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[OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one!

Started byHibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid>
First post2026-07-01 11:16 +0100
Last post2026-07-05 06:34 +0100
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  [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-01 11:16 +0100
    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-01 12:30 +0200
      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-01 21:26 +1000
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-01 12:49 +0000
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-01 16:43 +0100
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-01 17:43 +0100
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 06:11 +0100
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-02 11:51 +0100
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 22:57 +1000
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 16:49 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 09:19 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:13 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-01 19:31 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-01 22:52 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-01 21:08 +0000
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-01 23:13 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-02 08:16 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-02 06:35 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 09:09 +0200
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 12:49 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-07-02 14:33 +0100
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-02 14:41 +0000
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-07-02 15:58 +0100
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-03 09:26 +0100
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 17:36 +1000
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 10:57 +0200
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-06 04:37 +0200
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 09:43 +1000
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-03 11:15 +0000
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-07-06 10:54 +0100
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-06 11:00 +0000
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-06 12:44 +0100
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-06 14:49 +0000
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 11:30 -0400
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 10:56 +1000
                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-07 07:21 +0000
                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-07-08 16:39 +1200
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:30 +0200
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:27 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 16:12 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 17:33 +0200
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 19:21 +0200
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 23:26 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:38 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-04 12:52 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 08:26 +0100
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-06 20:22 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:33 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-02 05:50 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 14:33 +1000
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-02 08:23 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 12:56 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 23:09 +1000
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-02 15:06 +0100
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 09:57 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:48 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 09:58 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-02 10:22 +0000
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-02 12:04 +0100
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:35 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 09:39 +0200
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-01 16:46 +0100
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 13:51 -0700
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 09:58 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-03 14:28 +0100
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 17:47 -0700
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 17:48 -0700
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 17:50 -0700
    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-01 13:55 +0100
    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-01 17:06 +0200
      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-01 17:15 +0100
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-01 19:20 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 06:11 +0100
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-01 19:19 +0100
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-01 23:10 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 09:30 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 17:50 +1000
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:00 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:43 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 12:34 -0700
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-02 20:52 +0000
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 22:17 +0100
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:33 +0100
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 16:27 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 17:19 +0100
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-03 10:07 +1000
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 19:16 +0100
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-02 18:37 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 22:24 +0100
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-03 09:41 +0100
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:48 +0200
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-03 11:08 +0100
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-03 11:45 +0000
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 15:58 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 15:58 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-03 16:06 +0100
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-04 19:00 +0100
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-05 05:45 +0100
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 06:56 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 18:05 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 11:30 +0100
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-05 20:32 +0100
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 20:58 +0100
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 23:26 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 13:52 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 08:57 -0400
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 11:07 +1000
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:36 +0200
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 19:37 +0100
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 09:05 -0400
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 22:34 +0200
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 18:06 -0400
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-06 15:36 +0100
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 12:20 -0400
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-06 16:59 +0000
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 13:17 -0400
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-07 11:15 +1000
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-08 07:05 +0000
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-06 18:48 +0000
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:42 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 18:08 +0100
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 13:34 -0400
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 19:12 +0100
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 16:31 -0400
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 23:24 +0200
                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 19:11 -0400
                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 11:17 +0200
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-07 06:38 +0100
                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 08:59 -0400
                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-07 16:43 +0100
                                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 16:27 -0400
                                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-08 06:23 +0100
                                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-08 06:43 +0100
                                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-08 08:09 +0200
                                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-07-08 10:52 +0100
                                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-08 20:41 +0100
                                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-09 06:11 +0100
                                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-09 06:15 +0100
                                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-09 10:10 +0200
                                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-09 20:33 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 13:14 +0200
                                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-10 16:24 +0100
                                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-09 10:06 +0200
                                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-09 12:41 +0200
                                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-09 14:41 +0100
                                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-09 23:40 +0200
                                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 06:12 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 06:16 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 08:31 +0200
                                                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 08:11 +0100
                                                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 08:13 +0100
                                                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 09:43 +0200
                                                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 10:12 +0100
                                                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 11:15 +0200
                                                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-10 20:22 +1000
                                                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 13:29 +0200
                                                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 14:07 +0100
                                                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 15:21 +0200
                                                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-10 18:12 +1000
                                                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 10:12 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-10 13:14 +0200
                                                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 13:59 +0100
                                                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-10 15:22 +0200
                                                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-10 14:51 +0100
                                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-08 07:00 +0000
                                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-08 09:30 +0100
                                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-08 20:16 +1000
                                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 09:02 -0400
                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-07 16:37 +0000
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-06 19:22 +0100
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 22:34 +0200
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-06 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 00:50 +0100
                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-07 01:25 +0000
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-07 08:10 +0100
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-07 09:07 +0100
                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-07 10:20 +0000
                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-07 13:20 +0200
                                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-07 13:49 +0100
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:52 +0200
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 09:05 -0400
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-07-07 20:12 +0100
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-07 11:50 +0200
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-07 19:47 +0100
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-06 15:38 +0100
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-06 15:30 +0100
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 17:59 +1000
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 11:01 +0200
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:45 +0100
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 12:27 +0200
                          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 20:59 +1000
                            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 15:27 +0200
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-05 15:47 +0200
                              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 06:32 +0100
                                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 07:54 +0200
                                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-06 07:54 +0100
                                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 09:59 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-06 13:52 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 12:21 +0100
                      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-06 08:53 +1000
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 09:58 +0200
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 09:24 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 17:55 +1000
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 16:29 +0200
      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-02 10:24 +1000
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-02 05:56 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-03 08:51 +0200
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:44 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-07-05 18:07 +1000
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-03 15:12 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-03 14:29 +0100
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:08 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-03 20:57 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-03 19:10 +0000
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-03 20:50 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-05 19:01 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-07-05 19:05 +0000
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-07-07 19:54 +0100
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 06:24 +0200
                  Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-06 06:27 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-07-05 20:27 +0100
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-04 06:50 +0200
      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:54 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-02 14:33 +0100
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-02 16:54 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 17:45 +0200
                Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:21 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:20 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-05 08:33 +0200
    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-01 19:13 +0100
    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-02 05:45 +0200
    Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 11:52 +0800
      Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:15 +0100
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:49 +0100
        Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:22 +0200
          Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-04 06:38 +0100
            Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-04 21:37 +0200
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 13:13 +0800
              Re: [OT] Don't blink or you'll miss one! Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-05 06:34 +0100

