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| Started by | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100 |
| Last post | 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 217 — 16 participants |
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The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 14:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 17:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 17:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 18:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 19:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 20:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 08:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 09:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 00:08 +0000
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 11:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 12:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:45 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 16:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 17:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:34 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 15:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 16:11 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 17:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:04 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 20:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 20:49 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 22:12 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 12:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-12-27 10:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-27 12:12 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-27 16:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-27 16:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-12-27 19:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 19:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 20:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 17:14 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 17:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:30 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:14 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 19:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 20:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 17:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 17:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:05 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 20:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 19:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 20:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 21:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 22:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero sammy <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 22:07 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 05:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 22:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:21 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:57 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:07 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:00 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 21:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:47 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:35 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 16:06 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:14 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:07 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 19:42 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 20:57 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-25 08:08 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:37 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 19:11 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:55 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:11 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:51 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 11:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:34 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-24 21:55 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-12-24 23:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:20 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 18:50 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:29 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 18:00 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 19:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:05 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:26 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-26 19:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 22:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 23:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-27 19:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:03 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 14:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 14:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:32 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-24 12:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 13:10 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:37 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:21 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 00:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 20:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 17:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 17:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-23 18:52 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero SAG <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 05:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:05 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 18:37 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:06 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:41 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 06:03 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:18 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 17:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 18:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 16:37 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 17:08 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 17:03 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 22:56 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:12 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 19:25 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lssl4lFf8u7U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372108 |
On 23/12/2024 5:28 pm, Noddy wrote: > On 23/12/2024 4:30 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: > > >> **BULLSHIT. We have high electricity prices because various state >> governments sold electricity assets to private companies. Private >> companies can gouge consumers. After all, they have to pay huge chunks >> of cash to overseas shareholders, overpaid corporate directors and >> other entities. > > ROTFL :) You have no fucking idea. Do you? :) > > The electricity market is governed by the Australian Energy Regulator, > which is a Federal Government department, and a completely toothless > tiger. We have high electricity prices in this country because they > simply rubber stamp price increases whenever the energy companies *ask* > for them. Energy companies in this country are making record profits, > yet they ask for price increases every year and they are approved by the > AER without question. > > Jesus Christ. You're away with the fairies..... **You're agreeing with me. We have high prices because various state governments sold off electricity assets. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 20:18 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsso75Ffo5eU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372115 |
On 23/12/2024 7:25 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/12/2024 5:28 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 23/12/2024 4:30 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> **BULLSHIT. We have high electricity prices because various state
>>> governments sold electricity assets to private companies. Private
>>> companies can gouge consumers. After all, they have to pay huge
>>> chunks of cash to overseas shareholders, overpaid corporate directors
>>> and other entities.
>>
>> ROTFL :) You have no fucking idea. Do you? :)
>>
>> The electricity market is governed by the Australian Energy Regulator,
>> which is a Federal Government department, and a completely toothless
>> tiger. We have high electricity prices in this country because they
>> simply rubber stamp price increases whenever the energy companies
>> *ask* for them. Energy companies in this country are making record
>> profits, yet they ask for price increases every year and they are
>> approved by the AER without question.
>>
>> Jesus Christ. You're away with the fairies.....
>
> **You're agreeing with me. We have high prices because various state
> governments sold off electricity assets.
>
Amazing, Dumb Darren is trying to break his own record of *dumb*. Now
that's quite a feat for his *dumb* is at an impressive levels.
