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  What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-15 03:55 +0200
    Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-15 20:22 +1000
      Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-16 01:03 +0200
        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-16 21:30 +1000
        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2026-06-16 19:04 -0700
          Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 12:44 +1000
            Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-17 05:27 +0200
              Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-17 21:21 +1000
                Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 21:35 +1000
                  Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-18 00:46 +0200
                Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-18 00:32 +0200
                  Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 09:18 +1000
                    Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-18 01:36 +0200
                    Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:22 +1000
                      Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 13:45 +1000
                        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 16:08 +1000
                        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-19 00:40 +0200
                    Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-18 23:03 +1000
                      Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 08:36 +1000
                        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-19 00:59 +0200
                        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 10:15 +1000
                        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:03 +1000
                          Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:31 +1000
                            Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:54 +1000
                              Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 20:50 +1000
                                Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 01:57 +1000
                                Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-20 01:00 +0200
                            Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 01:52 +1000
                              Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 08:32 +1000
                                Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-20 01:12 +0200
                                Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:40 +1000
                                  Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-20 21:20 +1000
                                    Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 03:03 +1000
                                    Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-21 01:19 +0200
                            Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-20 00:38 +0200
                      Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 12:38 +1000
                        Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 14:01 +1000
                          Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 20:32 +1000
                            Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 03:31 +1000
                            Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-23 01:21 +0200
              Re: What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!* "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2026-06-17 20:57 -0700

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#19053 — What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!*

*SpaceX is already crashing.....*

/Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>

Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull waiting!

-- 
Ördög
Your diligent newsgroup devil at your service

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#19058

On 15/06/2026 11:55 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
> *SpaceX is already crashing.....*
> 
> /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>
> 
> Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull waiting!
> 
*SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual 
company??
-- 
Daniel70

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#19060

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Daniel70
> Ördög
>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....*
>>
>> /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>
>>
>> Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull waiting!
>>
> *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual 
> company??

Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had 
marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge 
conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption) 
and investors.

Now that it is listed on the NASDAQ forcing even pension funds to invest 
in it hopefully it will be much harder to hide the billions of losses it 
is generating by its ridiculous venture into the AI nonsense, not to 
mention its serial disastrous space ship failures.
Luckily, it is now under more scrutiny than it was before and after the 
initial speculative boost it got on the share-market some investors are 
already looking for the exit.
It is only a matter of time before this massive castle built out of 
cards on lots of hot air foundation hype generated by the Elon-fan club 
collapses ... but hey, in the mean while it made Elon the first 
trillionaire on the planet. I wonder how long his joyride is going to last.

-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19067

On 16/06/2026 9:03 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

<Snip>

> Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had 
> marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge 
> conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption) 
> and investors.
> 
> Now that it is listed on the NASDAQ forcing even pension funds to invest 
> in it hopefully it will be much harder to hide the billions of losses it 
> is generating by its ridiculous venture into the AI nonsense, not to 
> mention its serial disastrous space ship failures.
> Luckily, it is now under more scrutiny than it was before and after the 
> initial speculative boost it got on the share-market some investors are 
> already looking for the exit.
> It is only a matter of time before this massive castle built out of 
> cards on lots of hot air foundation hype generated by the Elon-fan club 
> collapses ... but hey, in the mean while it made Elon the first 
> trillionaire on the planet. I wonder how long his joyride is going to last.
> 
That's the thing that gets me .... The whole house of cards might well 
collapse but Elon will still have his Trillion Dollars!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#19074

In news:_w%XR.42914$eDa2.9668@fx06.ams4, The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz>
typed:

># /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

> Daniel70
>> Ördög

>>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....*

>>> /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs

>>> Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic] waiting!

>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual
>> company??

> Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had
> marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
> conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
> and investors....


