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| Started by | RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> |
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| First post | 2024-07-04 07:27 -0400 |
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After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2024-07-04 07:27 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-04 12:43 +0100
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-04 23:32 +0200
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-05 08:49 +1000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-04 23:33 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer bad💽sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-07-05 23:28 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer tinker123 <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 13:49 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2024-07-07 00:47 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Sebastian <sebastian@here.com.invalid> - 2024-08-06 17:09 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-06 18:29 +0100
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-06 15:08 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-06 20:23 +0100
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-06 18:31 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-03-28 20:43 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-06 21:38 +0200
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-08-06 13:51 -0700
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Sebastian <sebastian@here.com.invalid> - 2024-08-07 02:08 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-06 18:48 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-07 10:17 +0200
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-07 08:59 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-07 17:45 +0100
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-07 13:58 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-08-07 11:15 -0700
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-07 19:46 +0200
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-07 17:04 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-08 10:36 +0200
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-08 08:04 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-08 22:11 +0200
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-09 08:46 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-09 17:16 +0200
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-08-06 20:46 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-08-06 18:55 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer TronNerd82 <tronnerd82@aol.com> - 2025-03-26 21:10 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 19:48 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-27 06:52 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-27 07:34 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 08:39 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 01:04 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 22:10 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 05:42 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 08:35 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 08:41 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:29 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 17:34 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 23:51 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 22:08 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-29 06:41 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-29 07:59 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-18 02:23 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-18 07:12 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-19 11:04 +0100
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 08:01 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-19 13:42 +0100
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-29 06:57 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-29 08:02 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-29 21:59 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:11 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-18 02:25 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-18 07:15 -0400
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-03-29 04:56 +0000
Re: 🏳️🌈After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer🏳️🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmendenderer 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-29 14:36 +0000
Re: After NixOS, faggots attack Ladybird web browser developer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-27 11:03 -0400
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 08:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3IwFP.348028$sbY2.32309@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #81195 |
On 2025-03-28 01:42, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 22:10:56 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> Whether you will admit it or not, McCarthy was right. There _were_ >> Communists around every corner and they were indeed seeking not only to >> take over Hollywood, but every other influential establishment in the >> United States. They've clearly taken over academia and managed to >> overwhelm Hollywood despite his efforts. > > It never ceases to amaze me. With all your talk of “liberty” and “freedom > of expression”, that you could shut down your Communist Party, yet at the > same time decide that the KKK were not such a big threat to society at > all, just some kind of bunch of good ole boys having a bit of a lark, > harmless fun or something bloody stupid like that. I would shut down the Communist Party not because I don't respect freedom of expression but because their ideas have been proven to be destructive _to_ freedom throughout history. At best, Communists are grossly incompetent and will destroy their own economy and society; at worst, their utopia looks no different than the world portrayed in Nineteen Eighty-Four. Out of respect for freedom and the liberty of all people in society, I would have Communists hanged. As for the KKK, they knew that introducing people of what is objectively a problematic race into their society would result in its fabric being destroyed. They terrified blacks to discourage them from entering their communities. We've since demonized them yet they turned out to be right. The more blacks there are in a place, the more crime there is. Additionally, the more there are in the education system, the worse the results. It's not a coincidence that at 13%, they are responsible for 51% of crimes. It's not a coincidence that most of them have children when they are teenagers and that the fathers disappear once they are told that they produced a child. It's not a coincidence that most of them rely on welfare for survival and that the majority of the children will end up getting arrested at least once in their lives. Hate the KKK as much as you wish, but they saw it coming. That doesn't mean that I agree with their tactics though. >> On 2025-03-27 9:04 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> Red has become the official colour of the US Republican Party these >>> days. >>> >>> Coincidence? You be the judge. >> >> The Republicans aren't the ones encouraging people to rid themselves of >> their genitalia through the teaching that "gender is a construct." > > Sex is biology. Gender is not. Sex and gender are the same thing no matter how much you Communists insist on obliterating definitions. Advocating for more than two genders simply discredits you on that topic and encourages people who are still acquainted with logic to filter your posts. