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Mouse-trap lift

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First post2015-12-15 15:31 +0000
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  Mouse-trap lift John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-12-15 15:31 +0000
    Re: Mouse-trap lift Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-15 11:02 -0500
      Re: Mouse-trap lift Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-15 11:40 -0500
      Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-20 00:58 +0000
    Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-15 13:32 -0800
      Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-20 08:38 +0000
        Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 13:25 +0000
          Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-20 13:38 +0000
            Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 14:44 +0000
              Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-20 16:06 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 18:29 +0000
            Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-20 22:17 +0000
              Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-20 23:37 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-21 21:47 +0000
                  Re: Mouse-trap lift richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-21 23:08 +0000
                    Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-21 23:22 +0000
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 15:57 -0800
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 20:09 -0500
                        Re: Mouse-trap lift msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-21 22:32 -0600
                          Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-22 16:40 +1100
                          Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 08:03 -0500
                          Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-23 02:26 +0000
                            Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 23:26 -0500
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 18:59 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 01:20 -0800
                            Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-23 14:55 -0800
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-24 08:00 +0000
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 18:36 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-25 23:22 +0000
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-26 10:40 +0000
                          Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-22 20:53 -0800
                            Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-23 07:47 +0000
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-23 12:54 +0000
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-23 10:46 -0800
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-24 08:40 -0800
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-25 11:52 +1100
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-24 23:34 -0800
                                    Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-25 07:41 -0800
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 22:40 +0000
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-28 20:46 +1100
                                    Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-29 19:07 -0800
                                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Will Parsons <varro@nodomain.invalid> - 2015-12-30 03:48 +0000
                                        Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-30 10:41 -0800
                                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-30 16:38 +1100
                                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-30 16:30 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-27 13:08 +0000
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-27 07:06 -0800
                        Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-21 20:52 -0800
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-21 20:47 -0800
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-22 07:24 +0200
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-22 10:53 +0000
                        Re: Mouse-trap lift charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-22 11:08 +0000
                          Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-22 12:31 +0000
                          Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-23 02:31 +0000
                            Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-23 14:47 -0800
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com> - 2015-12-23 23:08 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-23 15:29 -0800
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 18:38 -0500
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-23 20:14 -0800
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-25 15:25 -0800
                              Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 19:03 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-25 19:27 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 14:34 -0500
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-25 11:43 -0800
                                    Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 19:30 -0500
                                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 19:39 -0800
                                        Re: Mouse-trap lift Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 01:32 -0800
                                          Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 21:49 +0000
                                            Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-29 12:24 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-25 15:23 -0800
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2015-12-26 01:07 +0000
                                    Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 20:38 -0500
                                      Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 22:57 +0000
                                        Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 18:11 -0500
                                    Re: Mouse-trap lift GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-27 11:02 +0000
                                      Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-27 11:55 -0800
                                  Re: Mouse-trap lift Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-26 04:28 +0000
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-25 19:34 -0700
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-26 09:49 -0800
                                Re: Mouse-trap lift Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-27 12:34 +0100
                  Re: Mouse-trap lift Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2015-12-21 23:55 +0000
                    Re: Mouse-trap lift John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-12-22 09:25 +0000
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-22 11:47 +0200
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-22 03:00 -0700
                      Re: Mouse-trap lift Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2015-12-22 12:13 +0000
          Re: Mouse-trap lift Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2015-12-20 13:23 -0500
            Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 18:48 +0000
          Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-21 09:01 +1100
            Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 23:06 +0000
        Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-20 22:12 +0000
          Re: Mouse-trap lift msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-21 02:32 -0600
    Re: Mouse-trap lift Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-16 08:06 +0200

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#577046

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-12-25 19:03 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-dZ1YGotB9iXt@localhost>
In reply to#576723
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> > ... rubbers. 
> 
> titters.

I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
 
> My flat has a vestibule. It's the gap between the outer front door and the inner front door, where the electric meter lives. 
> 
> Owain
> 


-- 
John Varela

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#577050

FromLFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk>
Date2015-12-25 19:27 +0000
Message-ID<de5jkmFgv0bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#577046
On 25/12/2015 19:03, John Varela wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>>> ... rubbers.
>>
>> titters.
>
> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".

But it's such a lovely word! My cousin, growing up in the 1930s in a 
Yiddish speaking immigrant family, learned that there were some words 
used at home that his English school pals wouldn't understand: he 
believed that galoshes was one of them and was astonished to discover as 
an adult that it wasn't Yiddish after all...



