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| Started by | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-02-16 10:40 -0600 |
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Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 10:40 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-16 16:53 +0000
Re: Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 11:10 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 11:15 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 11:18 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-16 17:25 +0000
Re: Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 11:27 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-16 17:31 +0000
Re: Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 13:50 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-16 20:57 +0000
Re: Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 16:14 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-17 15:07 +0000
Re: Why AI is broken phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 09:09 -0600
Re: Why AI is broken jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-17 15:16 +0000
Re: Why AI is broken % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 14:08 -0700
| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 10:40 -0600 |
| Subject | Why AI is broken |
| Message-ID | <mvgvkkFevomU1@mid.individual.net> |
LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a talking point. AI don't know obscure. -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 16:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6c642d57-005e-21b4-5357-50861537b9bb@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #505385 |
phoenix wrote: > LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a talking > point. AI don't know obscure. you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, unfortunately. but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to give you 5 questions based on your framing.
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| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 11:10 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mvh1c0Ff8dpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #505388 |
jojo wrote: > phoenix wrote: >> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a talking >> point. AI don't know obscure. > > you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, unfortunately. > > but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to give you 5 > questions based on your framing. > Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's this or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner with my AI and fully correct them every time they make a mistake. -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 11:15 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mvh1l6Ff9jjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #505390 |
phoenix wrote: > jojo wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a talking >>> point. AI don't know obscure. >> >> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, unfortunately. >> >> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to give you >> 5 questions based on your framing. >> > Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on problems > with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's this or that, your > obscure solution is fundamentally powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner > with my AI and fully correct them every time they make a mistake. And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional array where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a fundamental slowdown that I refuse to tolerate rather getting my way to work by keeping one of the lists up to date on some stuff. -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 11:18 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mvh1rcFf9jjU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #505392 |
phoenix wrote: > phoenix wrote: >> jojo wrote: >>> phoenix wrote: >>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a talking >>>> point. AI don't know obscure. >>> >>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>> unfortunately. >>> >>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to give you >>> 5 questions based on your framing. >>> >> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on problems >> with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's this or that, your >> obscure solution is fundamentally powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner >> with my AI and fully correct them every time they make a mistake. > > And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional array > where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a fundamental slowdown > that I refuse to tolerate rather getting my way to work by keeping one > of the lists up to date on some stuff. In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I deal with big data. -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 17:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <159540c8-303c-677b-1aa0-597cb85ab6c1@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #505394 |
phoenix wrote: > phoenix wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> jojo wrote: >>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a >>>>> talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>> >>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>>> unfortunately. >>>> >>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to >>>> give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>> >>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on >>> problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's >>> this or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally >>> powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner with my AI and fully >>> correct them every time they make a mistake. >> >> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional >> array where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a >> fundamental slowdown that I refuse to tolerate rather getting >> my way to work by keeping one of the lists up to date on some >> stuff. > > In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I > don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I deal > with big data. you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont put the scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with.
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| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 11:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mvh2b5Ffe6mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #505395 |
jojo wrote: > phoenix wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> phoenix wrote: >>>> jojo wrote: >>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a talking >>>>>> point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>> >>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>>>> unfortunately. >>>>> >>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to give >>>>> you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>> >>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on >>>> problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's this or >>>> that, your obscure solution is fundamentally powerless. Maybe I need >>>> to be meaner with my AI and fully correct them every time they make >>>> a mistake. >>> >>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional array >>> where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a fundamental >>> slowdown that I refuse to tolerate rather getting my way to work by >>> keeping one of the lists up to date on some stuff. >> >> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I don't >> particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I deal with big >> data. > > you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont put the > scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. > > that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with. > It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more than anything, even correctness. -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 17:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <f9f1ad00-092e-cc82-d879-c7b3d94ff0ea@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #505397 |
phoenix wrote: > jojo wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> phoenix wrote: >>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a >>>>>>> talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>> >>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>>>>> unfortunately. >>>>>> >>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it >>>>>> to give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>> >>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working >>>>> on problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying >>>>> it's this or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally >>>>> powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner with my AI and fully >>>>> correct them every time they make a mistake. >>>> >>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a >>>> two-dimensional array where I have two one-dimensional >>>> arrays. This is a fundamental slowdown that I refuse to >>>> tolerate rather getting my way to work by keeping one of the >>>> lists up to date on some stuff. >>> >>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I >>> don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I >>> deal with big data. >> >> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont put >> the scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. >> >> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with. >> > It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more than > anything, even correctness. ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about what you think i mean.
