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White Privilege

Started byDavid Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com>
First post2015-12-26 12:18 -0800
Last post2015-12-28 20:10 +1100
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  White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 12:18 -0800
    Re: White Privilege Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-26 15:46 -0500
    Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-26 17:58 -0330
    Re: White Privilege Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:12 -0800
      Re: White Privilege Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofsunnyvale@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 23:50 -0800
    Re: White Privilege Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofsunnyvale@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 23:48 -0800
      Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-27 06:58 -0330
        Re: White Privilege "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> - 2015-12-27 08:46 -0500
          Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 08:32 -0800
        Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 08:49 -0800
          Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 10:40 -0800
            Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 10:57 -0800
              Re: White Privilege Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2015-12-27 20:20 -0500
            Re: White Privilege spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-27 12:16 -0800
              Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 13:19 -0800
                Re: White Privilege charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-27 21:49 +0000
                  Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 14:06 -0800
                    Re: White Privilege James Hogg <Jas.Hogg@gOUTmail.com> - 2015-12-27 23:15 +0100
                    Re: White Privilege charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-27 22:20 +0000
                      Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 20:34 -0800
                      Re: White Privilege Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2015-12-28 12:27 +0000
                        Re: White Privilege richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-28 19:29 +0000
                          Re: White Privilege "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-28 22:15 +0000
                    Re: White Privilege charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-27 22:26 +0000
                      Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 20:06 -0500
                        Re: White Privilege wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2015-12-28 01:34 +0000
                        Re: White Privilege John Dawkins <artfldodgr@aol.com> - 2015-12-28 10:26 -0800
                      Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 20:40 -0800
                        Re: White Privilege Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-28 01:54 -0500
                          Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 04:18 -0800
                            Re: White Privilege Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-28 09:05 -0500
                              Re: White Privilege Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-28 11:59 -0500
                                Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 11:39 -0800
                                  Re: White Privilege Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-28 15:42 -0500
                                    Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 13:23 -0800
                        Re: White Privilege charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-28 09:27 +0000
                          Re: White Privilege Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2015-12-28 12:30 +0000
                        Re: White Privilege "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> - 2015-12-28 11:44 -0500
                  Re: White Privilege James Hogg <Jas.Hogg@gOUTmail.com> - 2015-12-27 23:15 +0100
                    Re: White Privilege charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-27 22:22 +0000
                Re: White Privilege "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-28 13:57 +0000
                  Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 09:23 -0500
                    Re: White Privilege "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> - 2015-12-28 11:37 -0500
                      Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-28 15:12 -0800
                      Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-29 15:38 +1100
                        Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 22:53 -0700
                  Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 06:41 -0800
                    Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 09:52 -0500
                      Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 08:38 -0800
                        Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 13:26 -0500
                          Re: White Privilege "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-28 22:19 +0000
                            Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 17:47 -0500
                              Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 19:58 -0800
              Re: White Privilege "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-27 22:26 +0000
              Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-28 20:23 +1100
                Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-28 08:45 -0330
                  Re: White Privilege HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2015-12-28 14:31 +0000
                    Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-28 11:53 -0330
                      Re: White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 10:18 -0800
                        Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-28 15:52 -0330
                        Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2015-12-28 14:54 -0500
                          Re: White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 14:14 -0800
                          Re: White Privilege Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-12-31 01:24 -0800
                            Re: White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 09:38 -0800
                              Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-31 11:16 -0800
                                Re: White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 12:31 -0800
                                  Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2016-01-01 06:03 -0800
                            Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-04 09:12 -0500
                              Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 07:26 -0800
                      Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2015-12-28 15:09 -0500
                        Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-28 16:55 -0330
                          Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-04 12:56 -0500
                            Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2016-01-04 14:07 -0700
                              Re: White Privilege Mike Barnes <mikebarnes333@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 22:07 +0000
                            Re: White Privilege wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2016-01-04 21:57 +0000
                              Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-04 17:36 -0500
                                Re: White Privilege wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2016-01-05 01:24 +0000
                                  Re: White Privilege Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2016-01-04 21:14 -0500
                        Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 15:59 -0700
                          Re: White Privilege msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-28 18:20 -0600
                            Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 19:45 -0500
                            Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 17:53 -0700
                              Re: White Privilege msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-28 22:53 -0600
