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| Started by | Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-07-01 11:16 +0100 |
| Last post | 2026-07-05 06:34 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 279 — 24 participants |
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[OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-01 11:16 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-01 12:30 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-01 21:26 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-01 12:49 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-01 16:43 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-01 17:43 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 06:11 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-02 11:51 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 22:57 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 16:49 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 09:19 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:13 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-01 19:31 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-01 22:52 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-01 21:08 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-01 23:13 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-02 08:16 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-02 06:35 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 09:09 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 12:49 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-07-02 14:33 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-02 14:41 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-07-02 15:58 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-03 09:26 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 17:36 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 10:57 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-06 04:37 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 09:43 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-03 11:15 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-07-06 10:54 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-06 11:00 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-06 12:44 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-06 14:49 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 11:30 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 10:56 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-07 07:21 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-07-08 16:39 +1200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:30 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:27 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 16:12 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 17:33 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 19:21 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 23:26 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:38 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-04 12:52 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 08:26 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-06 20:22 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:33 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-02 05:50 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 14:33 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-02 08:23 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 12:56 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 23:09 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-02 15:06 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 09:57 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:48 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 09:58 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-02 10:22 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-02 12:04 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:35 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 09:39 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-01 16:46 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 13:51 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 09:58 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-03 14:28 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 17:47 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 17:48 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 17:50 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-01 13:55 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-01 17:06 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-01 17:15 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-01 19:20 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 06:11 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-01 19:19 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-01 23:10 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 09:30 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 17:50 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:00 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:43 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 12:34 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-02 20:52 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 22:17 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:33 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 16:27 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 17:19 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 10:07 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 19:16 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-02 18:37 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 22:24 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-03 09:41 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:48 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-03 11:08 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-03 11:45 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 15:58 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 15:58 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-03 16:06 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-04 19:00 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-05 05:45 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 06:56 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 18:05 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 11:30 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-05 20:32 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 20:58 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 23:26 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 13:52 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 08:57 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 11:07 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:36 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 19:37 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 12:13 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 11:57 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 09:05 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 22:34 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 18:06 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-06 15:36 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 12:20 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-06 16:59 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 13:17 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 11:15 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-08 07:05 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-06 18:48 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:42 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 18:08 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 13:34 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 19:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 16:31 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 23:24 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 19:11 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 11:17 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-07 06:38 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 08:59 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-07 16:43 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 16:27 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-08 06:23 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-08 06:43 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-08 08:09 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-07-08 10:52 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-08 20:41 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-09 06:11 