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First post2021-09-20 16:39 +0000
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  Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-20 16:39 +0000
    Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-21 10:05 -0400
      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-22 15:17 +0000
        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-22 18:17 -0400
          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:07 +0000
            Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-28 00:06 -0400
              Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-10-04 15:36 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-07 15:59 -0400
                  Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 18:36 +0000
                    Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 16:49 -0400
                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 12:52 +0000
                        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 12:43 -0500
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:56 +0000
                            Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:21 -0500
      Re: Busy, busy, busy steve pope <spope384@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 20:18 -0700
        Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-09-27 00:01 -0700
          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:09 +0000
            Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-09-28 05:34 -0700
              Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-10-04 15:41 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 16:52 -0700
                  Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-07 16:03 -0400
                    Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-09 15:13 -0700
                      Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-12 08:39 -0400
                        Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-14 15:51 -0700
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-14 22:17 -0400
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:46 +0000
                            Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:36 -0700
                              Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 13:18 +0000
                                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 06:20 -0800
                            Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:07 -0400
                              Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:04 +0000
                                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 12:46 -0500
                                  Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:15 +0000
                                    Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:06 -0500
                                      Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 20:16 -0800
                                        Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:32 +0000
                                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:23 +0000
                                        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-29 22:48 -0500
                                          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:52 +0000
                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:44 +0000
                        Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:42 -0700
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:05 -0400
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:07 +0000
                    Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:40 +0000
                      Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:04 -0400
                  Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:07 +0000
                    Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:50 -0700
                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-03 15:22 +0000
                        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 16:58 -0400
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:37 +0000
                            Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 13:00 -0500
                              Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 06:34 -0800
                              Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:52 +0000
                                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:17 -0500
                                  Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 20:08 +0000
                                    Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:47 -0500
                                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:38 +0000
                                        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-12-08 15:04 -0500
                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:14 +0000
                        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-16 10:58 -0500
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 07:06 -0800
                            Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:30 +0000
                              Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 10:58 -0800
                                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:59 -0500
                                  Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:56 +0000
                                    Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:36 -0500
                                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:22 +0000
                                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:52 +0000
                                  Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-29 12:29 -0800
                                    Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:35 -0500
                                      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:21 +0000
                                        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-12-08 14:54 -0500
                                          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-13 15:38 +0000
                                    Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:08 +0000
                              Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:54 -0500
                                Re: Busy, busy, busy Chickpea <chickpea@gmx.co.uk> - 2021-11-27 20:08 +0000
                                  Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:57 +0000
                                    Re: Busy, busy, busy Chickpea <chickpea@gmx.co.uk> - 2022-01-28 10:17 +0400
                          Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:25 +0000
                            Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:50 -0500
                              Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:47 +0000
                                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:41 -0500
        Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:08 +0000
        Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-27 13:35 -0400
        Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 12:53 +0000

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#32486

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-10-07 16:03 -0400
Message-ID<sc043i-dq7.ln1@anthive.com>
In reply to#32484
Freyja wrote:
...
> The burnout is bad and getting worse.  Out here, salaries are in six 
> digits, yet retention is still an issue.

  i think it would be very disheartening when so many people
are not taking very good care of themselves or following the
recommendations given.  i've certainly become a lot less
charitable myself during this pandemic and the past election
cycle sure didn't help either.  i feel like as a nation we've
squandered trillions of dollars for education and still ended
up with a nation of people who don't even understand basic
math or reason let alone many other things - but then don't
get me started...  "Get off my lawn!"  <-- joke, we don't 
really have much of a lawn any more.  :)


  songbird

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#32487

FromFreyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com>
Date2021-10-09 15:13 -0700
Message-ID<z_idna-MxLuLif_8nZ2dnUU7-Y3NnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#32486
On 10/7/2021 13:03, songbird wrote:
> Freyja wrote:
> ...
>> The burnout is bad and getting worse.  Out here, salaries are in six
>> digits, yet retention is still an issue.
> 
>    i think it would be very disheartening when so many people
> are not taking very good care of themselves or following the
> recommendations given.  i've certainly become a lot less
> charitable myself during this pandemic and the past election
> cycle sure didn't help either.  i feel like as a nation we've
> squandered trillions of dollars for education and still ended
> up with a nation of people who don't even understand basic
> math or reason let alone many other things - but then don't
> get me started...  "Get off my lawn!"  <-- joke, we don't
> really have much of a lawn any more.  :)
> 
> 

Our lawn is artificial grass.  It was good enough to fool a rabbit who 
tried to eat it and ended up confused.  Achilles liked watching him.


