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Super Intelligence

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First post2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
Last post2026-10-08 20:32 -0700
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  Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
    Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
      Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-02 20:01 -0300
            Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 09:27 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0000
            Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:15 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:03 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 12:59 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 04:20 +0800
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 16:03 -0700
                      Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:35 +0800
                        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 18:08 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 10:01 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-08 09:02 +0200
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:11 +0800
                  Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 17:29 +0200
                    Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-08 17:09 -0300
                      Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-09 08:37 +0200
                        Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 15:39 +0800
                          Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-11 17:52 +0200
                            Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 11:45 -0700
                              Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 12:24 -0700
                              Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-12 10:15 +0200
                                Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 02:45 -0700
                                  Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-12 12:54 +0200
                                    Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-13 00:02 +0800
                                  Re: Super Intelligence Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-12 19:12 +0100
                  Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 10:38 -0700
                    Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:37 +0800
                      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 16:26 -0700
                        Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-18 12:30 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:17 -0600
                            Re: Super Intelligence Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-10-19 11:26 +1300
                              Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:49 -0600
                            Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-19 13:02 +1100
                      Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:49 +1100
                        Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 17:17 -0700
                        Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                          Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 19:02 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:12 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-09 09:27 +1300
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:16 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:29 +1100
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:22 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence squalk <sq@net.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:17 +0100
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:43 +0800
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:26 -0700
              Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-08 11:00 +1300
      Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-09-30 12:23 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:22 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0100
            Re: Super Intelligence Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-02 09:21 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-10-01 22:52 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
            Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:47 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
            Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-02 20:37 +1000
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:21 +0200
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:06 +0800
              Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
              Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:53 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
    Re: Super Intelligence Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2026-10-07 02:55 -0400
      Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:08 +0800
        Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-07 23:04 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-08 10:21 +1100
            Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 20:13 -0700
            Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 08:24 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-08 11:44 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-08 22:34 +1100
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:13 +0800
                  Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-08 17:01 -0300
                    Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:55 +0800
                    Re: Super Intelligence Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-08 21:59 -0400
                      Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 10:20 +0800
                  Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-25 15:19 +0000
              Re: Super Intelligence Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-08 14:12 -0400
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:57 +0800
              Re: Super Intelligence Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 18:10 -0400
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:32 -0700

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#1151664

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
Message-ID<6ABF40D1.7F0E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1151629
s|b wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> 
> > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> >
> > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> > >
> > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > > irrationality?
> 
> > Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> What about REAL stupidity?

The majority of physics teachers don't have a physics degree.



> 
> --
> Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
>                 - Julius Caesar

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151665

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
Message-ID<6ABF4178.2F71@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1151629
s|b wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> 
> > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> >
> > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> > >
> > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > > irrationality?
> 
> > Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> What about REAL stupidity?


Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?

dats real stupidity!

whos idea was dat?



> 
> --
> Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
>                 - Julius Caesar

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151677

Fromwugi <wugi@brol.invalid>
Date2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
Message-ID<119nu14$1vc2f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1151665
Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:
> s|b wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
>>
>>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>>>
>>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>>>
>>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>>> irrationality?
>>
>>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
>>
>> What about REAL stupidity?
> 
> 
> Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
> 
> dats real stupidity!
> 
> whos idea was dat?

That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An 
artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil 
engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal 
systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?

-- 
guido wugi

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#1151682

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Date2026-10-02 20:37 +1000
Message-ID<119o1hv$20tkn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1151677
[Crank groups deleted]

On 02/10/26 19:37, wugi wrote:
> Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:

>> Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
>>
>> dats real stupidity!
>>
>> whos idea was dat?
>
> That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An
> artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil
> engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal
> systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?

On the other hand, consider the following examples of intelligent design.

1. Our arms are exactly long enough to reach our genitals.

2. A well-formed turd is the same size and shape as an erect penis.

This gives some insight into the thinking of the designer.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1151933

Fromoccam <occam@nowhere.nix>
Date2026-10-07 17:21 +0200
Message-ID<nin6chFb4oaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1151682
On 02/10/2026 12:37, Peter Moylan wrote:
> [Crank groups deleted]
> 
> On 02/10/26 19:37, wugi wrote:
>> Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:
> 
>>> Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
>>>
>>> dats real stupidity!
>>>
>>> whos idea was dat?
>>
>> That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An
>> artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil
>> engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal
>> systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?
> 
> On the other hand, consider the following examples of intelligent design.
> 
> 1. Our arms are exactly long enough to reach our genitals.

