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Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.aviation
Subject Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market
Date 2024-09-06 09:31 +1000
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:07:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> https://koalaair.com.au
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
>>>>>       https://t.ly/sbaFF
>>>>>
>>>>> Helwing Villamizar
>>>>> August 27, 2024
>>>>> DALLAS — Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
>>>>> “break the mold” and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
>>>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
>>>>> Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations  
>>>>> with
>>>>> Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
>>>>> The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
>>>>> complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
>>>>> established LCC standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
>>>> Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one  
>>>> ever
>>>> talks about that has been around for a long time.
>>>> Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have
>>>> some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and  
>>>> the
>>>> general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
>>>> They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.
>>>>
>>> Alliance Airlines
>>> <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>
>>>
>>> Suspect there is money in failing?
>>
>> Unlikely.
>>
>>> There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get
>>> paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.
>>>
>>> I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local
>>> carrier without Government subsidies?
>>
>> AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional
>> routes.
>> Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

> Seems they are all running on fumes,

Nope, Rex was profitable before covid and the 737 insanity

Qantas never was.

> Dodgey economics at best
> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
>    https://t.ly/mwhxv
> Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25
> billion in the 2024 financial year.

$1.25B isnt running on fumes.

> Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
> been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees
> and shareholders".
> What's next?
> Qantas didn't declare a dividend, but it announced an up to $400
> million share buyback.

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Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-08-29 07:25 +1000
  Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-08-29 10:18 +1000
    Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-08-29 13:38 +1000
      Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-08-29 14:18 +1000
        Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-08-29 18:07 +1000
          Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-08-29 21:54 +1000
            Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-08-30 19:03 +1000
              Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-08-30 22:21 +1000
                Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-08-31 09:38 +1000
                Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-08-31 10:27 +1000
              Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-09-06 09:34 +1000
          Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-09-06 09:31 +1000
        Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-09-06 09:28 +1000
      Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-09-06 09:27 +1000
    Re: Koala Airlines to enter Australian market "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-09-06 09:04 +1000

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