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-09 06:15 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-09 10:10 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-09 20:33 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 13:14 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-10 16:24 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-10 20:50 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 23:32 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-11 12:33 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-11 11:53 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-11 20:46 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-11 15:40 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-12 09:31 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-12 02:08 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-11 18:32 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-11 14:52 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-11 19:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-12 04:34 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-09 10:06 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-09 12:41 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-09 14:41 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-09 23:40 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 06:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 06:16 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 08:31 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 08:11 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 08:13 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 09:43 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 10:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 11:15 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-10 20:22 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 13:29 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 14:07 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 15:21 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 15:08 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-11 07:58 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-11 19:47 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 16:54 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-12 01:53 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 19:50 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 23:31 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-11 09:51 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 19:11 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-10 18:12 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 10:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 15:03 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 13:14 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 13:59 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 15:22 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 14:51 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 22:35 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-11 08:48 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-11 12:42 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 13:15 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 12:41 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-11 07:00 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 23:34 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-08 07:00 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-08 09:30 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-08 20:16 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 09:02 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 12:36 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-07 16:37 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-06 19:22 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 22:34 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-06 22:16 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 00:50 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-07 01:25 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-07 08:10 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-07 09:07 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-07 10:20 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 13:20 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-07 13:49 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:52 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 09:05 -0400
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-07 20:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:50 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 19:47 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 11:38 -0700
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-06 15:38 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-06 15:30 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 17:59 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 11:01 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:45 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 12:27 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 20:59 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 15:27 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 15:47 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 06:32 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 07:54 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 07:54 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 09:59 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 13:52 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 12:21 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-06 08:53 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 09:58 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 09:24 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 17:55 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 16:29 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 10:24 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-02 05:56 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-03 08:51 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:44 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 18:07 +1000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-03 15:12 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-03 14:29 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:08 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-03 20:57 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-03 19:10 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-03 20:50 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-05 19:01 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-05 19:05 +0000
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-07 19:54 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 06:24 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 06:27 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-07-05 20:27 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-04 06:50 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:54 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 14:33 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 16:54 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 17:45 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:21 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:20 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-05 08:33 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-01 19:13 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-02 05:45 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 11:52 +0800
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:15 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:49 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:22 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:38 +0100
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-04 21:37 +0200
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 13:13 +0800
Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-05 06:34 +0100
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| From | Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 16:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1125rk6$2l3fo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146020 |
Den 02.07.2026 kl. 12.49 skrev wugi: >> I've made this page which explains the origin of our slightly weird >> numbers: >> >> https://tools.lundhansen.dk/Danish_numbers.html > > Pas nu valt mijn frank (just now the little coin has dropped:-). > I hadn't really thought about our "anderhalf" for 1 1/2: it's a twin of > your "halvanden". Only that our "ander" just means other, not second. "Anden" menas both "other" and "second" where both meanings are current, but in the number context it's "second". Check if "ander" has a history of meaning "second". -- Bertel, Kolt, Danmark
