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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700 |
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Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-02 20:01 -0300
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 09:27 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0000
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:15 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:03 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 12:59 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 04:20 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 16:03 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:35 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 18:08 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 10:01 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-08 09:02 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:11 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 17:29 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-08 17:09 -0300
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-09 08:37 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 15:39 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-11 17:52 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 11:45 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 12:24 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-12 10:15 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 02:45 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-12 12:54 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-13 00:02 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-12 19:12 +0100
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 10:38 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:37 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 16:26 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-18 12:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:17 -0600
Re: Super Intelligence Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-10-19 11:26 +1300
Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:49 -0600
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-19 13:02 +1100
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:49 +1100
Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 17:17 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 19:02 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:12 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-09 09:27 +1300
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:16 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:29 +1100
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:22 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence squalk <sq@net.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:17 +0100
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:43 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:26 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-08 11:00 +1300
Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-09-30 12:23 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:22 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0100
Re: Super Intelligence Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-02 09:21 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-10-01 22:52 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:47 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-02 20:37 +1000
Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:21 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:06 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:53 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2026-10-07 02:55 -0400
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:08 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-07 23:04 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-08 10:21 +1100
Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 20:13 -0700
Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 08:24 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-08 11:44 +0200
Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-08 22:34 +1100
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:13 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-08 17:01 -0300
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:55 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-08 21:59 -0400
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 10:20 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-25 15:19 +0000
Re: Super Intelligence Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-08 14:12 -0400
Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:57 +0800
Re: Super Intelligence Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 18:10 -0400
Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:32 -0700
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 17:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <aw2dndnPo7w0r1X3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1152021 |
On 10/08/2026 04:49 PM, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/? > > Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means > "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which > makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing > our kill files. > No, Trump, the festering idiot, didn't coin "superintelligence", where there's basically a book called "Superintelligence" with the likes of George Anas about "ethics of superintelligence" which I'm quite sure he never read. "Journal of Science Fiction and Philosophy" -- https://jsfphil.org/ https://omnia.sas.upenn.edu/story/science-fiction-and-philosophy Giant Haircut Trump, that criminal, the other day said that anybody who didn't change their vocabulary was, in all upper-case, "THE ENEMY". Bad idea. Terrorists, then traitors, then truants: looking more like train-wreck.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <HBXxS.10404$mPXe.500@fx06.ams4> |
| In reply to | #1152021 |
On 10/9/2026 7:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote: > On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/? > > Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means > "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which > makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing > our kill files. > Sorry about that. I guess I was slightly bored. I'll try not to reply to /the idiot/ much more. -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 19:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <TJOcnSn_lrnT1lX3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1152027 |
On 10/08/2026 06:39 PM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > On 10/9/2026 7:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote: >> On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> >>> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/? >> >> Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means >> "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which >> makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing >> our kill files. >> > > Sorry about that. I guess I was slightly bored. I'll try not to reply > to /the idiot/ much more. Stuporintelligence
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 20:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC85B90.2396@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1152027 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > On 10/9/2026 7:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote: > > On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > > >> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/? > > > > Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means > > "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which > > makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing > > our kill files. > > > > Sorry about that. I guess I was slightly bored. I'll try not to reply > to /the idiot/ much more. Sorry, I didn't know this was a moderated newsgroup. I only post to ummoderated newsgroups. Let me double check this newsgroup:alt.usage.english, strange...it appears to me to be a unmoderated newsgroup. Do you have one of those unauthorized moderatos here???? FUCK HIM!!!! Tell him I said "Go fuck your mother!" You know, I think I might have to take over this newsgroup:,alt.usage.english, IT'S MINE! I OWN IT!! If you post to: ,alt.usage.english, it's only because I ALLOW IT! From now on, everybody in ,alt.usage.english, is going to have to learn how to speak English! I will be checking everybodys speling...so watch out! > -- > Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ > I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com > https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; > Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 09:27 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <11a8ubg$6gqt$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1151964 |
On 2026-10-08 07:02:30 +0000, occam said: > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>>> >>> >>> <snip> >>> >> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I >> go about that in the first place? > > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. Mine too. :-)
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 20:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC85C88.44F2@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1152011 |
Your Name wrote: > > On 2026-10-08 07:02:30 +0000, occam said: > > > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > >>>> > >>> > >>> <snip> > >>> > >> > >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > >> go about that in the first place? > > > > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. > > Mine too. :-) What's your name? Do you have a tattoo with your name on it? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 10:29 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <11a990o$a75h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1151964 |
On 08/10/26 18:02, occam wrote: > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How >> do I go about that in the first place? > > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning. Thanks for the reminder. Bush fire season is starting early this year, and promises to be worse than ever before. At least weather patterns leak only slowly across the equator. Canada and Europe have paid heavily for Trump's failure to slow down climate change. The main risk to us comes from El Niño and data centres. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 20:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC85DFF.54A6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1152020 |
Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> On 08/10/26 18:02, occam wrote:
> > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>
> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How
> >> do I go about that in the first place?