-- 
Freyja the NurseWench
http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org
Twitter: @FreyjaRN  @DuchessHonor
"If at first you don't succeed, switch to power tools."
-Red Green

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#32488

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-10-12 08:39 -0400
Message-ID<r9cg3i-c22.ln1@anthive.com>
In reply to#32487
Freyja wrote:
...
> Our lawn is artificial grass.  It was good enough to fool a rabbit who 
> tried to eat it and ended up confused.  Achilles liked watching him.

  are there a lot of rabbits around there?  if enough of them
volunteer to trim it then eventually it might get destroyed (and
it won't grow back).

  we have a kind of similar issue with plants that are supposedly
deer proof, but if we get enough young deer who sample them 
they'll still be damaged and croak.

  i want more fence up to prevent deer from getting at the 
gardens but Mom doesn't want it.  oh well, such is life.  :)


  songbird

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#32489

FromFreyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com>
Date2021-10-14 15:51 -0700
Message-ID<kcqdnb0O38jiKfX8nZ2dnUU7-QPNnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#32488
On 10/12/2021 05:39, songbird wrote:
> Freyja wrote:
> ...
>> Our lawn is artificial grass.  It was good enough to fool a rabbit who
>> tried to eat it and ended up confused.  Achilles liked watching him.
> 
>    are there a lot of rabbits around there?  if enough of them
> volunteer to trim it then eventually it might get destroyed (and
> it won't grow back).
> 
>    we have a kind of similar issue with plants that are supposedly
> deer proof, but if we get enough young deer who sample them
> they'll still be damaged and croak.
> 
>    i want more fence up to prevent deer from getting at the
> gardens but Mom doesn't want it.  oh well, such is life.  :)
> 
> 

We have some rabbits, but they don't hang out on the lawn to eat.  They 
just grab a hibiscus petal and stroll off.  Achilles watches intently. 
I think they figured it out.  Lizards don't bother.  They seem to just 
want to bask or skitter around.  All the cats love watching them. 
Achilles prefers to watching the coyotes from inside, of course.  He 
hunts and kills flies that get in, bless him.

I'm not sure what you can do about the deer.  When I was in Cary, NC, I 
nearly had a deer hit me in the rear of my car.  They were everywhere.


-- 
Freyja the NurseWench
http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org
Twitter: @FreyjaRN  @DuchessHonor
If life gives you lemons, throw 'em into a quart of vodka.
-Red Green

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#32490

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-10-14 22:17 -0400
Message-ID<hv4n3i-udi.ln1@anthive.com>
In reply to#32489
Freyja wrote:
...
> We have some rabbits, but they don't hang out on the lawn to eat.  They 
> just grab a hibiscus petal and stroll off.  Achilles watches intently. 
> I think they figured it out.  Lizards don't bother.  They seem to just 
> want to bask or skitter around.  All the cats love watching them. 
> Achilles prefers to watching the coyotes from inside, of course.  He 
> hunts and kills flies that get in, bless him.

  skyraisins!  :)


> I'm not sure what you can do about the deer.  When I was in Cary, NC, I 
> nearly had a deer hit me in the rear of my car.  They were everywhere.

  deer are all over here too.  i always wish for wolves as the
coyotes don't control deer and hunting doesn't do it either.

  i've hit deer with my car (since sold), Mom's car has hit
at least three deer (one technically ran into the side of the
car when i was driving it).  about every three years it seems.

