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Joe Biden Said He Was Going To Raise The Minimum Wage, And He Let A Fucking Year Go By Without Doing It

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  Joe Biden Said He Was Going To Raise The Minimum Wage, And He Let A Fucking Year Go By Without Doing It Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:27 -0800
    DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN! Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:28 -0800
    Underemployment Masks True Unemployment Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:29 -0800
    MAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars) Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:30 -0800
    A State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be! Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:30 -0800
    If Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:34 -0800
    March 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 1,376-Days Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:41 -0800
    California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-01-22 15:42 -0800
    California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
    March 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 1,376-Days Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
    If Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
    A State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be! Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
    MAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars) Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
    Underemployment Masks True Unemployment Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
    DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN! Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
      Re: DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN! vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2022-04-16 16:06 +0000
    California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com> - 2022-04-12 15:49 -0700

#2945 — Joe Biden Said He Was Going To Raise The Minimum Wage, And He Let A Fucking Year Go By Without Doing It

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:27 -0800
SubjectJoe Biden Said He Was Going To Raise The Minimum Wage, And He Let A Fucking Year Go By Without Doing It
Message-ID<ssi3te$2ju$4@dont-email.me>
Biden: "I Support A $15 Federal Minimum Wage" - Oct 22, 2020 - 1 Yr Now.

Now we have mass armed robbery:


Trump and Biden discuss if it's time to raise the federal minimum wage
Biden saying $15 Nationwide.
48,164 views
Oct 22, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axBYd5X1vEY

Trump saying at least $10 Nationwide, *_in 2016_*, NEVER passed this:
Donald Trump: Minimum wage has to go up:
18,472 views
Jul 27, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJoFHS44rII


While the poor suffer...

U.S. Per Capita GDP is $70,000.

U.S. Per Worker GDP is $210,000.

You don't raise the minimum wage 1 QUARTER for over 10 years, while there's 25% 
inflation per decade, while GDP PER CAPITA GROWS.  Your libertarian economic plans 
are as much quackery as Marxism.  You might as well let Monopolies flourish. 
FREEDOM.  NOT.  You have idiot Politicians arguing to bring in unskilled immigrant 
laborers from outside the Country, which will only further impoverish our country 
with population growth.  It's a simple a concept: Population vs. Property. Capital 
vs. Labor.  Consumption vs. Savings.  Yet if migrant strawberry pickers are needed 
they should get a permit and go home.

The minimum wage should be 50% per capita GDP, AFTER Taxes, or approximately 65% 
per capita GDP, BEFORE Taxes.

FREE CASH should be transferred to the non-earners of 25% per capita GDP.

FREE CASH should be transferred to the children, of 12.5% per capita GDP, while 
they're a still dependent on their parents.


The above should be based on the COUNTY GDP Per Capita.

Not to be lower than the lowest STATE'S GDP Per Capita, nor higher than the 
highest STATE'S GDP Per Capita.


STUDENTS NEED CASH.

POOR PEOPLE NEED CASH.

PETTY BURGLARY, AND PETTY ROBBERY, AND PETTY LARCENY MUST END BY GRACE.  THEY WILL 
NEVER END BY FORCE.

And end the Drug War too, which I'll follow up to this post with, and SAVE AMERICA.

Cops kill 3 people per day, 1,000 per year.  Cops arrest 27,000 people per day, 
10,000,000 per year.  The Constitution says you..."shall not be held, without 
indictment."  THIS IS NOT AMERICA.  THE UNITED STATES IS A FEDERAL CRIME.

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#2946 — DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN!

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:28 -0800
SubjectDRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN!
Message-ID<ssi3vg$2ju$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER 
AS PARTY-FUN!

Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be marketed as recreation!  Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be marketed as 
party-fun!

Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter poison, because that's what they are!

Poison!

Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter MEDICINE by permission ONLY!  Like Advil!

BUT, ALL DRUGS OUGHT TO BE FOR SALE ON DEMAND, SOMEHOW!  THEY OUGHT TO BE, AND 
ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH THIS, IS WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG!

GUILTY!

YOU ARE GUILTY DEA!  YOU ARE GUILTY JUDGE!  GUILTY!  YOU ARE GUILTY POLITICIAN WHO 
DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  YOU ARE GUILTY VOTER WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  GUILTY! 
GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MURDER THE JEWS, AND GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO ENSLAVE 
THE BLACKS!  THE LAW IS REAL.  THE LAW IS SCIENCE.  THE LAW IS NOT THE 
MAKE-BELIEVE OF A DICTATOR, BE HE A VOTER OR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE!  CHOOSE 
FREEDOM OR BE GUILTY!

okay, so back to what I was saying anyway,

You can't LEGALLY sell snake oil as a cure for cancer.  You can only say "snake 
oil is a cure for cancer," if you *don't* sell it; and you can only sell snake oil 
as the useless snake oil it is!  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil

Capitalism wants to sell you NOTHING: - a Star, land on Mars, Hawaiian sea water,
and Capitalism wants to sell you something, that hurts you - Drugs!  Capitalism 
just wants to profit, hence CONSUMER PROTECTIONS, and EMPLOYEE PROTECTIONS - 
regulation of commerce - have merit!


But it's my body, my Spraypaint, and my right to huff it!  God damn it!

God damn it!

It's my glue!

MY PROPERTY!!!

You have a right to possess property.  You don't have a right to larceny - that 
is, intent to deprive another of stolen property.  Hence you do not have a right, 
to knowingly possess stolen property.  Current statutes are supposed to be based 
on such common law, legal principles.  Not on malarkey.

Prohibitions of possession, hang on the notion that there is no right to possess 
property, and this is an abject LIE.


Also, it'd be drugs which are a mental impediment, and likely to be frivolously 
used, that should be sold out of sight, out of mind.  All drugs ought to be for 
sale on demand, over the counter, somehow.  AS POISON!

Who passed these drug laws, and infringed upon OUR RIGHT TO SELF-PRESCRIPTION?! 
Both infringements are ABJECT, HORRIBLE, HORRIFYING; CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.  Our 
right to self-prescribe is legal and just.  Our right to own drugs, and use them, 
is a fact.  It's my body, and my spray paint, and my right to huff it; though I don't.

Those who passed these drug laws, are mad scientists, crazies and criminals, 
perhaps the self-condemning.  We should not be bound by the idiots of yesterday.
"The world belongs usufruct to the living." - Thomas Jefferson, 1789


Drugs with habit potential ought to be distributed in a separate part of the 
store, BEHIND A CURTAIN, or through a SEPARATE NUMBER-ONLY, MARKED ENTRANCE.
DISTRIBUTING HABITUAL USE DRUGS - OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND, will help reduce 
recidivist use among those willing to stop.

