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| Started by | Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-05-27 14:53 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-05-30 12:19 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 224 — 32 participants |
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The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 14:53 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2017-05-27 16:07 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 16:15 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-05-27 21:24 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? cruciverbalist <readingnewsgroups@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-30 12:23 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 10:29 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 00:51 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 23:07 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 10:57 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-05-30 15:29 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-05-30 20:26 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-05-30 19:11 +0000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 12:37 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-05-30 22:52 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-05-30 21:53 +0000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 21:12 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 21:21 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 21:45 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-05-30 21:48 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 21:53 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-05-31 06:47 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 17:28 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 02:21 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 00:42 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 16:01 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2017-05-31 15:46 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 00:54 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 15:54 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 16:18 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 16:55 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 00:51 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 16:21 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 19:03 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-05-31 22:20 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-06-01 12:21 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-06-01 10:28 +0000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-01 04:33 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2017-06-01 05:23 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-01 06:40 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-01 20:22 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 12:27 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-05 13:22 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-05 14:19 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 12:39 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-05 12:51 -0600
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-02 00:33 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 13:53 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-02 21:49 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 16:58 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-02 17:22 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-06-01 20:47 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 00:48 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 01:15 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 09:07 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 01:01 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 10:19 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-05-31 20:20 +0000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-06-01 20:47 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-05-31 14:51 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-05-31 20:22 +0000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2017-05-31 13:38 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 13:52 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-02 22:22 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Richard Bollard <richardb@spamt.edu.au> - 2017-06-01 14:55 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-02 22:30 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-02 14:58 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-03 00:17 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-05 13:22 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-05 13:48 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-07 00:42 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Cheryl <cperkins@med.mun.ca> - 2017-06-06 13:05 -0230
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-06 13:10 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-05 12:32 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 01:34 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-05 18:04 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 01:11 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-05-31 14:34 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-01 04:29 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 14:06 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-06-02 11:02 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 22:25 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-03 11:56 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-06-02 16:20 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-05-31 19:00 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-05-31 19:20 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-05-31 14:40 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-05-31 18:04 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-01 06:37 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-01 08:00 -0600
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-02 13:09 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-04 23:50 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 14:26 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2017-06-02 00:54 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-04 23:37 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-05 10:00 -0600
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 22:32 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-06-02 16:08 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2017-06-02 14:57 -0500
