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Re: [OT] 44 countries

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Le 03/07/2026 à 08:09, Steve Hayes a écrit :
> athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is really off-topic, as it can be related to usage questions,
>> but it seems best to label it as OT.
>>
>> I see many answers on Quora to Americans who think that Europe is a country
>> asserting that in reality it is 44 countries. The 44 is quite consistent between
>> different people, but how do they arrive at 44? If I list all the countries
>> that are unambiguously European countries (Germany, Italy, Spain, Belgium etc.)
>> I arrive at 40, so which are the other 4?
>>
>> Russia and Turkey are both partially in Europe, but have large parts that are
>> not: do I count them?
>>
>> What about Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan? Are they in Europe? All three?
>>
>> What about Gibraltar? Is it a country? (I've counted the Vatican, but it's
>> not everyone's idea of a country. Andorra, Monaco, Liechtenstein and San
>> Marino obviously count.)
>>
>> What about Kosovo? Is it a country? Come to that, what about Abkhazia and
>> Transnistria?
>>
>> What about Malta, Cyprus and Iceland? Countries, yes, but are they in Europe?
> 
> England, Scotland, ?Ireland and wales? Man? Jersey, Guernsey?


Yes, what is a country? The UK is a country, and so are Scotland, 
England, Wales, and Ireland. Does that make five?

It might make more sense to talk about sovereign states ('sovereign' 
poses a problem if they're members of the EU, though).

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[OT] 44 countries athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-02 15:43 +0000
  Re: [OT] 44 countries wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 17:56 +0200
    Re: [OT] 44 countries wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 18:01 +0200
      Re: [OT] 44 countries athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-02 16:24 +0000
        Re: [OT] 44 countries Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 19:03 +0100
          Re: [OT] 44 countries Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-02 20:08 +0200
            Re: [OT] 44 countries athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-02 18:55 +0000
              Re: [OT] 44 countries Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-02 22:14 +0100
                Re: [OT] 44 countries wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-07-02 23:41 +0200
                Re: [OT] 44 countries msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2026-07-03 01:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] 44 countries Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-07-03 10:08 +0100
                Re: [OT] 44 countries nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:48 +0200
                Re: [OT] 44 countries Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-07-03 12:14 +0200
              Re: [OT] 44 countries nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:16 +0200
                Re: [OT] 44 countries "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-07-03 09:59 +0000
          Re: [OT] 44 countries occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-03 08:28 +0200
            Re: [OT] 44 countries Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-03 09:09 +0100
              Re: [OT] 44 countries "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-07-03 09:59 +0000
                Re: [OT] 44 countries Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-07-03 20:10 +0100
                Re: [OT] 44 countries Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-04 06:57 +0200
                Re: [OT] 44 countries occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-04 09:50 +0200
    Re: [OT] 44 countries occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-03 08:46 +0200
  Re: [OT] 44 countries occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-07-03 08:22 +0200
  Re: [OT] 44 countries Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-07-03 09:09 +0200
    Re: [OT] 44 countries Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-07-03 09:09 +0100
      Re: [OT] 44 countries nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 11:48 +0200
        Re: [OT] 44 countries Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-03 12:00 +0000
          Re: [OT] 44 countries nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 22:08 +0200
            Re: [OT] 44 countries Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-03 21:30 +0000
              Re: [OT] 44 countries nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-04 11:16 +0200
      Re: [OT] 44 countries "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-07-03 09:59 +0000
        Re: [OT] 44 countries nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-07-03 15:58 +0200
          Re: [OT] 44 countries athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-03 14:11 +0000

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