From
https://townhall.com/columnists/alanjosephbauer/2026/06/08/boeing-vs-spacex-n2677377

... Let's take a look at some of SpaceX's accomplishments:

  a.. Year of Incorporation: 2002
  b.. Number of Employees: ~22,000
  c.. Number of Vehicle Types: 3 (Falcon, Falcon Heavy, and Starship in
development)
  d.. Number of Launches: Over 650 as of the end of 2025, with 165 in 2025
alone.
  e.. Number of Upright Landings: Over 600 for Falcon and Falcon Heavy
  f.. Number of Caught Rockets: 4 rockets with Mechazilla
  g.. Number of Satellites Delivered: Over 12,000, with 10,500 active in
Starlink
  h.. Number of Crewed Flights: 18 (11 for NASA and 7 private)

SpaceX has put up more satellites than all other players combined. It has made
rocket launches routine, something that NASA promised with the Space Shuttle but
never delivered. The upright and caught landings are revolutionary. I remember
the character of Calculus in Herge's Tintin landing his rocket on the Moon
upright and thinking that it was so silly: The big boosters are jettisoned into
the ocean, and nobody lands like he took off. But Elon Musk, and later Jeff
Bezos' Blue Origin, do just that. It saves tens of millions of dollars by
requiring the refurbishment of an existing rocket rather than a whole new rocket
to begin with. NASA always lost its boosters, but Musk has made them reusable.
SpaceX makes its patents available to other firms, and the recent explosion of a
Blue Origin rocket on a NASA launch pad led Musk to send his regrets and wish
his competitor success in the future....


Of course, all this pales in comparison with Oz's space program. 

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#19076

On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:04:59 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

>In news:_w%XR.42914$eDa2.9668@fx06.ams4, The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz>
>typed:
>
>># /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
>> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
>
>> Daniel70
>>> Ördög
>
>>>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....*
>
>>>> /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs
>
>>>> Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic] waiting!
>
>>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual
>>> company??
>
>> Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had
>> marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
>> conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
>> and investors....
>
>
>From
>https://townhall.com/columnists/alanjosephbauer/2026/06/08/boeing-vs-spacex-n2677377
>
>... Let's take a look at some of SpaceX's accomplishments:
>
>  a.. Year of Incorporation: 2002
>  b.. Number of Employees: ~22,000
>  c.. Number of Vehicle Types: 3 (Falcon, Falcon Heavy, and Starship in
>development)
>  d.. Number of Launches: Over 650 as of the end of 2025, with 165 in 2025
>alone.
>  e.. Number of Upright Landings: Over 600 for Falcon and Falcon Heavy
>  f.. Number of Caught Rockets: 4 rockets with Mechazilla
>  g.. Number of Satellites Delivered: Over 12,000, with 10,500 active in
>Starlink
>  h.. Number of Crewed Flights: 18 (11 for NASA and 7 private)
>
>SpaceX has put up more satellites than all other players combined. It has made
>rocket launches routine, something that NASA promised with the Space Shuttle but
>never delivered. The upright and caught landings are revolutionary. I remember
>the character of Calculus in Herge's Tintin landing his rocket on the Moon
>upright and thinking that it was so silly: The big boosters are jettisoned into
>the ocean, and nobody lands like he took off. But Elon Musk, and later Jeff
>Bezos' Blue Origin, do just that. It saves tens of millions of dollars by
>requiring the refurbishment of an existing rocket rather than a whole new rocket
>to begin with. NASA always lost its boosters, but Musk has made them reusable.
>SpaceX makes its patents available to other firms, and the recent explosion of a
>Blue Origin rocket on a NASA launch pad led Musk to send his regrets and wish
>his competitor success in the future....
>
>
>Of course, all this pales in comparison with Oz's space program. 
>
While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes

Unproductive tax payers,
NGO's, welfare, government departments
Productive taxpayers,
profit taking private enterprise
The problem with Unproductive tax payers, is that governments
eventually run out of Productive taxpayers money
And that includes Donald Trump
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#19077

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> Ördög 
>> Daniel70
>>> Ördög
>>
>>>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....*
>>>> /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>
>>
>>>> Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic] waiting!
>>>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual
>>>> company??
>>
>> Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had
>> marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
>> conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
>> and investors....