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 13:51 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-03 12:03 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2017-06-02 22:30 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-03 13:28 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 14:43 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-03 15:02 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-03 19:58 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-06-04 17:12 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 09:45 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 16:40 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2017-06-06 09:52 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-04 10:52 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-04 11:53 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-06-04 20:19 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-05 04:24 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-06 13:13 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-04 10:55 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-04 10:50 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2017-06-05 01:09 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2017-06-05 09:26 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2017-06-06 09:59 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-06 23:53 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-06 10:13 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2017-06-07 09:29 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-06-07 12:14 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-10 16:04 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> - 2017-06-11 01:42 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-11 05:36 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-06-11 11:04 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Richard Bollard <richardb@spamt.edu.au> - 2017-06-05 12:11 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-05 23:51 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2017-06-06 06:35 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-07 00:08 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Cheryl <cperkins@med.mun.ca> - 2017-06-06 12:02 -0230
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-06 13:22 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 07:54 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-03 00:57 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 12:37 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 09:45 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 10:11 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Richard Bollard <richardb@spamt.edu.au> - 2017-06-05 12:17 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-02 13:28 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-03 12:29 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 14:18 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2017-06-02 01:08 -0500
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2017-06-01 23:53 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-06-02 11:02 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2017-06-02 14:48 -0500
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 11:23 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-05-31 20:17 +0000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 13:34 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-06-01 08:30 +0000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-01 01:52 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2017-06-01 05:25 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-01 11:37 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Richard Bollard <richardb@spamt.edu.au> - 2017-06-02 10:27 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 15:48 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-01 11:10 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-01 14:17 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-02 14:35 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2017-06-02 01:12 -0500
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-02 03:20 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-06-02 16:21 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-06-02 16:33 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 08:56 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2017-06-02 14:53 -0500
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 13:05 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2017-06-02 22:07 -0500
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2017-06-02 16:48 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2017-06-02 14:50 -0500
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-02 22:15 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-06-02 17:28 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 00:52 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-06-02 20:39 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-06-01 11:35 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-31 12:36 -0600
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> - 2017-05-31 16:27 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-05-31 17:57 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? cruciverbalist <readingnewsgroups@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-31 22:07 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-02 22:32 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 01:50 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2017-06-03 11:17 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 08:47 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2017-05-27 16:11 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 16:24 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 20:28 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-05-28 12:26 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2017-05-28 08:24 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2017-05-28 09:30 +0200
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2017-05-30 12:11 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2017-05-30 12:21 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-05-30 04:40 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2017-05-30 11:48 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2017-05-30 13:55 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2017-05-30 06:09 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2017-06-01 01:21 +1000
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2017-05-30 17:29 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-01 01:19 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-06-01 00:49 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2017-06-02 22:34 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 20:18 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 23:21 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2017-05-28 07:43 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 00:05 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2017-05-28 07:56 -0230
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-28 06:27 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-28 08:25 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 00:54 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-05-30 13:10 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-05-30 13:36 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2017-05-31 13:17 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> - 2017-05-27 18:48 -0400
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 06:42 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> - 2017-05-29 15:57 +0100
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 11:13 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 12:09 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 12:37 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 13:47 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 14:05 -0700
Re: The most stupid misrepresentation ever? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 16:19 -0700
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| From | "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-06 10:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d7425b13-72fe-48b5-b87b-d674392e135a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680844 |