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | Noddy <me@home.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 21:53 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vkbfer$15rs9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #372115 |
On 23/12/2024 7:25 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 23/12/2024 5:28 pm, Noddy wrote: >> On 23/12/2024 4:30 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> >> >>> **BULLSHIT. We have high electricity prices because various state >>> governments sold electricity assets to private companies. Private >>> companies can gouge consumers. After all, they have to pay huge >>> chunks of cash to overseas shareholders, overpaid corporate directors >>> and other entities. >> >> ROTFL :) You have no fucking idea. Do you? :) >> >> The electricity market is governed by the Australian Energy Regulator, >> which is a Federal Government department, and a completely toothless >> tiger. We have high electricity prices in this country because they >> simply rubber stamp price increases whenever the energy companies >> *ask* for them. Energy companies in this country are making record >> profits, yet they ask for price increases every year and they are >> approved by the AER without question. >> >> Jesus Christ. You're away with the fairies..... > > **You're agreeing with me. We have high prices because various state > governments sold off electricity assets. I'm rapidly becoming convinced that English isn't your first language. Let me try again. We have high prices in this country because the *GOVERNMENT* permits them to be. -- -- -- Regards, Noddy. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 22:22 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lssvgaFgtbfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372125 |
On 23/12/2024 9:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 23/12/2024 7:25 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/12/2024 5:28 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 23/12/2024 4:30 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> **BULLSHIT. We have high electricity prices because various state
>>>> governments sold electricity assets to private companies. Private
>>>> companies can gouge consumers. After all, they have to pay huge
>>>> chunks of cash to overseas shareholders, overpaid corporate
>>>> directors and other entities.
>>>
>>> ROTFL :) You have no fucking idea. Do you? :)
>>>
>>> The electricity market is governed by the Australian Energy
>>> Regulator, which is a Federal Government department, and a completely
>>> toothless tiger. We have high electricity prices in this country
>>> because they simply rubber stamp price increases whenever the energy
>>> companies *ask* for them. Energy companies in this country are making
>>> record profits, yet they ask for price increases every year and they
>>> are approved by the AER without question.
>>>
>>> Jesus Christ. You're away with the fairies.....
>>
>> **You're agreeing with me. We have high prices because various state
>> governments sold off electricity assets.
>
> I'm rapidly becoming convinced that English isn't your first language.
> Let me try again. We have high prices in this country because the
> *GOVERNMENT* permits them to be.
Don't bother Darren, it's obvious you're confused. Dense text on a page,
lots of numbers, confusing concepts, they're all beyond your ken.
When the government *owned* the grid, they could control prices. The
governments now no longer own *any* of the grid so the private providers
now set the rules and play merry hell with any rule the governments set
up. Your problem - you have a simplistic view of *everything*.
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | sammy <Factman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 22:07 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vkbjr3$16o70$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #372125 |
Noddy wrote: > On 23/12/2024 7:25 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 23/12/2024 5:28 pm, Noddy wrote: >>> On 23/12/2024 4:30 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> >>> >>>> **BULLSHIT. We have high electricity prices because various state >>>> governments sold electricity assets to private companies. Private >>>> companies can gouge consumers. After all, they have to pay huge >>>> chunks of cash to overseas shareholders, overpaid corporate >>>> directors and other entities. >>> >>> ROTFL :) You have no fucking idea. Do you? :) >>> >>> The electricity market is governed by the Australian Energy >>> Regulator, which is a Federal Government department, and a completely >>> toothless tiger. We have high electricity prices in this country >>> because they simply rubber stamp price increases whenever the energy >>> companies *ask* for them. Energy companies in this country are making >>> record profits, yet they ask for price increases every year and they >>> are approved by the AER without question. >>> >>> Jesus Christ. You're away with the fairies..... >> >> **You're agreeing with me. We have high prices because various state >> governments sold off electricity assets. > > I'm rapidly becoming convinced that English isn't your first language. > Let me try again. We have high prices in this country because the > *GOVERNMENT* permits them to be. Oooh! A new one! Liar, Hypocrite, Coward, Fraud and nowwww! Weasel! Jaysus Fraudster! Why the weasel? It isn't like we're not used to you making a fool of yourself. Why aren't you following your standard m.o. and just pretend to ignore your obvious pratfall? alvey -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 21:00 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vkbcch$159mk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #372087 |
Trevor Wilson wrote on 23/12/24 1:40 pm: > On 23/12/2024 11:38 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris >>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political >>>>>> Contributor >>>>>> >>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>> >>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>> >>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>> >>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who >>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're >>>> following that example. >>> >>> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for >>> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not >>> a scientific source of note. >>> >>>> deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >>> >>> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as >>> rapidly as possible and then we must aim to reverse net >>> emissions. IOW: We must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere >>> to bring it back to approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the >>> human race will incur costs that are so high that we cannot ever >>> pay for the costs. As has been said for at least 25 years: Acting >>> sooner is cheaper than acting later. Should we fail to keep >>> atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately 500ppm, then nothing >>> humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe. The cost will >>> exceed the GDP of the planet several times over. >> >> I'm aware of the problem >> (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon- dioxide/), however we >> have vast reserves of coal that could provide us with cheap >> electricity, > > **How about the CO2 emissions? Did you forget that? We MUST move away > from coal. > >> but thanks to green ideology we have high electricity prices. > > **BULLSHIT. Most places in Australia have high electricity prices > because we have stupid state governments that sold off profitable > state assets. Like electricity generation. > > Remind us: Which Victorian state government sold off electricity > generating assets? Umm! That was Jeff Kennett, wasn't it?? Doing his Business Mates a favour. -- Daniel