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#1146264

Fromwollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman)
Date2026-07-05 19:05 +0000
Message-ID<112e9t8$lf2$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu>
In reply to#1146262
In article <112e2ls$17b42$1@dont-email.me>, wugi  <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote:
>I doubt it. I think it's mainly a Germanic feature.
>For a start, it concerns separable compound verbs, which have no 
>equivalent in Romance (in Slavic? In Hungarian perhaps?).

I'd be surprised if Uralic languages had this feature.  I'm pretty
sure Finnish does not.  (I flipped through my copy of HANDBOOK OF
FINNISH VERBS and didn't see anything.)  Uralic languages tend to
elaborate case systems and postpositions,(*) rather than prepositions,
so they are even more distant from the verb than in German.

-GAWollman

(*) In Finnish, postpositions typically license the genitive or the
partitive, sometimes both with different meanings for each.  There is
a theory that Uralic case systems are the result of postpositions over
time becoming attached to their complements as endings, and some cases
so formed subsequently falling out of use and being replaced by new
postpositions.
-- 
Garrett A. Wollman    | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can,
wollman@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future.  This is
Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together."
my employers.         | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)

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#1146466

FromAdam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com>
Date2026-07-07 19:54 +0100
Message-ID<kkuvhmx592.ln2@news.ducksburg.com>
In reply to#1146264
On 2026-07-05, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> In article <112e2ls$17b42$1@dont-email.me>, wugi  <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote:
>>I doubt it. I think it's mainly a Germanic feature.
>>For a start, it concerns separable compound verbs, which have no 
>>equivalent in Romance (in Slavic? In Hungarian perhaps?).
>
> I'd be surprised if Uralic languages had this feature.  I'm pretty
> sure Finnish does not.  (I flipped through my copy of HANDBOOK OF
> FINNISH VERBS and didn't see anything.)  Uralic languages tend to
> elaborate case systems and postpositions,(*) rather than prepositions,
> so they are even more distant from the verb than in German.
>
> -GAWollman
>
> (*) In Finnish, postpositions typically license the genitive or the
> partitive, sometimes both with different meanings for each.  There is
> a theory that Uralic case systems are the result of postpositions over
> time becoming attached to their complements as endings, and some cases
> so formed subsequently falling out of use and being replaced by new
> postpositions.


A professor (of formal semantics) taught us that prepositions and
cases are semantically the same type of thing.