On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote: > When I went to Melbourne, at the age of 17, I noticed that at Flinders > Street station (the busiest railway station in the city) and at peak > hour, most people ran. In part this was because it often turned out that > the train you wanted was not at the expected platform but at a different > platform, so you had to hurry between platforms. (That also meant > running up and down stairs. Older people can't do that, but at 17 > anything is possible.) As a side effect, you often discovered that the > train was already moving by the time you reached it. New York's Penn Station is so overcrowded that it is impossible to know which of half a dozen or so tracks any particular train will be found on -- this holds even for Amtrak's luxury through express from Washington to Boston, the Acela. There are just 21 tracks, to handle both Amtrak and the three commuter rails, the Long Island Rail Road and Metro North (which serves suburbs in New York and Connecticut), and New Jersey Transit. Sets of three of the tracks will be rotated out of service over the summer so that long-deferred track maintenance can be performed (there have been two very minor derailments in the last few weeks), and the sole rail tunnel under the Hudson to New Jersey was badly damaged by SuperStorm Sandy flooding. One of Chris Christie's first acts as governor of NJ in 2009 was to cancel construction (which had already begun) of a new rail tunnel -- which would have been open by 2019 or so.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-06-07 09:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <eppobbF38dpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #680844 |
On 2017-06-06 13:53:44 +0000, Peter Moylan said: > On 05/06/17 10:03, Robert Bannister wrote: >> On 5/6/17 2:12 am, Mack A. Damia wrote: > >>> I always watched the conductors who would usually get off the bus as >>> it was coming to a bus stop while the bus was still moving and coming >>> to a stop. >>> >>> One day, I did that as the bus arrived at the school; I jumped off >>> before the bus had come to a complete stop. >> >> Back when London buses all had an open deck at the back, everybody >> jumped off and sometimes onto moving buses. And yes, I must have fallen >> a couple of times before I got proficient. > > When I went to Melbourne, at the age of 17, I noticed that at Flinders > Street station (the busiest railway station in the city) and at peak > hour, most people ran. In part this was because it often turned out that > the train you wanted was not at the expected platform but at a different > platform, That is something I don't understand about French trains. They never let you into the secret of which platform they will leave from until 20 miinutes before departure. In Germany, by contrast, the platforms are printed in the timetables, and except in special circumstances they do indeed follow the printed information. > so you had to hurry between platforms. (That also meant > running up and down stairs. Older people can't do that, but at 17 > anything is possible.) As a side effect, you often discovered that the > train was already moving by the time you reached it. > > Regular travellers knew that it took time for the train to get up to > speed. That meant that you had a good chance, if you ran alongside the > train, to match speeds with it, and then to jump through an open door. > It didn't take me long to pick up that skill. The jump had to be well > timed, of course. > > These days they close the doors before the train starts moving. Yet > another valuable skill has been made obsolete. -- athel
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2017-06-07 12:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1n78z3b.1j4pmjp1lw1pl5N@de-ster.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #680969 |
Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote: > On 2017-06-06 13:53:44 +0000, Peter Moylan said: > > > On 05/06/17 10:03, Robert Bannister wrote: > >> On 5/6/17 2:12 am, Mack A. Damia wrote: > > > >>> I always watched the conductors who would usually get off the bus as > >>> it was coming to a bus stop while the bus was still moving and coming > >>> to a stop. > >>> > >>> One day, I did that as the bus arrived at the school; I jumped off > >>> before the bus had come to a complete stop. > >> > >> Back when London buses all had an open deck at the back, everybody > >> jumped off and sometimes onto moving buses. And yes, I must have fallen > >> a couple of times before I got proficient. > > > > When I went to Melbourne, at the age of 17, I noticed that at Flinders > > Street station (the busiest railway station in the city) and at peak > > hour, most people ran. In part this was because it often turned out that > > the train you wanted was not at the expected platform but at a different > > platform, > > That is something I don't understand about French trains. They never > let you into the secret of which platform they will leave from until 20 > miinutes before departure. In Germany, by contrast, the platforms are > printed in the timetables, and except in special circumstances they do > indeed follow the printed information. No doubt a French tradition of long standing. The introduction of Tati's 'Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot' is memorable, (still with steam traction) Jan
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| From | Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-10 16:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7fec8165-311d-49ce-896c-9960fc90f0e5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680987 |
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 4:14:06 AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote: > > > On 2017-06-06 13:53:44 +0000, Peter Moylan said: > > > > > On 05/06/17 10:03, Robert Bannister wrote: > > >> On 5/6/17 2:12 am, Mack A. Damia wrote: > > > > > >>> I always watched the conductors who would usually get off the bus as > > >>> it was coming to a bus stop while the bus was still moving and coming > > >>> to a stop. > > >>> > > >>> One day, I did that as the bus arrived at the school; I jumped off > > >>> before the bus had come to a complete stop. > > >> > > >> Back when London buses all had an open deck at the back, everybody > > >> jumped off and sometimes onto moving buses. And yes, I must have fallen > > >> a couple of times before I got proficient. > > > > > > When I went to Melbourne, at the age of 17, I noticed that at Flinders > > > Street station (the busiest railway station in the city) and at peak > > > hour, most people ran. In part this was because it often turned out that > > > the train you wanted was not at the expected platform but at a different > > > platform, > > > > That is something I don't understand about French trains. They never > > let you into the secret of which platform they will leave from until 20 > > miinutes before departure. In Germany, by contrast, the platforms are > > printed in the timetables, and except in special circumstances they do > > indeed follow the printed information. > > No doubt a French tradition of long standing. ... More a long-running tradition. -- Jerry Friedman
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| From | Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-06-11 01:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bogus-769FF7.01424311062017@four.schnuerpel.eu> |
| In reply to | #681562 |