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 05:35 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2y8wlnhjbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #372121 |
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:00:54 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > Trevor Wilson wrote on 23/12/24 1:40 pm: >> On 23/12/2024 11:38 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris >>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political >>>>>>> Contributor >>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>> >>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who >>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're >>>>> following that example. >>>> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for >>>> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not >>>> a scientific source of note. >>>> >>>>> deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >>>> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as >>>> rapidly as possible and then we must aim to reverse net >>>> emissions. IOW: We must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere >>>> to bring it back to approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the >>>> human race will incur costs that are so high that we cannot ever >>>> pay for the costs. As has been said for at least 25 years: Acting >>>> sooner is cheaper than acting later. Should we fail to keep >>>> atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately 500ppm, then nothing >>>> humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe. The cost will >>>> exceed the GDP of the planet several times over. >>> I'm aware of the problem >>> (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon- dioxide/), however we >>> have vast reserves of coal that could provide us with cheap >>> electricity, >> **How about the CO2 emissions? Did you forget that? We MUST move away >> from coal. >> >>> but thanks to green ideology we have high electricity prices. >> **BULLSHIT. Most places in Australia have high electricity prices >> because we have stupid state governments that sold off profitable >> state assets. Like electricity generation. >> Remind us: Which Victorian state government sold off electricity >> generating assets? > Umm! That was Jeff Kennett, wasn't it?? Yep > Doing his Business Mates a favour. Nope, avoiding state bankruptsy
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-24 22:58 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsvlubFubrbU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372141 |
Rod Speed wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:00:54 +1100, Daniel70 > <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> Trevor Wilson wrote on 23/12/24 1:40 pm: >>> On 23/12/2024 11:38 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris >>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political >>>>>>>> Contributor >>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who >>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're >>>>>> following that example. >>>>> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for >>>>> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not >>>>> a scientific source of note. >>>>> >>>>>> deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >>>>> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as >>>>> rapidly as possible and then we must aim to reverse net >>>>> emissions. IOW: We must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere >>>>> to bring it back to approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the >>>>> human race will incur costs that are so high that we cannot ever >>>>> pay for the costs. As has been said for at least 25 years: Acting >>>>> sooner is cheaper than acting later. Should we fail to keep >>>>> atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately 500ppm, then nothing >>>>> humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe. The cost will >>>>> exceed the GDP of the planet several times over. >>>> I'm aware of the problem >>>> (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon- dioxide/), however we >>>> have vast reserves of coal that could provide us with cheap >>>> electricity, >>> **How about the CO2 emissions? Did you forget that? We MUST move away >>> from coal. >>> >>>> but thanks to green ideology we have high electricity prices. >>> **BULLSHIT. Most places in Australia have high electricity prices >>> because we have stupid state governments that sold off profitable >>> state assets. Like electricity generation. >>> Remind us: Which Victorian state government sold off electricity >>> generating assets? > >> Umm! That was Jeff Kennett, wasn't it?? > > Yep > >> Doing his Business Mates a favour. > > Nope, avoiding state bankruptsy kids today are poorly educated about our history -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-24 23:13 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsvmrbFu970U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372223 |
On 24/12/2024 10:58 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:00:54 +1100, Daniel70
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote on 23/12/24 1:40 pm:
>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:38 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris
>>>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political
>>>>>>>>> Contributor
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron?
>>>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who
>>>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're
>>>>>>> following that example.
>>>>>> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for
>>>>>> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not
>>>>>> a scientific source of note.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon
>>>>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets.
