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UK Love Is Blind

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First post2026-09-14 21:47 -0700
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  UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-14 21:47 -0700
    Re: UK Love Is Blind Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-09-15 16:51 +0200
      Re: UK Love Is Blind athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-15 16:33 +0000
        Re: UK Love Is Blind Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-09-15 19:30 +0100
        Re: UK Love Is Blind nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-09-16 21:42 +0200
      Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-15 11:32 -0700
        Re: UK Love Is Blind "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-16 03:34 +0800
          Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-15 15:11 -0700
          Re: UK Love Is Blind Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-16 09:29 +1000
      Re: UK Love Is Blind athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-16 16:35 +0000
        Re: UK Love Is Blind richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-09-16 16:54 +0000
        Re: UK Love Is Blind "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-09-16 21:33 +0100
          Re: UK Love Is Blind Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-09-17 07:21 +0100
            Re: UK Love Is Blind "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-09-17 09:18 +0000
              Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:07 -0700
        Re: UK Love Is Blind Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-09-17 06:28 +0200
          Re: UK Love Is Blind Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-09-17 08:13 +0200
            Re: UK Love Is Blind Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-09-17 07:25 +0100
              Re: UK Love Is Blind Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-09-17 11:03 +0200
                Re: UK Love Is Blind Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-09-17 12:36 +0100
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 15:53 -0400
                    Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:26 -0700
                      Re: UK Love Is Blind Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-21 10:05 +1000
                        Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 19:38 -0700
                        Re: UK Love Is Blind "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-21 20:25 +0200
                          Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-21 14:40 -0700
                            Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-21 15:16 -0700
                            Re: UK Love Is Blind Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-09-22 02:25 +0200
                              Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-21 20:57 -0700
                                Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-21 21:14 -0700
                              Re: UK Love Is Blind Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-09-22 08:02 +0200
                                Re: UK Love Is Blind Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-09-22 08:18 +0100
                                  Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-22 00:44 -0700
                                    Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-22 01:02 -0700
                                  Re: UK Love Is Blind Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-09-22 19:07 +0100
                                    Re: UK Love Is Blind Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-23 09:38 +1000
                                      Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-22 20:17 -0700
                                      Re: UK Love Is Blind Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-09-23 07:30 +0200
                                Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-22 00:42 -0700
                                  Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-22 00:47 -0700
                                Re: UK Love Is Blind Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-09-22 11:11 +0200
                                  Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-22 11:11 -0700
                        Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-21 14:27 -0700
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 16:00 -0700
                    Re: UK Love Is Blind Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-09-18 10:37 -0400
                      Re: UK Love Is Blind Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 10:15 -0700
                      Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:32 -0700
                    Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:28 -0700
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:23 -0700
                Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:21 -0700
              Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:16 -0700
            Re: UK Love Is Blind Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-09-17 09:10 +0200
              Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:36 -0700
            Re: UK Love Is Blind Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-17 17:27 +1000
              Re: UK Love Is Blind HVS <office@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> - 2026-09-17 12:59 +0100
              Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:39 -0700
            Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:14 -0700
          Re: UK Love Is Blind athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:06 +0000
            Re: UK Love Is Blind Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-09-18 10:00 +0200
              Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:44 -0700
          Re: UK Love Is Blind richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-09-17 18:37 +0000
            Re: UK Love Is Blind Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-17 20:15 +0000
              Re: UK Love Is Blind Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-09-18 12:02 +0200
                Re: UK Love Is Blind Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-18 20:41 +1000
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-09-18 12:56 +0200
                    Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:11 -0700
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:06 -0700
                Re: UK Love Is Blind Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-18 13:45 +0000
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:20 -0700
                Re: UK Love Is Blind Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-09-18 20:00 +0100
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-09-18 23:24 +0200
                    Re: UK Love Is Blind Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-09-19 14:14 +0100
                      Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:18 -0700
                    Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:16 -0700
                  Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:13 -0700
                Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:04 -0700
              Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 01:03 -0700
            Re: UK Love Is Blind Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-09-18 10:03 +0200
            Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:59 -0700
          Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:10 -0700
        Re: UK Love Is Blind The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-20 00:04 -0700

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#1150860

Fromrichard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin)
Date2026-09-17 18:37 +0000
Message-ID<118hc19$pfv$1@artemis.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#1150806
In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>>I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
>>referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.

>That was before Brexit. 
>
>In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain. 

Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.

Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
non-member England.

Several EU countries have regions with independence movements and as
a result would have been strongly opposed to an independent Scotland
automatically being a member even before Brexit - they don't want
(for example) Catalonia to think it would work.