> That is something I don't understand about French trains. They never > let you into the secret of which platform they will leave from until 20 > miinutes before departure. In Germany, by contrast, the platforms are > printed in the timetables, and except in special circumstances they do > indeed follow the printed information. Try Budapest Kelenföld. It has a wonderfully modern concourse leading by flights of steps up to grotty platforms that haven't been upgraded in decades. The only complete information about which trains are leaving from where is in the concourse - but it's a big station so you can't very well wait there. Once up on a platform, the display board only gives you information about arrivals and departures for that one, and they reschedule platforms frequently. You've basically bought a raffle ticket for a train journey. (Most trains out of Budapest that go through Kelenföld started at one of the termini - it's less hair-raising to find out which one and leave from there. On the other hand, Kelenföld is often a very handy station to arrive at). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- e m a i l : j a c k @ c a m p i n . m e . u k Jack Campin, 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU, Scotland mobile 07895 860 060 <http://www.campin.me.uk> Twitter: JackCampin
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| From | "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-11 05:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <719178a7-2f11-4174-a632-28e4b2d81062@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #681571 |
On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 4:45:08 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote: > The train I most frequently travel on uses any one of three adjacent > platforms. There's around 10-15 minutes after the platform number comes > up on the main concourse info screen, to make your way less than 100 > yards to it. You're lucky. At Penn Station (NY) it's 5 minutes.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2017-06-11 11:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1n7g9s0.1xcin3l1142a56N@de-ster.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #681562 |
Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 4:14:06 AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote: > > > > > On 2017-06-06 13:53:44 +0000, Peter Moylan said: > > > > > > > On 05/06/17 10:03, Robert Bannister wrote: > > > >> On 5/6/17 2:12 am, Mack A. Damia wrote: > > > > > > > >>> I always watched the conductors who would usually get off the bus as > > > >>> it was coming to a bus stop while the bus was still moving and coming > > > >>> to a stop. > > > >>> > > > >>> One day, I did that as the bus arrived at the school; I jumped off > > > >>> before the bus had come to a complete stop. > > > >> > > > >> Back when London buses all had an open deck at the back, everybody > > > >> jumped off and sometimes onto moving buses. And yes, I must have fallen > > > >> a couple of times before I got proficient. > > > > > > > > When I went to Melbourne, at the age of 17, I noticed that at Flinders > > > > Street station (the busiest railway station in the city) and at peak > > > > hour, most people ran. In part this was because it often turned out that > > > > the train you wanted was not at the expected platform but at a different > > > > platform, > > > > > > That is something I don't understand about French trains. They never > > > let you into the secret of which platform they will leave from until 20 > > > miinutes before departure. In Germany, by contrast, the platforms are > > > printed in the timetables, and except in special circumstances they do > > > indeed follow the printed information. > > > > No doubt a French tradition of long standing. > ... > > More a long-running tradition. Ah, you saw it. There is a similar legend about the Paris Metro. They pretend to transport you all over Paris, but in reality they make you walk most of the distance in their huge underground stations, Jan
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| From | Richard Bollard <richardb@spamt.edu.au> |
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| Date | 2017-06-05 12:11 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <f1f9jc5gftr0mjmf455eg48kq08u92l6en@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #680322 |
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 17:22:33 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >In article <epd9ccF6c1mU1@mid.individual.net>, >lauraDRAGON.spira@gmail.com says... >> >> On 02/06/2017 13:32, Peter Moylan wrote: >> > On 02/06/17 16:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: >> > >> >>>> I used to walk uphill (quite a steep hill, too) to school, about a mile, >> >> >> >> Following Mark's example I have just checked with Google Maps: it was >> >> 0.7 mile, but I suppose one could call that "about a mile", and the last >> >> two-thirds was indeed uphill all the way. >> > >> > I have just done the same check. To my great surprise, Google Maps said >> > I had to walk to school for 2.4 km, which is about a mile and a half. My >> > memory has always told me that it was exactly one mile. I know it took >> > about half an hour to walk the distance. >> > >> >> Isn't it interesting? I discovered that from the age of 6 to 11 I walked >> .6m but my memory is that it was up a very steep hill. I must go back >> and see if an adult perspective on the gradient is different. >> >> To get to my secondary school I had a complicated journey which involved >> a short walk, a bus ride, three stops on the tube and then a long walk, >> which I now find was just over a mile. > > For the first term at primary school (age 5) my father delivered and >collected me by car. After that I was expected to use public service >buses for which I had to walk 200 yards from home, cross a busy road, >catch a number 7 public bus to town, where I would change to the 29 bus >to school. The total distance was about 5 miles. I carried the bus fares >in a purse round my neck. Other local kids my age and older, attending >the same school did the same; the only advice I got was "follow a big >girl and do what they do". No probs. Getting to school by myself was >easy. > > Twice running on the homeward journey I ended up in police custody >after getting on the wrong bus and riding until it dawned on the >conductor that I had no idea where to get off. The real problem was, I >didn't know where to get on. I knew that on the home journey I was to >catch the 29 then the 7 but nobody had explained the basics of bus >routes. I didn't realise that I needed to cross the road to catch a 29 >going in the opposite direction, back to town.So I followed a big girl >who got on the 29 where I'd got off it that morning. > > Next day, I got off the right-direction 29 in town but at the wrong >stop (following the wrong big girl, again). Her stop was not one shared >by the 7. Having waited ages in vain for a 7, I just got on the next >bus, confident it was surely heading in the same direction as a 7. It >wasn't. Another trip to the end of the route, then the police station, >again. > > Neither my parents,or the police seemed very surprised or concerned at >a 5 yr old getting lost on buses; and certainly didn't take it as a >hint I was too young to be travelling alone. They were sure I'd soon >learn, and I did. > > Janet > I was in high school but a different city, on an orchestra trip and being billeted by a family in the Perth suburbia. I caught a bus to get to their place but fell asleep and missed my stop. At the end of his route, the driver asked me where it was and said he would let me off on the return journey. I fell asleep again and he had to rouse me. -- Richard Bollard Canberra Australia To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.