>>>>>> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as
>>>>>> rapidly as possible and then we must aim to reverse net
>>>>>> emissions. IOW: We must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere
>>>>>> to bring it back to approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the
>>>>>> human race will incur costs that are so high that we cannot ever
>>>>>> pay for the costs. As has been said for at least 25 years: Acting
>>>>>> sooner is cheaper than acting later. Should we fail to keep
>>>>>> atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately 500ppm, then nothing
>>>>>> humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe. The cost will
>>>>>> exceed the GDP of the planet several times over.
>>>>> I'm aware of the problem
>>>>> (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon- dioxide/), however we
>>>>> have vast reserves of coal that could provide us with cheap
>>>>> electricity,
>>>> **How about the CO2 emissions? Did you forget that? We MUST move away
>>>> from coal.
>>>>
>>>>> but thanks to green ideology we have high electricity prices.
>>>> **BULLSHIT. Most places in Australia have high electricity prices
>>>> because we have stupid state governments that sold off profitable
>>>> state assets. Like electricity generation.
>>>> Remind us: Which Victorian state government sold off electricity
>>>> generating assets?
>>
>>> Umm! That was Jeff Kennett, wasn't it??
>>
>> Yep
>>
>>> Doing his Business Mates a favour.
>>
>> Nope, avoiding state bankruptsy
>
> kids today are poorly educated about our history
>
Not only kids! Some adults seem doomed to repeat history.
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-25 07:31 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2zawl5oabyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #372223 |
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:58:03 +1100, Mighty Mouse <squeak!@thecheesefactory.com> wrote: > Rod Speed wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:00:54 +1100, Daniel70 >> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> >>> Trevor Wilson wrote on 23/12/24 1:40 pm: >>>> On 23/12/2024 11:38 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris >>>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political >>>>>>>>> Contributor >>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who >>>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're >>>>>>> following that example. >>>>>> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for >>>>>> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not >>>>>> a scientific source of note. >>>>>> >>>>>>> deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>>>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >>>>>> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as >>>>>> rapidly as possible and then we must aim to reverse net >>>>>> emissions. IOW: We must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere >>>>>> to bring it back to approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the >>>>>> human race will incur costs that are so high that we cannot ever >>>>>> pay for the costs. As has been said for at least 25 years: Acting >>>>>> sooner is cheaper than acting later. Should we fail to keep >>>>>> atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately 500ppm, then nothing >>>>>> humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe. The cost will >>>>>> exceed the GDP of the planet several times over. >>>>> I'm aware of the problem >>>>> (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon- dioxide/), however we >>>>> have vast reserves of coal that could provide us with cheap >>>>> electricity, >>>> **How about the CO2 emissions? Did you forget that? We MUST move away >>>> from coal. >>>> >>>>> but thanks to green ideology we have high electricity prices. >>>> **BULLSHIT. Most places in Australia have high electricity prices >>>> because we have stupid state governments that sold off profitable >>>> state assets. Like electricity generation. >>>> Remind us: Which Victorian state government sold off electricity >>>> generating assets? >> >>> Umm! That was Jeff Kennett, wasn't it?? >> >> Yep >> >>> Doing his Business Mates a favour. >> >> Nope, avoiding state bankruptsy > > kids today are poorly educated about our history Trouble is that he is no kid, just ignorant.