  fences are the only reliable method that is economical for
the long haul.  any other deterrents that you have to keep 
refreshing end up getting more expensive than just buying the
vegetables and fruits...

  a living fence is possible except it takes about four years to
get established and somehow you have to protect the plants until
the fence is big enough to protect itself - so, well, you might
as well put up a fence IMO.

  guard animals we don't want, and i'm not interested in hunting
them myself either.

  we have a mix of fenced and unfenced gardens and while i can
get results from the unfenced areas there are some plants that
i will only get a harvest from if they are inside the fences.


  songbird

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#32498

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-11-01 19:46 +0000
Message-ID<slrnso0h19.a88.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32489
On 2021-10-14, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote:

> We have some rabbits, but they don't hang out on the lawn to eat.  They 
> just grab a hibiscus petal and stroll off.  Achilles watches intently. 
> I think they figured it out.  Lizards don't bother.  They seem to just 
> want to bask or skitter around.  All the cats love watching them. 
> Achilles prefers to watching the coyotes from inside, of course.  He 
> hunts and kills flies that get in, bless him.

Achilles is a kitty, I take it.

> I'm not sure what you can do about the deer.  When I was in Cary, NC, I 
> nearly had a deer hit me in the rear of my car.  They were everywhere.

I had an owl crash into my car the other day. There wasn't a damned 
thing I could do about it. I hate it when things like that happen.


umar

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#32499

FromFreyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com>
Date2021-11-02 18:36 -0700
Message-ID<7_-dnYhFxKA9ehz8nZ2dnUU7-RnNnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#32498
On 11/1/2021 12:46, umar wrote:
> On 2021-10-14, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> We have some rabbits, but they don't hang out on the lawn to eat.  They
>> just grab a hibiscus petal and stroll off.  Achilles watches intently.
>> I think they figured it out.  Lizards don't bother.  They seem to just
>> want to bask or skitter around.  All the cats love watching them.
>> Achilles prefers to watching the coyotes from inside, of course.  He
>> hunts and kills flies that get in, bless him.
> 
> Achilles is a kitty, I take it.

He certainly is a cat.  He's our all-black pocket panther (Wakanda 
forever!).  Achilles is our youngest.

>> I'm not sure what you can do about the deer.  When I was in Cary, NC, I
>> nearly had a deer hit me in the rear of my car.  They were everywhere.
> 
> I had an owl crash into my car the other day. There wasn't a damned
> thing I could do about it. I hate it when things like that happen.
> 

An owl?  Yikes.


-- 
Freyja the NurseWench
http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org
Twitter: @FreyjaRN  @DuchessHonor
I have lived with many Zen masters, all of them cats.
-Eckhart Tolle

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#32513

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-11-16 13:18 +0000
Message-ID<slrnsp7bse.trq.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32499
On 2021-11-03, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote:

> He certainly is a cat.  He's our all-black pocket panther (Wakanda 
> forever!).  Achilles is our youngest.

Kitties are delightful. It's hard to hang out with one and not get a 
smile on one's face.

> An owl?  Yikes.

Now, this morning, I got off the T -- that's what they call public 
transit in these parts -- and I was walking through Boston's Dorchester 
neighborhood, just off busy Morrissey Boulevard, when I heard a squawk 
over my left shoulder. Strutting around in an adjacent parking lot was a 
wild turkey. They've become remarkably common in recent years; I've even 
seen them in downtown Boston.

I wonder if any other major metropolitan areas have been infiltraded by 
turkeys.


umar

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#32522

FromFreyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com>
Date2021-11-18 06:20 -0800
Message-ID<roCdnc1x6byv_Av8nZ2dnUU7-T_NnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#32513
On 11/16/2021 05:18, umar wrote:
> On 2021-11-03, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> He certainly is a cat.  He's our all-black pocket panther (Wakanda
>> forever!).  Achilles is our youngest.
> 
> Kitties are delightful. It's hard to hang out with one and not get a
> smile on one's face.

