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The real cost of net zero

Started byMighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com>
First post2024-12-21 11:50 +1100
Last post2024-12-24 20:17 +1100
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  The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100
    Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 14:15 +1100
      Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 17:43 +1100
      Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 17:59 +1100
        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 18:48 +1100
        Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 19:33 +1100
          Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 20:46 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 08:09 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 09:41 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 00:08 +0000
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 11:39 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 12:09 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:45 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:51 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 16:13 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:22 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 17:15 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:42 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:34 +1000
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:02 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:35 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:29 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:41 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 15:27 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:31 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:33 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:43 +1100
          Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:38 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:13 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:40 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:25 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:40 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:30 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:14 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 19:24 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 20:25 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:00 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 05:35 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 22:58 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:13 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:31 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:28 +1100
        Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:23 +1000
          Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:22 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:21 +1000
              Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:57 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:16 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:07 +1000
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:53 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:41 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:48 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:07 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:00 +1000
                            Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:38 +1100
                              Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 21:52 +1100
                                Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:51 +1100
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:40 +1100
                                    Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:17 +1100
                              Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:47 +1000
                                Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:18 +1100
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:35 +1000
                                    Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 16:06 +1100
                                      Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:14 +1000
                                        Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:48 +1100
                                          Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:07 +1000
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:51 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:40 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:52 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 19:42 +1000
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:29 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 20:57 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:38 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-25 08:08 +1000
                        Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:37 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:41 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:34 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:27 +1100
    Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:16 +1000
      Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:17 +1100
        Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:32 +1000
          Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:59 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:17 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:46 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:29 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:23 +1000
              Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:48 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:40 +1000
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:00 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 19:11 +1000
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:16 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:07 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:40 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:16 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:02 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:52 +1100
                              Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:55 +1100
                                Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:19 +1100
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:11 +1100
                                    Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:39 +1100
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-27 19:36 +1100
                                    Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 20:07 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:51 +1000
                              Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 11:42 +1100
                                Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:22 +1100
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:39 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:34 +1000
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:46 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-24 21:55 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:09 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-12-24 23:51 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:20 +1000
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:51 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 18:50 +1000
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:29 +1000
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:25 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 18:00 +1000
                              Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 19:08 +1100
                                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:05 +1100
                                Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:26 +1000
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:24 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-26 19:44 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:08 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:40 +1000
                              Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 22:08 +1100
                                Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:26 +1100
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 23:46 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-27 19:53 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:33 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:24 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:20 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:43 +1100
        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:03 +1100
          Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 14:00 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 14:58 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:44 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:32 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:19 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-24 12:29 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 13:10 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:32 +1000
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:42 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:37 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:24 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:34 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:21 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:43 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 00:09 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:27 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:24 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:15 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:53 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:18 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:25 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:53 +1100
                            Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 20:52 +1100
                              Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:44 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:35 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:05 +1100
                    Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 18:37 +1000
                      Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:06 +1100
                        Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:41 +1000
                          Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:27 +1100
                          Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 06:03 +1000
                            Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:25 +1100
                              Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:16 +1000
                                Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:18 +1000
                                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:31 +1100
                                  Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 17:40 +1000
                                    Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 18:58 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:32 +1000
                Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:34 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:34 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:20 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:35 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:41 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:28 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:02 +1100
                  Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100

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#71570

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-23 17:19 +1100
Message-ID<op.2y7yjhq7byq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71568
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,  
>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by  
>>>>>>> a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding  
>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>
>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by building  
>>>> nuclear power plants
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY crunch  
>>> the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.

>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> Nope. Fact.

Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch

> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce  
> that he will not build them.

Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they  
> are way cheaper,

And aren't viable for anything like as long.

> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.

Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
does and will continue to do forever.

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#71582

FromDaryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
Date2024-12-24 12:29 +1100
Message-ID<lsuh42ForlcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71570
On 23/12/2024 5:19 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece 
>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding 
>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
> 
>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> 
>> Nope. Fact.
> 
> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
> 
>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>> that he will not build them.
> 
> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> 
>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they 
>> are way cheaper,
> 
> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
> 
>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
> 
> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
> does and will continue to do forever.