No one believes that drugs are wrong; because DRUGS ARE NOT WRONG!  DRUGS ARE BAD!

Drugs with potential for recreational use, ought to carry instructions, saying: 
"this is a poisonous drug, not intended for recreational use.  However if you use 
recreationally, it is superior to use in this manner:"

For every day you use a drug, don't use it for three.  If you've been using daily, 
quit for two months, and go back to this max use.  This is use, rather than abuse. 
  Twice per month is better, and is the way most sane people party.  If you drink 
liquor merely three nights per week, you will seriously become an alcoholic.  25 
million people are alcoholics in America and drink 10 or more drinks per day. This 
is 1/2 a fifth.  140 million more merely use.  More serious alcoholics drink 1 to 
two fifths per day, that's 25-50 drinks!  A few, a handle, that's 60!

Drugs are actually A SOCIAL IMPEDIMENT, and A MENTAL IMPEDIMENT.  There's a 
marginal benefit, such as there is to riding roller coasters.  But who rides 
roller coasters more than four times per year?  And who thought roller coasters, 
or a movie, were very social?!

Additionally, drugs use up all your good feelings at once, or numb your bad feelings!

Classes of drugs in my mind:

1.Alcohol - Beer, Wine, Liquor.
2.Marijuana - like Beer.
3.Cocaine - like Liquor; Liquor is a dangerous drug.

For spirituality or meditation, non-addictive:
4.Psychedelics - Mushrooms, Ayuhauasca, DMT, Salvia, Acid.

On the line or over:
5.Ecstasy - Molly.
6.Amphetamines - Speed, Crystal Meth.

Batshit crazy:
7.PCP - Angel Dust.
8.Opiates - Codeine, Morphine, Oxycontin, Heroin, Fentanyl.
9.Benzodiazapines/Barbituates - Valium - not a party drug.
10.Huffing - 20 paints and solvents.

You don't want to inhale nor inject potent drugs.  Hence Crack is way worse than 
Cocaine, and belongs in the batshit crazy category.

Crack, Crystal Meth, Fentanyl, Heroin, are products of the Drug War.  Prohibition 
moves potency.  Alcohol prohibition moved liqour, not beer and wine.  These drugs 
wouldn't be for sale as more than insane novelties, like Everclear, if Cocaine, 
and Speed, and Morphine were available.  No one drinks Everclear, nor 151 Rum.

People know nothing about drugs.  About weapons.  About sex.  About living in a 
vehicle or tent.  AND JUDGE.  AND HIRE MURDERERS, TO MURDER ALL FOUR!

THEY ARE WRONG.
THEY ARE ILLEGAL.
FUCK THAT.
FUCK THEM.

BRING THE USA TO JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#2947 — Underemployment Masks True Unemployment

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:29 -0800
SubjectUnderemployment Masks True Unemployment
Message-ID<ssi40h$2ju$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
Underemployment Masks True Unemployment

If raising the minimum wage *did* increase unemployment, it would merely be 
showing us the *true* unemployment rate.

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#2948 — MAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars)

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:30 -0800
SubjectMAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars)
Message-ID<ssi421$2ju$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
MAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars)

This coincides with Trump and Biden's notion of 65% per capita GDP, of each of the 
3,000 counties.

This will be 50% of the per capita GDP, AFTER TAXES, of each of the 3,000 Counties.


Or else, better yet; determine the real 50% per Capita GDP, AFTER TAXES, of each 
of the 3,000 Counties (including state and local taxes).

Raise by 5% of the County’s per capita GDP every three months, or $1 every three 
months, whichever is higher.


United States per capita GDP varies,
from $31,881 in Mississippi, to $65,545 in Massachusetts (In 2009 Chained Dollars):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita
[The U.S. Department of Commerce uses 2009 as a base year: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chained_dollars]

Miss. at $31,881 * 65% = $20,722.65, /2080hours = $9.96/hr under this notion.
Mass. at $65,545 * 65% = $42,604.25, /2080hours = $20.48/hr under this notion.

Between the 3,000 Counties, the per capita GDP disparity, is even greater, than 
between the States.

Underemployment masks true unemployment.

Take 1-2 years to raise, so as not to shock.  (COVID just shocked, and they didn't 
give a sh*t at all).

So, every 3 months, raise the minimum wage 5% of the County's per capita GDP, or 
$1, whichever is higher, until it reaches 65% of the County's per capita GDP, or 
$65% of the lowest State's GDP, whichever is higher.  Or determine the 50% thing.


Trump and Hilary discussed raising the minimum wage, in debate in 2016, Trump was 
thinking of 65% of per capita GDP of the County, while Hilary said $12 per hour. 
Trump and Biden just discussed it in debate Oct 22, 2020.  While Biden says he 
supports a $15 Federal Minimum Wage, Trump says $15 would be ruinous in some 
Counties.  Trump should have gone with the prior notion of 65% per capita GDP of 
the County:
Trump and Biden in Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axBYd5X1vEY
Trump saying at least $10 Nationwide, in 2016, he never passed this: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJoFHS44rII

$15/hr would be too high in Mississippi, and too low in Massachusetts.
$15/hr * 2080hours = $31,200, which would be 97.86% of per capita GDP in 
Mississippi, and 47.60% of per capita GDP in Massachusetts (in 2009 chained 
dollars).  Yet we want 65% per capita GDP everywhere.  And to make it higher, you 
would have to limit spending at the top (which is a separate idea).  We have to 
protect capital savings.


Twenty-one States, have a State or Federal, minimum wage of $7.25/hr = $15,080/yr.

Five of those States, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and 
Tennessee, have no State minimum wage, yet only the Federal of $7.25/hr = $15,080/yr.

Sixteen of those States, have a State Minimum wage equal to the Federal of 
$7.25/hr = $15,080/yr: Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, North 
Dakota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, 
North Carolina, and Georgia.

The Federal Minimum Wage of $15,080, is 47.3% of per capita GDP in Mississippi, 
and 23% of per capita GDP in Massachusetts (in 2009 chained dollars).  Yet we want 
65% per capita GDP everywhere.  And to make it higher, you would have to limit 
spending at the top (which is a separate idea).  We have to protect capital savings.

It's like if you were trying to make the minimum wage in Mexico, the same as in 
the United States; it wouldn't fly.
Mexico's Per Capita GDP is $10,405, (Mexico's GDP _PPP_ is $21,362).
(Likewise Mississippi's GDP _PPP_ may be higher than $31,881).

We have to protect capital savings.  But we can't build an economy by not having 
an economy.  There will never be an economy for the slaves, if they don't build 
one through spending anything, relative to the existent capital.  We will never 
allocate resources correctly, and build the economy where we need to, if we don't 
start at the bottom.  We need to build the economy from the ground up.

