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Re: Rolling stop for bikes advances without key support

Newsgroups alt.politics.media.latimes.bias, alt.politics.socialism.libertarian, talk.politics.guns, mn.politics, ca.general
Date 2023-01-20 19:24 +0100
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From "About Fucking Time Too" <white-water@fuck.bikes>
Subject Re: Rolling stop for bikes advances without key support

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In article <ssskcp$mtes$56@news.freedyn.de>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
>
> All you biking assholes who put cars on road diets thought you'd get away with it.
> Fuck you.  Laws apply to everyone including you bastards.
>

Supervisor Malia Cohen voted Monday against legislation that 
would allow bicycles to roll through stop signs in The City, 
likely dooming the proposal.

Supervisor John Avalos, who proposed the law, had suggested 
Cohen was an instrumental vote to ensure Mayor Ed Lee could not 
succeed in vetoing the bill. The mayor has already said he 
would, and it takes eight of the Board’s 11 votes to override a 
veto.

Supervisor Scott Wiener and Avalos voted to support the 
legislation at Monday’s meeting of the Board of Supervisors Land 
Use and Economic Development Committee, which is chaired by 
Cohen. The full board is scheduled to vote on the item Dec. 15.

“I have real concerns about this ordinance,” Cohen said before 
taking her vote. “I am concerned that will it confuse the issue 
and create even greater misunderstanding between cyclists, 
drivers and pedestrians.”

She added that the law would “come at a high cost to 
pedestrians, disabled and seniors, so I will not be supporting 
this ordinance today.”

Avalos’ proposal is a nod to a similar law in the state of 
Idaho, which allows bicyclists to treat a stop sign as a yield 
sign, if there are no cars or bikes in the vicinity.

Cohen’s criticism of the proposal echoed the position recently 
taken by the Mayor’s Disability Council.

Supporters of the legislation say police should focus resources 
on more dangerous behavior than bicyclists who roll through 
stops signs. Rolling through stop signs would also improve 
traffic flow and encourage more bicycling, supporters say.

Under the proposal, bicyclists would have to slow to a safe 
speed of under six miles per hour and yield the right-­of­-way 
to any other vehicle or pedestrian in the intersection.

The San Francisco Bicycle Coalition strongly supports the 
measure, while Police Chief Greg Suhr opposes it.

Board President London Breed is one of the six supervisors who 
supports the proposal. “I think he’s wrong,” Breed said in 
reference to the mayor’s plan to veto the bill. “This is 
something that we need to do.”

The proposal was introduced when bicyclists were targeted over 
the summer by Park Station Capt. John Sanford, who increased 
ticketing cyclists rolling through stop signs along the 
Panhandle.

Cohen said she “would be interested” in a pilot program “in one 
of the most highly trafficked bike corridors.”

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/rolling-stop-for-bikes-advances-
without-key-support/article_78208d11-16da-5ae4-8a26-
b3788ce8c0da.html#tncms-source=block-contextual-fallback

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