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| From | Dingbat <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-05 23:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <acf6e37b-14db-438b-9120-04d44f7096fd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680665 |
On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 5:22:52 AM UTC+5:30, Robert Bannister wrote: > I lived with the family in > Hoddesdon and went to parties in London. The very last train went from > Kings Cross to Hertford at about 1am and then it was a four mile walk > through pitch black countryside to Hoddesdon. One night an invisible (in > the dark) cow must have leaned over the hedge and licked my face - I > believe I broke all Olympic high jump and sprint records before I > stopped and realised what had happened. > Ha! In the rhyme, it's the cow that jumps over the moon. "Hey Diddle Diddle" (also "Hi Diddle Diddle", "The Cat and the Fiddle", or "The Cow Jumped Over the Moon") is an English nursery rhyme. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Diddle_Diddle
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| From | RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-06 06:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <oh6bas2s65@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #680665 |
On 6/5/2017 4:52 PM, Robert Bannister wrote: > > The other one was a bit earlier, when I lived with the family in > Hoddesdon and went to parties in London. The very last train went from > Kings Cross to Hertford at about 1am and then it was a four mile walk > through pitch black countryside to Hoddesdon. One night an invisible (in > the dark) cow must have leaned over the hedge and licked my face - I > believe I broke all Olympic high jump and sprint records before I > stopped and realised what had happened. ObUrbanLegend: people can lick too....r
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-06-07 00:08 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <oh6cr6$30f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680665 |
On 06/06/17 09:52, Robert Bannister wrote: > On 5/6/17 6:51 pm, Janet wrote: >> The all time worst was when I woke up alone in the last train of the >> day which was empty, doors locked, and parked in a siding. Luckily a >> railway worker walked past and was very surprised to see me banging on >> the window. >> What do do; we were at the end of the rural line and the next train out >> was not until the next day. We agreed that someone had been very remiss >> in leaving an unconscious passenger trapped in his train overnight. So >> to save any trouble my rescuer let me out, we both got into the cab, and >> he drove the train back down the line to my stop. > > What a nice man. > Wasn't like that for me. I used to play football (rugby) in Loughton, > and after a few cleansing ales, I had it all worked out to catch the > very last train connections back to Wimbledon where I lived. Usually, I > fell asleep and missed my change at Earls Court and had to walk home > from Ruislip or Ealing Broadway, but a couple of times I missed the last > connecting train at Mile End and had to walk all the way through the > docklands, which had not been prettified back then and were somewhat > scary. Still, a few pints and of course being in my twenties banished > all worries. > > The other one was a bit earlier, when I lived with the family in > Hoddesdon and went to parties in London. The very last train went from > Kings Cross to Hertford at about 1am and then it was a four mile walk > through pitch black countryside to Hoddesdon. One night an invisible (in > the dark) cow must have leaned over the hedge and licked my face - I > believe I broke all Olympic high jump and sprint records before I > stopped and realised what had happened. I once got lost in Brussels, by taking the right numbered tram in the wrong direction. (I was following instructions that had been given me by telephone by my then wife. She made it sound easy: just get off the train, and then take the number XX tram to a certain neighbourhood.) I became increasingly nervous as I failed to recognise any landmarks. Eventually the tram reached the terminus, at which point it became clear that I had gone in the wrong direction. By then I was the only passenger. I explained my problem to the driver, and asked when the tram would be going back. Never, it seemed. (So did the tram stay there forever? I never found out.) But she explained that we had gone in a partial loop, so it was only about 5 km back to the central station. She told me which direction to walk, and indeed I got back and managed to catch the correct tram. -- Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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| From | Cheryl <cperkins@med.mun.ca> |
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| Date | 2017-06-06 12:02 -0230 |
| Message-ID | <epnsn1FkntmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #680849 |
On 2017-06-06 11:38 AM, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 06/06/17 09:52, Robert Bannister wrote: >> On 5/6/17 6:51 pm, Janet wrote: > >>> The all time worst was when I woke up alone in the last train of the >>> day which was empty, doors locked, and parked in a siding. Luckily a >>> railway worker walked past and was very surprised to see me banging on >>> the window. >>> What do do; we were at the end of the rural line and the next train out >>> was not until the next day. We agreed that someone had been very remiss >>> in leaving an unconscious passenger trapped in his train overnight. So >>> to save any trouble my rescuer let me out, we both got into the cab, and >>> he drove the train back down the line to my stop. >> >> What a nice man. >> Wasn't like that for me. I used to play football (rugby) in Loughton, >> and after a few cleansing ales, I had it all worked out to catch