-- Richard

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#1150867

FromCharles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk>
Date2026-09-17 20:15 +0000
Message-ID<j9utnm-ih69.ln1@newsauth.orpheusnet.co.uk>
In reply to#1150860
On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> 
>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> 
>> That was before Brexit.
>>
>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> 
> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> 
> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> non-member England.

and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> Several EU countries have regions with independence movements and as
> a result would have been strongly opposed to an independent Scotland
> automatically being a member even before Brexit - they don't want
> (for example) Catalonia to think it would work.
> 
> -- Richard

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#1150908

FromSilvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it>
Date2026-09-18 12:02 +0200
Message-ID<118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1150867
Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
>> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
>> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
>>
>>> That was before Brexit.
>>>
>>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
>>
>> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
>>
>> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
>> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
>> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
>> non-member England.
> 
> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>


I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
to Northern Ireland?

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#1150910

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Date2026-09-18 20:41 +1000
Message-ID<118j4hk$16l3e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1150908
On 18/09/26 20:02, Silvano wrote:
> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:

>>> But now Scotland would have to apply to
>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
>>> non-member England.
>>
>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
>
> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> to Northern Ireland?

Walking would be difficult; but if you're a good swimmer it's only 19 km.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1150911

FromSilvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it>
Date2026-09-18 12:56 +0200
Message-ID<118j5d4$16v1i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1150910
Peter Moylan hat am 18.09.2026 um 12:41 geschrieben:
> On 18/09/26 20:02, Silvano wrote:
>> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
>>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> 
>>>> But now Scotland would have to apply to
>>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
>>>> non-member England.
>>>
>>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
>>
>> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
>> to Northern Ireland?
> 
> Walking would be difficult; but if you're a good swimmer it's only 19 km.


Boats and ships start from and arrive in havens, unless they're
smuggling things. I'm thinking about wares subject to customs or
controls in order to respect the EU and UK regulations.

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#1151055

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:11 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF9519.460C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150911
Silvano wrote:
> 
> Peter Moylan hat am 18.09.2026 um 12:41 geschrieben:
> > On 18/09/26 20:02, Silvano wrote:
> >> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> >>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> >
> >>>> But now Scotland would have to apply to
> >>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> >>>> non-member England.
> >>>
> >>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> >>
> >> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> >> to Northern Ireland?
> >
> > Walking would be difficult; but if you're a good swimmer it's only 19 km.
> 
> Boats and ships start from and arrive in havens, unless they're
> smuggling things. I'm thinking about wares subject to customs or
> controls in order to respect the EU and UK regulations.

is a havens a boat?

wat language are yous people speaking? alt.usage.afganastan????

EU, UK, FU, ZU must all read Webster's Dictionary!


It's color, not colour.


get it right.




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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151053

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:06 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF93F4.69B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150910
Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
> On 18/09/26 20:02, Silvano wrote:
> > Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> >> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> 
> >>> But now Scotland would have to apply to
> >>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> >>> non-member England.
> >>
> >> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> >
> > I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> > to Northern Ireland?
> 
> Walking would be difficult; but if you're a good swimmer it's only 19 km.

km??? oh oh, i don't know my killowatts.


is dat kilts per mile?



> 
> --
> Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
> Newcastle, NSW

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1150925

FromCharles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk>
Date2026-09-18 13:45 +0000
Message-ID<alrvnm-4kk9.ln1@newsauth.orpheusnet.co.uk>
In reply to#1150908
On 18/09/2026 11:02, Silvano wrote:
> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
>>> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
>>> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
>>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
>>>
>>>> That was before Brexit.
>>>>
>>>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
>>>
>>> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
>>>
>>> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
>>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
>>> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
>>> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
>>> non-member England.
>>
>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> 
> 
> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> to Northern Ireland?

perfectly good ferries.

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#1151060

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:20 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF9750.21AA@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150925
Charles Hope wrote:
> 
> On 18/09/2026 11:02, Silvano wrote:
> > Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> >> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> >>> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> >>> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> >>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> >>>
> >>>> That was before Brexit.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> >>>
> >>> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> >>>
> >>> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> >>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> >>> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> >>> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> >>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> >>> non-member England.
> >>
> >> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> >
> >
> > I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> > to Northern Ireland?
> 
> perfectly good ferries.



you mean to tell me yous got more than one ferry??? 




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#1150943

FromJanet <nobody@home.com>
Date2026-09-18 20:00 +0100
Message-ID<MPG.45179aa865de8a0f989724@news.individual.net>
In reply to#1150908
In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>, 
Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
> 
> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> > On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> >> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> >> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> >>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> >>
> >>> That was before Brexit.
> >>>
> >>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> >>
> >> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> >>
> >> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> >> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> >> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> >> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> >> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> >> non-member England.
> > 
> > and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> 
> 
> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> to Northern Ireland?

  You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to 
Larne or Belfast. 

