this but the Catholic priesthood is >>>> for men only. Straight away that reduces the average by half. I do hope >>>> you are able to understand this simple bit of arithmetic." >>> >>> Yes I could have phrased it better. I also readily admit I've always been >>> useless at maths. >>> >>> Let's try again: if paedophiles number 3-4% of the general adult >>> population, male and female, then it follows that the number of paedophile >>> priests *as a percentage of the adult population, male and female* is much >>> lower than 3-4%, given the number of priests is only a small percentage of >>> the adult population. >>> >>> That better? >> >> Not better, it's different to what you originally said but it's still >> wrong. A percentage is a percentage is a percentage, Popey. >> >> If 1 in 5 people are gay, that means statistically, 20% of the population >> are gay. If you isolate a small (say 5%) group of that population, the >> incidence of gay people is still statistically 20%, it doesn't reduce just >> because you've chosen a smaller subset of the original population. 20% of >> 70 million people is the same ratio as 20% of 6 people, 1:5 or 1 in 5 or >> 20%. >> >> And worse, by excluding women, you're actually making the point that the >> the (all-male) Priesthood is far more inclined towards paedophilia than the >> general (mixed) population, because the rest of us have plenty of women >> among us to bring down the average. >> >> The only thing I can guess that you're trying to say is that there are less >> paedophiles who are priests, than paedophiles who aren't priests. Which may >> well be true, but given that priests are such a small percentage of the >> population, it's meaningless unless you express it as a ratio. > > In retrospect, this place has been a lot more solemn since Popey made his > spiritual retreat in the wake of this humiliation... Personally, I think Popey may have actually been a Michael Thawe sock...
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