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 08:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <756dujl5g1bskb8n1nlc6h74tuhuhv60ls@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #81196 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >Out of respect for freedom and the liberty of all >people in society, I would have Communists hanged. So, "all people" except for the ones you're hanging ... >Sex and gender are the same thing no matter how much you Communists >insist on obliterating definitions. Advocating for more than two genders >simply discredits you on that topic and encourages people who are still >acquainted with logic to filter your posts. Denial. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 20:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs70rc$3gfnr$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81196 |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 08:35:15 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > As for the KKK, they knew that introducing people of what is > objectively a problematic race into their society would result in > its fabric being destroyed. The black people didn’t ask to be taken to America, you know. It was the very people who became members of the KKK who forcibly took them there. And had no problem keeping them there, as long as they were slaves. But as soon as the idea of living up to that “all men are created equal” clause in your founding documents, that you are supposed to be so proud of, came up, suddenly you began to see the consequences of your own actions as undesirable, without wanting to admit that it was your fault all along.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 17:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lBEFP.1338788$FVcd.333689@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #81199 |
On 2025-03-28 4:29 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 08:35:15 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> As for the KKK, they knew that introducing people of what is >> objectively a problematic race into their society would result in >> its fabric being destroyed. > > The black people didn’t ask to be taken to America, you know. Meanwhile, they were given the option to return to Africa and didn't bother to take it because it's so much more fun to play the victim and whine about wi' peepo than build a nation. > It was the > very people who became members of the KKK who forcibly took them there. > And had no problem keeping them there, as long as they were slaves. No, it was primarily Muslims who enslaved them with the aid of their brothers within the continent. Islam is very clear that it is allowable for a Muslim to capture and own slaves, which is why they continue the practice to this day. While there were Christians who owned slaves, it should be noted that they were also the ones who liberated them eventually, often at the cost of their own lives. Did Muslims liberate their slaves? Did Jews? Meanwhile, when they were liberated, these same people refused to be returned to their continent because they knew what kind of a shithole it was and continues to be. The country of Liberia was created for them but they preferred to stay in America and supposedly be treated like dirt. No matter how much they bitch and moan, blacks know that they have a better life among whites than they do among their own. > But as soon as the idea of living up to that “all men are created equal” > clause in your founding documents, that you are supposed to be so proud > of, came up, suddenly you began to see the consequences of your own > actions as undesirable, without wanting to admit that it was your fault > all along. How is it _my_ fault? My ancestors were Polish and we never enslaved a single person. There were serfs, but we know very well how that system worked. Don't lay any blame on me or my people. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 23:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs7cm6$3rjgm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81201 |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:34:08 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > Meanwhile, they were given the option to return to Africa and didn't > bother to take it... Because America is just as much their country as it is yours, by the same criterion of birthright. > No, it was primarily Muslims who enslaved them with the aid of their > brothers within the continent. Islam is very clear that it is allowable > for a Muslim to capture and own slaves ... None of your religions have anything bad to say about slavery. That includes Christianity. That’s why you were quite happy to be a part of the trade. >> But as soon as the idea of living up to that “all men are created >> equal” clause in your founding documents, that you are supposed to be >> so proud of, came up, suddenly you began to see the consequences of >> your own actions as undesirable, without wanting to admit that it was >> your fault all along. > > How is it _my_ fault? The ideas you espouse are your fault.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 22:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <OCIFP.784719$2zn8.487344@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #81204 |