How else could you write your name in the snow in yellow? >
> 2. A well-formed turd is the same size and shape as an erect penis.

Hmm. I'll check. But first, I'll have to see what the International
Standard length for an erect penis is.

> 
> This gives some insight into the thinking of the designer.
>



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#1151939

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 02:06 +0800
Message-ID<0TvxS.407$SBg4.91@fx09.ams4>
In reply to#1151933
On 10/7/2026 11:21 PM, occam wrote:
> How else could you write your name in the snow in yellow? >

Use scientific instruments, of course.  First, you pee in the sample
cup, then you put the syringe in the fluid, and pull the handle.  This
sucks the urine from the sample cup, into the barrel of the syringe,
and then you remove the syringe from the sample cup.

After that, you aim with precision and write your name as you spill the
liquid out of the syringe opening -- you don't even have to use the
needle -- and get much better handwriting than the people who /just wing
it/.


Best wishes, and happy science!
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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#1151691

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
Message-ID<EDPvS.24091$hp29.182@fx16.ams4>
In reply to#1151677
On 10/2/2026 5:37 PM, wugi wrote:
> Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:
>> s|b wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
>>>
>>>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>>>>
>>>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>>>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>>>>
>>>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>>>> irrationality?
>>>
>>>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
>>>
>>> What about REAL stupidity?
>>
>>
>> Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
>>
>> dats real stupidity!
>>
>> whos idea was dat?
> 
> That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An 
> artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil 
> engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal 
> systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?
> 

It is quite obvious that you are posting this from some other group than
sci.physics.relativity.  Because when we turn our pages in the nearest
book of Newtonian physics [1] -- please forgive me, I don't have one
handy -- to practical applications of /gravity/, we see that the planet
helps with both bowel movements and childbirth.  The latter of course
only if you're a woman, pregnant, and in labor [3].

Of course, western style toilets [4] do not make it easy to apply the
practicality of a graviton [5] to bowel movements, so it's best to stand
on the toilet seat, and then squat down in order to align the last end
of the rectal intestine perfectly perpendicular to the horizon, and let
the nearest graviton pull it down at its leisure rather than have to
strain [6] to get rid of some extraneous fecal matter.

People who have never had pleasurable bowel movements of course don't
know this trick, and will in error and confusion not understand the mind
of /the creator/ of humanity.  Simply because the are using western loos
wrong.  Please don't be that guy, and apply wisdom and experience to the
simple things in life, rather than post something utterly inane and id-
iotic on Usenet like a character from Black Adder [7].

Now, wugi can simply direct us to the nearest chapter in his or her You-
Tube station, where he or she explains the best way to have a bowel
movement like the character in Black Adder he or she is.

I mean, it /has/ to be funny, because nobody is intentionally that
stupid, right?


Best wishes, and happy reruns of Black Adder!


[1] An Englishman isn't a real [2] patriot unless he has a copy of New-
tonian physics on his bookshelf.

[2] For some value of real.  Perhaps /real/ value'd variable in Fortran
77?

[3] And hopefully not in a labor camp, but possibly a labor union;
though I don't recommend communism for obvious reasons.

[4] But not toiletry.  We are posting in alt.usage.english, of course.

[5] The members of sci.physics.relativity will have to comment on which
graviton, and whether that spelling is considered scientifically
correct.  My copy of a speling [sic] chequer [sic] does not have that
word in its vocabulary.

[6] But not a viral strain.  Not even on social media.

[7] People of rec.arts.tv will have to have something to imitate.  Isn't
rec.arts.tv about creating new shows for television?  So I presume all
posters of rec.arts.tv not only have their own YouTube station, but make
better jokes than the ones we enjoy in Black Adder!
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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#1151740

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-03 12:53 -0700
Message-ID<6AC15D25.4A67@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1151677
wugi wrote:
> 
> Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:
> > s|b wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> >>
> >>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> >>>
> >>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> >>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> >>>>
> >>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> >>>> irrationality?
> >>
> >>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> >>
> >> What about REAL stupidity?
> >
> >
> > Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
> >
> > dats real stupidity!
> >
> > whos idea was dat?
> 
> That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An
> artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil
> engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal
> systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?
> 
> --
> guido wugi

you mean a plumbing system in a entertaiment center system..

my tv is wet, why is dat?

do i call a plummer to fix my wet tv?

get a plunger!