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| From | Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-25 08:28 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lt0ncqF4pq9U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372240 |
On 25/12/2024 7:31 am, Rod Speed wrote: > On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:58:03 +1100, Mighty Mouse <squeak! > @thecheesefactory.com> wrote: > >> Rod Speed wrote: >>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:00:54 +1100, Daniel70 >>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Trevor Wilson wrote on 23/12/24 1:40 pm: >>>>> On 23/12/2024 11:38 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris >>>>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political >>>>>>>>>> Contributor >>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who >>>>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're >>>>>>>> following that example. >>>>>>> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for >>>>>>> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not >>>>>>> a scientific source of note. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>>>>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >>>>>>> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as >>>>>>> rapidly as possible and then we must aim to reverse net >>>>>>> emissions. IOW: We must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere >>>>>>> to bring it back to approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the >>>>>>> human race will incur costs that are so high that we cannot ever >>>>>>> pay for the costs. As has been said for at least 25 years: Acting >>>>>>> sooner is cheaper than acting later. Should we fail to keep >>>>>>> atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately 500ppm, then nothing >>>>>>> humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe. The cost will >>>>>>> exceed the GDP of the planet several times over. >>>>>> I'm aware of the problem >>>>>> (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon- dioxide/), however we >>>>>> have vast reserves of coal that could provide us with cheap >>>>>> electricity, >>>>> **How about the CO2 emissions? Did you forget that? We MUST move away >>>>> from coal. >>>>> >>>>>> but thanks to green ideology we have high electricity prices. >>>>> **BULLSHIT. Most places in Australia have high electricity prices >>>>> because we have stupid state governments that sold off profitable >>>>> state assets. Like electricity generation. >>>>> Remind us: Which Victorian state government sold off electricity >>>>> generating assets? >>> >>>> Umm! That was Jeff Kennett, wasn't it?? >>> >>> Yep >>> >>>> Doing his Business Mates a favour. >>> >>> Nope, avoiding state bankruptsy >> >> kids today are poorly educated about our history > > Trouble is that he is no kid, just ignorant. Depends who he means by "kids", my "kids" are 42 and 39 and are very well versed in recent history. My 42 yr old sparkie son recently mentioned that the contracts to manage Victoria's electricity have expired or are due to expire soon so it will be interesting to see how state Govts manage new the contracts. -- Daryl
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| From | alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-23 07:23 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vka006$q2m8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #372016 |
Mighty Mouse wrote: > Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> >>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>> >>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>> >>> or watch the documentary .. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>> >> >> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? > > in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a King > news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that example. deal > with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon emissions, but how > it's done, and setting realistic targets. You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact". The "fact" is that Murdoch has a long and proven history of being a climate change denier. (It's actually one of the reasons why he recently tried to change his will). alvey
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-23 11:22 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsropkFb2eqU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372075 |
alvey wrote: > Mighty Mouse wrote: >> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> >>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>> >>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>> >>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>> >>> >>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >> >> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a >> King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that >> example. deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. > > You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the > messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact". so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you won't since you didn't listen/watch. but if you had taken the trouble to know what you're talking about, you would know that it's not about denying climate change. > > The "fact" is that Murdoch has a long and proven history of being a > climate change denier. (It's actually one of the reasons why he > recently tried to change his will). > > > alvey -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 11:21 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vkadvq$sj96$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #372078 |
Mighty Mouse wrote: > alvey wrote: >> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>> >>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>> >>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>> >>>> >>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>> >>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a >>> King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that >>> example. deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >> >> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the >> messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact". > > so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you won't > since you didn't listen/watch. I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big ask), but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a succession of self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially when they were all reading from the same script, "Coal power works when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine" they chanted. Whoopee. Batteries specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the 25min mark, the best that the OPs could do to diss the battery storage of NP was chorus that the cost of battery storage was "huge". Adjectives don't cut it as a decisive argument. Neither does interviewing one Canberra pensioner complaining about the cost of her electricity bill a decent sample size make. They were, like Trump, big on fear and opinion, but relatively light on (haha) facts and stats. Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate. > but if you had taken the trouble to know > what you're talking about, you would know that it's not about denying > climate change. Yeah, it is. That plus "huge" dollop of self-interest on top. Fact is felix that burning fossil fuels has been a major contributor to creating an over-heating and struggling planet. It seems a no-brainer to ditch it and use sources that are both infinite and free, *even* if it does cost more. alvey Again suggesting that you read something that's not Murdoch. It's not illegal you know. Yet.