Got it in one but don't tell Trev:-)

-- 
Daryl

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#71583

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-24 13:10 +1100
Message-ID<op.2y9hn0ozbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71582
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 12:29:38 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:

> On 23/12/2024 5:19 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,  
>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece  
>>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding  
>>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by  
>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY  
>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>
>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> Nope. Fact.
>>  Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>
>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce  
>>> that he will not build them.
>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they  
>>> are way cheaper,
>>  And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>
>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>  Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>> does and will continue to do forever.
>
> Got it in one but don't tell Trev:-)

Yeah, he is clearly slashing his wrists, and just before xmas too

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#71592

Fromalvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-24 15:32 +1000
Message-ID<vkdh2a$1mdv6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71582
Daryl wrote:
> On 23/12/2024 5:19 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece 
>>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding 
>>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>
>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> Nope. Fact.
>>
>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>
>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>>> that he will not build them.
>>
>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they 
>>> are way cheaper,
>>
>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>
>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>
>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>> does and will continue to do forever.
> 
> Got it in one but don't tell Trev:-)

If he doesn't know by now that you are a selfish amoral arsehole then he 
needs a brain transplant.

As you have no qualms in cosying up with a proven liar, hypocrite and 
abusive coward then it's entirely consistent for you to not give a shit 
that you're pumping out environment destroying poison.


alvey

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#71600

FromXeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Date2024-12-24 18:42 +1100
Message-ID<lsv6vhFrrvnU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71592
On 24/12/2024 4:32 pm, alvey wrote:
> Daryl wrote:
>> On 23/12/2024 5:19 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a 
>>>>>>>>>> piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try 
>>>>>>>>>> finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>
>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>
>>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>
>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>>>> that he will not build them.
>>>
>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because 
>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>
>>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>
>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>
>>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>
>> Got it in one but don't tell Trev:-)
> 
> If he doesn't know by now that you are a selfish amoral arsehole then he 
> needs a brain transplant.
> 
> As you have no qualms in cosying up with a proven liar, hypocrite and 
> abusive coward then it's entirely consistent for you to not give a shit 
> that you're pumping out environment destroying poison.
> 
> 
> alvey

+1

-- 
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
       (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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#71586

FromMighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com>
Date2024-12-24 15:37 +1100
Message-ID<lsus58FqegkU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71570
Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece 
>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding 
>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>
>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
>> Nope. Fact.
>
> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>
>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>> that he will not build them.
>
> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>
>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they 
>> are way cheaper,
>
> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>
>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>
> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
> does and will continue to do forever.

yep!

-- 
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.

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#71615

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-12-24 21:24 +1100
Message-ID<vke24e$1q1rt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71570
Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece 
>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding 
>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
> 
>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> 
>> Nope. Fact.
> 
> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
> 
>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>> that he will not build them.
> 
> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> 
>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they 
>> are way cheaper,
> 
> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
> 
>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
> 
> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
> does and will continue to do forever.

You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read Australia 
was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our population is 
only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that 1.25% figure 
includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we then sell to others.

In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take 
measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL 
SUFFER, TOO!!
-- 
Daniel

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#71617

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-12-24 21:34 +1100
Message-ID<vke2nv$1q642$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71615
Daniel70 wrote on 24/12/24 9:24 pm:
> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece 
>>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding 
>>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>
>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> Nope. Fact.
>>
>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>
>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>>> that he will not build them.
>>
>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they 
>>> are way cheaper,
>>
>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>
>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>
>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>> does and will continue to do forever.
> 
> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read Australia 
> was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our population is 
> only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that 1.25% figure 
> includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we then sell to others.
> 
> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take 
> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL 
> SUFFER, TOO!!

O.K., I read in a later post (by Mighty Mouse) that Australia's CO2 
emissions are only 1.02% of total production .... but still waaaayy 
above our 0.43% of world population.

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country
-- 
Daniel

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#71631

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-25 07:21 +1100
Message-ID<op.2zav58udbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71617
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:34:45 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>  
wrote:

> Daniel70 wrote on 24/12/24 9:24 pm:
>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,  
>>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece  
>>>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding  
>>>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by  
>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY  
>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>
>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>
>>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>
>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce  
>>>> that he will not build them.
>>>
>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they  
>>>> are way cheaper,
>>>
>>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>
>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>
>>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>  You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read Australia  
>> was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our population  
>> is only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that 1.25% figure  
>> includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we then sell to  
>> others.
>>  In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take  
>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL  
>> SUFFER, TOO!!
>
> O.K., I read in a later post (by Mighty Mouse) that Australia's CO2  
> emissions are only 1.02% of total production .... but still waaaayy  
> above our 0.43% of world population.