the >> very last train connections back to Wimbledon where I lived. Usually, I >> fell asleep and missed my change at Earls Court and had to walk home >> from Ruislip or Ealing Broadway, but a couple of times I missed the last >> connecting train at Mile End and had to walk all the way through the >> docklands, which had not been prettified back then and were somewhat >> scary. Still, a few pints and of course being in my twenties banished >> all worries. >> >> The other one was a bit earlier, when I lived with the family in >> Hoddesdon and went to parties in London. The very last train went from >> Kings Cross to Hertford at about 1am and then it was a four mile walk >> through pitch black countryside to Hoddesdon. One night an invisible (in >> the dark) cow must have leaned over the hedge and licked my face - I >> believe I broke all Olympic high jump and sprint records before I >> stopped and realised what had happened. > > I once got lost in Brussels, by taking the right numbered tram in the > wrong direction. (I was following instructions that had been given me by > telephone by my then wife. She made it sound easy: just get off the > train, and then take the number XX tram to a certain neighbourhood.) I > became increasingly nervous as I failed to recognise any landmarks. > Eventually the tram reached the terminus, at which point it became clear > that I had gone in the wrong direction. By then I was the only passenger. > > I explained my problem to the driver, and asked when the tram would be > going back. Never, it seemed. (So did the tram stay there forever? I > never found out.) But she explained that we had gone in a partial loop, > so it was only about 5 km back to the central station. She told me which > direction to walk, and indeed I got back and managed to catch the > correct tram. > Most of our local bus drivers are very kind and helpful, but I'll never forget the one who advised me on the expected arrival time of a bus which wasn't actually running that night. Unlike most of them, who had either memorized the schedule, or would look it up for you, he just said "half an hour" regardless of whether the bus in question was on the road. Nowadays, of course, people with a suitable phone can find out not only when the bus is due, but also whether or not it is running behind, and if so, by how much time. -- Cheryl
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| From | Quinn C <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> |
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| Date | 2017-06-06 13:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <11tcccht8bn3b$.dlg@mid.crommatograph.info> |
| In reply to | #680853 |
* Cheryl: > Most of our local bus drivers are very kind and helpful, but I'll never > forget the one who advised me on the expected arrival time of a bus > which wasn't actually running that night. Unlike most of them, who had > either memorized the schedule, or would look it up for you, he just said > "half an hour" regardless of whether the bus in question was on the road. > > Nowadays, of course, people with a suitable phone can find out not only > when the bus is due, but also whether or not it is running behind, and > if so, by how much time. You have that already? Montreal is still working on it. I think it's in connection with that plan that most buses finally got a display that shows the next stop, instead of just the hard-to-understand recording that is played if the driver isn't too lazy. -- ... their average size remains so much smaller; so that the sum total of food converted into thought by women can never equal [that of] men. It follows therefore, that men will always think more than women. -- M.A. Hardaker in Popular Science (1881)
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| From | Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-02 07:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a14adeba-569e-4509-9c18-16704f32d8c3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680285 |
On Friday, 2 June 2017 15:03:59 UTC+1, LFS wrote:
> On 02/06/2017 14:33, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:26:32 +1000, Peter Moylan
> > <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/06/17 16:10, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>> On 2017-05-31 18:06:30 +0000, Cheryl said:
> >>>> On 2017-05-31 3:50 PM, Katy Jennison wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> In the old days, of course, children left home at 6am in order to walk
> >>>>> the five miles to school ...
> >>>>
> >>>> Uphill both ways!
> >>>>
> >>>> We not only walked to and from school in the morning (which was maybe
> >>>> a quarter of a mile away) we did it at lunchtime too. Most mothers
> >>>> didn't work outside the home, and there were no facilities for eating
> >>>> in school.
> >>>
> >>> I used to walk uphill (quite a steep hill, too) to school, about a mile,
> >>> or 1.6 km as your local authority would call it, and downhill home,
> >>> between the ages of 7 and 11. We had lunch at school.
> >>
> >> One of my grandfathers used to relate how he had to climb a steep hill
> >> to come home from school. It was such a long walk that they had to stop
> >> and rest under a huge tree at the halfway point.
> >>
> > My grandfather spun a lot of tales about his growing-up time, but
> > never claimed that his walk to school and back was either long or
> > uphill both ways. He did say that his lunch was a sweet potato
> > brought from home. Or, maybe it was a yam. I've never known the
> > difference between a sweet potato and a yam. If there is one.
> >
> > One of the major regrets of my life is that I didn't sit down with my
> > parents or grandparents with a tape recorder and interview them about
> > their early lives. A movie camera with sound-recording ability wasn't
> > available to me when they were living, but tape/wire recorders were.