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| From | wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 17:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <11260c1$2mqdg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146040 |
Op 2/07/2026 om 16:12 schreef Bertel Lund Hansen: > Den 02.07.2026 kl. 12.49 skrev wugi: > >>> I've made this page which explains the origin of our slightly weird >>> numbers: >>> >>> https://tools.lundhansen.dk/Danish_numbers.html >> >> Pas nu valt mijn frank (just now the little coin has dropped:-). >> I hadn't really thought about our "anderhalf" for 1 1/2: it's a twin >> of your "halvanden". Only that our "ander" just means other, not second. > > "Anden" menas both "other" and "second" where both meanings are current, > but in the number context it's "second". Check if "ander" has a history > of meaning "second". Originally "an-þara-" (a comparative) meant "the other of two". In contrast with "al-", "another of many": E. "else" °, L. "alius, alter", Gr. "allos"... In West-Germanic only the meaning "ander/other" was maintained. ° In Dutch, "elsewhere" is a comparative "elders" < "el-re-s". The -t- in the 'dual' comparatives OG "an-þara-", L. "al-ter"... (instead of -er) look to me like 'dualis' particles. https://etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/ander https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=other -- guido wugi
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| From | Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 19:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <11266mj$2p2u6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146050 |
Den 02.07.2026 kl. 17.33 skrev wugi: >>>> I've made this page which explains the origin of our slightly weird >>>> numbers: >>>> >>>> https://tools.lundhansen.dk/Danish_numbers.html >>> >>> Pas nu valt mijn frank (just now the little coin has dropped:-). >>> I hadn't really thought about our "anderhalf" for 1 1/2: it's a twin >>> of your "halvanden". Only that our "ander" just means other, not second. >> >> "Anden" menas both "other" and "second" where both meanings are >> current, but in the number context it's "second". Check if "ander" has >> a history of meaning "second". > > Originally "an-þara-" (a comparative) meant "the other of two". The concept of "two" is in the word "ander", and "anderhalf" makes no sense unless the explanation is identical to what I explain about "halvanden". -- Bertel, Kolt, Danmark
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| From | wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 23:26 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1126l21$2ugi3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146057 |
Op 2/07/2026 om 19:21 schreef Bertel Lund Hansen: > Den 02.07.2026 kl. 17.33 skrev wugi: > >>>>> I've made this page which explains the origin of our slightly weird >>>>> numbers: >>>>> >>>>> https://tools.lundhansen.dk/Danish_numbers.html >>>> >>>> Pas nu valt mijn frank (just now the little coin has dropped:-). >>>> I hadn't really thought about our "anderhalf" for 1 1/2: it's a twin >>>> of your "halvanden". Only that our "ander" just means other, not >>>> second. >>> >>> "Anden" menas both "other" and "second" where both meanings are >>> current, but in the number context it's "second". Check if "ander" >>> has a history of meaning "second". >> >> Originally "an-þara-" (a comparative) meant "the other of two". > > The concept of "two" is in the word "ander", and "anderhalf" makes no > sense unless the explanation is identical to what I explain about > "halvanden". As I (more or less) quoted there was a double concept "other-of-two". The West-Germanic languages stuck with the "other" half (°), Skandinavian with the "2-th, 2-nd" half. ;-) (°) Apart from some "petrified expressions" as we call them, like eenmaal, andermaal (one time, second time); anderhalf (one and a half), usually een-en-[een]-half in Flemish. -- guido wugi
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-07-04 11:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1rxpzil.xlszuhbe7uvuN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #1146020 |
wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote: > Op 2/07/2026 om 9:09 schreef Bertel Lund Hansen: > > Den 02.07.2026 kl. 08.35 skrev athel.cb@gmail.com: > > > >> Our usual source of information about all things Danish has been very > >> silent > >> in his discussion. I seem to recall that Danish is more extreme than > >> French > >> in counting by twenties. > > > > I've made this page which explains the origin of our slightly weird > > numbers: > > > > https://tools.lundhansen.dk/Danish_numbers.html > > Pas nu valt mijn frank (just now the little coin has dropped:-). That would be a 'kwartje' in Dutch. (so a 25 cent coin) (from coin machines) Those machines did hang sometimes, and you might have to wait for the 'kwartje' to fall. Did you ever have slot machines that sold something for just one Belgian Frank? [1] > I hadn't really thought about our "anderhalf" for 1 1/2: it's a twin of > your "halvanden". Only that our "ander" just means other, not second. It dates back to the existence of half cent coins. (and half-stuiver ones) 'Anderhalve cent' was used mockingly for very unequal couples. Also for bicycles, compare English 'penny-farthing', aka high wheeler, Jan [1] Just wondering, did you ever have Half-Frank coins, rather than French-inspired 50 centime ones?
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| From | wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-04 12:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <112aokj$2bhe$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146177 |
Op 4/07/2026 om 11:38 schreef J. J. Lodder: > wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote: > >> Op 2/07/2026 om 9:09 schreef Bertel Lund Hansen: >>> Den 02.07.2026 kl. 08.35 skrev athel.cb@gmail.com: >>> >>>> Our usual source of information about all things Danish has been very >>>> silent >>>> in his discussion. I seem to recall that Danish is more extreme than >>>> French >>>> in counting by twenties. >>> >>> I've made this page which explains the origin of our slightly weird >>> numbers: >>> >>> https://tools.lundhansen.dk/Danish_numbers.html >> >> Pas nu valt mijn frank (just now the little coin has dropped:-). > > That would be a 'kwartje' in Dutch. (so a 25 cent coin) > (from coin machines) Yes in realizing, gaining insight, the Dutch have always been a little bit more expensive ;o) > Those machines did hang sometimes, and you might have to wait for the > 'kwartje' to fall. > Did you ever have slot machines that sold something > for just one Belgian Frank? [1] Possibly. Where 1-frank coins (and less) were accepted for input, of course. >> I hadn't really thought about our "anderhalf" for 1 1/2: it's a twin of >> your "halvanden". Only that our "ander" just means other, not second. > > It dates back to the existence of half cent coins. > (and half-stuiver ones) > 'Anderhalve cent' was used mockingly for very unequal couples. > Also for bicycles, compare English 'penny-farthing', > aka high wheeler, > > Jan > > [1] Just wondering, did you ever have Half-Frank coins, > rather than French-inspired 50 centime ones? Even 1 centiem coins. I for myself remember 25 centiem coins that were perforated, but there have been others: https://www.fotoboekdeedee.be/munten/belgischefrank/indexbelgischemunten.html ; https://collector-items.com/belgie -- guido wugi
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| From | Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 08:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nami4mF3upeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1145983 |
Le 01/07/2026 à 21:52, wugi a écrit : > Op 1/07/2026 om 19:31 schreef s|b: >> >> I've never heard of 'octante'. In Flemish schools we are taught >> 'quartre-vingt'. I remember a teacher telling us about 'nonante' and >> forbidding us to use it. I believe they still use it in Wallonia. > > Septante, quatre-vingt, nonante are standard in Belgian French. > > Go try to write down dictated numbers containing soixante-dix-huit and > quatre-vingt-dix-neuf. I love to confuse the French with septante-dix- > six and nonante-dix-onze. Yes. Given the four-twenties-nineteen nonsense, it's curious that the French choose to spell their telephone numbers out in pairs, instead of digit-by-digit as we do (Whitehall one-two-one-two, oh-one-two-one five-double-one…). What did Horace say, Winnie? « Quatre-vingt-dix-neuf », 99, or « Quatre-vingts dix-neuf », 80 19? It's just asking for trouble.