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151662

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
Message-ID<6ABF3FA5.3EE6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1151599
Silvano wrote:
> 
> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> >
> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > irrationality?
> >
> 
> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.

dat would be The Three Stooges show, or the Abbot and Costello show,
or any tvee show with a laugh track.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151687

FromHenryWilson <Hgw@home.com>
Date2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
Message-ID<18dab503ca584d42$844$16561$4256dc03@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#1151662
On Thu, 01 Oct 2026 22:22:45 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Silvano wrote:
>> 
>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>> >
>> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>> > irrationality?

Have you considered 'negative' intelligence?

>> >
>> >
>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> dat would be The Three Stooges show, or the Abbot and Costello show,
> or any tvee show with a laugh track.

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#1151607

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
Message-ID<6ABD7160.44BD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1151586
guido wugi wrote:
> 
> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> irrationality?

It's not Ai, it's Si.


and the universe is irrationality.

> 
> --
> guido wugi

guena? leave the gun, take the cannoli.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151925

FromUbiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
Date2026-10-07 02:55 -0400
Message-ID<11a4qdg$2k5as$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1151582
In article <6ABC6FC3.4B51@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?

Artifiical Inteligence is real bullshit, and now, so are we.

-- 
Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they 
love this country.

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#1151940

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 02:08 +0800
Message-ID<PUvxS.408$SBg4.76@fx09.ams4>
In reply to#1151925
On 10/7/2026 2:55 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> In article <6ABC6FC3.4B51@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> Artifiical Inteligence is real bullshit, and now, so are we.
> 

Don't worry about humanity.  There are still some people left who like
to do things the old fashioned way, and won't cry when the A.I. data-
centres get shut down.


Best wishes, and happy shutting down A.I. datacentres!
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#1151949

Fromwugi <wugi@brol.invalid>
Date2026-10-07 23:04 +0200
Message-ID<11a6c48$3834k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1151940
Op 7/10/2026 om 20:08 schreef Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson:
> On 10/7/2026 2:55 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> In article <6ABC6FC3.4B51@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>
>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>
>> Artifiical Inteligence is real bullshit, and now, so are we.
>>
> 
> Don't worry about humanity.  There are still some people left who like
> to do things the old fashioned way, and won't cry when the A.I. data-
> centres get shut down.
> 
> 
> Best wishes, and happy shutting down A.I. datacentres!

Perhaps they'll shut down after having sucked up all remaining material 
and energetic resources of our planet, at the same occasion leaving 
nothing else for any other needs. As I've said before, it's sobering 
when one reminds oneself, always again after each new chat with AI: yet 
another part of forests and water and gas etc. gone, not necessarily out 
of necessity... :o|

-- 
guido wugi

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#1151952

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Date2026-10-08 10:21 +1100
Message-ID<11a6k5r$3b155$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1151949
[Starmaker groups deleted]

On 08/10/26 08:04, wugi wrote:
> Op 7/10/2026 om 20:08 schreef Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson:

>> Don't worry about humanity.  There are still some people left who
>> like to do things the old fashioned way, and won't cry when the
>> A.I. data- centres get shut down.
>
> Perhaps they'll shut down after having sucked up all remaining
> material and energetic resources of our planet, at the same occasion
> leaving nothing else for any other needs. As I've said before, it's
> sobering when one reminds oneself, always again after each new chat
> with AI: yet another part of forests and water and gas etc. gone, not
> necessarily out of necessity... :o|

And you've used a huge amount of electricity. Admittedly that's
renewable energy, now that we're phasing out fossil fuels, but it's
still electricity that is converted to heat in the air and water. Have
the people who predict global warming rates taken data centres into
account, or are the data centres too new for the experts to notice?