On 2025-03-28 7:51 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:34:08 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> Meanwhile, they were given the option to return to Africa and didn't >> bother to take it... > > Because America is just as much their country as it is yours, by the same > criterion of birthright. Which should prompt them to make the best of their situation, and try to integrate society by being respectable human beings. Not only do they not try to integrate, they take pride in not doing so. Furthermore, they consume and produce content that destroys the fabric of society through indecency. That content encourages others like them to make rampant crime their contribution to society. If I had total power, I wouldn't invite such garbage people to resettle in Africa, I'd make it mandatory unless they change their idiotic behaviour. >> No, it was primarily Muslims who enslaved them with the aid of their >> brothers within the continent. Islam is very clear that it is allowable >> for a Muslim to capture and own slaves ... > > None of your religions have anything bad to say about slavery. That > includes Christianity. That’s why you were quite happy to be a part of the > trade. Again, Poles played no part in slavery. As for Christianity not having anything bad to say about slavery, that is a lie. While it might encourage people who were slaves to obey their masters, it doesn't encourage the devout to go out and enslave people the way that the Muslim book does. It even encourages masters to treat their slaves justly. Don't forget Paul's letter to Philemon asking him to free his slave. If you don't know what you are talking about, I would suggest that you refrain from making general statements. >>> But as soon as the idea of living up to that “all men are created >>> equal” clause in your founding documents, that you are supposed to be >>> so proud of, came up, suddenly you began to see the consequences of >>> your own actions as undesirable, without wanting to admit that it was >>> your fault all along. >> >> How is it _my_ fault? > > The ideas you espouse are your fault. Forty-six years of experience with black people has shown me that not only are their positive contributions to society minimal, but they are not deserving of the same default respect I would afford to white people. They need to earn my respect because they are, by default, selfish, dishonest destructive. I don't care if you disagree with that. I won't ignore decades of empirical evidence because you don't find it fashionable. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 06:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs84m1$mffn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81206 |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:08:44 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > As for Christianity not having > anything bad to say about slavery, that is a lie. While it might > encourage people who were slaves to obey their masters, it doesn't > encourage the devout to go out and enslave people the way that the > Muslim book does. And yet, that is exactly what the Christians went out and did, for centuries. With not a quibble, indeed, with the encouragement, of their moral leaders.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 07:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <%gRFP.1190566$OrR5.423760@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #81209 |
On 2025-03-29 2:41 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:08:44 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> As for Christianity not having >> anything bad to say about slavery, that is a lie. While it might >> encourage people who were slaves to obey their masters, it doesn't >> encourage the devout to go out and enslave people the way that the >> Muslim book does. > > And yet, that is exactly what the Christians went out and did, for > centuries. With not a quibble, indeed, with the encouragement, of their > moral leaders. And because Christians did it, taking advantage of a situation created by Muslims in the lands they conquered, everyone conveniently ignores the Islamic role in the Slave Trade because Christians are not likely to murder the people complaining about them like Muslims would. Once again, Poles had nothing to do with it and neither did the Holy Bible which advocated against such a practice. You can blame individual Europeans and early Americans if you wish, but you have to take into consideration that Europeans abolished the practice and that early Americans died to do the same. Where is your blame of the Muslims and blacks who _continue_ to enslave and exploit people to this day? -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 02:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtsd24$1uc55$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81211 |
On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 07:59:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > And because Christians did it, taking advantage of a situation created > by Muslims in the lands they conquered, everyone conveniently ignores > the Islamic role in the Slave Trade because Christians are not likely to > murder the people complaining about them like Muslims would. But the followers of your religion claim to be morally superior to the other lot, don’t they? Yet here you are admitting that they are all just as bad, all quite happy to get their hands dirty in the moral mire that was the slave trade. > Once again, Poles had nothing to do with it ... But you claim to be covered by the same “Christian” brand. I don’t see you disavowing “Christianity” and setting up another brand that explicitly does not condone such activities in its core beliefs.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 07:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6sqMP.1648999$SZca.1501235@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #81411 |
On 4/17/25 22:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 07:59:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> And because Christians did it, taking advantage of a situation created >> by Muslims in the lands they conquered, everyone conveniently ignores >> the Islamic role in the Slave Trade because Christians are not likely to >> murder the people complaining about them like Muslims would. > > But the followers of your religion claim to be morally superior to the > other lot, don’t they? Yet here you are admitting that they are all just > as bad, all quite happy to get their hands dirty in the moral mire that > was the slave trade. People have been enslaving one another for millennia. Christianity did not create the problem. If anything, Christians were rallying against the practice from the beginning and there are lots of excerpts in the New Testament saying as much. If people calling themselves Christians participated in the trade, that does not mean that the religion endorses it. Meanwhile, Islam _fully_ endorses slavery and the practice continues in areas they control to this day. >> Once again, Poles had nothing to do with it ... > > But you claim to be covered by the same “Christian” brand. I don’t see you > disavowing “Christianity” and setting up another brand that explicitly > does not condone such activities in its core beliefs. There is nothing to disavow. A religion cannot be held responsible for what people claiming to be its adherents do. The New Testament is clear in the idea that Christians should be rallying _against_ slavery. Finally, your opinion of Christianity is of no interest to me. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-19 11:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vtvsfl$16goo$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81413 |