> While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes

WTF are you on about again, Petz dear?
Elon is generating (on paper) amazing amounts of hoarded wealth to the 
detriment of investors, private and public pensions funds and, of course 
gobbling up bucket loads of government subsidies while actually 
delivering nothing but unrealisable promises.

SpaceX according to its own declaration for its NASDAQ listing is now an 
AI and media transmission technology company ...that is currently losing 
billions of dollars. Long live fully corrupted scam artist robber baron 
capitalism.

> Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!

Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite 
bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this 
very newsgroup.
Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and through!


-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19078

On 17/06/2026 1:27 pm, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
> # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/ # /All quoted
> inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
> 
>> Ördög
>>> Daniel70
>>>> Ördög
>>> 
>>>>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....* /Jordan Shanks, 176k
>>>>> subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/ 
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>
>>> 
>>>>> Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic]
>>>>> waiting! *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the
>>>>> float or the actual company??
>>> 
>>> Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has
>>> only had marginal success with Star-link but anything else is
>>> basically a huge conjob extracting funds both from the government
>>> (long live corruption) and investors....
> 
>> While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes
> 
> WTF are you on about again, Petz dear? Elon is generating (on paper)
> amazing amounts of hoarded wealth to the detriment of investors,
> private and public pensions funds and, of course gobbling up bucket
> loads of government subsidies while actually delivering nothing but
> unrealisable promises.
> 
> SpaceX according to its own declaration for its NASDAQ listing is now
> an AI and media transmission technology company ...

Is THAT like a company that transmits stuff UP to the satellites IT has
put into orbit then transmitting that same stuff DOWN to Planet Earth??

> that is currently losing billions of dollars.

... that the Shareholders will now have to carry. Just as well Elon is
the major Shareholder.

> Long live fully corrupted scam artist robber baron capitalism.

Yeap ... and I think Elon is well practised.

>> Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!
> 
> Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite 
> bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
>  very newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
> through!
> 
"a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that
giving Petzl too much credit??
-- 
Daniel70

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#19079

On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 21:21:02 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>>> Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!
>> 
>> Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite 
>> bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
>>  very newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
>> through!
>> 
>"a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that
>giving Petzl too much credit??
>
Unproductive taxpayers are essential working piece of economy.
But they are only fed by productive tax payers, they must be contained
by limiting how much of them that Productive Tax payers can afford!

Elon Musk's SpaceX is totally fed by US productive tax payers!

Nonproductive tax payers,
NGO's, welfare, government departments
Productive taxpayers,
profit taking private enterprise
The problem with Unproductive tax payers, is that governments
eventually run out of Productive taxpayers money

Australia at present is spending more productive taxes than are being
earned. Hence the tax hikes and death taxes, they have run out of
other peoples money.

It is clear the Australian non-government sector of the economy, the
private sector, is in contraction and you could then argue it is in
recession! 

There is a big transfer between the private sector and the public
sector at the moment. The private sector is shedding jobs to the
public sector, which is picking up jobs. 
But are they the non-productive tax funded jobs we want?

-- 
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists.
Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws, then paid
lucrative commissions for passing their laws.

That’s the modern legislative business of parliament. When we talk
about paying-off politicians in third-world countries we call it
bribery.

However, when we undertake the same process in parliament. we call it
lobbying.

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#19082

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> Daniel70
> Ördög
>>>> Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!
>>>
>>> Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite
>>> bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
>>>   very newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
>>> through!
>>>
>> "a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that
>> giving Petzl too much credit??
>>
> Unproductive taxpayers are essential working piece of economy.
> But they are only fed by productive tax payers, they must be contained
> by limiting how much of them that Productive Tax payers can afford!