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| From | occam <occam@nowhere.nix> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 20:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb2a44Fu93tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1146010 |
On 02/07/2026 09:26, Hibou wrote: > (Whitehall one-two-one-two, oh-one-two-one five-double-one…) Where did you get that phone number, from a B&W Ealing comedy film?
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 13:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nan0k1F6fpmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1145983 |
On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 22:52:08 +0200, wugi wrote: > Septante, quatre-vingt, nonante are standard in Belgian French. In Wallonia (and Brussels) perhaps. In Flanders we are taught soixante-dix, quatre-vingt and quatre-vingt-dix. > Go try to write down dictated numbers containing soixante-dix-huit and > quatre-vingt-dix-neuf. I love to confuse the French with > septante-dix-six and nonante-dix-onze. :-) -- s|b
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 05:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <psnb4l5p7vr6er8n1rbvs62gk64mbno3i4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1145972 |
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:43:21 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote: >On 2026-07-01, athel.cb gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> posted: >> >>> On 01/07/26 20:30, occam wrote: >>> >>> > (I dismiss it as the signage of a peoples who think 'four twenty & >>> > ten nine" is a rational way of saying '99'. ) >>> >>> I once worked for three months in Paris. I occupied the desk of someone >>> who had moved to another section, so had to field lots of phone calls >>> for him. Unfortunately, the phone number had several eights and nines in it. >> >> Ha. You'd love my telephone number, which isn't zero four, four twenties twelve, >> sixty ten eight, zero nine, four twenties six, but resembles that. >>> >>> My French is heavily influenced by Belgian French, so I'm comfortable >>> with words like "nonante". >> >> Do you also have "septante" in Belgian French? I never remember. I think >> "octante" and "huitante" only survive in Switzerland. > >I thought "huitante" was Belgian & "octante" was Swiss, but Wikipedia >says "huitante" is Swiss & "octante" used to be Belgian (in some >parts). A bit like "shiyangalolunye" which is Zulu for 'nine" -- "ten minus one". -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 14:33 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1124pnk$2be2e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1145998 |
On 02/07/26 13:50, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:43:21 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> > wrote: >> I thought "huitante" was Belgian & "octante" was Swiss, but Wikipedia >> says "huitante" is Swiss & "octante" used to be Belgian (in some >> parts). > > A bit like "shiyangalolunye" which is Zulu for 'nine" -- "ten minus > one". So the same as Roman IX. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | occam <occam@nowhere.nix> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 08:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <namefjF3hnfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1146000 |
On 02/07/2026 06:33, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 02/07/26 13:50, Steve Hayes wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:43:21 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> >> wrote: > >>> I thought "huitante" was Belgian & "octante" was Swiss, but Wikipedia >>> says "huitante" is Swiss & "octante" used to be Belgian (in some >>> parts). >> >> A bit like "shiyangalolunye" which is Zulu for 'nine" -- "ten minus >> one". > > So the same as Roman IX. > This reminds me of cartoon caption with two Centurions (presumably in Britain). [Centurion] "No, no, he was not giving you the finger. He was just high-fiving you" .