                                Re: White Privilege Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2015-12-28 21:08 -0800
                                  Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 22:54 -0700
                                    Re: White Privilege msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-29 06:23 -0600
                                      Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-30 11:51 +1100
                                        Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-29 18:58 -0700
                                          Re: White Privilege msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-29 22:19 -0600
                                            Re: White Privilege bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-29 21:04 -0800
                                              Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-30 07:01 -0800
                                                Re: White Privilege Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-30 11:47 -0500
                                                  Re: White Privilege Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-12-31 01:30 -0800
                                                    Re: White Privilege Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-12-31 01:37 -0800
                          Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 20:02 -0800
                            Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 22:55 -0700
                              Re: White Privilege Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-29 11:08 +0100
                          Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-29 15:57 +1100
                    Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 08:44 -0800
                      Re: White Privilege "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 18:09 -0800
                        Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 20:50 -0700
                        Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-28 20:44 -0800
                          Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-29 06:49 -0800
                            Re: White Privilege rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) - 2015-12-29 17:18 +0000
                    Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-29 15:48 +1100
                      Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-28 22:57 -0700
                        Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-29 08:42 -0330
                          Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-04 12:56 -0500
                            Re: White Privilege Will Parsons <varro@nodomain.invalid> - 2016-01-04 18:38 +0000
                              Re: White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 12:03 -0800
                                Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-04 17:36 -0500
                                  Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 18:03 -0500
                                  Re: White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 16:11 -0800
                              Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-04 17:36 -0500
                                Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2016-01-04 19:14 -0330
                                Re: White Privilege richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2016-01-04 22:52 +0000
                                Re: White Privilege wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2016-01-05 01:34 +0000
                                  Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2016-01-04 19:55 -0700
                                    Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2016-01-05 06:24 -0330
                                Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-05 13:32 -0500
                              Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-05 15:20 +1100
                            Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2016-01-04 19:02 -0330
                              Re: White Privilege Oliver Cromm <lispamateur@crommatograph.info> - 2016-01-05 13:32 -0500
                            Re: White Privilege "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 18:49 -0800
                              Re: White Privilege "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2016-01-05 12:02 +0000
                        Re: White Privilege msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-29 06:24 -0600
                          Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-29 06:01 -0700
                            Re: White Privilege msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-29 22:15 -0600
                        Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 08:30 -0800
                          Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 12:28 -0500
                            Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-29 14:11 -0330
                              Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 10:29 -0800
                                Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-29 16:16 -0330
                                Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-29 16:20 -0330
                                  Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-29 14:05 -0700
                                    Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-29 17:58 -0330
                                      Re: White Privilege Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 23:25 -0800
                                    Re: White Privilege "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 17:58 -0800
                                Re: White Privilege Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-30 10:27 +0100
                                  Re: White Privilege Ross <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2015-12-30 01:57 -0800
                                  Re: White Privilege Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> - 2015-12-30 10:04 +0000
                              Re: White Privilege HVS <usenet@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2015-12-30 12:01 +0000
                          Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-30 11:57 +1100
                            Re: White Privilege Will Parsons <varro@nodomain.invalid> - 2015-12-30 01:24 +0000
                            Re: White Privilege Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 23:32 -0800
                Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 04:20 -0800
            Re: White Privilege "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> - 2015-12-27 14:08 -0500
              Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 13:23 -0800
              Re: White Privilege Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 16:49 -0500
                Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 14:07 -0800
                Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-27 19:08 -0700
              Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 19:14 -0800
                Re: White Privilege Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 19:19 -0800
          Re: White Privilege "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 11:25 -0800
            Re: White Privilege "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-27 13:27 -0800
            Re: White Privilege Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 23:37 -0800
              Re: White Privilege RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2016-01-06 03:15 -0700
                Re: White Privilege Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofsunnyvale@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 21:16 -0800
                  Re: White Privilege bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2016-01-06 22:51 -0800
          Re: White Privilege Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofsunnyvale@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 12:19 -0800
          Re: White Privilege Cheryl <cperkins@mun.ca> - 2015-12-27 17:26 -0330
      Re: White Privilege David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 10:36 -0800
        Re: White Privilege Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-28 10:12 +0100
      Re: White Privilege Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-28 20:10 +1100