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-23 13:57 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lss1tmFcgjlU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372082 |
alvey wrote: > Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>> >>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>> >>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>> >>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a >>>> King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that >>>> example. deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >>> >>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the >>> messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact". >> >> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you won't >> since you didn't listen/watch. > > I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big ask), > but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a succession of > self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially when they were all > reading from the same script, "Coal power works when the wind doesn't > blow and the sun doesn't shine" they chanted. Whoopee. Batteries > specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the 25min mark, the best that the OPs > could do to diss the battery storage of NP was chorus that the cost of > battery storage was "huge". Adjectives don't cut it as a decisive > argument. Neither does interviewing one Canberra pensioner complaining > about the cost of her electricity bill a decent sample size make. They > were, like Trump, big on fear and opinion, but relatively light on > (haha) facts and stats. > > Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate. I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference. > >> but if you had taken the trouble to know what you're talking about, >> you would know that it's not about denying climate change. > > Yeah, it is. That plus "huge" dollop of self-interest on top. > > Fact is felix that burning fossil fuels has been a major contributor > to creating an over-heating and struggling planet. It seems a > no-brainer to > ditch it and use sources that are both infinite and free, *even* if it > does cost more. > we know that. but the fact is we could have kept our coal power plants until we had viable power sources and there would have been NO effect on global warming considering the minuscule effect our total emissions do have. > > alvey > Again suggesting that you read something that's not Murdoch. It's not > illegal you know. Yet. > truth is truth and facts are facts irrespective of the source. -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-23 15:16 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lss6gtFd56jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372088 |
On 23/12/2024 1:57 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> alvey wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,
>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron?
>>>>>
>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a
>>>>> King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that
>>>>> example. deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon
>>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets.
>>>>
>>>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the
>>>> messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact".
>>>
>>> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you won't
>>> since you didn't listen/watch.
>>
>> I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big ask),
>> but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a succession of
>> self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially when they were all
>> reading from the same script, "Coal power works when the wind doesn't
>> blow and the sun doesn't shine" they chanted. Whoopee. Batteries
>> specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the 25min mark, the best that the OPs
>> could do to diss the battery storage of NP was chorus that the cost of
>> battery storage was "huge". Adjectives don't cut it as a decisive
>> argument. Neither does interviewing one Canberra pensioner complaining
>> about the cost of her electricity bill a decent sample size make. They
>> were, like Trump, big on fear and opinion, but relatively light on
>> (haha) facts and stats.
>>
>> Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate.
>
> I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference.
If you cite a doco *for reference*, it behooves you to at least know and
understand the content of said doco.
>
>>
>>> but if you had taken the trouble to know what you're talking about,
>>> you would know that it's not about denying climate change.
>>
>> Yeah, it is. That plus "huge" dollop of self-interest on top.
>>
>> Fact is felix that burning fossil fuels has been a major contributor
>> to creating an over-heating and struggling planet. It seems a no-
>> brainer to
>> ditch it and use sources that are both infinite and free, *even* if it
>> does cost more.
>>
>
> we know that. but the fact is we could have kept our coal power plants
> until we had viable power sources and there would have been NO effect on
> global warming considering the minuscule effect our total emissions do
> have.
Nope, the coal fired plants are well past their use by dates. Keeping
them going will cost more than building, say, gas peaking plants.
>
>>
>> alvey
>> Again suggesting that you read something that's not Murdoch. It's not
>> illegal you know. Yet.
>>
>
> truth is truth and facts are facts irrespective of the source.
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | alvey <Factman@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-23 18:07 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vkb5o9$141mb$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #372094 |
Xeno wrote: > On 23/12/2024 1:57 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> alvey wrote: >>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>>>> >>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought >>>>>> a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that >>>>>> example. deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon >>>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. >>>>> >>>>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the >>>>> messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact". >>>> >>>> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you >>>> won't since you didn't listen/watch. >>> >>> I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big ask), >>> but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a succession of >>> self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially when they were >>> all reading from the same script, "Coal power works when the wind >>> doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine" they chanted. Whoopee. >>> Batteries specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the 25min mark, the best that >>> the OPs could do to diss the battery storage of NP was chorus that >>> the cost of battery storage was "huge". Adjectives don't cut it as a >>> decisive argument. Neither does interviewing one Canberra pensioner >>> complaining about the cost of her electricity bill a decent sample >>> size make. They were, like Trump, big on fear and opinion, but >>> relatively light on (haha) facts and stats. >>> >>> Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate. >> >> I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference. > > If you cite a doco *for reference*, it behooves you to at least know and > understand the content of said doco. Yep. That's pretty embarrassing felix. alvey -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 15:53 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsut2aFqhl9U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372112 |