-- 
Laura (emulate St George for email)

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#577052

FromTony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-25 14:34 -0500
Message-ID<0r5r7bhqgcaqh22tbquik1f1b2bcooegli@4ax.com>
In reply to#577046
On 25 Dec 2015 19:03:30 GMT, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>> > ... rubbers. 
>> 
>> titters.
>
>I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
> 

I certainly did.  How well I remember putting on my galoshes in the
cloak room and leaving school without buckling the hasps.  It was not
cool to buckle the hasps, but the buckles on one foot caught on
buckles of the other foot and caused one to trip and fall.  That was
the price for being cool.

These are the galoshes with buckles:
https://img1.etsystatic.com/030/0/7095118/il_570xN.627963011_q5xb.jpg

The term "rubbers", for rainwear, was used but rubbers just covered
the shoes.  Galoshes came up well above the ankles.  Adults wore
rubbers.



 
-- 
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

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#577053

FromJerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com>
Date2015-12-25 11:43 -0800
Message-ID<03542265-f3cf-4a8c-bee3-aa20379b5944@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#577052
On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 2:34:24 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On 25 Dec 2015 19:03:30 GMT, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> >> > ... rubbers. 
> >> 
> >> titters.
> >
> >I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
> > 
> 
> I certainly did.  How well I remember putting on my galoshes in the
> cloak room and leaving school without buckling the hasps.  It was not
> cool to buckle the hasps, but the buckles on one foot caught on
> buckles of the other foot and caused one to trip and fall.  That was
> the price for being cool.
> 
> These are the galoshes with buckles:
> https://img1.etsystatic.com/030/0/7095118/il_570xN.627963011_q5xb.jpg
> 
> The term "rubbers", for rainwear, was used but rubbers just covered
> the shoes.  Galoshes came up well above the ankles.  Adults wore
> rubbers.

All the same in my childhood, except that "galoshes" was a word in books.
We called them boots or snow boots.  I had rubbers for rain, which
I didn't like, and boots for snow.

Also, there was no peer pressure against buckling boots.  The eastern
suburbs of Cleveland get more snow than Indianapolis.

-- 
Jerry Friedman

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#577098

FromTony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-25 19:30 -0500
Message-ID<h6er7btvffa9erd6s1scle10337i99ks68@4ax.com>
In reply to#577053
On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 11:43:09 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
<jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 2:34:24 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On 25 Dec 2015 19:03:30 GMT, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>> >> > ... rubbers. 
>> >> 
>> >> titters.
>> >
>> >I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
>> > 
>> 
>> I certainly did.  How well I remember putting on my galoshes in the
>> cloak room and leaving school without buckling the hasps.  It was not
>> cool to buckle the hasps, but the buckles on one foot caught on
>> buckles of the other foot and caused one to trip and fall.  That was
>> the price for being cool.
>> 
>> These are the galoshes with buckles:
>> https://img1.etsystatic.com/030/0/7095118/il_570xN.627963011_q5xb.jpg
>> 
>> The term "rubbers", for rainwear, was used but rubbers just covered
>> the shoes.  Galoshes came up well above the ankles.  Adults wore
>> rubbers.
>
>All the same in my childhood, except that "galoshes" was a word in books.
>We called them boots or snow boots.  I had rubbers for rain, which
>I didn't like, and boots for snow.
>
>Also, there was no peer pressure against buckling boots.  The eastern
>suburbs of Cleveland get more snow than Indianapolis.

I have misled you if you've come away thinking there was peer pressure
involved.  It was strictly an independent decision of what would be
cool.  I'm not at all sure if anyone else paid attention to my
coolness or lack of it.  

Another word for "galoshes", by the way, was "overshoes".

-- 
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

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#577561

FromJerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com>
Date2015-12-27 19:39 -0800
Message-ID<ce3af2a8-2974-4cbc-aec1-60f29742b4b4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#577098
On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 7:30:14 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 11:43:09 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
> <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 2:34:24 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >> On 25 Dec 2015 19:03:30 GMT, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> >> >> > ... rubbers. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> titters.
> >> >
> >> >I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> I certainly did.  How well I remember putting on my galoshes in the
> >> cloak room and leaving school without buckling the hasps.  It was not
> >> cool to buckle the hasps, but the buckles on one foot caught on
> >> buckles of the other foot and caused one to trip and fall.  That was
> >> the price for being cool.
> >> 
> >> These are the galoshes with buckles:
> >> https://img1.etsystatic.com/030/0/7095118/il_570xN.627963011_q5xb.jpg
> >> 
> >> The term "rubbers", for rainwear, was used but rubbers just covered
> >> the shoes.  Galoshes came up well above the ankles.  Adults wore
> >> rubbers.
> >
> >All the same in my childhood, except that "galoshes" was a word in books.
> >We called them boots or snow boots.  I had rubbers for rain, which
> >I didn't like, and boots for snow.
> >
> >Also, there was no peer pressure against buckling boots.  The eastern
> >suburbs of Cleveland get more snow than Indianapolis.
> 
> I have misled you if you've come away thinking there was peer pressure
> involved.