Only because we have lots of coal

> https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country

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#71621

FromXeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Date2024-12-24 21:43 +1100
Message-ID<lsvhi4Ftcv7U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71615
On 24/12/2024 9:24 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece 
>>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding 
>>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>
>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> Nope. Fact.
>>
>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>
>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>>> that he will not build them.
>>
>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they 
>>> are way cheaper,
>>
>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>
>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>
>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>> does and will continue to do forever.
> 
> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read Australia 
> was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our population is 
> only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that 1.25% figure 
> includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we then sell to others.
> 
> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take 
> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL 
> SUFFER, TOO!!

Yep, if we don't set an example, to the third world it looks as if we've 
had our run at industrialisation, caused all the problems and are now 
going to stop theirs. Leading by example is the thought that comes to 
mind here.

-- 
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
       (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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#71628

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-12-25 00:09 +1100
Message-ID<vkebqr$1s8dq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71621
Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 9:43 pm:
> On 24/12/2024 9:24 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

<Snip>

>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>
>>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>
>> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read Australia 
>> was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our population 
>> is only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that 1.25% figure 
>> includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we then sell to others.
>>
>> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take 
>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL 
>> SUFFER, TOO!!
> 
> Yep, if we don't set an example, to the third world it looks as if we've 
> had our run at industrialisation, caused all the problems and are now 
> going to stop theirs. Leading by example is the thought that comes to 
> mind here.
> 
Yeap!
-- 
Daniel

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#71633

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-25 07:27 +1100
Message-ID<op.2zawghqxbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71621
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:43:16 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> On 24/12/2024 9:24 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,  
>>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece  
>>>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding  
>>>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by  
>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY  
>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>
>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>
>>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>
>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce  
>>>> that he will not build them.
>>>
>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they  
>>>> are way cheaper,
>>>
>>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>
>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>
>>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>  You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read Australia  
>> was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our population  
>> is only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that 1.25% figure  
>> includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we then sell to  
>> others.
>>  In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take  
>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL  
>> SUFFER, TOO!!
>
> Yep, if we don't set an example, to the third world it looks as if we've  
> had our run at industrialisation, caused all the problems and are now  
> going to stop theirs. Leading by example is the thought that comes to  
> mind here.

The third world doesnt give a flying red fuck what this country chooses to  
do

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#71638

FromDaryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
Date2024-12-25 08:24 +1100
Message-ID<lt0n44F4pq9U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71633
On 25/12/2024 7:27 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:43:16 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> On 24/12/2024 9:24 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a 
>>>>>>>>>>> piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try 
>>>>>>>>>>> finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>>
>>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>>
>>>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>>
>>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then 
>>>>> announce that he will not build them.
>>>>
>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because 
>>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>>
>>>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>>
>>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>>
>>>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>>  You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read 
>>> Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our 
>>> population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that 
>>> 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we 
>>> then sell to others.
>>>  In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take 
>>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) 
>>> WILL SUFFER, TOO!!
>>
>> Yep, if we don't set an example, to the third world it looks as if 
>> we've had our run at industrialisation, caused all the problems and 
>> are now going to stop theirs. Leading by example is the thought that 
>> comes to mind here.
> 
> The third world doesnt give a flying red fuck what this country chooses 
> to do

I also doubt that they look in this direction when looking for someone 
to follow.
Having said that I still think that a slow steady reduction in our CO2 
is a good thing as long as we don't destroy our way of life in doing so.

-- 
Daryl

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#71642

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-25 09:15 +1100
Message-ID<op.2za1gpiebyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71638
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 08:24:20 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:

> On 25/12/2024 7:27 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:43:16 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/12/2024 9:24 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a  
>>>>>>>>>>>> piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try  
>>>>>>>>>>>> finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by  
>>>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY  
>>>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then  
>>>>>> announce that he will not build them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because  
>>>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>>>
>>>>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>>>  You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read  
>>>> Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though our  
>>>> population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe that  
>>>> 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which we  
>>>> then sell to others.
>>>>  In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take  
>>>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA)  
>>>> WILL SUFFER, TOO!!
>>>
>>> Yep, if we don't set an example, to the third world it looks as if  
>>> we've had our run at industrialisation, caused all the problems and  
>>> are now going to stop theirs. Leading by example is the thought that  
>>> comes to mind here.
>>  The third world doesnt give a flying red fuck what this country  
>> chooses to do
>
> I also doubt that they look in this direction when looking for someone  
> to follow.
> Having said that I still think that a slow steady reduction in our CO2  
> is a good thing as long as we don't destroy our way of life in doing so.