> >
> > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
>
> Thanks for the reminder. Bush fire season is starting early this year,
> and promises to be worse than ever before.
>
> At least weather patterns leak only slowly across the equator. Canada
> and Europe have paid heavily for Trump's failure to slow down climate
> change. The main risk to us comes from El Niño and data centres.
>
> --
> Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
> Newcastle, NSW
Oh, he'a also a weatherman here...it'11 be cold and
overcast, high today in the low
30's, dropping to the low 20's
tonight, but I'm predicting that
all that moisture coming up from
the Gulf is going to miss us and
dump some locally heavy snow,
possibly blizzard conditions with
travel advisories in the
Harrisburg area and maybe as far
east as Philadelphia.
I get it, Peter Moyan thinks he's GOD!
you think i can convince Peter to give me a brain???
i leave in El Lay, wats the chance of rain tonight?
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | squalk <sq@net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 20:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cSCdnZ8FoLfxcVr3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1151938 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>> >> >> <snip> >> >>> >>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it >>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? >> >> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. >> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> >> >> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. >> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work >> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial >> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex >> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological >> processes." >> >> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic >> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; >> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. >> >> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. >> The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they >> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only >> better, quicker and cheaper. > > So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > go about that in the first place? ==================================== Use your head.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 04:43 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <cgTxS.11568$AQqd.7842@fx11.ams4> |
| In reply to | #1152006 |
On 10/9/2026 3:17 AM, squalk wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >>>> >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>> >>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you >>>> think it >>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? >>> >>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. >>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> >>> >>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. >>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work >>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial >>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex >>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological >>> processes." >>> >>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic >>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; >>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. >>> >>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. >>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they >>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only >>> better, quicker and cheaper. >> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I >> go about that in the first place? > > ==================================== > > Use your head. As previously discussed here in alt.usage.english, the /head/ is a loo on a naval ship. And I lack one of those. You're free to use the head in your very own naval ship, of course; I presume you paid for it out of your own pocket, after all. Now, If you pay attention to the /context/, I was asking occam what hap- pens when a human needs to do something the A.I. cannot? Because if I read this correctly, occam is trying to claim that the A.I. can just do everything, given the right prompts. I disagree. And I disagree so vehemently, I bought myself a bookshelf of cryptographic books, and another of compiler literature. You can see the pictures on my BlueSky account, linked below. So, squalk, how much do you put your money where your mouth is, and can you show us pictures of the library you presumably have in your very own naval ship? In other words, how much do you use your own /head/? -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 20:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC85EF4.2627@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1152014 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > > On 10/9/2026 3:17 AM, squalk wrote: > > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote: > >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: > >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: > >>>> > >>> > >>> <snip> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you > >>>> think it > >>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? > >>> > >>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. > >>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> > >>> > >>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. > >>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work > >>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial > >>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex > >>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological > >>> processes." > >>> > >>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic > >>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; > >>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. > >>> > >>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. > >>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they > >>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only > >>> better, quicker and cheaper. > >> > >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do? How do I > >> go about that in the first place? > > > > ==================================== > > > > Use your head. > > As previously discussed here in alt.usage.english, the /head/ is a loo > on a naval ship. And I lack one of those. You're free to use the head > in your very own naval ship, of course; I presume you paid for it out of > your own pocket, after all. > > Now, If you pay attention to the /context/, I was asking occam what hap- > pens when a human needs to do something the A.I. cannot? Because if I > read this correctly, occam is trying to claim that the A.I. can just do > everything, given the right prompts. > > I disagree. And I disagree so vehemently, I bought myself a bookshelf > of cryptographic books, and another of compiler literature. You can see > the pictures on my BlueSky account, linked below. > > So, squalk, how much do you put your money where your mouth is, and can > you show us pictures of the library you presumably have in your very own > naval ship? In other words, how much do you use your own /head/? You can always ask a girl to give you head. i rather have a girl give me head instead of using my own head. > -- > Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ > I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com > https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:; > Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 11:00 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <11a6fdh$39e5f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1151932 |