Yup!  Achilles just came to see me in the bathroom and purred at me for 
skritching his neck and cheek.  Somehow the nausea eased.  Purrs are 
said to be healing.

>> An owl?  Yikes.
> 
> Now, this morning, I got off the T -- that's what they call public
> transit in these parts -- and I was walking through Boston's Dorchester
> neighborhood, just off busy Morrissey Boulevard, when I heard a squawk
> over my left shoulder. Strutting around in an adjacent parking lot was a
> wild turkey. They've become remarkably common in recent years; I've even
> seen them in downtown Boston.
> 
> I wonder if any other major metropolitan areas have been infiltraded by
> turkeys.
> 

It wouldn't surprise me.

I remember the T from when I was interviewing for a job.  Easy to figure 
out.


-- 
Freyja the NurseWench
http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org
Twitter: @FreyjaRN  @DuchessHonor
"Kittens believe that all nature is occupied with their diversion."
-F.A. Paradis de Moncrif

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#32503

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-11-05 17:07 -0400
Message-ID<u1jg5i-0h8.ln1@anthive.com>
In reply to#32498
umar wrote:
...
> I had an owl crash into my car the other day. There wasn't a damned 
> thing I could do about it. I hate it when things like that happen.

  aw!  :(  did it scare the crap outta ya?

  we have some owls that come around here at times to hunt
the mice.  we're prime mice habitat with all these rocks
and gardens.


  songbird

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#32514

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-11-16 14:04 +0000
Message-ID<slrnsp7ek6.trq.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32503
On 2021-11-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> umar wrote:
> ...
>> I had an owl crash into my car the other day. There wasn't a damned 
>> thing I could do about it. I hate it when things like that happen.
>
>   aw!  :(  did it scare the crap outta ya?

It was like watching a squirrel run across the road in front of your 
car. You know what's going to happen, you see it happening, and there's 
nothing you can do.

> we have some owls that come around here at times to hunt the mice.  
> we're prime mice habitat with all these rocks and gardens.

I opened up a tuning unit at the base of an AM radio tower the other day 
to find it full of mice -- there were at least half a dozen in there. 
They had made nests under the coils.


umar

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#32519

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-11-17 12:46 -0500
Message-ID<5orf6i-gp7.ln1@anthive.com>
In reply to#32514
umar wrote:
> On 2021-11-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
>> umar wrote:
>> ...
>>> I had an owl crash into my car the other day. There wasn't a damned 
>>> thing I could do about it. I hate it when things like that happen.
>>
>>   aw!  :(  did it scare the crap outta ya?
>
> It was like watching a squirrel run across the road in front of your 
> car. You know what's going to happen, you see it happening, and there's 
> nothing you can do.

  :(


>> we have some owls that come around here at times to hunt the mice.  
>> we're prime mice habitat with all these rocks and gardens.
>
> I opened up a tuning unit at the base of an AM radio tower the other day 
> to find it full of mice -- there were at least half a dozen in there. 
> They had made nests under the coils.

  we used to have to contact ATT a few times a year when
the mice would invade the cabinets and build nests and
then the snakes would get in there going after the mice.
so many of the technicians would mention that they hated
snakes.  i like snakes, mice i can do without but they
are a big menu item for a lot of other creatures so they
are important in this web of life.


  songbird

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#32525

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-11-23 17:15 +0000
Message-ID<slrnspq8dr.n45.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32519
On 2021-11-17, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

>   we used to have to contact ATT a few times a year when
> the mice would invade the cabinets and build nests and
> then the snakes would get in there going after the mice.
> so many of the technicians would mention that they hated
> snakes.  i like snakes, mice i can do without but they
> are a big menu item for a lot of other creatures so they
> are important in this web of life.

A milk snake once fell out of the ceiling at a radio station owned by 
one of my clients, right in the middle of the morning show. It landed at 
the feet of the owner's daughter, and pandemonium ensued. The snake had 
to be ushered out the back door by the morning jock, who was an almost 
perfect clone of WKRPin Cincinnati's Dr. Johnny Fever.