-- 
While outside on the turnpike
They got this new hit tune
Thrills become as cheap as gas
And gas as cheap as thrills

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#1146284

FromBertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk>
Date2026-07-06 06:24 +0200
Message-ID<112famr$1lrtn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1146262
Den 05.07.2026 kl. 19.01 skrev wugi:

> BTW how do compound verbs 'work' in North-Germanic?

The general rule is that compound verbs can't be split. I may look like 
they can, but with a split the meaning changes. There are, however, some 
that can be split. I can't say how many. Examples:

opløse = dissolve
løse op = loosen e.g. a knot

udtage = select (a team for football WC)
tage ud = knit an extra mask to widen the knitted item

Splitable verb:
tilføje = add

   	Føj et link til dine bogmærker.
   	Tilføj et link.

Today the verb is seldom split for some reason. And in the unsplit 
version people miss a specification, so the common way is:

   	Tilføj et link til dine bogmærker.

where "til" is repeated.

-- 
Bertel, Kolt, Danmark

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#1146285

FromBertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk>
Date2026-07-06 06:27 +0200
Message-ID<112fas4$1m24l$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1146284
Den 06.07.2026 kl. 06.24 skrev Bertel Lund Hansen:

> tage ud = knit an extra mask to widen the knitted item

"Maske" is Danish. The word is "stitch".

-- 
Bertel, Kolt, Danmark

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#1146266

FromPhil <phil@anonymous.invalid>
Date2026-07-05 20:27 +0100
Message-ID<112eb7f$1bfnv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1146146
On 03/07/2026 19:50, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Den 03.07.2026 kl. 15.12 skrev wugi:
> 
>> Quite a productive quartet:
>>
>> In-, uit-, op- & af-
> 
> You can find equally productive pairs in Danish - and I suppose in many 
> European languages.
> 

In Czechoslovakia in the early '70s, I remember buses and trams having 
two sets of doors marked "výstup" and "nástup". Between Prague and 
Bratislava, one of those changed, but I've long since forgotten which, 
and to what.

-- 
Phil B

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#1146161

FromSteve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Date2026-07-04 06:50 +0200
Message-ID<b44h4l1epcjfeqvpik95r9nhfoua8r59aj@4ax.com>
In reply to#1146111
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 11:16:12 +0200, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder) wrote:

>Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
>
>> On 02/07/26 01:06, s|b wrote:
>> 
>> > Come visit Belgium. We're the king of traffic signs (and bad roads).
>> 
>> On my first visit to Belgiium I was left wondering why there were so
>> many roads from Sortie to Uitrit.
>
>The pairs 'oprit/afrit' and 'inrit/uitrit' both exist,
>but they don't mean the same.

oprit/afrit = onramp/offramp

inrit/uitrit = entrance/exit



-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#1146018

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2026-07-02 12:47 +0200
Message-ID<1rxm5q6.jp4pmo1lm7923N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#1145971
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 11:16:19 +0100, Hibou wrote:
> 
> > Don't blink or you'll miss a speed-limit sign. In France, the award goes
> > to the N7 between Lyon and Avignon, which has 120 changes in speed limit
> > in 100 miles (and a goodly number of radars to issue tickets too).
> > 
> > Source: JT de France 2 at 20h yesterday:
> > <https://www.franceinfo.fr/replay-jt/france-2/20-heures/jt-de-20h-du-mardi-3
0-juin-2026_8053049.html> 
> > from 17m 15s - in French, of course.
> 
> Come visit Belgium. We're the king of traffic signs (and bad roads). As
> for speed limits and fines: they've been installing 'traject controles'
> everywhere, not always for safety, but for profit.

Great, isn't it? Two false friends in one word.
BTW, your French background is showing again:
correct Dutch is 'trajectcontrole', (one word)

Jan

-- 
And you are exaggerating. Belgian roads have been much improved,
even in Wallonia.

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#1146031

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 13:54 +0200
Message-ID<nan1ruF6looU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146018
On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 12:47:44 +0200, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > Come visit Belgium. We're the king of traffic signs (and bad roads). As
> > for speed limits and fines: they've been installing 'traject controles'
> > everywhere, not always for safety, but for profit.
 
> Great, isn't it? Two false friends in one word.
> BTW, your French background is showing again:

Want some more background?

I'll give you some: madame, vélo, peignoir, bougies, joint de culasse,
merde, miljaar, nom de dieu (nondedju), remorque, camion, camionette,
perte totale, gendarme, carroserie, moment suprême, sacoche, ...