To me, "cool" when applied to clothing strongly implies what others will
think, especially in an impersonal statement such as "it was not cool",
but that may be just me.

> It was strictly an independent decision of what would be
> cool.  I'm not at all sure if anyone else paid attention to my
> coolness or lack of it.  
> 
> Another word for "galoshes", by the way, was "overshoes".

Another one I knew but didn't hear much.

-- 
Jerry Friedman

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#577598

FromSnidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-28 01:32 -0800
Message-ID<mn.e05c7dfc29a47e4a.127094@snitoo>
In reply to#577561
Remember when Jerry Friedman bragged outrageously?  That was Sunday:
> On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 7:30:14 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 11:43:09 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
>> <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 2:34:24 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> On 25 Dec 2015 19:03:30 GMT, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>>>>>>> ... rubbers. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> titters.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I certainly did.  How well I remember putting on my galoshes in the
>>>> cloak room and leaving school without buckling the hasps.  It was not
>>>> cool to buckle the hasps, but the buckles on one foot caught on
>>>> buckles of the other foot and caused one to trip and fall.  That was
>>>> the price for being cool.
>>>> 
>>>> These are the galoshes with buckles:
>>>> https://img1.etsystatic.com/030/0/7095118/il_570xN.627963011_q5xb.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> The term "rubbers", for rainwear, was used but rubbers just covered
>>>> the shoes.  Galoshes came up well above the ankles.  Adults wore
>>>> rubbers.
>>> 
>>> All the same in my childhood, except that "galoshes" was a word in books.
>>> We called them boots or snow boots.  I had rubbers for rain, which
>>> I didn't like, and boots for snow.
>>> 
>>> Also, there was no peer pressure against buckling boots.  The eastern
>>> suburbs of Cleveland get more snow than Indianapolis.
>> 
>> I have misled you if you've come away thinking there was peer pressure
>> involved.
>
> To me, "cool" when applied to clothing strongly implies what others will
> think, especially in an impersonal statement such as "it was not cool",
> but that may be just me.
>
>> It was strictly an independent decision of what would be
>> cool.  I'm not at all sure if anyone else paid attention to my
>> coolness or lack of it.  
>> 
>> Another word for "galoshes", by the way, was "overshoes".
>
> Another one I knew but didn't hear much.

For me, "overshoes" was what some call "rubbers", being used for the 
things one pulled on over shoes.

We had rainboots and galoshes, and I'm not sure what distinguished 
galoshes ... perhaps buckles, because rainboots didn't have them.  
Rubber boots was used for the grown-up ones with laces at the top, 
either olive drab or black (outside workers vs plumbers, I think).

And then there were the leather work boots, and the neatsfoot oil, or 
mink oil.  Some might call them timber cruisers.  Wolverine was a 
popular brand.

 Portland had at least 1 week of snow a year.  The rest of the time, we 
kept the webbing between our toes in good shape.

/dps

-- 
"What do you think of my cart, Miss Morland? A neat one, is not it? 
Well hung: curricle-hung in fact. Come sit by me and we'll test the 
springs."
(Speculative fiction by H.Lacedaemonian.)

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#577727

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-12-28 21:49 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-ndtdmEQPc9tY@localhost>
In reply to#577598
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 09:32:32 UTC, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> For me, "overshoes" was what some call "rubbers", being used for the 
> things one pulled on over shoes.

I take "overshoe" to be anything that is worn with shoes inside. 
That would include rubbers, galoshes, and those stretchy Totes 
boots, which are the best kind.

Apparently, if the OED is to be believed, those paper things that 
workmen put on over their boots before coming into the house are 
overshoes. I had always thought of overshoes as having to be made of
rubber and for outdoor use only.

OED:

orig. U.S.
 
  A shoe worn over an ordinary shoe, either to provide protection 
from wet, dirt, cold, etc., or to prevent damage to or soiling of 
the floor.

1770   L. Carter Diary 25 Jan. (1965) I. 350   The earth was as miry
as could possibly be. It was overshoes even to my little house in 
the hard gravel walks.