> >
>
> My aunt's family stories were wonderful. She would ramble on while
> sitting in her kitchen, chain smoking and drinking tea. But when I tried
> to capture some of it on tape she clammed up completely. She said she
> felt very aware of the recording and it made her uncomfortable.
>
> And now I can only remember one story and every day I remind myself that
> I really must write it down.
Write it down here, and it will be preserved. Put as
many "hooks" into it, as will enable a searcher searching
for your aunt - or the people in her stories - to find her
and them.
Tape (including VHS) has a short life - due to what I think
is called "magnetic drift" - so it might already have wiped
itself by this time.
Copying my 80s VHS on to a hard drive, cost nothing; and
has given me my most valuable possessions.
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| From | Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> |
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| Date | 2017-06-03 00:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ogtfe1$3u0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680335 |
On 6/2/2017 10:54 AM, Harrison Hill wrote:
> [...]
>
> Tape (including VHS) has a short life - due to what I think
> is called "magnetic drift" - so it might already have wiped
> itself by this time.
I have never heard of magnetic drift on VHS tapes. The
most common failure of VHS tapes is that some of the
metallic oxide has detached from the tape surface.
In my experience, VCRs have a much shorter life span than
VHS tapes. Usually it is a mechanical problem resulting
in the VCR mangling whatever tape is put inside it. Other
times the machine simply ceases to respond to buttons
or remote control signals.
> Copying my 80s VHS on to a hard drive, cost nothing; and
> has given me my most valuable possessions.
I suggest backing your hard drive to the cloud. My
external backup drives are only slightly longer-lived
than my VCR machines.
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| From | Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-06-03 12:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ec1375be-cd0f-4208-8463-f234988a39ef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680470 |
On Saturday, 3 June 2017 05:57:58 UTC+1, Tak To wrote:
> On 6/2/2017 10:54 AM, Harrison Hill wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > Tape (including VHS) has a short life - due to what I think
> > is called "magnetic drift" - so it might already have wiped
> > itself by this time.
>
> I have never heard of magnetic drift on VHS tapes. The
> most common failure of VHS tapes is that some of the
> metallic oxide has detached from the tape surface.
>
> In my experience, VCRs have a much shorter life span than
> VHS tapes. Usually it is a mechanical problem resulting
> in the VCR mangling whatever tape is put inside it. Other
> times the machine simply ceases to respond to buttons
> or remote control signals.
>
> > Copying my 80s VHS on to a hard drive, cost nothing; and
> > has given me my most valuable possessions.
>
> I suggest backing your hard drive to the cloud. My
> external backup drives are only slightly longer-lived
> than my VCR machines.
My son is a Norton MVP, and takes care of my back-ups. Lap-top
manuals (etc) are safe to back up to The Cloud (he says), but
don't let it anywhere near your personal data.
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| From | Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-06-02 09:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <efbdac39-412f-4ea4-a185-6479bd7df632@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680285 |
On Friday, 2 June 2017 17:11:27 UTC+1, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:35:58 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 2017-06-02, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:26:32 +1000, Peter Moylan
> >><peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>>One of my grandfathers used to relate how he had to climb a steep hill
> >>>to come home from school. It was such a long walk that they had to stop
> >>>and rest under a huge tree at the halfway point.
> >>>
> >> My grandfather spun a lot of tales about his growing-up time, but
> >> never claimed that his walk to school and back was either long or
> >> uphill both ways. He did say that his lunch was a sweet potato
> >> brought from home. Or, maybe it was a yam. I've never known the
> >> difference between a sweet potato and a yam. If there is one.
> >
> >Ipomoea batatas ("sweet potato", sometimes "yam") is native to the
> >Americas & is the orange-inside thing that you can bake or mash (like
> >a potato). Various Dioscorea species ("yam" or "true yam") are native
> >to Africa & have various shades of insides, but I don't know how to
> >cook them.
> >
> >Apparently "yam" refers to something else in New Zealand, & konyakku
> >is sometimes called "konjac yam".
> >
> >BTW, "sweet potato" is actually a retronym.
>
> I've always known them as "sweet potatoes", but I accept "yams" as a
> synonym.
>
> If my grandfather took one to school, it was probably baked in fire
> embers. He would have been in school in the first decade of the
> 1900s, and I doubt if they had a stove with an oven.
>
> Ant hoer thing I would like to know, and might have asked if I had
> interviewed him.