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| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 13:50 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mvhanjFgof6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #505399 |
jojo wrote: > phoenix wrote: >> jojo wrote: >>> phoenix wrote: >>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a talking >>>>>>>> point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>>>>>> unfortunately. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to give >>>>>>> you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on >>>>>> problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's this >>>>>> or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally powerless. Maybe I >>>>>> need to be meaner with my AI and fully correct them every time >>>>>> they make a mistake. >>>>> >>>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional >>>>> array where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a >>>>> fundamental slowdown that I refuse to tolerate rather getting my >>>>> way to work by keeping one of the lists up to date on some stuff. >>>> >>>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I don't >>>> particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I deal with big >>>> data. >>> >>> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont put the >>> scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. >>> >>> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with. >>> >> It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more than >> anything, even correctness. > > ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about what you > think i mean. > People do the same thing. They'll sit there and present you with a solution that is ridiculous because of some insider information you have. I guess I'll tell these kinds of people something like, "Look bud, I told you that won't help. Are you listening to me?" -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 20:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <db1ef3d2-a322-c668-8dec-5caff8555a0a@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #505414 |
phoenix wrote: > jojo wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> jojo wrote: >>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a >>>>>>>>> talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont >>>>>>>> know, unfortunately. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it >>>>>>>> to give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working >>>>>>> on problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying >>>>>>> it's this or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally >>>>>>> powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner with my AI and fully >>>>>>> correct them every time they make a mistake. >>>>>> >>>>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a >>>>>> two-dimensional array where I have two one-dimensional >>>>>> arrays. This is a fundamental slowdown that I refuse to >>>>>> tolerate rather getting my way to work by keeping one of >>>>>> the lists up to date on some stuff. >>>>> >>>>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. >>>>> I don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because >>>>> I deal with big data. >>>> >>>> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont >>>> put the scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. >>>> >>>> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with. >>>> >>> It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more >>> than anything, even correctness. >> >> ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about >> what you think i mean. >> > People do the same thing. They'll sit there and present you with > a solution that is ridiculous because of some insider information > you have. I guess I'll tell these kinds of people something like, > "Look bud, I told you that won't help. Are you listening to me?" i guess its all YOU then. YOU dont want to have clarity but live in a grey zone of obsurity ambiguity. if you feel that is your safe zone, then fine. but to expect germination on air and mist is impossible.. unless you are an orchid.... or fungus.