I envision a much brighter future, for America, if we raise the minimum wage, as I 
indicate.  Look into the future, and see what you see.  I'm an economist.  Trust me.

Also, a low minimum wage is apparently correlated with a higher State prison 
population:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_incarceration_and_correctional_supervision_rate

The punishment for crime in most of the fifty U.S. States, is either slavery, or a 
dungeon, and that is abomination.


*NOTE, these numbers are actually not adjusted for inflation.  There is 2.5% 
inflation per year; 25% inflation per decade.  They have been discussing raising 
the minimum wage for some time.  Based on inflation, it would be as if Biden were 
saying 'make the minimum wage $19.50 nationwide,' and $13 per hour in Mississippi, 
and $26 per hour in Massachusetts.  Inflation is exponential.

The $13 is Hilary's $12 now, (Donald's $10(?)) with the inflation.  Hilary's 
already inflated 20% from the $9.96 listed at the beginning of this post.  That's 
how it would be $13, if for the whole nation.  The bare minimum; but not high 
enough, except in Mississippi.
If you go to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita
and compare Mississippi 2009 chained GDP to (scroll down) 2019 Mississippi GDP, 
you have $40,464/$31,881 = 1.269 = 27% increase over 2009.  United States total = 
$65,281/$50,577 = 1.29 = 29% increase over 2009.  Massachusetts $86,942/$65,545 = 
1.32 = 32% increase over 2009.  [So those previously calculated minimum wage 
percentages are even lower].

So I conclude, that the answer is:

Every 3 months, raise the minimum wage 5% of the County's per capita GDP, or $1, 
whichever is higher, until it reaches 65% of the County's per capita GDP, or $65% 
of the lowest State's GDP, whichever is higher.  Not to be higher than 65% of the 
highest State's GDP, and not to be affected by new States admitted to the Union, 
except as determined by Congress (New States will use States already previously 
part of the Union, unless otherwise determined by Congress, and States can have 
higher minimum wages themselves).

(So if your County's per capita GDP, is lower than the per capita GDP of the State 
of Mississippi, you use Mississippi's per capita GDP.)

(The State Government can still make the State minimum wage higher, if it wants).

Keep in mind there will be no money for retards under this plan.  The jobs that 
they ever could have worked will be eliminated.  However, I do not envision an 
increase in unemployment.  Rather, I believe raising the minimum wage will 
significantly stimulate the economy.  I envision a much more robust economic 
future for the United States.


Also, if the per capita GDP of Washington D.C. is really $200,000 as Wikipedia 
indicates, then this is why we also use just 65% of the highest State's GDP 
whichever is _lower_, for both Washington D.C. and any Counties who's GDP's are 
higher than the highest State's GDP.  At the moment New York State, $90,043 = 
$58,527 /2080= $28/hr would be the highest minimum wage in the Country, for 
Counties both in and out of New York State, who's 65% per capita GDP is as high or 
higher than $28/hr. Rather than indicating a $130,000, $62.50 minimum wage in 
Washington D.C.

Also, a useful link may be: Wikipedia "List of United States Counties by per 
capita income" This is not per capita GDP, but per capita income.  I presume 
they're using debt or asset spending to make per capita GDP higher:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_by_per_capita_income
[Data for the 50 states and the District of Columbia is from the 2009–2013 
American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates:
Data on the District of Columbia does not seem accurate or correlated in this 
page: $45,290.]

As for the 5% or $1 raise every three months; Start with the State’s minimum wage 
if it is higher than the Federal of $7.25.



Finally, TRANSFER FREE CASH of 50% of the after tax minimum wage on a monthly 
basis. This is 25% per capita GDP; to everyone over 18 years of age.  The net of 
the free cash plus earnings, cannot be higher than the full time minimum wage. The 
amount of free cash shall be reduced until recipient's earnings and free receipts 
amount to full time minimum wage, of 50% per capita GDP after taxes.

Part time jobs are the only mal-point there, but workers don't really have control 
over hours worked, and so it's not really a point.

TRANSFER FREE CASH of 25% of the after tax minimum wage on a monthly basis.  This 
is 12.5% per capita GDP; to everyone under 18.  The net of the free cash plus 
earnings cannot be higher than the full time minimum wage.  The amount of free 
cash shall be reduced until recipient's earnings and free receipts amount to full 
time minimum wage, of 50% per capita GDP after taxes.

So far, under this plan, there is no different minimum wage for people under 18. 
If there were, that would either get them less pay, or jobs easier, or some of both.

You can get 3 months forward and 3 months back, each, maybe; 6 months upfront if 
needed.  Amount is determined by residence declared in the highest County be Per 
Capita GDP, so people have more money if they move, to a more expensive part of 
the Country.


The point is not to spend nor to save, but to spend exactly the right amount, and 
on the right things (and to save exactly the right amount). Building the bottom in 
consumer products requires spending money.  1. Consumption, 2. Personal Property, 
3. Real Property.  Otherwise we will never build the Supermarkets and Stores which 
provide these products and what people want.  It's all a question of what to 
finance.  Due to COVID more spending at Amazon.com has built Amazon.com more, and 
will allow Amazon.com to reduce prices.  Building these companies is in the 
interests of the American people, as these companies can then have economies of 
scale like Walmart.  Average costs are reduced when quantities increase, and fixed 
costs stay the same.  But the free market must determine which companies to build.

Fiscal Spending can merely increase inflation and the interest rates, and these 
will only go up if we reach maximum output.  We need to stimulate the economy to 
make up for the lost businesses to COVID.  But we can only finance so much 
ultimately, and what is it that we want to finance?  Even so, the economy hasn't 
been at maximum output since 2000*.  Also, waiters don't produce anything, and 
would be better off building and buying dinning room tables rather than working 
as, and buying, waiters.

Other things we can spend on/finance include:
Transportation
Education
Housing
Water
Power

Needs are (in no particular order):
1. Energy, 2.Communication, 3.Food, 4.Housing, 5.Transportation, 6.Medical & 
Dental, 7.Education, 8.Sanitation

1.Real Property, 2.Personal Property, 3.Consumption

Not sufficiently developed nor therefore commoditized:
1. Mattresses, 2. Shoes(athletic, boots, supportive dress), 3. Housing, 4. 
Vehicles 5. Electricity.

And of NEGLIGIBLE cost, YET MANDATORY!:
Free Abortions - in the first trimester /14 weeks; there is no ghost in the fetus, 
and with no parental consent - this is mandatory.
Free Sanitation - Dumpsters and Porta Potties for the homeless - this is mandatory.