I'm not convinced that its worth doing, given that
whatever we do will have no measurable effect
what so ever on world CO2 levels or climate

Certainly what you did house wise is worth doing, but
that's because it saves you money and gives better comfort.

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#71648

FromMighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com>
Date2024-12-25 10:53 +1100
Message-ID<lt0vrcF6a9lU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71638
Daryl wrote:
> On 25/12/2024 7:27 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:43:16 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/12/2024 9:24 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try 
>>>>>>>>>>>> finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then 
>>>>>> announce that he will not build them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because 
>>>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>>>
>>>>> And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>>>  You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles. Last I heard/read 
>>>> Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 even though 
>>>> our population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds population. Maybe 
>>>> that 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in mining stuff which 
>>>> we then sell to others.
>>>>  In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) 
>>>> take measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE 
>>>> (AUSTRALIA) WILL SUFFER, TOO!!
>>>
>>> Yep, if we don't set an example, to the third world it looks as if 
>>> we've had our run at industrialisation, caused all the problems and 
>>> are now going to stop theirs. Leading by example is the thought that 
>>> comes to mind here.
>>
>> The third world doesnt give a flying red fuck what this country 
>> chooses to do
>
> I also doubt that they look in this direction when looking for someone 
> to follow.
> Having said that I still think that a slow steady reduction in our CO2 
> is a good thing as long as we don't destroy our way of life in doing so.
>

it's senseless to impose hardship on the Australian population when 
doing so has no effect at all on global warming

-- 
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.

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#71630

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-25 07:18 +1100
Message-ID<op.2zav1sgvbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71615
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:24:20 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>  
wrote:

> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,  
>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece  
>>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding  
>>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by  
>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY  
>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>
>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> Nope. Fact.
>>  Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>
>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce  
>>> that he will not build them.
>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>
>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because they  
>>> are way cheaper,
>>  And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>
>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>  Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>> does and will continue to do forever.

> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles.

Completely correct in fact.

> Last I heard/read Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2  
> even though our population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds  
> population. Maybe that 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in  
> mining stuff which we then sell to others.

> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take  
> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL  
> SUFFER, TOO!!

No evidence of any suffering

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#71652

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-12-25 22:25 +1100
Message-ID<vkgq3u$2ci9n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71630
Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:18 am:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:24:20 +1100, Daniel70 
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a 
>>>>>>>>>> piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try 
>>>>>>>>>> finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by 
>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>
>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>  Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>
>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce 
>>>> that he will not build them.
>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>
>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because 
>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>  And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>
>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>  Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>> does and will continue to do forever.
> 
>> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles.
> 
> Completely correct in fact.
> 
>> Last I heard/read Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2 
>> even though our population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds 
>> population. Maybe that 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in 
>> mining stuff which we then sell to others.
> 
>> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take 
>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL 
>> SUFFER, TOO!!
> 
> No evidence of any suffering

Roddles, do you understand the meaning of the word "WILL"?? ... as in 
"WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL SUFFER, TOO!!"??
-- 
Daniel

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#71655

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-26 04:53 +1100
Message-ID<op.2zcjzoyqbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71652
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 22:25:57 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>  
wrote:

> Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:18 am:
>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:24:20 +1100, Daniel70  
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:17 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,  
>>>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4  (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a  
>>>>>>>>>>> piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try  
>>>>>>>>>>> finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Depends on what is omitted as much as what is said.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  anyhow, Dutton will solve the problem when he becomes PM by  
>>>>>>>> building nuclear power plants
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY  
>>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>>
>>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>>  Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>>
>>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then announce  
>>>>> that he will not build them.
>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because  
>>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>>  And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>>
>>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>>  Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>
>>> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles.
>>  Completely correct in fact.
>>
>>> Last I heard/read Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total CO2  
>>> even though our population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds  
>>> population. Maybe that 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in  
>>> mining stuff which we then sell to others.
>>
>>> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take  
>>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL  
>>> SUFFER, TOO!!