These are just some of the words we use in daily speech. And here you
are, thinking you could "shame" me for the infleunce the French language
had on us? Oh, poor, poor, Jan.

> correct Dutch is 'trajectcontrole', (one word)

My bet is that you are a retired teacher which too much time on his
hand.

-- 
s|b

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#1146037

FromHibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 14:33 +0100
Message-ID<nan7liF7ib0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146031
Le 02/07/2026 à 12:54, s|b a écrit :
> 
> Want some more background?
> 
> I'll give you some: madame, vélo, peignoir, bougies, joint de culasse,
> merde, miljaar,


Ah ! Milliard, semble-t-il (10⁹).

> nom de dieu (nondedju), remorque, camion, camionette,
> perte totale, gendarme, carroserie, moment suprême, sacoche, ...

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#1146047

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 16:54 +0200
Message-ID<nanccgF8b9uU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146037
On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 14:33:38 +0100, Hibou wrote:

> Le 02/07/2026 à 12:54, s|b a écrit :
> > 
> > Want some more background?
> > 
> > I'll give you some: madame, vélo, peignoir, bougies, joint de culasse,
> > merde, miljaar,

> Ah ! Milliard, semble-t-il (10?).

Yes, I wrote it like we say it. It's used as a curse, for instance
'miljaardedju' (milliard de dieux).

-- 
s|b

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#1146052

Fromwugi <wugi@brol.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 17:45 +0200
Message-ID<112613e$2mqdg$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1146047
Op 2/07/2026 om 16:54 schreef s|b:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 14:33:38 +0100, Hibou wrote:
> 
>> Le 02/07/2026 à 12:54, s|b a écrit :
>>>
>>> Want some more background?
>>>
>>> I'll give you some: madame, vélo, peignoir, bougies, joint de culasse,
>>> merde, miljaar,
> 
>> Ah ! Milliard, semble-t-il (10?).
> 
> Yes, I wrote it like we say it. It's used as a curse, for instance

Then it would've rather been
madam, velo, penjwaar, boezjies, jwandkulas,
mert, miljaar, nondedju, remork, kamion, kamionet,
pertotal, zjandarm, karrosserie, momansupreim, sakosj ;-)

> 'miljaardedju' (milliard de dieux).

-- 
guido wugi

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#1146142

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-03 16:21 +0200
Message-ID<napur1Fko4pU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146052
On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 17:45:49 +0200, wugi wrote:

> Op 2/07/2026 om 16:54 schreef s|b:
>
> > Yes, I wrote it like we say it. It's used as a curse, for instance
 
> Then it would've rather been
> madam, velo, penjwaar, boezjies, jwandkulas,
> mert, miljaar, nondedju, remork, kamion, kamionet,
> pertotal, zjandarm, karrosserie, momansupreim, sakosj ;-)

Zjust!

-- 
s|b

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#1146112

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
Message-ID<1rxo2x2.147v8pdq8w6ivN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#1146037
Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

> Le 02/07/2026 à 12:54, s|b a écrit :
> > 
> > Want some more background?
> > 
> > I'll give you some: madame, vélo, peignoir, bougies, joint de culasse,
> > merde, miljaar,
> 
> 
> Ah ! Milliard, semble-t-il (10?).
> 
> > nom de dieu (nondedju), remorque, camion, camionette,
> > perte totale, gendarme, carroserie, moment suprême, sacoche, ...

Mais oui, 'Mille millions de mille milliards de mille (sabords)' !

The English translation is poor. (as so often)
'Blistering Barnacles' may be alliterating,
but it lacks the possibility of naturally piling up multitudes,
like it should, to accommodate his rages,

Jan



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#1146110

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
Message-ID<1rxo27n.2r4g1jqx6ar3N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#1146031
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 12:47:44 +0200, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
> > s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > Come visit Belgium. We're the king of traffic signs (and bad roads). As
> > > for speed limits and fines: they've been installing 'traject controles'
> > > everywhere, not always for safety, but for profit.
>  
> > Great, isn't it? Two false friends in one word.
> > BTW, your French background is showing again:
> 
> Want some more background?
> 
> I'll give you some: madame, vélo, peignoir, bougies, joint de culasse,
> merde, miljaar, nom de dieu (nondedju), remorque, camion, camionette,
> perte totale, gendarme, carroserie, moment suprême, sacoche, ...

FYI, you are being silly.

> These are just some of the words we use in daily speech. And here you
> are, thinking you could "shame" me for the infleunce the French language
> had on us? Oh, poor, poor, Jan.
> 
> > correct Dutch is 'trajectcontrole', (one word)
> 
> My bet is that you are a retired teacher which too much time on his
> hand.