-- 
John Varela

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#577868

From"Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net>
Date2015-12-29 12:24 +0000
Message-ID<kgt48bp5k39btcf49uu2p87mk2fbgg5hlc@4ax.com>
In reply to#577727
On 28 Dec 2015 21:49:15 GMT, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 09:32:32 UTC, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> 
>wrote:
>
>> For me, "overshoes" was what some call "rubbers", being used for the 
>> things one pulled on over shoes.
>
>I take "overshoe" to be anything that is worn with shoes inside. 
>That would include rubbers, galoshes, and those stretchy Totes 
>boots, which are the best kind.
>
>Apparently, if the OED is to be believed, those paper things that 
>workmen put on over their boots before coming into the house are 
>overshoes. I had always thought of overshoes as having to be made of
>rubber and for outdoor use only.
>
I've had a look on Amazon UK for such things. The majority of those used
indoors are made of plastic and seem to be called "shoe covers". The
word "booties" is sometimes used.

Those descriptions are also used on Amazon US.
For instance:
http://www.amazon.com/Anti-Covers-Disposable-Paper-Booties/dp/B005VDEK1Q

    Anti Skid Shoe Covers Disposable Blue 100 Pc Paper Booties

The phrase "disposable overshoes" is also used.

>OED:
>
>orig. U.S.
> 
>  A shoe worn over an ordinary shoe, either to provide protection 
>from wet, dirt, cold, etc., or to prevent damage to or soiling of 
>the floor.
>
>1770   L. Carter Diary 25 Jan. (1965) I. 350   The earth was as miry
>as could possibly be. It was overshoes even to my little house in 
>the hard gravel walks.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

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#577086

Fromspuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com
Date2015-12-25 15:23 -0800
Message-ID<ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#577046
On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> > > ... rubbers. 
> > titters.
> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".

Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in inclement weather. 

Owain

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#577105

FromJanet <nobody@home.org>
Date2015-12-26 01:07 +0000
Message-ID<MPG.30e7f8ab2add010c944@news.individual.net>
In reply to#577086
In article <ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com>, 
spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com says...
> 
> On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> > > > ... rubbers. 
> > > titters.
> > I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
> 
> Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in inclement weather. 

   Galoshes are worn over shoes, wellies aren't. 

  Janet UK

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#577108

FromTony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-25 20:38 -0500
Message-ID<ojrr7bddaqp358uehku2k6ckhfhvpc9e8g@4ax.com>
In reply to#577105
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:07:33 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.org> wrote:

>In article <ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com>, 
>spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com says...
>> 
>> On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>> > > > ... rubbers. 
>> > > titters.
>> > I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
>> 
>> Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in inclement weather. 
>
>   Galoshes are worn over shoes, wellies aren't. 
>
>  Janet UK

If wellies were ever popular in the US before, say, 2000, the
popularity never made it to Indiana.  Small children wore boots like
that, but not older children or adults.

To this day, to buy that style of boot in this area one has to go to a
marine store.  The wellie style is considered a fishing boat boot.

While you are correct that galoshes were worn over shoes, the
practical side was that when we outgrew our galoshes over shoes we
would then wear them without shoes and carry our shoes.  Things
weren't replaced as readily then.  


-- 
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

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#577340

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-12-26 22:57 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-QorW0K9V7b3V@localhost>
In reply to#577108
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:38:37 UTC, Tony Cooper 
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:07:33 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.org> wrote:
> 
> >In article <ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com>, 
> >spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com says...
> >> 
> >> On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> >> > > > ... rubbers. 
> >> > > titters.
> >> > I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
> >> 
> >> Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in inclement weather. 
> >
> >   Galoshes are worn over shoes, wellies aren't. 
> >
> >  Janet UK
> 
> If wellies were ever popular in the US before, say, 2000, the
> popularity never made it to Indiana.  Small children wore boots like
> that, but not older children or adults.
> 
> To this day, to buy that style of boot in this area one has to go to a
> marine store.  The wellie style is considered a fishing boat boot.
> 
> While you are correct that galoshes were worn over shoes, the
> practical side was that when we outgrew our galoshes over shoes we
> would then wear them without shoes and carry our shoes.  Things
> weren't replaced as readily then.  

You are talking about WWII, when things made of rubber were hard to 
get? As a boy I never wore any kind of rubber overshoe. It doesn't 
snow in New Orleans, and one just learns to tolerate the torrential 
rains.

This thread has informed me that "galoshes" are what I learned in 
Boston to wear and to call "snow boots". Until now I thought 
galoshes were any kind of rubber overshoe.