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#577495

FromCheryl <cperkins@mun.ca>
Date2015-12-27 17:26 -0330
Message-ID<deb1jfFr4fdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#577442
On 2015-12-27 1:19 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:

>
> I don't think it implies that either.  It's completely obvious that
> position in society depends on many factors other than race.
>
> Do you have a suggestion for better ways to talk about this subject?

There are probably any number of ways of making the point that some 
people are treated unequally in society without resorting to an 
excessive degree on generalizations based on group membership, causing 
people to miss the obvious. I think that analysis of social problems 
based on group membership is so popular that alternatives aren't likely 
to be used.


-- 
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#577456

FromDavid Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-27 10:36 -0800
Message-ID<35bb9f27-b01d-4f73-9053-d477851c4d81@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#577377
On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 11:48:11 PM UTC-8, Helen Lacedaemonian wrote:
> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:18:46 PM UTC-8, David Kleinecke wrote:
> > At 
> >    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/andygill/white-privilege-is-a-myth/
> > the blogger uses "white privilege" is a way I do not understand.
> > 
> > To me "white privilege" is a sarcastic reference to assumed "white"
> > superiority. It is, semantically, a condemning phrase.
> > 
> > What does "white privilege" mean to you?
> 
> The term "white privilege" refers to the unfortunate fact that in our society, white 
> people have a leg up in many walks of life (still no fines for excess puns), simply 
> by virtue of being white. Peggy McIntosh, an anti-racism activist, refers to the 
> whiteness advantage as "an invisible package of unearned assets." 
> 
> It seems to me that the blogger who wrote this post felt, erroneously, that the term 
> itself implied that whites were somehow deserving of this privilege. 
> 
> Perhaps the difficulty is the word "privilege"? Which means "a special benefit 
> available only to a particular person or class," but which is sometimes confused 
> with "an advantage conferred upon those especially deserving," or even... a right.
 
That "whites" somehow merited "white privilege" seems so preposterous
to me that I didn't imagine the blogger thought that's what it meant.
But re-reading I think you're right. Amazing.

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#577592

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>
Date2015-12-28 10:12 +0100
Message-ID<deccntF66leU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#577456
On 2015-12-27 18:36:42 +0000, David Kleinecke said:

> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 11:48:11 PM UTC-8, Helen Lacedaemonian wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:18:46 PM UTC-8, David Kleinecke wrote:
>>> At
>>> http://www.patheos.com/blogs/andygill/white-privilege-is-a-myth/
>>> the blogger uses "white privilege" is a way I do not understand.
>>> 
>>> To me "white privilege" is a sarcastic reference to assumed "white"
>>> superiority. It is, semantically, a condemning phrase.
>>> 
>>> What does "white privilege" mean to you?
>> 
>> The term "white privilege" refers to the unfortunate fact that in our 
>> society, white
>> people have a leg up in many walks of life (still no fines for excess 
>> puns), simply
>> by virtue of being white. Peggy McIntosh, an anti-racism activist, 
>> refers to the
>> whiteness advantage as "an invisible package of unearned assets."
>> 
>> It seems to me that the blogger who wrote this post felt, erroneously, 
>> that the term
>> itself implied that whites were somehow deserving of this privilege.
>> 
>> Perhaps the difficulty is the word "privilege"? Which means "a special benefit
>> available only to a particular person or class," but which is sometimes 
>> confused
>> with "an advantage conferred upon those especially deserving," or 
>> even... a right.
> 
> That "whites" somehow merited "white privilege" seems so preposterous
> to me that I didn't imagine the blogger thought that's what it meant.
> But re-reading I think you're right. Amazing.

Probably. However, I found the blogger's writing style opaque to the 
point that I didn't struggle through the whole article trying to decode 
it.


-- 
athel

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#577591

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid>
Date2015-12-28 20:10 +1100
Message-ID<n5qu5t$e21$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#577377
On 2015-Dec-27 18:48, Helen Lacedaemonian wrote:
> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 12:18:46 PM UTC-8, David Kleinecke wrote:
>> At 
>>    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/andygill/white-privilege-is-a-myth/
>> the blogger uses "white privilege" is a way I do not understand.
>>
>> To me "white privilege" is a sarcastic reference to assumed "white"
>> superiority. It is, semantically, a condemning phrase.
>>
>> What does "white privilege" mean to you?
> 
> The term "white privilege" refers to the unfortunate fact that in our society, white 
> people have a leg up in many walks of life (still no fines for excess puns), simply 
> by virtue of being white. Peggy McIntosh, an anti-racism activist, refers to the 
> whiteness advantage as "an invisible package of unearned assets." 
> 
> It seems to me that the blogger who wrote this post felt, erroneously, that the term 
> itself implied that whites were somehow deserving of this privilege. 
> 
> Perhaps the difficulty is the word "privilege"? Which means "a special benefit 
> available only to a particular person or class," but which is sometimes confused 
> with "an advantage conferred upon those especially deserving," or even... a right.

Not long ago we heard that some people apply the description "entitled"
to people who believe, possibly erroneously, that they are entitled to
something. They appear to have extended the meaning by the steps
      He has a sense of entitlement => He feels entitled
                         => He _is_ entitled
where the last step is illogical, but still plausible to some minds.

Perhaps this is the same confusion extended to a related word.

-- 
Peter Moylan                           http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

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