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1rxm8x4.1cfoqhy1noa084N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #1146000 |
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote: > On 02/07/26 13:50, Steve Hayes wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:43:21 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> > > wrote: > > >> I thought "huitante" was Belgian & "octante" was Swiss, but Wikipedia > >> says "huitante" is Swiss & "octante" used to be Belgian (in some > >> parts). > > > > A bit like "shiyangalolunye" which is Zulu for 'nine" -- "ten minus > > one". > > So the same as Roman IX. But the Romans didn't say that. It is merely notation, (derived from the abacus) Jan
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| From | wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 12:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1125g4r$2heco$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146000 |
Op 2/07/2026 om 6:33 schreef Peter Moylan: > On 02/07/26 13:50, Steve Hayes wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:43:21 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> >> wrote: > >>> I thought "huitante" was Belgian & "octante" was Swiss, but Wikipedia >>> says "huitante" is Swiss & "octante" used to be Belgian (in some >>> parts). >> >> A bit like "shiyangalolunye" which is Zulu for 'nine" -- "ten minus >> one". > > So the same as Roman IX. We're lucky to watch a bit of the great Maigret series with Bruno Cremer on television. The titles put the date of 1992 as MIXCLXXXXII. Is IXC acceptable for 900? Looks rather as 91 to me. Why not MCMXCII as you'd expect? -- guido wugi
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 23:09 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1125nul$2k0tv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146021 |
On 02/07/26 20:56, wugi wrote: > > We're lucky to watch a bit of the great Maigret series with Bruno > Cremer on television. The titles put the date of 1992 as > MIXCLXXXXII. Is IXC acceptable for 900? Looks rather as 91 to me. Why > not MCMXCII as you'd expect? Somebody doesn't understand Roman numerals. IXC is simply illegal. As I understand it, the "subtractive" notation only allows a number to precede a larger number only only if that smaller number is one level down in the hierarchy. And the rule is not recursive, so going two steps down as in IXC is not allowed. If IXC has any meaning at all, it is IX less than C, so 91, but more likely I less than XC, i.e. 89. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 15:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <9r7ihmx3ll.ln2@news.ducksburg.com> |
| In reply to | #1146035 |
On 2026-07-02, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 02/07/26 20:56, wugi wrote:
>>
>> We're lucky to watch a bit of the great Maigret series with Bruno
>> Cremer on television. The titles put the date of 1992 as
>> MIXCLXXXXII. Is IXC acceptable for 900? Looks rather as 91 to me. Why
>> not MCMXCII as you'd expect?
>
> Somebody doesn't understand Roman numerals. IXC is simply illegal. As I
> understand it, the "subtractive" notation only allows a number to
> precede a larger number only only if that smaller number is one level
> down in the hierarchy. And the rule is not recursive, so going two steps
> down as in IXC is not allowed.
>
> If IXC has any meaning at all, it is IX less than C, so 91, but more
> likely I less than XC, i.e. 89.
Even the Romans weren't consistent.
Especially on tombstones and other funerary inscriptions, 5 and 50
have been occasionally written IIIII and XXXXX instead of V and L,
and there are instances such as IIIIII and XXXXXX rather than VI or
LX.
...
There are numerous historical examples of IIX being used for 8; for
example, XIIX was used by officers of the XVIII Roman Legion to
write their number. The notation appears prominently on the
cenotaph of their senior centurion Marcus Caelius (c. 45 BC – 9
AD). On the publicly displayed official Roman calendars known as
Fasti, XIIX is used for the 18 days to the next Kalends, and XXIIX
for the 28 days in February. The latter can be seen on the sole
extant pre-Julian calendar, the Fasti Antiates Maiores. There are
historical examples of other subtractive forms: IIIXX for 17, IIXX
for 18, IIIC for 97, IIC for 98, and IC for 99.
...