alvey wrote: > Xeno wrote: >> On 23/12/2024 1:57 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> alvey wrote: >>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who >>>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're >>>>>>> following that example. deal with the facts. it's not about not >>>>>>> reducing carbon emissions, but how it's done, and setting >>>>>>> realistic targets. >>>>>> >>>>>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the >>>>>> messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact". >>>>> >>>>> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you >>>>> won't since you didn't listen/watch. >>>> >>>> I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big >>>> ask), but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a >>>> succession of self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially >>>> when they were all reading from the same script, "Coal power works >>>> when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine" they chanted. >>>> Whoopee. Batteries specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the 25min mark, >>>> the best that the OPs could do to diss the battery storage of NP >>>> was chorus that the cost of battery storage was "huge". Adjectives >>>> don't cut it as a decisive argument. Neither does interviewing one >>>> Canberra pensioner complaining about the cost of her electricity >>>> bill a decent sample size make. They were, like Trump, big on fear >>>> and opinion, but relatively light on (haha) facts and stats. >>>> >>>> Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate. >>> >>> I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference. >> >> If you cite a doco *for reference*, it behooves you to at least know >> and understand the content of said doco. > > Yep. That's pretty embarrassing felix. > > I cited it because it was the subject of the interview. I didn't refer to any of it's content. > > alvey > -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 18:41 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsv6u0FrrvnU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372166 |
On 24/12/2024 3:53 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 23/12/2024 1:57 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,
>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who
>>>>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're
>>>>>>>> following that example. deal with the facts. it's not about not
>>>>>>>> reducing carbon emissions, but how it's done, and setting
>>>>>>>> realistic targets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the
>>>>>>> messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you
>>>>>> won't since you didn't listen/watch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big
>>>>> ask), but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a
>>>>> succession of self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially
>>>>> when they were all reading from the same script, "Coal power works
>>>>> when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine" they chanted.
>>>>> Whoopee. Batteries specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the 25min mark,
>>>>> the best that the OPs could do to diss the battery storage of NP
>>>>> was chorus that the cost of battery storage was "huge". Adjectives
>>>>> don't cut it as a decisive argument. Neither does interviewing one
>>>>> Canberra pensioner complaining about the cost of her electricity
>>>>> bill a decent sample size make. They were, like Trump, big on fear
>>>>> and opinion, but relatively light on (haha) facts and stats.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference.
>>>
>>> If you cite a doco *for reference*, it behooves you to at least know
>>> and understand the content of said doco.
>>
>> Yep. That's pretty embarrassing felix.
>>
>>
>
> I cited it because it was the subject of the interview. I didn't refer
> to any of it's content.
You couldn't because you never read it so didn't know what the contents
were or even their focus or bias.
>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 19:48 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsvaqnFslceU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #372176 |
Xeno wrote: > On 24/12/2024 3:53 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Xeno wrote: >>>> On 23/12/2024 1:57 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris >>>>>>>>>>> Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political >>>>>>>>>>> Contributor >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who >>>>>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're >>>>>>>>> following that example. deal with the facts. it's not about >>>>>>>>> not reducing carbon emissions, but how it's done, and setting >>>>>>>>> realistic targets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting >>>>>>>> the messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you >>>>>>> won't since you didn't listen/watch. >>>>>> >>>>>> I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big >>>>>> ask), but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a >>>>>> succession of self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially >>>>>> when they were all reading from the same script, "Coal power >>>>>> works when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine" they >>>>>> chanted. Whoopee. Batteries specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the >>>>>> 25min mark, the best that the OPs could do to diss the battery >>>>>> storage of NP was chorus that the cost of battery storage was >>>>>> "huge". Adjectives don't cut it as a decisive argument. Neither >>>>>> does interviewing one Canberra pensioner complaining about the >>>>>> cost of her electricity bill a decent sample size make. They >>>>>> were, like Trump, big on fear and opinion, but relatively light >>>>>> on (haha) facts and stats. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate. >>>>> >>>>> I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference. >>>> >>>> If you cite a doco *for reference*, it behooves you to at least >>>> know and understand the content of said doco. >>> >>> Yep. That's pretty embarrassing felix. >>> >>> >> >> I cited it because it was the subject of the interview. I didn't >> refer to any of it's content. > > You couldn't because you never read it so didn't know what the > contents were or even their focus or bias. I post to to provide material for discussion >> >>> >>> alvey >>> >> >> > > -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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