San Diego has free trash pickup for a large percentage of its residents.  Maybe 
ALL dumpster services should be paid for by the Government.  Otherwise it's the 
difficulty of charging homeowners for dumpsters while those living in vehicles can 
still have free access to dumpsters.  Porta Potties are not an issue in this way.

"Since 1986, the city has collected trash from single-family homes but not 
apartments, condos, private streets or gated communities. Residents of 
multi-family units and their landlords have to contract with private companies to 
handle their trash."
https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/government/the-san-diego-garbage-law-thats-fueled-a-century-of-trash-talk/

One's right to park a bus in a residential neighborhood, and live in it 
nationwide; if there is no notice not to park in front of, nor directly across 
from, someone's house, as view could be blocked, nor block business signs.  A bus 
or RV is a wall of car.  A vehicle with a kitchen, bathroom, and bed, is the 
minimum acceptable housing.  But a shelter is a row of beds for no more than three 
nights, and tent is miserable, but provides more privacy than a shelter.  Some 
tent dwellers have cars a few blocks away.
Everyone produces 1/2 bag of trash per day, whether they live in a vehicle, a 
tent, or a home.
Stop cities from betraying the public trust by having preferential parking where 
it is not needed - as they may rush to use this method to ban RV's.

(*rates were up from 2005-2007 tho)
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/interest-rate
https://www.jpmorganchase.com/about/our-business/historical-prime-rate

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#2949 — A State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be!

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:30 -0800
SubjectA State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be!
Message-ID<ssi432$2ju$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
A State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be!

The Federal Government needs to take charge.

The CITY of Birmingham, Alabama, RAISED the minimum wage, but in response, the 
STATE of Alabama, passed legislation stating the minimum wage must be the same 
everywhere in the State, which is ZERO.

Alabama only has a minimum wage because of the Federal minimum wage.

Salaries lag inflation.

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#2950 — If Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:34 -0800
SubjectIf Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work
Message-ID<ssi49q$51s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
If Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work

It still might be inadvisable, you should just be able to use the park, or 
sidewalk, or road, and not pay.  There are extreme benefits to communalism.

It's like, farmers need to be able to water all day in 100 degree heat.  That's 
the way work gets done.  They don't need to worry about paying.  Nor do people 
need to worry about paying to use roads or parks.  We should own them as the 
people.  Likewise we need to put in the water.  That's the way work gets done.  It 
would only cost several billion dollars out of a several thousand billion dollar 
Federal Budget.

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#2951 — March 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 1,376-Days

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:41 -0800
SubjectMarch 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 1,376-Days
Message-ID<ssi4nv$7bi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
March 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 
1,376-Days:
https://snowbrains.com/lake-shasta-ca-surpasses-4-million-acre-feet-for-first-time-in-1376-days/

5 years later, now on verge of drought.  The dam could be raised 200 feet, 
allowing for 10 million acre feet storage.  Or damn the Eel or Klamath rivers, 
both of which run into the sea.  Or revive the potentially polluting peripheral 
canal.  Or all four.  The farmers utilize 80% of the State's water capacity, and 
the consumer utilize 20% of it.  The Federal Water project is for the farmers, and 
has runoff for the State consumer water project.  The Army Corps of Engineers 
builds the Federal Damns which last, like the Hoover Damn, and hold, unlike the 
State's, which though newer, required evacuation of 100,000 residents in recent years.

Current situation:
"Shasta Lake is California's largest reservoir, capable of holding 4,552,000 acre 
feet of water.  Right now, it has 1,186,057 acre feet of water stored.  Breaking 
that down into percentages, the reservoir is at 26% capacity and 42% of average 
for this date."
September 7, 2021

https://www.abc10.com/article/weather/california-drought/reservoir-levels-california/103-a3f855d0-98ba-4597-b334-b30086c50cb6#:~:text=Shasta%20Lake%20is%20California's%20largest,of%20average%20for%20this%20date. 

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#2952 — California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-01-22 15:42 -0800
SubjectCalifornia Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In
Message-ID<ssi4pq$7bi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In

Raising the Dam at Lake Shasta 200 feet instead of the previously proposed 20 
feet, will add 10 million acre feet of Water (raising total capacity to 14 million 
acre feet).
Cite New York Times: 
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/01/18/archives/us-may-add-200-feet-to-a-coast-dam-cheaper-alternative.html 
:
"Many possibilities for tapping more water from the rushing northern rivers are 
under consideration. An increasingly plausible one, engineers say, would be to add 
about 200 feet to the height of Shasta Dam.  That would triple its storage 
capacity to 14 million acre‐feet, more than one‐third of the state's annual 
consumption, and would increase the reservoir's annual yield of four million 
acre‐feet some 25 percent." in January 18, 1979

The Klamath Reservoir will add 15 million acre feet of water.

The Eel "Dos Rios" Reservoir will add 7.5 million acre feet of water.

That is 32.5 million acre feet of water between the three.

Lake Mead and Lake Powell are the two largest reservoirs in the United States. 
They each hold up to 25 million acre feet of water, but they are presently at 34% 
and 27% capacity, each with only 8.9 and 6.5 million acre feet of water, only 15.4 
million acre feet of water total between the two. 
https://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/weekly.pdf

There is a drought every decade or so in California.  Entire farms could die out.

The Federal Government needs to put in reservoirs, like the Hoover Dam. Farms are 
industry.  Industry needs 100% facilitation to work.  Farmers should not have to 
worry about water, farmers should be able to water all day in 101 degree weather. 
Water should be like sunlight.  That's the way production gets done.  It takes 
money to make money.  The Federal government water project is for farmers. The 
State water project is for drinking water.

The above capacity numbers are capacity only.  Someone should research how fast 
these reservoirs would fill up relative to each other, that is, *yield*, and see 
if the water *capacity* numbers are really the most pertinent or not.


Here is pertinent intelligence accumulated so far, on, ca.water:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ca.water/y5tkrEW4Gkk



The California Central Valley produces one-third of all produce grown in the 
United States.

Possible solutions that apparently aren't:
1. Oregon - the Columbia River makes the border of the two States of Washington 
and Oregon, and starts in British Columbia, and empties tons of fresh water into 
the Ocean.  All the rivers in Oregon flow South to North.  So unless you were 
going to float the water down the coast in big tubes, that's not liable to matter.
2. The Peripheral Canal, was rejected by the voters.  I think they thought it was 
going to cause pollution.
3. Turning Salt Water into Fresh Water.  Some governments such as the San Diego 
County Water Authority, in Carlsbad, are resorting to this: 
https://www.sdcwa.org/seawater-desalination , as is Australia.  Is this really a 
cost effective solution?  Cost effectiveness may be all it comes to.