  Janet

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#1150948

FromSilvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it>
Date2026-09-18 23:24 +0200
Message-ID<118ka5u$1m855$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1150943
Janet hat am 18.09.2026 um 21:00 geschrieben:
> In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>, 
> Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
>>
>> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
>>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
>>>> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
>>>> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
>>>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
>>>>
>>>>> That was before Brexit.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
>>>>
>>>> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
>>>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
>>>> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
>>>> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
>>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
>>>> non-member England.
>>>
>>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
>>
>>
>> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
>> to Northern Ireland?
> 
>   You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to 
> Larne or Belfast. 

Of course, now, without crossing any borders. Do you think there will be
no "strange border" or a border with checks like in Dover between
Scotland and Northern Ireland, when either one leaves the Disunited
Kingdom? Can you tell us how it will work?

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#1150994

FromJanet <nobody@home.com>
Date2026-09-19 14:14 +0100
Message-ID<MPG.451865043352427989725@news.individual.net>
In reply to#1150948
In article <118ka5u$1m855$1@dont-email.me>, 
Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
> 
> Janet hat am 18.09.2026 um 21:00 geschrieben:
> > In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>, 
> > Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
> >>
> >> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> >>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> >>>> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> >>>> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> >>>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> >>>>
> >>>>> That was before Brexit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> >>>>
> >>>> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> >>>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> >>>> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> >>>> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> >>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> >>>> non-member England.
> >>>
> >>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> >>
> >>
> >> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> >> to Northern Ireland?
> > 
> >   You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to 
> > Larne or Belfast. 
> 
> Of course, now, without crossing any borders. Do you think there will be
> no "strange border" or a border with checks like in Dover between
> Scotland and Northern Ireland, when either one leaves the Disunited
> Kingdom? Can you tell us how it will work?

      Presumably  it would work the same way as Northern Ireland's 
border with Eire.

      I doubt the SNP will seek another  Independence referendum. 

      Janet

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#1151059

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:18 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF96EB.695B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150994
Janet wrote:
> 
> In article <118ka5u$1m855$1@dont-email.me>,
> Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
> >
> > Janet hat am 18.09.2026 um 21:00 geschrieben:
> > > In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>,
> > > Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
> > >>
> > >> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> > >>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> > >>>> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> > >>>> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> > >>>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> That was before Brexit.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> > >>>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> > >>>> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> > >>>> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> > >>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> > >>>> non-member England.
> > >>>
> > >>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> > >> to Northern Ireland?
> > >
> > >   You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to
> > > Larne or Belfast.
> >
> > Of course, now, without crossing any borders. Do you think there will be
> > no "strange border" or a border with checks like in Dover between
> > Scotland and Northern Ireland, when either one leaves the Disunited
> > Kingdom? Can you tell us how it will work?
> 
>       Presumably  it would work the same way as Northern Ireland's
> border with Eire.
> 
>       I doubt the SNP will seek another  Independence referendum.
> 
>       Janet

"Eire"???? i hurt my throat again!

i before e except after c




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#1151058

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:16 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF964F.7BED@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150948
Silvano wrote:
> 
> Janet hat am 18.09.2026 um 21:00 geschrieben:
> > In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>,
> > Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
> >>
> >> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> >>> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> >>>> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> >>>> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> >>>>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> >>>>
> >>>>> That was before Brexit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> >>>>
> >>>> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> >>>> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> >>>> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> >>>> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> >>>> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> >>>> non-member England.
> >>>
> >>> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> >>
> >>
> >> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> >> to Northern Ireland?
> >
> >   You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to
> > Larne or Belfast.
> 
> Of course, now, without crossing any borders. Do you think there will be
> no "strange border" or a border with checks like in Dover between
> Scotland and Northern Ireland, when either one leaves the Disunited
> Kingdom? Can you tell us how it will work?


I think I hurt my throat reading dis..

"Disunited Kingdom"??? is dat a train station?

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#1151056

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:13 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF95A8.65DE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150943
Janet wrote:
> 
> In article <118j28e$15oqd$1@dont-email.me>,
> Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it says...
> >
> > Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> > > On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> > >> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> > >> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> > >>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> > >>
> > >>> That was before Brexit.
> > >>>
> > >>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> > >>
> > >> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> > >>
> > >> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> > >> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> > >> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> > >> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> > >> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> > >> non-member England.
> > >
> > > and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> >
> >
> > I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> > to Northern Ireland?
> 
>   You can walk or drive onto the ferry at Cairnryan, which takes you to
> Larne or Belfast.
> 
>   Janet

I saw a ferry once..

a longggggg time ago.

Queens Ferry. in new yourk

bada bing, bada boom.



