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Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.cars, aus.computers
Subject Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war
Date 2026-09-14 13:34 +1000
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Axel <none@not.here> wrote

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II9QtBSJUq0

> Sound like Albanese Labor's plan
>  “Hunger Plan” ….

Then you need a new hearing aid or your first hearing aid

> The architect was an agriculture official named Herbert Backe
> [BACK-eh], and the logic was coldly practical. Germany wanted the food
> grown in the Soviet breadbasket to feed its own army and people, so
> the plan diverted that food westward. The planners wrote the number
> down: 20 to 30 million people in the occupied East were expected to
> starve. The Nazis understood that going in. It was the point of the
> policy.

Nothing even remotely like that in this country

> The destruction of food in Australia happening now
> Tasmania and Riverina (goodbye Rod and his neighbors)

That is complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit

Nothing even remotely like that is happening in the MIA
and even the Farrer electorate only produces about 4%
of the food produced in the country anyway. Tasmania
produces fuck all and none of what it produces has
been replaced by pine plantations and none of the pine
plantations there has been done by the Albo govt

> The heart of a massive, brewing political and social crisis in
> regional Australia.

Complete and utter bullshit

> Many rural communities, agricultural advocates, and economists share
> frustration, arguing that sacrificing prime, food-producing
> agricultural land just to generate corporate carbon credits is
> incredibly short-sighted.

Complete and utter bullshit

> This exact tension—often called the "Food vs. Carbon" debate

There is no such debate

> is   causing a major political backlash acrossthe country for several    
> critical reasons:

BULLSHIT

> 1.
> The threat to food security australia’s premium agricultural zones,
> like the NSW Riverina or the Tasmanian agricultural flats, have taken
> generations of farming families to develop, clear, and optimize for
> food production.

None of that has been removed and replaced by pine plantations
for carbon credits.

> When a foreign investment firm uses taxpayer-backed subsidies

The subsidy is in fact sweet fuck all

> to buy a   functional, productive dairy or grainfarm and carpets it in a  
> pinus   radiata monoculture,

None of that is happening in either region

And NO ONE does pine plantations on irrigation
land, its MUCH too valuable for that

> that land is effectively locked out ofthe food  supply chain for decades.

That doesn't happen

> Critics argue that during a time of global food insecurity and rising
> grocery prices, taking highly productive Australian soil out of
> rotation to act as a "Pollution sink" for heavy industries is a
> dangerous policy failure .

That isn't happening here

> 2.
> Sucking regional communities dry

Nothing like that is happening

> the damage isn't just to the soil it
> fundamentally alters the fabric of regional towns.

> The "Ghost town" effect:

Just another silly little fantasy and isnt happening

>  a traditional broadacre, dairy, or irrigated crop farm employs local
> workers, uses local mechanics, buys from local grain merchants, and
> supports local schools.

And NONE of that is being replaced by pine plantations

> The forestry reality:
> once a carbon-credit pine plantation is planted, it requires almost
> zero labor or local input for the first 15 to 25 years until harvest.

More pig ignorant bullshit

Pine plantations are ALWAYS over planted and later
thinned LONG before harvest so you get decent
straight trees at harvest, you pig ignorant clown

> The local families leave, businesses close, and vibrant rural
> communities slowly hollow out

That hasn't happened anywhere where there are pine plantations

> .3.
> Subsidizing the destruction of local agriculture what infuriates local
> farmers the most is the unfair playing field created by the Australian
> carbon credit unit (accu) scheme and entities like the clean energy
> finance corporation (cefc).Local farming families who want to produce
> food cannot compete at auction against global multi-billion-dollar
> asset managers.

More complete and utter pig ignorant bullshit

Farming land has in fact increased a hell
of a lot where there a NO pine plantations

> Because these foreign firms are backed by governmentgreen subsidies    
> and the promise of lucrative carbon offsets,

Those subsidys are in fact sweet fuck all and are in fact
available for food trees like almonds and olive trees you
pig ignorant clown

> they can easily outbid   local farmers,

More complete and utter pig ignorant bullshit
and there is nothing even remotely like that
happening here

> artificially driving up the price of farmland and
> locking young Australian farmers out of the market

More complete and utter pig ignorant bullshit

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OT: If Hitler had won the war Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-09-13 17:11 +1000
  Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war Noddy <me@home.com> - 2026-09-13 20:36 +1000
    Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2026-09-13 21:21 +1000
    Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2026-09-14 13:05 +1000
  Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-09-14 02:13 +1000
    Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-09-14 08:38 +1000
      Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-09-14 08:51 +1000
    Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-09-14 10:21 +1000
      Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-09-14 13:12 +1000
  Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-09-14 10:36 +1000
    Re: OT: If Hitler had won the war "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-09-14 13:34 +1000

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