BULLSHIT!

> Elon Musk's SpaceX is totally fed by US productive tax payers!

In other words you understand nothing Petz dear. Thnx for making that so 
blatantly clear!
> 
> Nonproductive tax payers,...blah...blah...blah.

Regurgitating the same propaganda verbal vomit does not improve its 
bullshit status whatsoever!
> 
> Australia at present is spending more productive taxes than are being
> earned.

BULLSHIT!

> Hence the tax hikes and death taxes,

What tax hikes??? What death taxes?

> they have run out of other peoples money.

Careful Petz! You are starting to run out of your tiny reserves 
neo-liberal propaganda talking points. Repeating like a broken record 
the same crap is becoming mightily lame nullifying your intended 
propaganda impact.

Booooooooorrrrring!
> 
> It is clear the Australian non-government sector of the economy, the
> private sector, is in contraction and you could then argue it is in
> recession!

RUBBISH!
> 
> There is a big transfer between the private sector and the public
> sector at the moment. The private sector is shedding jobs to the
> public sector, which is picking up jobs.

BULLSHIT!

> But are they the non-productive tax funded jobs we want?

BULLSHIT!

Suckle on another GoonBag instead, Petz dear!  :-P

-- 
Ördög
Your increasingly bored to death newsgroup devil at your service

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#19081

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Daniel70
> Ördög
>> Petz
>>> Ördög
>>>> Daniel70
>>>>> Ördög
>>>>
>>>>>> *SpaceX is already crashing.....* /Jordan Shanks, 176k
>>>>>> subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/ 
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>
>>>>
>>>>>> Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic]
>>>>>> waiting! *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the
>>>>>> float or the actual company??
>>>>
>>>> Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has
>>>> only had marginal success with Star-link but anything else is
>>>> basically a huge conjob extracting funds both from the government
>>>> (long live corruption) and investors....
>>
>>> While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes
>>
>> WTF are you on about again, Petz dear? Elon is generating (on paper)
>> amazing amounts of hoarded wealth to the detriment of investors,
>> private and public pensions funds and, of course gobbling up bucket
>> loads of government subsidies while actually delivering nothing but
>> unrealisable promises.
>>
>> SpaceX according to its own declaration for its NASDAQ listing is now
>> an AI and media transmission technology company ...
> 
> Is THAT like a company that transmits stuff UP to the satellites IT has
> put into orbit then transmitting that same stuff DOWN to Planet Earth??

Well, kind of. It also hypes a lot about put AI data banks in space 
somehow defeating the laws of physics and all currently existing 
guidelines to good engineering. More vapourware, pure and simple.

>> that is currently losing billions of dollars.
> 
> ... that the Shareholders will now have to carry. Just as well Elon is
> the major Shareholder.

I am sure Elon will remain just fine as very likely his securely stashed 
away personal wealth reserves in well selected tax havens can withstand 
the predictable collapse of his con-job fortress built out of 
grift-cards. Those who will be taken to the cleaners are stupid 
investors and investment funds as well as the public purse.
What a genius! Unless of course he can be made to answer for all of his 
corrupt and fraudulent machinations.

>> Long live fully corrupted scam artist robber baron capitalism.
> 
> Yeap ... and I think Elon is well practised.
> 
>>> Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!
>>
>> Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite 
>> bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
>>  very newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
>> through!
>>
> "a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that
> giving Petzl too much credit??

Yeah! Petz's bag of well functioning tricks must be very-very tiny!

-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19083

On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

>> Ördög
>
More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote aloe
for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
Christian Monoculture.

More news about MAGA
Trump KNOWS what he is doing it's called MAGA.