In this part of the counry, we have the eastern milk snake, Lampropeltis 
triangulum. It's a less colorful relative of the southern ones that 
mimic the candy-cane pattern of the coral snake. Milk snakes fall into 
the category of ill-tempered but harmless snakes; I don't know why so 
many people hate or fear them.

The mice are actually more dangerous; not only do they spread disease, 
but they can actually burn down buildings by gnawing through electrical 
insulation.


umar

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#32532

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-11-23 18:06 -0500
Message-ID<ko807i-2r2.ln1@anthive.com>
In reply to#32525
umar wrote:
> On 2021-11-17, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
>
>>   we used to have to contact ATT a few times a year when
>> the mice would invade the cabinets and build nests and
>> then the snakes would get in there going after the mice.
>> so many of the technicians would mention that they hated
>> snakes.  i like snakes, mice i can do without but they
>> are a big menu item for a lot of other creatures so they
>> are important in this web of life.
>
> A milk snake once fell out of the ceiling at a radio station owned by 
> one of my clients, right in the middle of the morning show. It landed at 
> the feet of the owner's daughter, and pandemonium ensued. The snake had 
> to be ushered out the back door by the morning jock, who was an almost 
> perfect clone of WKRPin Cincinnati's Dr. Johnny Fever.

  hahaha!  since i remember that show (and had such a crush
on Bailey) i can see it all.  :)  that must have been a sight
to see.  :)


> In this part of the counry, we have the eastern milk snake, Lampropeltis 
> triangulum. It's a less colorful relative of the southern ones that 
> mimic the candy-cane pattern of the coral snake. Milk snakes fall into 
> the category of ill-tempered but harmless snakes; I don't know why so 
> many people hate or fear them.

  we have a rather fiesty brown snake that is harmless but
can startle you if you don't notice it in time.  we do have
the poisonous swamp rattler snakes here but they are usually
around the wetlands and we are not too close to those so it
takes some travel for them to get here.  i think i've seen
one in all the years i've been here.

  i like snakes.  i don't have any or keep them as pets, but
i do like them.  with all the rock piles around there is 
plenty of habitat for them.


> The mice are actually more dangerous; not only do they spread disease, 
> but they can actually burn down buildings by gnawing through electrical 
> insulation.

  yes, i've had to trap hundreds of mice out of the walls here
over the years.  it wasn't until just a few years ago that i
finally got this place properly sealed up, but i do have to keep
an eye out for any new attempts to get back in.  once the snow
flies at least i can see the mouse tracks in the snow to find
out if anyone is trying to nest in places they shouldn't be.
one nest we had to remove from the AC a few summer's ago after
they'd finally destroyed some wiring and the capacitor that was
used in that part of the control box.  luckily it did not cause
a fire or harm the motor of the AC unit.


  songbird

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#32537

FromFreyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com>
Date2021-11-23 20:16 -0800
Message-ID<X7GdnZMBjMoKIQD8nZ2dnUU7-K3NnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#32532
On 11/23/2021 15:06, songbird wrote:
> umar wrote:
>> On 2021-11-17, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
>>
>>>    we used to have to contact ATT a few times a year when
>>> the mice would invade the cabinets and build nests and
>>> then the snakes would get in there going after the mice.
>>> so many of the technicians would mention that they hated
>>> snakes.  i like snakes, mice i can do without but they
>>> are a big menu item for a lot of other creatures so they
>>> are important in this web of life.
>>
>> A milk snake once fell out of the ceiling at a radio station owned by
>> one of my clients, right in the middle of the morning show. It landed at
>> the feet of the owner's daughter, and pandemonium ensued. The snake had
>> to be ushered out the back door by the morning jock, who was an almost
>> perfect clone of WKRPin Cincinnati's Dr. Johnny Fever.
> 
>    hahaha!  since i remember that show (and had such a crush
> on Bailey) i can see it all.  :)  that must have been a sight
> to see.  :)

Booger!  Fun series.

