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Sleepless in Brussels

Started byTony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>
First post2026-07-06 17:27 -0400
Last post2026-07-10 10:52 +0200
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  Sleepless in Brussels Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 17:27 -0400
    Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 01:01 +0100
      Re: Sleepless in Brussels Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 23:53 -0400
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-07 06:51 +0200
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 16:20 +1000
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-07 06:58 +0000
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 20:24 +0100
            Re: Sleepless in Brussels nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 23:33 +0200
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:19 +0200
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 20:21 +0100
    Re: Sleepless in Brussels Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-07 06:50 +0100
      Re: Sleepless in Brussels Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:21 +0200
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 20:11 +1000
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 12:20 +0200
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-07 12:28 +0000
    Re: Sleepless in Brussels nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 11:17 +0200
      Re: Sleepless in Brussels "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-07-07 10:04 +0000
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 13:20 +0200
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-07-07 12:48 +0000
            Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 20:31 +0100
              Re: Sleepless in Brussels richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-07 19:34 +0000
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-07 14:58 +0200
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-07-07 15:04 +0000
            Re: Sleepless in Brussels Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 18:52 +0200
              Re: Sleepless in Brussels athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-08 06:44 +0000
              Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-08 17:12 +1000
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-08 12:32 +0200
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-08 12:39 +0200
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-08 21:33 +1000
                    Re: Sleepless in Brussels "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-07-08 13:11 +0000
      Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 20:13 +1000
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-07 15:01 +0200
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-07 15:36 +0200
            Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 20:42 +0100
      Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 20:28 +0100
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 23:33 +0200
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-08 09:54 +1000
            Re: Sleepless in Brussels Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-07-08 15:15 +0530
              Re: Sleepless in Brussels Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-09 05:14 +0200
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-07-09 14:47 +0530
    Re: Sleepless in Brussels "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-07 14:36 +0200
      Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 20:46 +0100
        Re: Sleepless in Brussels Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 16:25 -0400
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 22:39 +0100
          Re: Sleepless in Brussels "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-08 17:02 +0200
            Re: Sleepless in Brussels Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 15:37 -0400
              Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-09 09:53 +1000
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 21:12 -0400
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-09 03:27 +0000
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-09 21:00 +0100
                    Re: Sleepless in Brussels "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-10 17:32 +0100
                      Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-10 21:18 +0100
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-08 23:40 -0400
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-09 04:05 +0000
                    Re: Sleepless in Brussels wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-09 04:19 +0000
                    Re: Sleepless in Brussels Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-09 14:34 +1000
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-09 21:06 +0100
                    Re: Sleepless in Brussels Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 16:19 -0400
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-09 11:58 +0200
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-09 13:52 +0000
                    Re: Sleepless in Brussels nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-09 23:40 +0200
                      Re: Sleepless in Brussels athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-10 07:17 +0000
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-09 21:13 +0100
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-09 10:21 +0000
              Re: Sleepless in Brussels athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-09 07:56 +0000
              Re: Sleepless in Brussels "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-09 11:54 +0200
                Re: Sleepless in Brussels Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-09 21:16 +0100
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-09 21:49 +0000
                    Re: Sleepless in Brussels nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 13:14 +0200
                  Re: Sleepless in Brussels "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-10 10:52 +0200

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#1146597

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2026-07-09 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<1ry05xw.nhvhg413sv33bN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#1146570
<athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote:

> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> posted:
> 
> > On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:53:51 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > 
> > > It looks as if most of the world is delighted that Trump's attempt to
> > > cheat failed. Heads will probably roll in FIFA for the crime of giving
> > > in to political interference.
> > 
> > Apparently, FIFA will investigate itself. No heads rolling there.
> > 
> > > Everyone wanted Belgium to win that match,
> > > and they did.
> > 8< snip >8
> > 
> > 1 - 4 !
> > 
> > I'm not a real football fan, but I've been told Spain will be a
> > challenge. I'm afraid if I watch the match I will jinx it. (-:
> > 
> I never watch football, but I like to know when the Olympique de Marseille
> wins, or France wins, or Paris St Germain loses.

You live in the centre.
Don't you hear every goal through your windows when OM plays?
(even merely with a match on TV)

Jan 

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#1146617

Fromathel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2026-07-10 07:17 +0000
Message-ID<1783667844-12588@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#1146597
nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) posted:

> <athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> posted:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:53:51 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It looks as if most of the world is delighted that Trump's attempt to
> > > > cheat failed. Heads will probably roll in FIFA for the crime of giving
> > > > in to political interference.
> > > 
> > > Apparently, FIFA will investigate itself. No heads rolling there.
> > > 
> > > > Everyone wanted Belgium to win that match,
> > > > and they did.
> > > 8< snip >8
> > > 
> > > 1 - 4 !
> > > 
> > > I'm not a real football fan, but I've been told Spain will be a
> > > challenge. I'm afraid if I watch the match I will jinx it. (-:
> > > 
> > I never watch football, but I like to know when the Olympique de Marseille
> > wins, or France wins, or Paris St Germain loses.
> 
> You live in the centre.
> Don't you hear every goal through your windows when OM plays?