Trump's U.S is finding so called Allies all led by fools, Starmer,
Macron, the worst is Netanyahu who did his best to disrupt/sabotage
any US peace deal.
This "MoU" looks to me like Trump is setting these poisonous Allies up
and will be dumping the Iran headache along with $$cost$$ now back on
them with absolutely no US intervention.
Breaking off these so-called alliances as poisonous, would save the US
billions at their expense.
What these Allies don't realize is the U.S does not need middle east
Oil, the US has plenty of oil available to them.
Will only affect these treasonous Allies and only they will have
problems with oil supplies.
In future these "Allies" will have to fend for themselves!
-- 
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"The Newsgroup Devil"
Ördög the Armchair communist
https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians 
and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical

Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall 
Against What They Want to Do

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#19085

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> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote aloe
> for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
> Christian Monoculture.

BS

> More BS about MAGA
> Trump doesn't know KNOWS what he is doing it's called MAGA.

Your typos above have been corrected, free of charge as a generous 
service for maintaining newsgroup sanity, Petz dear!

/remainder of your stinky crap was removed and the freed cyberspace  was 
immediately sanitised, also part of the free service this diligent 
newsgroup devil provided for the newsgroup!/

:-P    :-P    :-P


-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19087

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

Bullshit she is

> aloe   for One Nation boosted ahead by resumingAustralia's  
> constitutional   Christian Monoculture.

No such animal as any constitutional Christian Monoculture
and there never was, most obviously with the jews

> More news about MAGA
> Trump KNOWS what he is doing it's called MAGA.

Its actually called fucking up completely, most obviously with Iran

> Trump's U.S is finding so called Allies all led by fools, Starmer,
> Macron, the worst is Netanyahu who did his best to disrupt/sabotage
> any US peace deal.

Because nothing has been done about Hezbulla except by him

> This "MoU" looks to me like Trump is setting these poisonous Allies up
> and will be dumping the Iran headache along with $$cost$$ now back on
> them with absolutely no US intervention.

Then you need to get new glasses and eye transplants

> Breaking off these so-called alliances as poisonous, would save the US
> billions at their expense.

More of your mindless bullshit given what he has pissed
against the wall attempting regime change in Iran and
only managing to stop the flow of oil thru Hurmuz

> What these Allies don't realize is the U.S does not need middle east
> Oil, the US has plenty of oil available to them.

Of course they realise that, fuckwit

> Will only affect these treasonous Allies and only they will have
> problems with oil supplies.

> In future these "Allies" will have to fend for themselves!

They aren't stupid enough to try and fuck over Iran and get
the flow of oil thru Hurmuz stopped and fuck all of their oil
comes thru there

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#19090

On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:22:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote
>
>Bullshit she is
>

<https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10246-federal-voting-intention-june-9-2026>
  One Nation surges into first place for primary support
-- 
Petzl
What happens when the insane are "voted" (preferences) to lead our
Christian Commonwealth!

"The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again
and expecting a different result"
Then stop voting Labor/"Greens"!

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#19093

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

>> Bullshit she is

> <https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10246-federal-voting-intention-june-9-2026>
>   One Nation surges into first place for primary support

That's a POLL not a VOTE

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> Rod Speed
>> Petz
>>
>>> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote
>>
>> Bullshit she is
>>
> 
> <https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10246-federal-voting-intention-june-9-2026>
>    One Nation surges into first place for primary support

YAWN! In OZ governments are regularly determined by preference flows.
All these recent "outrage" polls say nothing about that, quite 
intentionally so!

Thus, so far all these prove nothing more than the alt-right pie in the sky!

I (don't) hate to to sink your wet-dream float, Petz dear, but by the 
time election day comes the majority of voters may still prefer 
maintaining some sort of status quo to the MAGAt style chaos and full 
scale economic and social upheaval Pauline and Gina are determined to 
create in order to make the super rich richer and every one else fucked 
over multiple times.

Sorry Petz dear, but that $2/day/wage-slave fully fascist bonanza for 
plutocrats ain't likely to come here any time soon. Nor will that brutal 
white supremacist Xtian fundy theocracy you advocate for be happening. 
Back with you to your GoonBags!