The Colosseum was constructed in Rome in CE 72–80, and while the
original perimeter wall has largely disappeared, the numbered
entrances from XXIII (23) to LIIII (54) survive, to demonstrate
that in Imperial times Roman numerals had already assumed their
classical form: as largely standardised in current use. The most
obvious anomaly (a common one that persisted for centuries) is the
inconsistent use of subtractive notation - while XL is used for 40,
IV is avoided in favour of IIII: in fact, gate 44 is labelled
XLIIII.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals>
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-07-03 09:57 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1126tst$31b1h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1146035 |
On 02/07/26 23:09, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 02/07/26 20:56, wugi wrote: >> >> We're lucky to watch a bit of the great Maigret series with Bruno >> Cremer on television. The titles put the date of 1992 as >> MIXCLXXXXII. Is IXC acceptable for 900? Looks rather as 91 to me. Why >> not MCMXCII as you'd expect? > > Somebody doesn't understand Roman numerals. IXC is simply illegal. As I > understand it, the "subtractive" notation only allows a number to > precede a larger number only only if that smaller number is one level > down in the hierarchy. And the rule is not recursive, so going two steps > down as in IXC is not allowed. > > If IXC has any meaning at all, it is IX less than C, so 91, but more > likely I less than XC, i.e. 89. Addendum: I doubt that the Romans ever asked themselves whether a-b-c meand (a-b)-c or a-(b-c). That sort of question was reserved for a later era. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-07-03 11:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1rxo58j.1jmcwctapnrroN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #1146081 |
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote: > On 02/07/26 23:09, Peter Moylan wrote: > > On 02/07/26 20:56, wugi wrote: > >> > >> We're lucky to watch a bit of the great Maigret series with Bruno > >> Cremer on television. The titles put the date of 1992 as > >> MIXCLXXXXII. Is IXC acceptable for 900? Looks rather as 91 to me. Why > >> not MCMXCII as you'd expect? > > > > Somebody doesn't understand Roman numerals. IXC is simply illegal. As I > > understand it, the "subtractive" notation only allows a number to > > precede a larger number only only if that smaller number is one level > > down in the hierarchy. And the rule is not recursive, so going two steps > > down as in IXC is not allowed. > > > > If IXC has any meaning at all, it is IX less than C, so 91, but more > > likely I less than XC, i.e. 89. > > Addendum: I doubt that the Romans ever asked themselves whether a-b-c > meand (a-b)-c or a-(b-c). That sort of question was reserved for a later > era. Why ask? They just knew those things, because that is what they had been taught, Jan
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2026-07-03 09:58 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1rxmguq.1a2ft0h1gv5ngiN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #1146021 |
wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote: > Op 2/07/2026 om 6:33 schreef Peter Moylan: > > On 02/07/26 13:50, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 16:43:21 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> > >> wrote: > > > >>> I thought "huitante" was Belgian & "octante" was Swiss, but Wikipedia > >>> says "huitante" is Swiss & "octante" used to be Belgian (in some > >>> parts). > >> > >> A bit like "shiyangalolunye" which is Zulu for 'nine" -- "ten minus > >> one". > > > > So the same as Roman IX. > > We're lucky to watch a bit of the great Maigret series with Bruno Cremer > on television. The titles put the date of 1992 as > MIXCLXXXXII. > Is IXC acceptable for 900? No, should be CM > Looks rather as 91 to me. 91 should be XCI > Why not MCMXCII as you'd expect? That would be correct. But there is no standard for Roman numerals, so you can get 'inventive'. Standard practice is that only single symbols can be in inverse order, (from the origin as abacus notation) Jan
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| From | richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 10:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1125e5d$onc0$1@artemis.inf.ed.ac.uk> |
| In reply to | #1145998 |
In article <psnb4l5p7vr6er8n1rbvs62gk64mbno3i4@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: >A bit like "shiyangalolunye" which is Zulu for 'nine" -- "ten minus >one". The compilers of the Unicode standard believed that Tibetan allows any digit to have a line through it, meaning one-half less then the plain digit. So for example the character U+0F31 represents one-half less than eight, 7 1/2. The digit zero is included, so that the character U+0F33 represents -1/2. There seems to be some doubt about the reality of this. -- Richard
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