Just someone with a better eye for the peculiarities of Belgian Dutch.
(than you have)

This is not at all exceptional: outsiders usually have a better eye
for peculiarities than native speakers.
This forum is of course a perfect illustration:
AmE and BrE speakers for example see each others peculiarities in usage
much better then the natives in these dialects can,

Jan


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#1146141

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-03 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<napupgFko4pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146110
On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 11:16:12 +0200, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
> > My bet is that you are a retired teacher which too much time on his
> > hand.
 
> Just someone with a better eye for the peculiarities of Belgian Dutch.
> (than you have)

Well, as an outsider I can confirm it's true what they say about
Dutchmen: they're arrogant.

-- 
s|b

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#1146226

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2026-07-05 08:33 +0200
Message-ID<1rxqwsl.16xx8v81rshdzeN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#1146141
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 11:16:12 +0200, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
> > s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > My bet is that you are a retired teacher which too much time on his
> > > hand.
>  
> > Just someone with a better eye for the peculiarities of Belgian Dutch.
> > (than you have)
> 
> Well, as an outsider I can confirm it's true what they say about
> Dutchmen: they're arrogant.

That's just your Belgian confirmation bias,

Jan

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#1145978

FromSam Plusnet <not@home.com>
Date2026-07-01 19:13 +0100
Message-ID<gNc1S.7196$sPxa.22@fx12.ams1>
In reply to#1145961
On 01/07/2026 11:16, Hibou wrote:
> Don't blink or you'll miss a speed-limit sign. In France, the award goes 
> to the N7 between Lyon and Avignon, which has 120 changes in speed limit 
> in 100 miles (and a goodly number of radars to issue tickets too).
> 
> Source: JT de France 2 at 20h yesterday:
> <https://www.franceinfo.fr/replay-jt/france-2/20-heures/jt-de-20h-du- 
> mardi-30-juin-2026_8053049.html> from 17m 15s - in French, of course.
> 
Wales can compete on a 'speed changes per mile' basis.

When going to where our caravan is stored, there are 6 speed limit 
changes in less than 3 miles.  This is all on the one road except for 
the last few yards.

-- 
Sam Plusnet

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#1145997

FromSteve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Date2026-07-02 05:45 +0200
Message-ID<2gnb4ldpbci5haahoffhfkfho5nmg5bh1t@4ax.com>
In reply to#1145961
On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 11:16:19 +0100, Hibou
<vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

>Don't blink or you'll miss a speed-limit sign. In France, the award goes 
>to the N7 between Lyon and Avignon, which has 120 changes in speed limit 
>in 100 miles (and a goodly number of radars to issue tickets too).

Sounds like Botswana, which must run a close second. 

I once drove off the main road into a small town to look at something
or other, and rejoined the main road a litte further on, having missed
the speed limit sign, and got a ticket just over the next rise. 


-- 
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#1146087

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-03 11:52 +0800
Message-ID<1127bm1$34m6a$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#1145961
On 7/1/2026 6:16 PM, Hibou wrote:
> Don't blink or you'll miss a speed-limit sign. In France, the award goes
> ..... 

Why don't post in French newsgroups?

Why posted it in alt.usage.english
& alt.english.usage ? :)

NOT IMPORTANT AND NOT A PROBLEM; I'm just curious.
(Yes, I know.)

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#1146091

FromHibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date2026-07-03 07:15 +0100
Message-ID<nap2cmFg593U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1146087
Le 03/07/2026 à 04:52, Mr. Man-wai Chang a écrit :
> On 7/1/2026 6:16 PM, Hibou wrote:
>>
>> Don't blink or you'll miss a speed-limit sign. In France, the award goes
>> ..... 
> 
> Why don't post in French newsgroups?


Why didn't I start this thread in a French newsgroup?

Well, fr.soc.politique is a cesspit (c'est le far west là-bas), and in 
the other French groups I know that aren't dead, it would be squarely HC 
(hors charte).

> Why posted it in alt.usage.english
> & alt.english.usage ? :)


Why did I start it in aue?

Aue is nicely flexible. On y parle de tout et de rien, sans pour autant 
perdre de vue le sujet de fond. We exchange without limits here, while 
always returning to English usage.

> NOT IMPORTANT AND NOT A PROBLEM; I'm just curious.
> (Yes, I know.)


That, indeed, was my impression.


Posted to aue only.

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