Yes! We heard the two goals yesterday night in the France-Morocco game.


> (even merely with a match on TV)
> 
> Jan 


-- 
athel

Living in Marseilles for 39 years; mainly in England before that,
with long periods in Singapore, California, Chile and Canada 

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#1146591

FromSam Plusnet <not@home.com>
Date2026-07-09 21:13 +0100
Message-ID<LhT3S.304$nJLe.68@fx11.ams1>
In reply to#1146560
On 09/07/2026 10:58, s|b wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:53:51 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
>> It looks as if most of the world is delighted that Trump's attempt to
>> cheat failed. Heads will probably roll in FIFA for the crime of giving
>> in to political interference.
> 
> Apparently, FIFA will investigate itself. No heads rolling there.

It isn't as though rampant corruption in FIFA wasn't plainly evident 
before now.
Football is the mechanism, money is the purpose.

-- 
Sam Plusnet

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#1146561

Fromrichard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin)
Date2026-07-09 10:21 +0000
Message-ID<112nso6$12kua$1@artemis.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#1146538
In article <112mnui$q16$1@dont-email.me>,
Peter Moylan  <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:

>Heads will probably roll in FIFA for the crime of giving in to
>political interference.

Why would anyone in FIFA consider that a crime?  Is it the wrong sort
of corruption?

-- Richard

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#1146553

Fromathel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2026-07-09 07:56 +0000
Message-ID<1783583766-12588@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#1146531
Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> posted:

> On Wed, 08 Jul 2026 17:02:04 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 16:25:21 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 20:46:15 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >I wonder what the punishment will be for all those who fail to bring 
> >> >Trump a win?>
> >> >> Once a cheat, always a cheat.
> >
> >> But Trump will say we won, just as he said he won the election in
> >> 2020. 
> >
> >By a landslide!!!
> 
> "Everyone says I was right to get the red card nullified.  500%, even
> 800%, of the people who commented on this agreed with me!:  Donald J,
> Trump, your favorite President." 
> 
You forgot "Thank you for your attention to this matter".

-- 
athel

Living in Marseilles for 39 years; mainly in England before that,
with long periods in Singapore, California, Chile and Canada 

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#1146559

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-09 11:54 +0200
Message-ID<nb99e5F2j14U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146531
On Wed, 08 Jul 2026 15:37:43 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote:

> "Everyone says I was right to get the red card nullified.  500%, even
> 800%, of the people who commented on this agreed with me!:  Donald J,
> Trump, your favorite President." 

I can hear him saying it, doing the accordion with his tiny, bruised
hands.

-- 
s|b

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#1146592

FromSam Plusnet <not@home.com>
Date2026-07-09 21:16 +0100
Message-ID<fkT3S.305$nJLe.166@fx11.ams1>
In reply to#1146559
On 09/07/2026 10:54, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jul 2026 15:37:43 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote:
> 
>> "Everyone says I was right to get the red card nullified.  500%, even
>> 800%, of the people who commented on this agreed with me!:  Donald J,
>> Trump, your favorite President."
> 
> I can hear him saying it, doing the accordion with his tiny, bruised
> hands.
> 
The Belgian players who did the "Trump dance" on the pitch still have to 
get out of the country past Trump's stormtroopers.

-- 
Sam Plusnet

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#1146600

Fromwollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman)
Date2026-07-09 21:49 +0000
Message-ID<112p512$1ipf$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu>
In reply to#1146592
In article <fkT3S.305$nJLe.166@fx11.ams1>, Sam Plusnet  <not@home.com> wrote:
>The Belgian players who did the "Trump dance" on the pitch still have to 
>get out of the country past Trump's stormtroopers.

There are no exit formalities at US borders, unlike in Europe.

-GAWollman

-- 
Garrett A. Wollman    | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can,
wollman@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future.  This is
Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together."
my employers.         | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)

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#1146629

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2026-07-10 13:14 +0200
Message-ID<1ry11yn.zjamtj1owk71xN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#1146600
Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <fkT3S.305$nJLe.166@fx11.ams1>, Sam Plusnet  <not@home.com> wrote:
> >The Belgian players who did the "Trump dance" on the pitch still have to
> >get out of the country past Trump's stormtroopers.
> 
> There are no exit formalities at US borders, unlike in Europe.

Does Trump care about formalities?
Arrest the bastards first for falsely winning,
then expel the criminals!

Jan

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#1146620

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-10 10:52 +0200
Message-ID<nbbq68Fen3cU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146592
On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 21:16:10 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:

> The Belgian players who did the "Trump dance" on the pitch still have to 
> get out of the country past Trump's stormtroopers.

I'm amazed we didn't get hit with extra tariffs. My guess is that IF the
Orange one has seen it, he took it as a compliment.

-- 
s|b

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