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#3013 — California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
SubjectCalifornia Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In
Message-ID<t34vgn$d25$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In

Raising the Dam at Lake Shasta 200 feet instead of the previously proposed 20 
feet, will add 10 million acre feet of Water (raising total capacity to 14 million 
acre feet).
Cite New York Times: 
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/01/18/archives/us-may-add-200-feet-to-a-coast-dam-cheaper-alternative.html 
:
"Many possibilities for tapping more water from the rushing northern rivers are 
under consideration. An increasingly plausible one, engineers say, would be to add 
about 200 feet to the height of Shasta Dam.  That would triple its storage 
capacity to 14 million acre‐feet, more than one‐third of the state's annual 
consumption, and would increase the reservoir's annual yield of four million 
acre‐feet some 25 percent." in January 18, 1979

The Klamath Reservoir will add 15 million acre feet of water.

The Eel "Dos Rios" Reservoir will add 7.5 million acre feet of water.

That is 32.5 million acre feet of water between the three.

Lake Mead and Lake Powell are the two largest reservoirs in the United States. 
They each hold up to 25 million acre feet of water, but they are presently at 34% 
and 27% capacity, each with only 8.9 and 6.5 million acre feet of water, only 15.4 
million acre feet of water total between the two. 
https://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/weekly.pdf

There is a drought every decade or so in California.  Entire farms could die out.

The Federal Government needs to put in reservoirs, like the Hoover Dam. Farms are 
industry.  Industry needs 100% facilitation to work.  Farmers should not have to 
worry about water, farmers should be able to water all day in 101 degree weather. 
Water should be like sunlight.  That's the way production gets done.  It takes 
money to make money.  The Federal government water project is for farmers. The 
State water project is for drinking water.

The above capacity numbers are capacity only.  Someone should research how fast 
these reservoirs would fill up relative to each other, that is, *yield*, and see 
if the water *capacity* numbers are really the most pertinent or not.


Here is pertinent intelligence accumulated so far, on, ca.water:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ca.water/y5tkrEW4Gkk



The California Central Valley produces one-third of all produce grown in the 
United States.

Possible solutions that apparently aren't:
1. Oregon - the Columbia River makes the border of the two States of Washington 
and Oregon, and starts in British Columbia, and empties tons of fresh water into 
the Ocean.  All the rivers in Oregon flow South to North.  So unless you were 
going to float the water down the coast in big tubes, that's not liable to matter.
2. The Peripheral Canal, was rejected by the voters.  I think they thought it was 
going to cause pollution.
3. Turning Salt Water into Fresh Water.  Some governments such as the San Diego 
County Water Authority, in Carlsbad, are resorting to this: 
https://www.sdcwa.org/seawater-desalination , as is Australia.  Is this really a 
cost effective solution?  Cost effectiveness may be all it comes to.

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#3014 — March 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 1,376-Days

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
SubjectMarch 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 1,376-Days
Message-ID<t34vh3$d25$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
March 30, 2016: Lake Shasta, CA Surpasses 4 Million Acre-Feet For First Time in 
1,376-Days:
https://snowbrains.com/lake-shasta-ca-surpasses-4-million-acre-feet-for-first-time-in-1376-days/

5 years later, now on verge of drought.  The dam could be raised 200 feet, 
allowing for 10 million acre feet storage.  Or damn the Eel or Klamath rivers, 
both of which run into the sea.  Or revive the potentially polluting peripheral 
canal.  Or all four.  The farmers utilize 80% of the State's water capacity, and 
the consumer utilize 20% of it.  The Federal Water project is for the farmers, and 
has runoff for the State consumer water project.  The Army Corps of Engineers 
builds the Federal Damns which last, like the Hoover Damn, and hold, unlike the 
State's, which though newer, required evacuation of 100,000 residents in recent years.

Current situation:
"Shasta Lake is California's largest reservoir, capable of holding 4,552,000 acre 
feet of water.  Right now, it has 1,186,057 acre feet of water stored.  Breaking 
that down into percentages, the reservoir is at 26% capacity and 42% of average 
for this date."
September 7, 2021

https://www.abc10.com/article/weather/california-drought/reservoir-levels-california/103-a3f855d0-98ba-4597-b334-b30086c50cb6#:~:text=Shasta%20Lake%20is%20California's%20largest,of%20average%20for%20this%20date. 

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#3015 — If Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
SubjectIf Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work
Message-ID<t34vha$d25$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
If Everyone Had Equal Consumption, Libertarian Economics Might Work

It still might be inadvisable, you should just be able to use the park, or 
sidewalk, or road, and not pay.  There are extreme benefits to communalism.

It's like, farmers need to be able to water all day in 100 degree heat.  That's 
the way work gets done.  They don't need to worry about paying.  Nor do people 
need to worry about paying to use roads or parks.  We should own them as the 
people.  Likewise we need to put in the water.  That's the way work gets done.  It 
would only cost several billion dollars out of a several thousand billion dollar 
Federal Budget.

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#3016 — A State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be!

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
SubjectA State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be!
Message-ID<t34vhh$d25$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
A State Option For The Minimum Wage Will Never Be!

The Federal Government needs to take charge.

The CITY of Birmingham, Alabama, RAISED the minimum wage, but in response, the 
STATE of Alabama, passed legislation stating the minimum wage must be the same 
everywhere in the State, which is ZERO.

Alabama only has a minimum wage because of the Federal minimum wage.

Salaries lag inflation.

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#3017 — MAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars)

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
SubjectMAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars)
Message-ID<t34vhs$d25$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
MAKE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained Dollars)

This coincides with Trump and Biden's notion of 65% per capita GDP, of each of the 
3,000 counties.

This will be 50% of the per capita GDP, AFTER TAXES, of each of the 3,000 Counties.


Or else, better yet; determine the real 50% per Capita GDP, AFTER TAXES, of each 
of the 3,000 Counties (including state and local taxes).

Raise by 5% of the County’s per capita GDP every three months, or $1 every three 
months, whichever is higher.


United States per capita GDP varies,
from $31,881 in Mississippi, to $65,545 in Massachusetts (In 2009 Chained Dollars):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita
[The U.S. Department of Commerce uses 2009 as a base year: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chained_dollars]

Miss. at $31,881 * 65% = $20,722.65, /2080hours = $9.96/hr under this notion.
Mass. at $65,545 * 65% = $42,604.25, /2080hours = $20.48/hr under this notion.

Between the 3,000 Counties, the per capita GDP disparity, is even greater, than 
between the States.

Underemployment masks true unemployment.

Take 1-2 years to raise, so as not to shock.  (COVID just shocked, and they didn't 
give a sh*t at all).

So, every 3 months, raise the minimum wage 5% of the County's per capita GDP, or 
$1, whichever is higher, until it reaches 65% of the County's per capita GDP, or 
$65% of the lowest State's GDP, whichever is higher.  Or determine the 50% thing.