>>  No evidence of any suffering

> Roddles, do you understand the meaning of the word "WILL"?? ... as in  
> "WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL SUFFER, TOO!!"??

We should have seen some suffering already if it was going to happen,  
fuckwit

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#71685

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-12-26 20:52 +1100
Message-ID<vkj90s$2tus9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#71655
Rod Speed wrote on 26/12/24 4:53 am:
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 22:25:57 +1100, Daniel70 
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:18 am:
>>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:24:20 +1100, Daniel70 
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson 
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

<Snip>

>>>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY 
>>>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>>>  Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then 
>>>>>> announce that he will not build them.
>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because 
>>>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>>>  And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>>>  Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels because
>>>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>>
>>>> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles.
>>>  Completely correct in fact.
>>>
>>>> Last I heard/read Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total 
>>>> CO2 even though our population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds 
>>>> population. Maybe that 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in 
>>>> mining stuff which we then sell to others.
>>>
>>>> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take 
>>>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA) 
>>>> WILL SUFFER, TOO!!
> 
>>>  No evidence of any suffering
> 
>> Roddles, do you understand the meaning of the word "WILL"?? ... as in 
>> "WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL SUFFER, TOO!!"??
> 
> We should have seen some suffering already if it was going to happen, 
> fuckwit

Oh!! And the Climatic conditions 'we' experience NOW are exactly the 
same as those experienced 50, 100, 250 years ago, are they, Roddles??

I think NOT!!
-- 
Daniel

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#71696

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-27 04:44 +1100
Message-ID<op.2zed7neybyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71685
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 20:52:35 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>  
wrote:

> Rod Speed wrote on 26/12/24 4:53 am:
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 22:25:57 +1100, Daniel70  
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:18 am:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:24:20 +1100, Daniel70  
>>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 23/12/24 5:19 pm:
>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:32:47 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2024 3:44 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:58:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson  
>>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit. Dutton will build exactly ZERO nukes. He will FINALLY  
>>>>>>>>> crunch the numbers and admit that they are way too expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. Fact.
>>>>>>  Can't be a fact until it happens and it won't happen, you watch
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dutton will find out just how much nukes cost and will then  
>>>>>>> announce that he will not build them.
>>>>>>  Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He will build gas and coal fired power stations instead, because  
>>>>>>> they are way cheaper,
>>>>>>  And aren't viable for anything like as long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gina wants  him to and he doesn't give a crap about CO2 emissions.
>>>>>>  Because even if we shut down everything which produces any CO2
>>>>>> including that produced in the manufacture of renewables and the
>>>>>> concrete used in the stupid wind towers, it would have no measurabe
>>>>>> effect what so ever of world climate or even world CO2 levels  
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> we produce fuck all of that compare with what the rest of the world
>>>>>> does and will continue to do forever.
>>>>
>>>>> You are correct ... to an extent, Roddles.
>>>>  Completely correct in fact.
>>>>
>>>>> Last I heard/read Australia was producing about 1.25% of the total  
>>>>> CO2 even though our population is only approx 0.43% of the worlds  
>>>>> population. Maybe that 1.25% figure includes the CO2 we produce in  
>>>>> mining stuff which we then sell to others.
>>>>
>>>>> In any case, if the rest of the Worlds population don't (also) take  
>>>>> measures to reduce the increasing atmospheric CO2, WE (AUSTRALIA)  
>>>>> WILL SUFFER, TOO!!
>>
>>>>  No evidence of any suffering
>>
>>> Roddles, do you understand the meaning of the word "WILL"?? ... as in  
>>> "WE (AUSTRALIA) WILL SUFFER, TOO!!"??
>>  We should have seen some suffering already if it was going to happen,  
>> fuckwit
>
> Oh!! And the Climatic conditions 'we' experience NOW are exactly the  
> same as those experienced 50, 100, 250 years ago, are they, Roddles??

Fraid so. The impact of bushfires is only different because the
population has increased so dramatically and we see a lot more
houses built in forested areas than there ever used to be.

> I think NOT!!

Yep, nothing viable to 'think' with.

That was proven when you proved you were completely
stupid when you believed the ignorant line that some
goon trainer ran that bullets fired from a horisontal gun
rise before they fall.

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