-- 
John Varela

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#577343

FromTony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-26 18:11 -0500
Message-ID<cc7u7bhn0gjjv5d6klk4msdqhk4clm857s@4ax.com>
In reply to#577340
On 26 Dec 2015 22:57:55 GMT, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:38:37 UTC, Tony Cooper 
><tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:07:33 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.org> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com>, 
>> >spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com says...
>> >> 
>> >> On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>> >> > > > ... rubbers. 
>> >> > > titters.
>> >> > I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
>> >> 
>> >> Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in inclement weather. 
>> >
>> >   Galoshes are worn over shoes, wellies aren't. 
>> >
>> >  Janet UK
>> 
>> If wellies were ever popular in the US before, say, 2000, the
>> popularity never made it to Indiana.  Small children wore boots like
>> that, but not older children or adults.
>> 
>> To this day, to buy that style of boot in this area one has to go to a
>> marine store.  The wellie style is considered a fishing boat boot.
>> 
>> While you are correct that galoshes were worn over shoes, the
>> practical side was that when we outgrew our galoshes over shoes we
>> would then wear them without shoes and carry our shoes.  Things
>> weren't replaced as readily then.  
>
>You are talking about WWII, when things made of rubber were hard to 
>get? 

It was really more that my family didn't just run out and buy new
things that easily.  We made do.  

>As a boy I never wore any kind of rubber overshoe. It doesn't 
>snow in New Orleans, and one just learns to tolerate the torrential 
>rains.
>
>This thread has informed me that "galoshes" are what I learned in 
>Boston to wear and to call "snow boots". Until now I thought 
>galoshes were any kind of rubber overshoe.

They are rubber overshoes.
https://img0.etsystatic.com/022/0/5427515/il_570xN.477907114_24d0.jpg



-- 
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

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#577396

FromGordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com>
Date2015-12-27 11:02 +0000
Message-ID<de9uptFi5q1U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#577105
On 26/12/2015 01:07, Janet wrote:
> In article <ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com>,
> spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com says...
>>
>> On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>>>>> ... rubbers.
>>>> titters.
>>> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
>>
>> Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in inclement weather.
>
>     Galoshes are worn over shoes, wellies aren't.
>
>    Janet UK
>

Tying into the Christmas cracker joke thread, "Galosh!" is what a
surprised wellington says.
-- 
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

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#577484

Frombill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca>
Date2015-12-27 11:55 -0800
Message-ID<billvan-C7C1B8.11551127122015@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>
In reply to#577396
In article <de9uptFi5q1U2@mid.individual.net>,
 GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 26/12/2015 01:07, Janet wrote:
> > In article <ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com>,
> > spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com says...
> >>
> >> On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> >>>>> ... rubbers.
> >>>> titters.
> >>> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".
> >>
> >> Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in 
> >> inclement weather.
> >
> >     Galoshes are worn over shoes, wellies aren't.
> >
> >    Janet UK
> 
> Tying into the Christmas cracker joke thread, "Galosh!" is what a
> surprised wellington says.

When dining out, never order the beef Galosh.
-- 
bill

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#577123

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-12-26 04:28 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn7s5vc.tfv.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#577086
In message <ab806bde-fa98-4f9f-8315-0bd52727649e@googlegroups.com> 
  spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com <spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 25 December 2015 19:03:32 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>> > > ... rubbers. 
>> > titters.
>> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".

> Is *that* what you meant? We would wear wellington boots (wellies) in inclement weather. 

Not the same thing. Wellingtons are boots, Galoshes are rubber things
you wear over shoes.

-- 
"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the word you first
thought of." - Burt Bacharach

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#577113

FromRH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net>
Date2015-12-25 19:34 -0700
Message-ID<n5kuej01u3i@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#577046
On 12/25/2015 12:03 PM, John Varela wrote:
>
> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".

Prepare for a life-altering experience:

   https://youtu.be/0uuCNAwXGaQ

....r

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#577225

FromCharles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net>
Date2015-12-26 09:49 -0800
Message-ID<ctbishop-794D30.09490426122015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#577046
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-dZ1YGotB9iXt@localhost>,
 "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
> > > ... rubbers. 
> > 
> > titters.
> 
> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".

I give you a late Christmas present of Calvin and Hobbes

http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2012/01/28

[snip]

-- 
charles

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#577399

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>
Date2015-12-27 12:34 +0100
Message-ID<dea0luFitcsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#577046
On 2015-12-25 19:03:30 +0000, John Varela said:

> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:47:26 UTC, spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 02:31:11 UTC, John Varela  wrote:
>>> ... rubbers.
>> 
>> titters.
> 
> I do not now nor have I ever used the word "galoshes".

"Galoshless is foolishness, when sharply slants the sleet" (Paul 
Jennings, The Jenguin Pennings)
> 
>> My flat has a vestibule. It's the gap between the outer front door and 
>> the inner front door, where the electric meter lives.
>> 
>> Owain


-- 
athel

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