Trump and Hilary discussed raising the minimum wage, in debate in 2016, Trump was 
thinking of 65% of per capita GDP of the County, while Hilary said $12 per hour. 
Trump and Biden just discussed it in debate Oct 22, 2020.  While Biden says he 
supports a $15 Federal Minimum Wage, Trump says $15 would be ruinous in some 
Counties.  Trump should have gone with the prior notion of 65% per capita GDP of 
the County:
Trump and Biden in Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axBYd5X1vEY
Trump saying at least $10 Nationwide, in 2016, he never passed this: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJoFHS44rII

$15/hr would be too high in Mississippi, and too low in Massachusetts.
$15/hr * 2080hours = $31,200, which would be 97.86% of per capita GDP in 
Mississippi, and 47.60% of per capita GDP in Massachusetts (in 2009 chained 
dollars).  Yet we want 65% per capita GDP everywhere.  And to make it higher, you 
would have to limit spending at the top (which is a separate idea).  We have to 
protect capital savings.


Twenty-one States, have a State or Federal, minimum wage of $7.25/hr = $15,080/yr.

Five of those States, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and 
Tennessee, have no State minimum wage, yet only the Federal of $7.25/hr = $15,080/yr.

Sixteen of those States, have a State Minimum wage equal to the Federal of 
$7.25/hr = $15,080/yr: Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, North 
Dakota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, 
North Carolina, and Georgia.

The Federal Minimum Wage of $15,080, is 47.3% of per capita GDP in Mississippi, 
and 23% of per capita GDP in Massachusetts (in 2009 chained dollars).  Yet we want 
65% per capita GDP everywhere.  And to make it higher, you would have to limit 
spending at the top (which is a separate idea).  We have to protect capital savings.

It's like if you were trying to make the minimum wage in Mexico, the same as in 
the United States; it wouldn't fly.
Mexico's Per Capita GDP is $10,405, (Mexico's GDP _PPP_ is $21,362).
(Likewise Mississippi's GDP _PPP_ may be higher than $31,881).

We have to protect capital savings.  But we can't build an economy by not having 
an economy.  There will never be an economy for the slaves, if they don't build 
one through spending anything, relative to the existent capital.  We will never 
allocate resources correctly, and build the economy where we need to, if we don't 
start at the bottom.  We need to build the economy from the ground up.

I envision a much brighter future, for America, if we raise the minimum wage, as I 
indicate.  Look into the future, and see what you see.  I'm an economist.  Trust me.

Also, a low minimum wage is apparently correlated with a higher State prison 
population:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_incarceration_and_correctional_supervision_rate

The punishment for crime in most of the fifty U.S. States, is either slavery, or a 
dungeon, and that is abomination.


*NOTE, these numbers are actually not adjusted for inflation.  There is 2.5% 
inflation per year; 25% inflation per decade.  They have been discussing raising 
the minimum wage for some time.  Based on inflation, it would be as if Biden were 
saying 'make the minimum wage $19.50 nationwide,' and $13 per hour in Mississippi, 
and $26 per hour in Massachusetts.  Inflation is exponential.

The $13 is Hilary's $12 now, (Donald's $10(?)) with the inflation.  Hilary's 
already inflated 20% from the $9.96 listed at the beginning of this post.  That's 
how it would be $13, if for the whole nation.  The bare minimum; but not high 
enough, except in Mississippi.
If you go to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita
and compare Mississippi 2009 chained GDP to (scroll down) 2019 Mississippi GDP, 
you have $40,464/$31,881 = 1.269 = 27% increase over 2009.  United States total = 
$65,281/$50,577 = 1.29 = 29% increase over 2009.  Massachusetts $86,942/$65,545 = 
1.32 = 32% increase over 2009.  [So those previously calculated minimum wage 
percentages are even lower].

So I conclude, that the answer is:

Every 3 months, raise the minimum wage 5% of the County's per capita GDP, or $1, 
whichever is higher, until it reaches 65% of the County's per capita GDP, or $65% 
of the lowest State's GDP, whichever is higher.  Not to be higher than 65% of the 
highest State's GDP, and not to be affected by new States admitted to the Union, 
except as determined by Congress (New States will use States already previously 
part of the Union, unless otherwise determined by Congress, and States can have 
higher minimum wages themselves).

(So if your County's per capita GDP, is lower than the per capita GDP of the State 
of Mississippi, you use Mississippi's per capita GDP.)

(The State Government can still make the State minimum wage higher, if it wants).

Keep in mind there will be no money for retards under this plan.  The jobs that 
they ever could have worked will be eliminated.  However, I do not envision an 
increase in unemployment.  Rather, I believe raising the minimum wage will 
significantly stimulate the economy.  I envision a much more robust economic 
future for the United States.


Also, if the per capita GDP of Washington D.C. is really $200,000 as Wikipedia 
indicates, then this is why we also use just 65% of the highest State's GDP 
whichever is _lower_, for both Washington D.C. and any Counties who's GDP's are 
higher than the highest State's GDP.  At the moment New York State, $90,043 = 
$58,527 /2080= $28/hr would be the highest minimum wage in the Country, for 
Counties both in and out of New York State, who's 65% per capita GDP is as high or 
higher than $28/hr. Rather than indicating a $130,000, $62.50 minimum wage in 
Washington D.C.

Also, a useful link may be: Wikipedia "List of United States Counties by per 
capita income" This is not per capita GDP, but per capita income.  I presume 
they're using debt or asset spending to make per capita GDP higher:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_by_per_capita_income
[Data for the 50 states and the District of Columbia is from the 2009–2013 
American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates:
Data on the District of Columbia does not seem accurate or correlated in this 
page: $45,290.]

As for the 5% or $1 raise every three months; Start with the State’s minimum wage 
if it is higher than the Federal of $7.25.



Finally, TRANSFER FREE CASH of 50% of the after tax minimum wage on a monthly 
basis. This is 25% per capita GDP; to everyone over 18 years of age.  The net of 
the free cash plus earnings, cannot be higher than the full time minimum wage. The 
amount of free cash shall be reduced until recipient's earnings and free receipts 
amount to full time minimum wage, of 50% per capita GDP after taxes.

Part time jobs are the only mal-point there, but workers don't really have control 
over hours worked, and so it's not really a point.

TRANSFER FREE CASH of 25% of the after tax minimum wage on a monthly basis.  This 
is 12.5% per capita GDP; to everyone under 18.  The net of the free cash plus 
earnings cannot be higher than the full time minimum wage.  The amount of free 
cash shall be reduced until recipient's earnings and free receipts amount to full 
time minimum wage, of 50% per capita GDP after taxes.

