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Re: frequency

From Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.recovery.aa
Subject Re: frequency
Date 2026-06-28 13:02 -0400
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On 6/28/26 12:51 PM, badgolferman wrote:
> Mark Warner wrote:
>> On 6/28/26 11:48 AM, Charlie M. 1958 wrote:
>>> On 6/28/2026 6:40 AM, S. LaRocca wrote:
>>>
>>>> Like you, it more of a habit, than need. Our Zoom group meets 3
>>>> times  a week, I usually go twice, more because I like theƂ
>>>> before and after  meeting, rather than the actual meeting. I'm
>>>> not saying I don't get  anything out of the meeting, just that
>>>> it's not mandatory.
>>>
>>> I don't hear many people talk about it, but I strongly suspect a
>>> lot of  people had the same experience as me: Once COVID kept them
>>> out of  meetings for an extended period, they realized they didn't
>>> suffer any  negative effects, and either reduced their meeting
>>> attendance or quit  going to meetings altogether.
>>
>> I've seen a lot of that over the years, even without the Covid factor.
>>
>> People will tell you that those who relapse start by eschewing
>> meetings and they then eventually pick up. How to we know? Because
>> that's what everyone who comes back tells you happened. Of course we
>> don't hear from those who get on with their lives and stay sober and
>> don't feel the need to come back and tell us about it.
> 
> So doesn't the experience of those who relapsed and came back matter...
> or do you just care about the experience of people who don't report
> what happened to them?
> 

Sure it matters. As does the fact that many people get sober and give AA 
all the credit, but no longer feel that their continued sobriety and 
well being is dependent on AA participation. Truth matters, even the 
uncomfortable ones.

If you've strung together a substantial amount of sober time and still 
think you could be struck drunk if you don't continue doing all the AA 
shit people say you need to do, then you're not doing it right.

-- 
Mark Warner
MX Linux KDE
Registered Linux User #415318
...lose .inhibitions when replying

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frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 12:59 +0000
  Re: frequency Ted H <theise@panix.com> - 2026-06-27 14:46 +0000
    Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 16:45 +0000
      Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 06:34 -0400
  Re: frequency Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 13:39 -0400
    Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 17:53 +0000
    Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-27 13:18 -0500
      Re: frequency Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 15:16 -0400
        Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-27 15:40 -0500
          Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 21:11 +0000
            Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 07:28 -0400
          Re: frequency Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 19:44 -0400
            Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 07:35 -0400
          Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 07:19 -0400
            Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 10:44 -0500
              Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 13:46 -0400
                Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 13:01 -0500
                Re: frequency Ted H <theise@panix.com> - 2026-06-29 14:20 +0000
        Re: frequency Ted H <theise@panix.com> - 2026-06-28 15:06 +0000
      Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 06:39 -0400
  Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-27 13:25 -0500
    Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 07:40 -0400
      Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 10:48 -0500
        Re: frequency Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 12:12 -0400
          Re: frequency "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 16:51 +0000
            Re: frequency Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 13:02 -0400
              Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 18:22 +0000
                Re: frequency Fred Exley <notreally@aol.com> - 2026-06-29 08:09 -0700
            Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 12:11 -0500
              Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 12:16 -0500
                Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 18:23 +0000
                Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 13:45 -0500
                Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 19:58 +0000
                Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 16:33 -0500
                Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 21:56 +0000
                Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 18:40 -0400
                Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 23:18 +0000
                Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-30 07:33 -0400
                Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 13:10 +0000
                Re: frequency Sharx335 <sharx35@telus.net> - 2026-06-30 07:26 -0600
                Re: frequency Sharx335 <sharx35@telus.net> - 2026-06-30 07:27 -0600
                Re: frequency Fred Exley <notreally@aol.com> - 2026-06-30 09:23 -0700
                Re: frequency Sharx335 <sharx35@telus.net> - 2026-06-30 07:25 -0600
                Re: frequency Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2026-07-03 21:51 -0700
                Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-28 21:39 -0500
                Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 11:05 +0000
                Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-29 10:28 -0500
                Re: frequency Ken <ken@example.invalid> - 2026-06-29 11:29 -0600
                Re: frequency "Charlie M. 1958" <always@impaitient.com> - 2026-06-29 12:49 -0500
                Re: frequency badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 21:38 +0000
                Re: frequency Bob <anon@anon.com> - 2026-06-28 19:49 +0000
              Re: frequency Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 13:31 -0400
            Re: frequency "S. LaRocca" <blutofarts@bigwind.org> - 2026-06-28 13:39 -0400
  Re: frequency Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2026-06-27 14:20 -0700
  Re: frequency Fred Exley <notreally@aol.com> - 2026-06-27 16:35 -0700
    Re: frequency Bob <anon@anon.com> - 2026-06-28 12:56 +0000
      Re: frequency "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 14:38 +0000
        Re: frequency Bob <anon@anon.com> - 2026-06-28 16:20 +0000

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