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| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 16:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mvhj5eFi3j4U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #505418 |
jojo wrote: > phoenix wrote: >> jojo wrote: >>> phoenix wrote: >>>> jojo wrote: >>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a >>>>>>>>>> talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>>>>>>>> unfortunately. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to >>>>>>>>> give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on >>>>>>>> problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's this >>>>>>>> or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally powerless. Maybe >>>>>>>> I need to be meaner with my AI and fully correct them every time >>>>>>>> they make a mistake. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional >>>>>>> array where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a >>>>>>> fundamental slowdown that I refuse to tolerate rather getting my >>>>>>> way to work by keeping one of the lists up to date on some stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I >>>>>> don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I deal >>>>>> with big data. >>>>> >>>>> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont put the >>>>> scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. >>>>> >>>>> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with. >>>>> >>>> It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more than >>>> anything, even correctness. >>> >>> ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about what you >>> think i mean. >>> >> People do the same thing. They'll sit there and present you with a >> solution that is ridiculous because of some insider information you >> have. I guess I'll tell these kinds of people something like, "Look >> bud, I told you that won't help. Are you listening to me?" > > > i guess its all YOU then. YOU dont want to have clarity but live in a > grey zone of obsurity ambiguity. > > if you feel that is your safe zone, then fine. but to expect germination > on air and mist is impossible.. unless you are an orchid.... or fungus. > Oh no I wasn't talking about your solution being untenable. I guess if I were Brennus I would have worked that in and polished my charming piece of shit to hand you. -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2026-02-17 15:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9bbf6b66-3ef0-83c6-981d-ba1527dd41b5@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #505430 |
phoenix wrote: > jojo wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> jojo wrote: >>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is >>>>>>>>>>> a talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont >>>>>>>>>> know, unfortunately. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask >>>>>>>>>> it to give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been >>>>>>>>> working on problems with AI when they get fixed into a >>>>>>>>> rut saying it's this or that, your obscure solution is >>>>>>>>> fundamentally powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner with >>>>>>>>> my AI and fully correct them every time they make a >>>>>>>>> mistake. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a >>>>>>>> two-dimensional array where I have two one-dimensional >>>>>>>> arrays. This is a fundamental slowdown that I refuse to >>>>>>>> tolerate rather getting my way to work by keeping one of >>>>>>>> the lists up to date on some stuff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has >>>>>>> 2*N. I don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything >>>>>>> because I deal with big data. >>>>>> >>>>>> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont >>>>>> put the scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. >>>>>> >>>>>> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals >>>>>> with. >>>>>> >>>>> It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more >>>>> than anything, even correctness. >>>> >>>> ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about >>>> what you think i mean. >>>> >>> People do the same thing. They'll sit there and present you >>> with a solution that is ridiculous because of some insider >>> information you have. I guess I'll tell these kinds of people >>> something like, "Look bud, I told you that won't help. Are you >>> listening to me?" >> >> >> i guess its all YOU then. YOU dont want to have clarity but >> live in a grey zone of obsurity ambiguity. >> >> if you feel that is your safe zone, then fine. but to expect >> germination on air and mist is impossible.. unless you are an >> orchid.... or fungus. >> > > Oh no I wasn't talking about your solution being untenable. I > guess if I were Brennus I would have worked that in and polished > my charming piece of shit to hand you. > he is not in this thread tho. anyway, its fine.
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| From | phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-17 09:09 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mvjekoFrh02U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #505456 |
jojo wrote: > phoenix wrote: >> jojo wrote: >>> phoenix wrote: >>>> jojo wrote: >>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a >>>>>>>>>>>> talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to >>>>>>>>>>> give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on >>>>>>>>>> problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's >>>>>>>>>> this or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally >>>>>>>>>> powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner with my AI and fully >>>>>>>>>> correct them every time they make a mistake. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional >>>>>>>>> array where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a >>>>>>>>> fundamental slowdown that I refuse to tolerate rather getting >>>>>>>>> my way to work by keeping one of the lists up to date on some >>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I >>>>>>>> don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I >>>>>>>> deal with big data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont put >>>>>>> the scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with. >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more than >>>>>> anything, even correctness. >>>>> >>>>> ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about what >>>>> you think i mean. >>>>> >>>> People do the same thing. They'll sit there and present you with a >>>> solution that is ridiculous because of some insider information you >>>> have. I guess I'll tell these kinds of people something like, "Look >>>> bud, I told you that won't help. Are you listening to me?" >>> >>> >>> i guess its all YOU then. YOU dont want to have clarity but live in a >>> grey zone of obsurity ambiguity. >>> >>> if you feel that is your safe zone, then fine. but to expect >>> germination on air and mist is impossible.. unless you are an >>> orchid.... or fungus. >>> >> >> Oh no I wasn't talking about your solution being untenable. I guess if >> I were Brennus I would have worked that in and polished my charming >> piece of shit to hand you. >> > > he is not in this thread tho. anyway, its fine. > He started this stuff where he says nonsense in the third person directed @ me. I don't like when people around me act like looney tunes. -- pBkHHoOIIn8
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2026-02-17 15:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <476c899e-fec2-53ec-b670-609c1331b763@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #505459 |
phoenix wrote: > jojo wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> jojo wrote: >>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont >>>>>>>>>>>> know, unfortunately. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, >>>>>>>>>>>> ask it to give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been >>>>>>>>>>> working on problems with AI when they get fixed into a >>>>>>>>>>> rut saying it's this or that, your obscure solution is >>>>>>>>>>> fundamentally powerless. Maybe I need to be meaner >>>>>>>>>>> with my AI and fully correct them every time they make >>>>>>>>>>> a mistake. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a >>>>>>>>>> two-dimensional array where I have two one-dimensional >>>>>>>>>> arrays. This is a fundamental slowdown that I refuse to >>>>>>>>>> tolerate rather getting my way to work by keeping one >>>>>>>>>> of the lists up to date on some stuff. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has >>>>>>>>> 2*N. I don't particularly like N^2 complexity in >>>>>>>>> anything because I deal with big data. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you >>>>>>>> dont put the scissor on the paper and expect things to >>>>>>>> get cut. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals >>>>>>>> with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed >>>>>>> more than anything, even correctness. >>>>>> >>>>>> ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about >>>>>> what you think i mean. >>>>>> >>>>> People do the same thing. They'll sit there and present you >>>>> with a solution that is ridiculous because of some insider >>>>> information you have. I guess I'll tell these kinds of >>>>> people something like, "Look bud, I told you that won't >>>>> help. Are you listening to me?" >>>> >>>> >>>> i guess its all YOU then. YOU dont want to have clarity but >>>> live in a grey zone of obsurity ambiguity. >>>> >>>> if you feel that is your safe zone, then fine. but to expect >>>> germination on air and mist is impossible.. unless you are an >>>> orchid.... or fungus. >>>> >>> >>> Oh no I wasn't talking about your solution being untenable. I >>> guess if I were Brennus I would have worked that in and >>> polished my charming piece of shit to hand you. >>> >> >> he is not in this thread tho. anyway, its fine. >> > He started this stuff where he says nonsense in the third person > directed @ me. I don't like when people around me act like looney > tunes. you should talk to him in 3rd person as well, its a tactic you could try.
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-16 14:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fZqcnUANsPqhGg70nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #505414 |
phoenix wrote: > jojo wrote: >> phoenix wrote: >>> jojo wrote: >>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>> jojo wrote: >>>>>>>> phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>>> LLM read jojo over and over as if Hitlar's veganism is a >>>>>>>>> talking point. AI don't know obscure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you have to know what you are asking first. you dont know, >>>>>>>> unfortunately. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but you can ask the model to refine your question, ask it to >>>>>>>> give you 5 questions based on your framing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dude I use AI just as much as you. Twice I've been working on >>>>>>> problems with AI when they get fixed into a rut saying it's this >>>>>>> or that, your obscure solution is fundamentally powerless. Maybe >>>>>>> I need to be meaner with my AI and fully correct them every time >>>>>>> they make a mistake. >>>>>> >>>>>> And it's important too. The AI is suggesting a two-dimensional >>>>>> array where I have two one-dimensional arrays. This is a >>>>>> fundamental slowdown that I refuse to tolerate rather getting my >>>>>> way to work by keeping one of the lists up to date on some stuff. >>>>> >>>>> In jojo language this is N^2 data points where mine has 2*N. I >>>>> don't particularly like N^2 complexity in anything because I deal >>>>> with big data. >>>> >>>> you have to treat it like a tool, like a scissor. you dont put the >>>> scissor on the paper and expect things to get cut. >>>> >>>> that is what the whole domain of prompt engineering deals with. >>>> >>> It's possible. I want to tell the AI I care about speed more than >>> anything, even correctness. >> >> ask it, am i making sense and present me with options about what you >> think i mean. >> > People do the same thing. They'll sit there and present you with a > solution that is ridiculous because of some insider information you > have. I guess I'll tell these kinds of people something like, "Look bud, > I told you that won't help. Are you listening to me?" nobody listens to a pair of eagle asses in a power dive
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