So far, under this plan, there is no different minimum wage for people under 18. 
If there were, that would either get them less pay, or jobs easier, or some of both.

You can get 3 months forward and 3 months back, each, maybe; 6 months upfront if 
needed.  Amount is determined by residence declared in the highest County be Per 
Capita GDP, so people have more money if they move, to a more expensive part of 
the Country.


The point is not to spend nor to save, but to spend exactly the right amount, and 
on the right things (and to save exactly the right amount). Building the bottom in 
consumer products requires spending money.  1. Consumption, 2. Personal Property, 
3. Real Property.  Otherwise we will never build the Supermarkets and Stores which 
provide these products and what people want.  It's all a question of what to 
finance.  Due to COVID more spending at Amazon.com has built Amazon.com more, and 
will allow Amazon.com to reduce prices.  Building these companies is in the 
interests of the American people, as these companies can then have economies of 
scale like Walmart.  Average costs are reduced when quantities increase, and fixed 
costs stay the same.  But the free market must determine which companies to build.

Fiscal Spending can merely increase inflation and the interest rates, and these 
will only go up if we reach maximum output.  We need to stimulate the economy to 
make up for the lost businesses to COVID.  But we can only finance so much 
ultimately, and what is it that we want to finance?  Even so, the economy hasn't 
been at maximum output since 2000*.  Also, waiters don't produce anything, and 
would be better off building and buying dinning room tables rather than working 
as, and buying, waiters.

Other things we can spend on/finance include:
Transportation
Education
Housing
Water
Power

Needs are (in no particular order):
1. Energy, 2.Communication, 3.Food, 4.Housing, 5.Transportation, 6.Medical & 
Dental, 7.Education, 8.Sanitation

1.Real Property, 2.Personal Property, 3.Consumption

Not sufficiently developed nor therefore commoditized:
1. Mattresses, 2. Shoes(athletic, boots, supportive dress), 3. Housing, 4. 
Vehicles 5. Electricity.

And of NEGLIGIBLE cost, YET MANDATORY!:
Free Abortions - in the first trimester /14 weeks; there is no ghost in the fetus, 
and with no parental consent - this is mandatory.
Free Sanitation - Dumpsters and Porta Potties for the homeless - this is mandatory.

San Diego has free trash pickup for a large percentage of its residents.  Maybe 
ALL dumpster services should be paid for by the Government.  Otherwise it's the 
difficulty of charging homeowners for dumpsters while those living in vehicles can 
still have free access to dumpsters.  Porta Potties are not an issue in this way.

"Since 1986, the city has collected trash from single-family homes but not 
apartments, condos, private streets or gated communities. Residents of 
multi-family units and their landlords have to contract with private companies to 
handle their trash."
https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/government/the-san-diego-garbage-law-thats-fueled-a-century-of-trash-talk/

One's right to park a bus in a residential neighborhood, and live in it 
nationwide; if there is no notice not to park in front of, nor directly across 
from, someone's house, as view could be blocked, nor block business signs.  A bus 
or RV is a wall of car.  A vehicle with a kitchen, bathroom, and bed, is the 
minimum acceptable housing.  But a shelter is a row of beds for no more than three 
nights, and tent is miserable, but provides more privacy than a shelter.  Some 
tent dwellers have cars a few blocks away.
Everyone produces 1/2 bag of trash per day, whether they live in a vehicle, a 
tent, or a home.
Stop cities from betraying the public trust by having preferential parking where 
it is not needed - as they may rush to use this method to ban RV's.

(*rates were up from 2005-2007 tho)
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/interest-rate
https://www.jpmorganchase.com/about/our-business/historical-prime-rate

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#3018 — Underemployment Masks True Unemployment

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
SubjectUnderemployment Masks True Unemployment
Message-ID<t34vi3$d25$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
Underemployment Masks True Unemployment

If raising the minimum wage *did* increase unemployment, it would merely be 
showing us the *true* unemployment rate.

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#3019 — DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN!

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:47 -0700
SubjectDRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN!
Message-ID<t34via$d25$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER 
AS PARTY-FUN!

Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be marketed as recreation!  Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be marketed as 
party-fun!

Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter poison, because that's what they are!

Poison!

Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter MEDICINE by permission ONLY!  Like Advil!

BUT, ALL DRUGS OUGHT TO BE FOR SALE ON DEMAND, SOMEHOW!  THEY OUGHT TO BE, AND 
ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH THIS, IS WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG!

GUILTY!

YOU ARE GUILTY DEA!  YOU ARE GUILTY JUDGE!  GUILTY!  YOU ARE GUILTY POLITICIAN WHO 
DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  YOU ARE GUILTY VOTER WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  GUILTY! 
GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MURDER THE JEWS, AND GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO ENSLAVE 
THE BLACKS!  THE LAW IS REAL.  THE LAW IS SCIENCE.  THE LAW IS NOT THE 
MAKE-BELIEVE OF A DICTATOR, BE HE A VOTER OR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE!  CHOOSE 
FREEDOM OR BE GUILTY!

okay, so back to what I was saying anyway,

You can't LEGALLY sell snake oil as a cure for cancer.  You can only say "snake 
oil is a cure for cancer," if you *don't* sell it; and you can only sell snake oil 
as the useless snake oil it is!  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil

Capitalism wants to sell you NOTHING: - a Star, land on Mars, Hawaiian sea water,
and Capitalism wants to sell you something, that hurts you - Drugs!  Capitalism 
just wants to profit, hence CONSUMER PROTECTIONS, and EMPLOYEE PROTECTIONS - 
regulation of commerce - have merit!


But it's my body, my Spraypaint, and my right to huff it!  God damn it!

God damn it!

It's my glue!

MY PROPERTY!!!

You have a right to possess property.  You don't have a right to larceny - that 
is, intent to deprive another of stolen property.  Hence you do not have a right, 
to knowingly possess stolen property.  Current statutes are supposed to be based 
on such common law, legal principles.  Not on malarkey.

Prohibitions of possession, hang on the notion that there is no right to possess 
property, and this is an abject LIE.


Also, it'd be drugs which are a mental impediment, and likely to be frivolously 
used, that should be sold out of sight, out of mind.  All drugs ought to be for 
sale on demand, over the counter, somehow.  AS POISON!

Who passed these drug laws, and infringed upon OUR RIGHT TO SELF-PRESCRIPTION?! 
Both infringements are ABJECT, HORRIBLE, HORRIFYING; CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.  Our 
right to self-prescribe is legal and just.  Our right to own drugs, and use them, 
is a fact.  It's my body, and my spray paint, and my right to huff it; though I don't.