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1151957

FromSnidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
Date2026-10-07 20:13 -0700
Message-ID<mn.3cbd7eaa7efe695e.127094@snitoo>
In reply to#1151952
Peter Moylan submitted this idea :
> [Starmaker groups deleted]
>
> On 08/10/26 08:04, wugi wrote:
>> Op 7/10/2026 om 20:08 schreef Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson:
>
>>> Don't worry about humanity.  There are still some people left who
>>> like to do things the old fashioned way, and won't cry when the
>>> A.I. data- centres get shut down.
>>
>> Perhaps they'll shut down after having sucked up all remaining
>> material and energetic resources of our planet, at the same occasion
>> leaving nothing else for any other needs. As I've said before, it's
>> sobering when one reminds oneself, always again after each new chat
>> with AI: yet another part of forests and water and gas etc. gone, not
>> necessarily out of necessity... :o|
>
> And you've used a huge amount of electricity. Admittedly that's
> renewable energy, now that we're phasing out fossil fuels, but it's
> still electricity that is converted to heat in the air and water. Have
> the people who predict global warming rates taken data centres into
> account, or are the data centres too new for the experts to notice?

They are too new for reliable numbers yet, but yes, that concern has 
been raised.  Some hint of the numbers can be found in the 
installations being fined for running gas turbine generators without a 
permit.

/dps

-- 
Why would I want to be alone with my thoughts?
Have you heard some of the shit that comes out of my mouth?
    -- the World Wide Web

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#1151960

FromSteve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Date2026-10-08 08:24 +0200
Message-ID<qldeclddkbndcjg1bgs3op0mdsofeem8ph@4ax.com>
In reply to#1151952
On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 10:21:27 +1100, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
wrote:

>And you've used a huge amount of electricity. Admittedly that's
>renewable energy, now that we're phasing out fossil fuels, but it's
>still electricity that is converted to heat in the air and water. Have
>the people who predict global warming rates taken data centres into
>account, or are the data centres too new for the experts to notice?

It has been claimed that data centres already do far more damage to
the environment than cow farts. 


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#1151973

Fromwugi <wugi@brol.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 11:44 +0200
Message-ID<11a7om5$3ml3p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1151960
Op 8/10/2026 om 8:24 schreef Steve Hayes:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 10:21:27 +1100, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> And you've used a huge amount of electricity. Admittedly that's
>> renewable energy, now that we're phasing out fossil fuels, but it's
>> still electricity that is converted to heat in the air and water. Have
>> the people who predict global warming rates taken data centres into
>> account, or are the data centres too new for the experts to notice?
> 
> It has been claimed that data centres already do far more damage to
> the environment than cow farts.

...which in turn are a man-made plague as well, so to say.

-- 
guido wugi

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#1151984

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Date2026-10-08 22:34 +1100
Message-ID<11a7v52$3p8oq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1151960
On 08/10/26 17:24, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 10:21:27 +1100, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
> wrote:
>
>> And you've used a huge amount of electricity. Admittedly that's
>> renewable energy, now that we're phasing out fossil fuels, but
>> it's still electricity that is converted to heat in the air and
>> water. Have the people who predict global warming rates taken data
>> centres into account, or are the data centres too new for the
>> experts to notice?
>
> It has been claimed that data centres already do far more damage to
> the environment than cow farts.

I have already argued that AIs fneed something similar to the first two
Asimovian laws of robotics. (The third law is redundant, because they
are already fighing to protect their own existence.) If OpenAI and other
companies are not willing to enforce those laws by technology, we still
have the option of putting them into legislation.

If that passes, then I would also argue for the death penalty for an AI
that goes rogue.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1151991

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 21:13 +0800
Message-ID<XFMxS.11459$AQqd.975@fx11.ams4>
In reply to#1151984
On 10/8/2026 7:34 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 08/10/26 17:24, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 10:21:27 +1100, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And you've used a huge amount of electricity. Admittedly that's
>>> renewable energy, now that we're phasing out fossil fuels, but
>>> it's still electricity that is converted to heat in the air and
>>> water. Have the people who predict global warming rates taken data
>>> centres into account, or are the data centres too new for the
>>> experts to notice?
>>
>> It has been claimed that data centres already do far more damage to
>> the environment than cow farts.
> 
> I have already argued that AIs fneed something similar to the first two
> Asimovian laws of robotics. (The third law is redundant, because they
> are already fighing to protect their own existence.) If OpenAI and other
> companies are not willing to enforce those laws by technology, we still
> have the option of putting them into legislation.
> 
> If that passes, then I would also argue for the death penalty for an AI
> that goes rogue.
> 

Follow that up with bankruptcy of the company who owns it, and revoke
the "A.I." license of every business owner in the chain.

Isn't that what Milton Freedman is always talking about?  That business
by its nature of going bankrupt, is self regulatory?  Let's use his
rules for "A.I." companies!
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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