>> In this part of the counry, we have the eastern milk snake, Lampropeltis
>> triangulum. It's a less colorful relative of the southern ones that
>> mimic the candy-cane pattern of the coral snake. Milk snakes fall into
>> the category of ill-tempered but harmless snakes; I don't know why so
>> many people hate or fear them.
> 
>    we have a rather fiesty brown snake that is harmless but
> can startle you if you don't notice it in time.  we do have
> the poisonous swamp rattler snakes here but they are usually
> around the wetlands and we are not too close to those so it
> takes some travel for them to get here.  i think i've seen
> one in all the years i've been here.
> 
>    i like snakes.  i don't have any or keep them as pets, but
> i do like them.  with all the rock piles around there is
> plenty of habitat for them.

Snakes are helpful.  I've petted constrictors before, and they loved it. 
  They can be nice pets.

>> The mice are actually more dangerous; not only do they spread disease,
>> but they can actually burn down buildings by gnawing through electrical
>> insulation.
> 
>    yes, i've had to trap hundreds of mice out of the walls here
> over the years.  it wasn't until just a few years ago that i
> finally got this place properly sealed up, but i do have to keep
> an eye out for any new attempts to get back in.  once the snow
> flies at least i can see the mouse tracks in the snow to find
> out if anyone is trying to nest in places they shouldn't be.
> one nest we had to remove from the AC a few summer's ago after
> they'd finally destroyed some wiring and the capacitor that was
> used in that part of the control box.  luckily it did not cause
> a fire or harm the motor of the AC unit.

Rodents can wreak havoc.


-- 
Freyja the NurseWench
http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org
Twitter: @FreyjaRN  @DuchessHonor
“A man walks into a library and says, ‘I hope you don’t have a book on 
reverse psychology.’”
-Henny Youngman

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#32549

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-11-29 19:32 +0000
Message-ID<slrnsqaam2.eol.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32537
On 2021-11-24, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote:

> Booger!  Fun series.

A classic. Radio really was like that back before Wall Street gobbled up 
most of the stations.

> Snakes are helpful.  I've petted constrictors before, and they loved it. 
>   They can be nice pets.

A few years ago I had a housemate who came with a ball python named 
Kurt. Kurt was great, but one had to keep an eye on him because he was 
prone to escaping. My housemate eventually moved in with a guy who owned 
a house built in the 1690s, and Kurt got out of his cage and disappeared 
into the woodwork. I don't think they ever found him again.

> Rodents can wreak havoc.

Yup.


umar

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#32548

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-11-29 19:23 +0000
Message-ID<slrnsqaa5v.eol.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32532
On 2021-11-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

(re: WKRP in Cincinnati)

>   hahaha!  since i remember that show (and had such a crush
> on Bailey) i can see it all.  :)  that must have been a sight
> to see.  :)

Many of us in the radio business remember WKRP fondly because we have 
all encountered characters like those in the show. The turkey drop 
incident ("Turkeys Away") was modeled on one that really happened, 
albeit not in Cincinnati.

Oddly, there is actually a WKRQ in Cincinnati, just one letter of the 
alphabet removed from WKRP. There is also a WKRC. Neither has anything 
to do with the show.

>   we have a rather fiesty brown snake that is harmless but
> can startle you if you don't notice it in time.

Hmm, I wonder what species that is. What is called a "brown snake" here 
in the east is Storeria dekayi, a little snake not more than ten or 
fifteen inches long. I don't think I've ever encountered one, although I 
have seen its relative, S. occipitomaculata, the red bellied snake.

> we do have the poisonous swamp rattler snakes here but they are 
> usually around the wetlands and we are not too close to those so it 
> takes some travel for them to get here.  i think i've seen one in all 
> the years i've been here.

The only rattlesnake here is the timber rattler, Crotalus horridus. It's 
endangered in Massachusetts and is only found in a couple of places; 
oddly, one of them is the Blue Hills Reservation, just outside Boston. 
There are also copperheads in the reservation; occasionally one finds 
its way into the neighboring Granite Links golf course. They too are 
classified as endangered in MA.