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#1151051

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:04 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF9391.4A5C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150908
Silvano wrote:
> 
> Charles Hope hat am 17.09.2026 um 20:15 geschrieben:
> > On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> >> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> >> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> >>>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> >>
> >>> That was before Brexit.
> >>>
> >>> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> >>
> >> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> >>
> >> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> >> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> >> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> >> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> >> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> >> non-member England.
> >
> > and a strange one with Northern Ireland>
> 
> I must be missing something. Where can you walk or drive from Scotland
> to Northern Ireland?

Maybe from Southern Ireland! 



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#1151050

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 01:03 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF933A.2D86@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150867
Charles Hope wrote:
> 
> On 17/09/2026 19:37, Richard Tobin wrote:
> > In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> > Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> >>> referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> >
> >> That was before Brexit.
> >>
> >> In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> >
> > Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> >
> > Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> > slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> > assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> > secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> > join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> > non-member England.
> 
> and a strange one with Northern Ireland>


How strange are those Southern Ireland people??? 


micks  dey call them? or they say the irish are the niggers of europe...


i'm still tryin to figure dat one out.


wat does it even mean?



> > Several EU countries have regions with independence movements and as
> > a result would have been strongly opposed to an independent Scotland
> > automatically being a member even before Brexit - they don't want
> > (for example) Catalonia to think it would work.
> >
> > -- Richard

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#1150896

FromSteve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Date2026-09-18 10:03 +0200
Message-ID<ntrpallccujn05gru7139dnnogee4n76q7@4ax.com>
In reply to#1150860
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 18:37:29 -0000 (UTC), richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

>In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
>Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
>>>I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
>>>referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
>
>>That was before Brexit. 
>>
>>In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain. 
>
>Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
>
>Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
>slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
>assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
>secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
>join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
>non-member England.

There was some talk of that right after the referendum, but before the
Brexit was finalised. 

>Several EU countries have regions with independence movements and as
>a result would have been strongly opposed to an independent Scotland
>automatically being a member even before Brexit - they don't want
>(for example) Catalonia to think it would work.

Perhaps that's why nothing came of it. 


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
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#1151048

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 00:59 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF9268.6CA4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150860
Richard Tobin wrote:
> 
> In article <1spmalhv6kpnoadn6ujv8qjm7aielfk4c3@4ax.com>,
> Steve Hayes  <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> 
> >>I think you're taking the SNP propaganda too seriously. They had the
> >>referendum they asked for in 2014, and convincingly lost.
> 
> >That was before Brexit.
> >
> >In the Brexit referendum the majority of Scots voted to remain.
> 
> Brexit has made Scottish independence much more difficult.
> 
> Since we joined the Common Market (later EU) in the 1970s the SNP's
> slogan was "independence in Europe" - an argument against the
> assertion that Scotland would be economically worse off and less
> secure separate from England.  But now Scotland would have to apply to
> join the EU, and if that was successful face a hard border with
> non-member England.
> 
> Several EU countries have regions with independence movements and as
> a result would have been strongly opposed to an independent Scotland
> automatically being a member even before Brexit - they don't want
> (for example) Catalonia to think it would work.
> 
> -- Richard


I think I saw a guy wearing a dress on his wedding day...what is a
scottish guy doing in  UK Love Is Blind???


These   Love Is Blind shows gots people coming from everywhere else
but...


I don't get it.

How is a UK guy suppose to meet a girl if she is from Brazil??? 

And every country   Love Is Blind gots too many chinks! 

I mean, what is chink girl doing in a  Italy Love Is Blind???

Do you know how scary people with slanted eyes look???

Poor girl picked a chink guy on Love Is Blind and freaked out when she
saw his ...eyes!!!!

SHE RAN THE OTHER DIRECTION!!

I feel so so sorry for her. dats abuse.

especially when all these chink guys gots little dicks!

dats why chink girls go for white guys..or any other color except
yellow.

I had sex with a chink girl years ago...i still have nightmares from it!

it's like having sex with a cat! 

And whose idea was it to make people with slanted eyes??? is it some
kind of joke?

fish face.

how am i suppose eat sardines?






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#1151030

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-20 00:10 -0700
Message-ID<6AAF86F6.B4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1150806
Steve Hayes wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 16:35:12 GMT, athel.cb@gmail.com
> <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >
> >Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> posted:
> >
> >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:47:33 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I thought UK was in England, but
> >> >it sounds like everyone is from France.
> >>
> >> No, you got that wrong.
> >
> >Well, yes he did. But what do you expect from The Starmaker?
> 
> I don't expect much in the way of geographical knowledge from anyone
> in the UK or US after watching numerous TV quiz shows.
> 
> Of course some people don't take kindly to correction, and even try to
> propagate false information. I still recall when PTD tried very hard
> to persuade me that El Paso, Illinois did not exist, despite my having
> some relatives who were born there and some that still lived there.


what kind op people believe El Paso, Illinois did not exist? blond
girls??





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