"Ant hoer" in respect of potatoes. Freud must be spinning
in his grave :)
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| From | Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-06-02 10:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <93cb8ee3-5032-43df-a9f4-cb2ab06d72b6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680362 |
On Friday, 2 June 2017 17:45:13 UTC+1, Harrison Hill wrote:
> On Friday, 2 June 2017 17:11:27 UTC+1, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:35:58 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On 2017-06-02, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:26:32 +1000, Peter Moylan
> > >><peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > >>>One of my grandfathers used to relate how he had to climb a steep hill
> > >>>to come home from school. It was such a long walk that they had to stop
> > >>>and rest under a huge tree at the halfway point.
> > >>>
> > >> My grandfather spun a lot of tales about his growing-up time, but
> > >> never claimed that his walk to school and back was either long or
> > >> uphill both ways. He did say that his lunch was a sweet potato
> > >> brought from home. Or, maybe it was a yam. I've never known the
> > >> difference between a sweet potato and a yam. If there is one.
> > >
> > >Ipomoea batatas ("sweet potato", sometimes "yam") is native to the
> > >Americas & is the orange-inside thing that you can bake or mash (like
> > >a potato). Various Dioscorea species ("yam" or "true yam") are native
> > >to Africa & have various shades of insides, but I don't know how to
> > >cook them.
> > >
> > >Apparently "yam" refers to something else in New Zealand, & konyakku
> > >is sometimes called "konjac yam".
> > >
> > >BTW, "sweet potato" is actually a retronym.
> >
> > I've always known them as "sweet potatoes", but I accept "yams" as a
> > synonym.
> >
> > If my grandfather took one to school, it was probably baked in fire
> > embers. He would have been in school in the first decade of the
> > 1900s, and I doubt if they had a stove with an oven.
> >
> > Ant hoer thing I would like to know, and might have asked if I had
> > interviewed him.
>
> "Ant hoer" in respect of potatoes. Freud must be spinning
> in his grave :)
If you are teasing me with ridiculous spelling mistakes
(posing as "Freudian slips"), you'll need to go Jung, Adler,
Eysenck next.
That's if you want me to tow along :)
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| From | Richard Bollard <richardb@spamt.edu.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-06-05 12:17 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <eof9jc9fj5oinkutrs69d94uk7fl8hmj7b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #680362 |
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 09:45:10 -0700 (PDT), Harrison Hill
<harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, 2 June 2017 17:11:27 UTC+1, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:35:58 +0100, Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2017-06-02, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:26:32 +1000, Peter Moylan
>> >><peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >>>One of my grandfathers used to relate how he had to climb a steep hill
>> >>>to come home from school. It was such a long walk that they had to stop
>> >>>and rest under a huge tree at the halfway point.
>> >>>
>> >> My grandfather spun a lot of tales about his growing-up time, but
>> >> never claimed that his walk to school and back was either long or
>> >> uphill both ways. He did say that his lunch was a sweet potato
>> >> brought from home. Or, maybe it was a yam. I've never known the
>> >> difference between a sweet potato and a yam. If there is one.
>> >
>> >Ipomoea batatas ("sweet potato", sometimes "yam") is native to the
>> >Americas & is the orange-inside thing that you can bake or mash (like
>> >a potato). Various Dioscorea species ("yam" or "true yam") are native
>> >to Africa & have various shades of insides, but I don't know how to
>> >cook them.
>> >
>> >Apparently "yam" refers to something else in New Zealand, & konyakku
>> >is sometimes called "konjac yam".
>> >
>> >BTW, "sweet potato" is actually a retronym.
>>
>> I've always known them as "sweet potatoes", but I accept "yams" as a
>> synonym.
>>
>> If my grandfather took one to school, it was probably baked in fire
>> embers. He would have been in school in the first decade of the
>> 1900s, and I doubt if they had a stove with an oven.
>>
>> Ant hoer thing I would like to know, and might have asked if I had
>> interviewed him.
>
>"Ant hoer" in respect of potatoes. Freud must be spinning
>in his grave :)
Well, if you are hoeing the potatoes you may well be doing it to the
ants as well.
--
Richard Bollard
Canberra Australia
To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.
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| From | Tak To <takto@alum.mit.eduxx> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-06-02 13:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ogs723$fq4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680285 |
On 6/2/2017 9:33 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
> [...] I've never known the
> difference between a sweet potato and a yam. If there is one.
You don't need to know the difference, but you might
want to know that what American commonly call yam is
actually a kind of sweet potato by botanical
classification.
--
Tak
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