Howie Carr, a local right-wing talk show host, ranted on the radio a few 
years ago against a proposal to preserve an island in the Quabban 
Reservoir in central Massachusetts as a rattlesnake habitat. He want on 
and on about endangering neighborhood children and the like, clearly 
unaware that there were rattlesnakes living much closer to civilization 
and no one had ever had a problem with them.

The Quabban is greater Boston's principal water supply. When it was 
created in the 1930s, four towns were deliberately flooded. They were 
Enfield, Prescott, Dana, and Greenwich ("green-witch"). The towns were 
formally dissolved and their residents moved elsewhere.

>   i like snakes.  i don't have any or keep them as pets, but
> i do like them.  with all the rock piles around there is 
> plenty of habitat for them.

I have long been fascinated by snakes. How a limbless terrestrial 
predator could ever evolve, let alone flourish, boggles the mind. The 
Boidae -- boas and pythons -- have remnants of a pelvis and little spurs 
that are vestiges of hind legs.


umar

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#32556

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2021-11-29 22:48 -0500
Message-ID<aijg7i-389.ln1@anthive.com>
In reply to#32548
umar wrote:
>songbird wrote:
...
>>   we have a rather fiesty brown snake that is harmless but
>> can startle you if you don't notice it in time.
>
> Hmm, I wonder what species that is. What is called a "brown snake" here 
> in the east is Storeria dekayi, a little snake not more than ten or 
> fifteen inches long. I don't think I've ever encountered one, although I 
> have seen its relative, S. occipitomaculata, the red bellied snake.


  yes, that's the one:

https://www.anthive.com/img/critters/100_3696_Feisty_Snake.jpg


...
>>   i like snakes.  i don't have any or keep them as pets, but
>> i do like them.  with all the rock piles around there is 
>> plenty of habitat for them.
>
> I have long been fascinated by snakes. How a limbless terrestrial 
> predator could ever evolve, let alone flourish, boggles the mind. The 
> Boidae -- boas and pythons -- have remnants of a pelvis and little spurs 
> that are vestiges of hind legs.

  that a polywog can become a frog or toad is always facinating to
consider.  and then there is us who start as two cells that come
together, just a little blob and then...


  songbird  (feeling protoplasmic lately

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#32565

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-12-06 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<slrnsqs8ub.6qh.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32556
On 2021-11-30, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

> that a polywog can become a frog or toad is always facinating to
> consider.  and then there is us who start as two cells that come
> together, just a little blob and then...

I used to wade around in ponds and swamps when I was a kid. Green frogs 
and bullfrogs overwinter as tadpoles and then turn into frogs the 
following summer. I would often encounter tadpoles with hind legs, 
tadpoles with all four legs, froglets with tails, and completely 
transformed froglets with no tails.

Even more remarkable were dragonfly larvae. They live underwater in 
ponds and are active predators, even sometimes catching tadpoles or 
small fish. Then one day the climb up out of the water on reeds or 
sticks, and dry out. Then their skins split open, and out comes... a 
dragonfly!

You don't want to handle dragonfly larvae; they bite.


umar

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#32497

Fromumar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Date2021-11-01 19:44 +0000
Message-ID<slrnso0gsb.a88.866013149e@python.interpring.com>
In reply to#32487
On 2021-10-09, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote:

> Our lawn is artificial grass.  It was good enough to fool a rabbit who 
> tried to eat it and ended up confused.  Achilles liked watching him.

That reminds me of a YouTube video someone posted of "the world's 
stupidest woodpecker". The bird is sitting on a diagonal strut on 
someone's steel ham radio tower, and starts pecking at it. Plink- 
plink-plink-plink-plink! My father said that was perfectly normal 
woodpecker behavior; the bird was just making noise for its own sake. I 
would almost say making a joyful noise unto the Lord, but we are all 
agnostics in my family.


umar

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