Those who passed these drug laws, are mad scientists, crazies and criminals, 
perhaps the self-condemning.  We should not be bound by the idiots of yesterday.
"The world belongs usufruct to the living." - Thomas Jefferson, 1789


Drugs with habit potential ought to be distributed in a separate part of the 
store, BEHIND A CURTAIN, or through a SEPARATE NUMBER-ONLY, MARKED ENTRANCE.
DISTRIBUTING HABITUAL USE DRUGS - OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND, will help reduce 
recidivist use among those willing to stop.

No one believes that drugs are wrong; because DRUGS ARE NOT WRONG!  DRUGS ARE BAD!

Drugs with potential for recreational use, ought to carry instructions, saying: 
"this is a poisonous drug, not intended for recreational use.  However if you use 
recreationally, it is superior to use in this manner:"

For every day you use a drug, don't use it for three.  If you've been using daily, 
quit for two months, and go back to this max use.  This is use, rather than abuse. 
  Twice per month is better, and is the way most sane people party.  If you drink 
liquor merely three nights per week, you will seriously become an alcoholic.  25 
million people are alcoholics in America and drink 10 or more drinks per day. This 
is 1/2 a fifth.  140 million more merely use.  More serious alcoholics drink 1 to 
two fifths per day, that's 25-50 drinks!  A few, a handle, that's 60!

Drugs are actually A SOCIAL IMPEDIMENT, and A MENTAL IMPEDIMENT.  There's a 
marginal benefit, such as there is to riding roller coasters.  But who rides 
roller coasters more than four times per year?  And who thought roller coasters, 
or a movie, were very social?!

Additionally, drugs use up all your good feelings at once, or numb your bad feelings!

Classes of drugs in my mind:

1.Alcohol - Beer, Wine, Liquor.
2.Marijuana - like Beer.
3.Cocaine - like Liquor; Liquor is a dangerous drug.

For spirituality or meditation, non-addictive:
4.Psychedelics - Mushrooms, Ayuhauasca, DMT, Salvia, Acid.

On the line or over:
5.Ecstasy - Molly.
6.Amphetamines - Speed, Crystal Meth.

Batshit crazy:
7.PCP - Angel Dust.
8.Opiates - Codeine, Morphine, Oxycontin, Heroin, Fentanyl.
9.Benzodiazapines/Barbituates - Valium - not a party drug.
10.Huffing - 20 paints and solvents.

You don't want to inhale nor inject potent drugs.  Hence Crack is way worse than 
Cocaine, and belongs in the batshit crazy category.

Crack, Crystal Meth, Fentanyl, Heroin, are products of the Drug War.  Prohibition 
moves potency.  Alcohol prohibition moved liqour, not beer and wine.  These drugs 
wouldn't be for sale as more than insane novelties, like Everclear, if Cocaine, 
and Speed, and Morphine were available.  No one drinks Everclear, nor 151 Rum.

People know nothing about drugs.  About weapons.  About sex.  About living in a 
vehicle or tent.  AND JUDGE.  AND HIRE MURDERERS, TO MURDER ALL FOUR!

THEY ARE WRONG.
THEY ARE ILLEGAL.
FUCK THAT.
FUCK THEM.

BRING THE USA TO JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#3046 — Re: DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN!

Fromvjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
Date2022-04-16 16:06 +0000
SubjectRe: DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSION; AND NEVER AS PARTY-FUN!
Message-ID<t3epht$i2e$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#3019
When a dear friend was killed by a driver on angel dust the DA prosecuted for
murder, not least because the deceased was also a friend of his biggest
electoral competitor.

I believe drugs should be legal but they should not be allowed to be used as
mitigating excuses. In other words when you take drugs you know you can kill
someone, so it behooves you to get treatment or hang for murder. The way they
increase charges for guns or "dangerous instrument", they should increase
charges for drugs. If you can lock yourself up so you don't hurt anyone while
on drugs, fine.

-- 
	 Vasos Panagiotopoulos  panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully disclaimed.}---

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#3021 — California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In

FromIntelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Date2022-04-12 15:49 -0700
SubjectCalifornia Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In
Message-ID<t34vlm$d25$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2945
California Needs The Klamath And the Eel Reservoirs Put In

Raising the Dam at Lake Shasta 200 feet instead of the previously proposed 20 
feet, will add 10 million acre feet of Water (raising total capacity to 14 million 
acre feet).
Cite New York Times: 
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/01/18/archives/us-may-add-200-feet-to-a-coast-dam-cheaper-alternative.html 
:
"Many possibilities for tapping more water from the rushing northern rivers are 
under consideration. An increasingly plausible one, engineers say, would be to add 
about 200 feet to the height of Shasta Dam.  That would triple its storage 
capacity to 14 million acre‐feet, more than one‐third of the state's annual 
consumption, and would increase the reservoir's annual yield of four million 
acre‐feet some 25 percent." in January 18, 1979

The Klamath Reservoir will add 15 million acre feet of water.

The Eel "Dos Rios" Reservoir will add 7.5 million acre feet of water.

That is 32.5 million acre feet of water between the three.

Lake Mead and Lake Powell are the two largest reservoirs in the United States. 
They each hold up to 25 million acre feet of water, but they are presently at 34% 
and 27% capacity, each with only 8.9 and 6.5 million acre feet of water, only 15.4 
million acre feet of water total between the two. 
https://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/weekly.pdf

There is a drought every decade or so in California.  Entire farms could die out.

The Federal Government needs to put in reservoirs, like the Hoover Dam. Farms are 
industry.  Industry needs 100% facilitation to work.  Farmers should not have to 
worry about water, farmers should be able to water all day in 101 degree weather. 
Water should be like sunlight.  That's the way production gets done.  It takes 
money to make money.  The Federal government water project is for farmers. The 
State water project is for drinking water.

The above capacity numbers are capacity only.  Someone should research how fast 
these reservoirs would fill up relative to each other, that is, *yield*, and see 
if the water *capacity* numbers are really the most pertinent or not.


Here is pertinent intelligence accumulated so far, on, ca.water:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ca.water/y5tkrEW4Gkk



The California Central Valley produces one-third of all produce grown in the 
United States.

Possible solutions that apparently aren't:
1. Oregon - the Columbia River makes the border of the two States of Washington 
and Oregon, and starts in British Columbia, and empties tons of fresh water into 
the Ocean.  All the rivers in Oregon flow South to North.  So unless you were 
going to float the water down the coast in big tubes, that's not liable to matter.
2. The Peripheral Canal, was rejected by the voters.  I think they thought it was 
going to cause pollution.
3. Turning Salt Water into Fresh Water.  Some governments such as the San Diego 
County Water Authority, in Carlsbad, are resorting to this: 
https://www.sdcwa.org/seawater-desalination , as is Australia.  Is this really a 
cost effective solution?  Cost effectiveness may be all it comes to.

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