Re: Jaycar.

From	Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>
Newsgroups	aus.electronics
Subject	Re: Jaycar.
Date	2022-05-29 06:52 +1000
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On 29/05/2022 4:54 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:05:55 +1000, Trevor Wilson 
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> On 27/05/2022 9:19 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 16:30:48 +1000, Trevor Wilson 
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/05/2022 3:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 27/05/2022 3:01 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/05/2022 6:51 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26-May-22 5:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> It has been reported that JB Hi, Super Retail Group, and 
>>>>>>>> Wesfarmers are looking to buy Jaycar valued at ~$500M.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then they'll convert it into a standard consumer electronics 
>>>>>>> store, the way they did with Dick Smith, and destroy its market 
>>>>>>> in the process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **You mean the market for over-priced junk and counterfeit 
>>>>>> electronic components?
>>>>>>
>>>>>  Counterfeit? Well apart from that dude that did the Arduino (IIRC) 
>>>>> starter kit which they blatantly copied, what other examples are 
>>>>> there?
>>>>
>>>> Jaycar are notorious for selling dodgy, Chinese, re-branded 
>>>> components that do not meet their published specs.
> 
>>>  So don't buy those components from them. stupid.
> 
>> I no longer do. Nuts, bolts, screws, junky toys, etc is all Jaycar is 
>> useful for.
> 
> More of your utterly mindless bullshit.
> 
> I had an urgent need for a plugpack when lightning took out
> the one that powered the security system at the local Salvos.
> I replaced it with one from the local Jaycar because the local
> Salvos use theirs to catch shop thieves and it is still working fine.

**My experience with Jaycar plugpacks is not as stellar. I worked on a 
project for a client a few years back and I purchased 600 X 15VAC, 300ma 
plug packs from Jaycar. After a few months in the field they began 
failing (the absolute maximum current drawn was 100ma). When 10% if the 
plugpacks had failed, I sourced new plugpacks from an Australian 
manufacturer. These were rated at 16VAC, 100ma. To date (and it has been 
25 years) I've had to supply 3 replacements.

A 10% failure rate is appallingly bad. A 10% failure rate in a period of 
a few months is simply unforgivable.

> 
> When my FTTN system went out for a day or two without notice
> I couldn't put my hand on my wifi dongle so I got another from
> the local Jaycar. Price was quite a it higher than from anyone
> else but cheaper than from Hardly Normal, the only other source
> in my country town. Worked fine and still does and much more
> convenient than no internet for a couple of days.
> 
>>>> Notably, they were caught selling MJ15003/MJ15004 transistors that 
>>>> didn't come close to the manufacturer's specs. Quite a few techs 
>>>> were caught out. Jaycar were kind enough to refund their purchase 
>>>> price, but not the time spent fixing the same fault several times. 
>>>> One of my mates got caught out, when he was repairing a TV set with 
>>>> dodgy Jaycar parts. He lost 4 hours chasing his tail.
> 
>>>  So don't buy those components from them. stupid.
> 
>> Here's the thing: Those of us who have purchased such components have 
>> been burned.
> 
> So don't buy those components from them. stupid.

**And, once more: How do people know what not to buy, unless they have 
already purchased rubbish?

> 
>>>>>> Good riddance. Jaycar has been a blight on the industry for decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  Rubbish.
>>>>>  Sure, they sell junk but they're also handy if you need something 
>>>>> and it doesn't need to be top shelf. Very convenient for hobbyists.
>>>
>>>> Sure. Hobbyists don't care if something they've repaired blows up 
>>>> again. Don't get me wrong: I have a Jaycar 15 minutes from my home 
>>>> and if I need something desperately and/or not critical, I'll buy 
>>>> from them.
> 
>>>  So your original is just more of your mindless bullshit.
> 
>> My original what?
> 
> Claim/post etc.

**My original claim is spot-on. Jaycar sell over-priced rubbish. Their 
products are unreliable and many of their components are below spec 
and/or counterfeit.

> 
>>>> However, all my US/Euro semiconductors and electrolytic caps come 
>>>> from an ISO9001 supplier, like Element14, RS or X-On. Japanese semis 
>>>> are from WES, which are not immune from selling counterfeit semis 
>>>> either. I was caught a couple of time. And their electros are rubbish.
>>>  So only buy the other stuff from Jaycar, stupid.
>>
>> **Duh.
>>
>>>
>>>>>  We don't have a Jaycar, only an agent but they are very helpful 
>>>>> and are happy to get things in from other suppliers on their stock 
>>>>> orders and not charge additional freight.
>>>
>>>> Like I said: Hobbyists don't care if something blows up.
>>>  Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...
>>
>> Of course hobbyists care. They just don't understand why their project 
>> has blown up. They just assume that they've done something stupid, 
>> when, in reality, the only stupid thing they did was to buy shitty 
>> components from Jaycar.
> 
> None of my purchases from Jaycar have blown up.

**Uh-huh.

Thread

Jaycar. keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2022-05-26 17:03 +1000
  Re: Jaycar. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-05-26 18:51 +1000
    Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-27 05:01 +1000
      Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 08:27 +1000
      Re: Jaycar. keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2022-05-27 11:49 +1000
      Re: Jaycar. Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2022-05-27 13:23 +0800
        Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-27 16:30 +1000
          Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 21:19 +1000
            Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-28 16:05 +1000
              Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 04:54 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-29 06:52 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 07:31 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-29 07:56 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 15:28 -0700
                Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 08:28 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2022-05-29 15:30 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2022-05-29 11:29 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 18:33 -0700
                Re: Jaycar. keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2022-05-29 15:48 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 00:12 -0700
                Re: Jaycar. Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2022-05-29 17:26 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-29 02:07 -0700
                Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-29 16:10 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2022-05-29 19:28 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-30 07:05 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2022-05-29 21:12 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2022-05-30 19:33 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 19:49 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 19:44 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2022-05-31 19:15 +1000
          Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 16:15 -0700
          Re: Jaycar. Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2022-05-28 09:01 +0800
            Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 18:51 -0700
              Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-28 00:30 -0700
                Re: Jaycar. Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-28 18:11 +1000
                Re: Jaycar. Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2022-06-24 09:40 +0800
                Re: Jaycar. Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-06-23 20:03 -0700
    Re: Jaycar. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-05-27 08:25 +1000

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