:-P    :-P    :-P

-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19094

On 18/06/2026 9:18 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil 
> <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:
> 
>>> Ördög
>> 
> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
Popularity Pole!!

> aloe

WHAT??

> for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional 
> Christian Monoculture.

WHAT??
-- 
Daniel70

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#19098

On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:03:27 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>On 18/06/2026 9:18 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil 
>> <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Ördög
>>> 
>> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote
>
>No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
>very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
>Popularity Pole!!
>
The Anal nit picker back
Was a poll from experts many years being paid for them

"Roy Morgan is Australia’s best known and longest established market
research company, with an unparalleled reputation for reliable,
accurate, meaningful, revealing market research."

>> aloe
>
>WHAT??
>
That >> means it's Ordog quotation

>> for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional 
>> Christian Monoculture.
>
>WHAT??
>
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
Commonwealth’.
That originalist 1899 version 

Textualist meaning is  called
Australia's constitutional Christian Monoculture.

Being based on
History Heavy focus on the British Empire
• The primacy of Western (Greek, Roman) and Judeo-Christian tradition
Protestant Work Ethic
• Christianity is the norm
Hard work is the key to success
• Work before play
"If you didn't meet your goals, you didn't work hard enough"
Religion Anything other than Judeo-Christian tradition is foreign No
tolerance for deviation from single god concept
Status, Power
& Authority
? Plan for future
Future Orientation
Delayed gratification
Progress is always best
• "Tomorrow will be better"
Wealth worth
Your job is who you are Respect authority
• Heavy value on ownership of goods, space, property
Time
Follow rigid time schedules Time viewed as a commodity
Based on European culture Steak and potatoes; "bland is best"
Aesthetics? Woman's beauty based on blonde, thin - "Barbie"
? Man's attractiveness based on economic status, power, intellect
Holidays
Based on Christian religions
? Based on white history & male leaders
Justice
Based on English common law • Protect property & entitlements
• Intent counts
Competition
• Be #1
• Win at all costs
• Winner/loser dichotomy.
• Action Orientation
• Master and control nature
• Must always "do something" about a situation Aggressiveness and
Extroversion
• Decision-Making
• Majority rules (when Whites have power)
• "The King's English" rules
• Written tradition
Avoid conflict, intimacy
• Don't show emotion
• Don't discuss personal life
• Be polite
--
Petzl
Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian
Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes
to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

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> Daniel70
>> Petz
>>> More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote
>>
>> No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
>> very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
>> Popularity Pole!!
>>
> The Anal nit picker back

Just admit it, Petz dear! You hate to see your alt-right brain-farts 
filled hot air balloons instantly deflated!

> Was a poll from experts many years being paid for them

So what! It still ignored expected preference flows, which actually 
determine who gets to govern this country. That is also not surprising 
at all given how far we are still out from actual election day.
All these polls are about headlines grabbing outrage and hardly anything 
more.

> "Roy Morgan is Australia’s best known and longest established market
> research company, with an unparalleled reputation for reliable,
> accurate, meaningful, revealing market research."

And has been badly wrong quite a few times in the past. In end effect, 
more often than not, polls end up to be no more reliable than astrology 
is for precisely predicting the future. But hey, corporate media is 
mightily thankful for their existence, for very obvious reasons.
> 
>>> aloe
>>
>> WHAT??
>>
> That >> means it's Ordog quotation

GoonCon 4 or over, Petz dear???
> 
>>> for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
>>> Christian Monoculture.
>>
>> WHAT??
>>
> Sir John Downer Kings Council,...bullshit

On NO! Not that umpteenth time debunked/rejected nonsense again.

/all delusional crap was removed, yet again/

Give it up, Petz dear.There ain't any takers here for that mind numbing 
nonsense!

:-P    :-P    :-P

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