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Islam's gift to Europe

Started byNefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
First post2026-05-31 21:08 +0000
Last post2026-06-01 04:52 +0000
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  Islam's gift to Europe NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> - 2026-05-31 21:08 +0000
    Re: Islam's gift to Europe Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-01 01:38 +0000
    Re: Islam's gift to Europe Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-01 01:40 +0000
      Re: Islam's gift to Europe NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> - 2026-06-01 04:31 +0000
        Re: Islam's gift to Europe Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-01 07:01 +0000
          Re: Islam's gift to Europe NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> - 2026-06-01 09:16 +0000
            Re: Islam's gift to Europe Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 00:06 +0000
          Re: Islam's gift to Europe Michael Ejercito <MEjercit@HotMail.com> - 2026-06-01 08:24 -0700
            Re: Islam's gift to Europe Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 00:07 +0000
    Re: Islam's gift to Europe Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-01 01:45 +0000
      Re: Islam's gift to Europe NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> - 2026-06-01 04:52 +0000

#22273 — Islam's gift to Europe

FromNefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
Date2026-05-31 21:08 +0000
SubjectIslam's gift to Europe
Message-ID<10vi7vi$bml$1@pcls7.std.com>
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2058243286444224849/photo/1

Muslim immigrants commit more crimes than the native
population, by ratios such as

33 times higher for robbery
20 times higher for rape
27 times higher for attempted homicide
27 times higher for blackmail (one of the categories led by Palestinians)

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#22274

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-01 01:38 +0000
Message-ID<10vinqq$1tv5d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22273
The place-system number notation, including the digit zero.

(OK, that was actually copied from the Indians, and then passed on.)

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#22275

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-01 01:40 +0000
Message-ID<10vinv8$1tv5d$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22273
Ever wonder why so many stars have names beginning with “Al”?

It’s because it was the Arab astronomers who named them, and passed
the name on to the Europeans.

Similarly in fields like chemistry (“alkali”, “alembic”) and
mathematics (“algebra”, “algorithm”) -- all concepts that originated
in the Islamic world, and then were copied by the Europeans.

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#22278

FromNefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
Date2026-06-01 04:31 +0000
Message-ID<10vj1u8$ud1$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#22275
In article <10vinv8$1tv5d$2@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D?Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> Ever wonder why so many stars have names beginning with "Al"?

Infinitesimal contributions, all of which took place many years ago.

Basically nill contribution to modern science and math.

And...

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2058243286444224849/photo/1

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#22281

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-01 07:01 +0000
Message-ID<10vjanm$224nq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22278
On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 04:31:04 +0000 (UTC), rjac@shell02.TheWorld.com wrote:

> Infinitesimal contributions, all of which took place many years ago.

Remember why they call it the “Dark Ages”?

While the Islamic world was learning from the past and building on
that to make its own discoveries, the Christian world’s idea of
“learning” was making endless over-decorated copies of their holy
book.

And today, it seems some rather significant Christian nations want to
return to those times, with science denialism on the rise.

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#22282

FromNefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
Date2026-06-01 09:16 +0000
Message-ID<10vjilq$scn$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#22281
In article <10vjanm$224nq$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>> Infinitesimal contributions, all of which took place many years ago.

> Remember why they call it the "Dark Ages"?

Yeah, yeah. But the Christian world snapped out of it, about
500 years ago. The Muslim world did not.

BTW:

While you're busy frantically torturing AI to find contributions
to science made by Muslims:

1) How many Muslims won Nobel Prizes in the sciences?
2) How many Muslims won the Turing Award?
3) How many math theorems are named after Muslims, and when were
they developed?

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#22290

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-02 00:06 +0000
Message-ID<10vl6pg$2j8gl$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22282
On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 09:16:42 +0000 (UTC), rjac@shell02.TheWorld.com wrote:

> In article <10vjanm$224nq$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Remember why they call it the "Dark Ages"?
>>
>> While the Islamic world was learning from the past and building on
>> that to make its own discoveries, the Christian world’s idea of
>> “learning” was making endless over-decorated copies of their holy
>> book.
>
> Yeah, yeah. But the Christian world snapped out of it, about
> 500 years ago. The Muslim world did not.

And today, it seems some rather significant Christian nations want to
return to those times, with science denialism on the rise.

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#22286

FromMichael Ejercito <MEjercit@HotMail.com>
Date2026-06-01 08:24 -0700
Message-ID<10vk87j$2aduu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22281
Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 04:31:04 +0000 (UTC), rjac@shell02.TheWorld.com wrote:
> 
>> Infinitesimal contributions, all of which took place many years ago.
> 
> Remember why they call it the “Dark Ages”?
> 
> While the Islamic world was learning from the past and building on
> that to make its own discoveries, the Christian world’s idea of
> “learning” was making endless over-decorated copies of their holy
> book.
> 
> And today, it seems some rather significant Christian nations want to
> return to those times, with science denialism on the rise.
> 
     Like men can become women.


  Michael

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#22291

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-02 00:07 +0000
Message-ID<10vl6s1$2j8gl$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22286
On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 08:24:35 -0700, Michael Ejercito wrote:

> Like men can become women.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-determining_region_Y_protein>

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#22277

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-01 01:45 +0000
Message-ID<10vio6v$1tv5d$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#22273
Speaking of the Renaissance, where did the European painters get the
idea of perspective illustration?

The theory had been worked out about four centuries earlier, by one
Al-Haytham (also known as “Alhazen”), during the Islamic Golden Age.

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#22279

FromNefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
Date2026-06-01 04:52 +0000
Message-ID<10vj370$4uv$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#22277
In article <10vio6v$1tv5d$4@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

[flush]

While you're busy frantically torturing AI to find contributions
to science made by Muslims:

1) How many Muslims won Nobel Prizes in the sciences?
2) How many Muslims won the Turing Award?
3) How many math theorems are named after Muslims, and when were
they developed?

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