On 2026-10-07 15:15:13 +0000, occam said: > On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote: >> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes: >> > > <snip> > >> >> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it >> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good? > > It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around. > <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/> > > If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2. > "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work > in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial > intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex > structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological > processes." > > The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic > coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos; > made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc. > > The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational. > The reason why most journalist like to criticize AI is because they > feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only > better, quicker and cheaper. ... and with far more errors, that actual people then have to fix. :-p
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| From | Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 12:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119inuc$4iru$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1151586 |
guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > irrationality? > Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 17:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni7c5bFtckjU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1151599 |
On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > irrationality? > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. What about REAL stupidity? -- Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. - Julius Caesar
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| From | Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 20:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <fcyvS.5$a1bf.0@fx02.ams1> |
| In reply to | #1151629 |
On 01/10/2026 16:22, s|b wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > >> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: >> >>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? >>> >>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >>> irrationality? > >> Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > What about REAL stupidity? > Like this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx2z23xj555o "Trump's AI rebrand causes 'unprecedented' demand for Slovenian website names" -- Sam Plusnet
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| From | Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 09:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119nm1r$1sajm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1151643 |
Den 01.10.2026 kl. 21.07 skrev Sam Plusnet: > On 01/10/2026 16:22, s|b wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: >> >>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: >>> >>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? >>>> >>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >>>> irrationality? >> >>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO. >> >> What about REAL stupidity? >> > Like this? > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx2z23xj555o > > "Trump's AI rebrand causes 'unprecedented' demand for Slovenian website > names" Has there been a run on domains from Anguilla? -- Bertel, Kolt, Danmark
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| From | Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 22:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119mh62$1hre2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1151629 |
s|b hat am 01.10.2026 um 17:22 geschrieben: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > >> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: >> >>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: >>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? >>> >>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human >>> irrationality? > >> Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > What about REAL stupidity? Much less dangerous than artificial stupidity. Most people recognise real stupidity, but a lot of people don't recognise artificial stupidity or even think AI must be cleverer in ways they cannot fathom.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6ABF4089.72DB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1151629 |
s|b wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > > irrationality? > > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > What about REAL stupidity? dat would be Kamala Harris Kaka Mala. > > -- > Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. > - Julius Caesar -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni9rfkFaeb4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1151663 |
On Thu, 01 Oct 2026 22:26:33 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > s|b wrote: > > > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > > > > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > > > > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > > > irrationality? > > > > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > > > What about REAL stupidity? > dat would be Kamala Harris The woman that warned that Drumpf is a fascist and that he would put the US in an economic depression if he were to be chosen again? That Kamala Harris? > Kaka Mala. Thank you for this example of real stupidity. -- Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. - Julius Caesar
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-03 12:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6AC15BDF.1413@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1151688 |
s|b wrote: > > On Thu, 01 Oct 2026 22:26:33 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > s|b wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote: > > > > > > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben: > > > > > > > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker: > > > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me? > > > > > > > > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human > > > > > irrationality? > > > > > > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO. > > > > > > What about REAL stupidity? > > > dat would be Kamala Harris > > The woman that warned that Drumpf is a fascist and that he would put the > US in an economic depression if he were to be chosen again? That Kamala > Harris? > > > Kaka Mala. > > Thank you for this example of real stupidity. > > -- > Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. > - Julius Caesar Does Kamala Harris speaks ...English???? i mean does she usage english?? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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