On 18/04/2025 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 4/17/25 22:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 07:59:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> And because Christians did it, taking advantage of a situation created >>> by Muslims in the lands they conquered, everyone conveniently ignores >>> the Islamic role in the Slave Trade because Christians are not likely to >>> murder the people complaining about them like Muslims would. >> >> But the followers of your religion claim to be morally superior to the >> other lot, don’t they? Yet here you are admitting that they are all just >> as bad, all quite happy to get their hands dirty in the moral mire that >> was the slave trade. > > People have been enslaving one another for millennia. Christianity did > not create the problem. If anything, Christians were rallying against > the practice from the beginning and there are lots of excerpts in the > New Testament saying as much. If people calling themselves Christians > participated in the trade, that does not mean that the religion endorses > it. Meanwhile, Islam _fully_ endorses slavery and the practice continues > in areas they control to this day. Christianity was the religion of the slaves. It promised they would be kings in the afterlife, so kept them happy slaves. > >>> Once again, Poles had nothing to do with it ... >> >> But you claim to be covered by the same “Christian” brand. I don’t see >> you >> disavowing “Christianity” and setting up another brand that explicitly >> does not condone such activities in its core beliefs. > > There is nothing to disavow. A religion cannot be held responsible for > what people claiming to be its adherents do. The New Testament is clear > in the idea that Christians should be rallying _against_ slavery. > > Finally, your opinion of Christianity is of no interest to me. > -- "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others...” Tom Wolfe
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-19 08:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <qgMMP.704187$SVG3.387611@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #81417 |
On 4/19/25 06:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/04/2025 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote: >> On 4/17/25 22:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 07:59:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> And because Christians did it, taking advantage of a situation created >>>> by Muslims in the lands they conquered, everyone conveniently ignores >>>> the Islamic role in the Slave Trade because Christians are not >>>> likely to >>>> murder the people complaining about them like Muslims would. >>> >>> But the followers of your religion claim to be morally superior to the >>> other lot, don’t they? Yet here you are admitting that they are all just >>> as bad, all quite happy to get their hands dirty in the moral mire that >>> was the slave trade. >> >> People have been enslaving one another for millennia. Christianity did >> not create the problem. If anything, Christians were rallying against >> the practice from the beginning and there are lots of excerpts in the >> New Testament saying as much. If people calling themselves Christians >> participated in the trade, that does not mean that the religion >> endorses it. Meanwhile, Islam _fully_ endorses slavery and the >> practice continues in areas they control to this day. > > Christianity was the religion of the slaves. > It promised they would be kings in the afterlife, so kept them happy > slaves. Which slaves are you referring to during Jesus's time and the successive centuries? -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-19 13:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vu05mu$1evja$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81418 |
On 19/04/2025 13:01, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 4/19/25 06:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/04/2025 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> On 4/17/25 22:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 07:59:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>> >>>>> And because Christians did it, taking advantage of a situation created >>>>> by Muslims in the lands they conquered, everyone conveniently ignores >>>>> the Islamic role in the Slave Trade because Christians are not >>>>> likely to >>>>> murder the people complaining about them like Muslims would. >>>> >>>> But the followers of your religion claim to be morally superior to the >>>> other lot, don’t they? Yet here you are admitting that they are all >>>> just >>>> as bad, all quite happy to get their hands dirty in the moral mire that >>>> was the slave trade. >>> >>> People have been enslaving one another for millennia. Christianity >>> did not create the problem. If anything, Christians were rallying >>> against the practice from the beginning and there are lots of >>> excerpts in the New Testament saying as much. If people calling >>> themselves Christians participated in the trade, that does not mean >>> that the religion endorses it. Meanwhile, Islam _fully_ endorses >>> slavery and the practice continues in areas they control to this day. >> >> Christianity was the religion of the slaves. >> It promised they would be kings in the afterlife, so kept them happy >> slaves. > > Which slaves are you referring to during Jesus's time and the successive > centuries? > Roman (owned) slaves largely, and Greek (owned) ones. Did you actually not know this? -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frédéric Bastiat
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 06:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs85kh$ndu0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81206 |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:08:44 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > Forty-six years of experience with black people has shown me that not > only are their positive contributions to society minimal, but they are > not deserving of the same default respect I would afford to white > people. Maybe they feel the same about you. Because when they do well, it can enrage you to such a degree that you feel the need to put them down again, using force and violence if need be. <https://www.tulsahistory.org/exhibit/1921-tulsa-race-massacre/>
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 08:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bjRFP.1190567$OrR5.913102@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #81210 |
On 2025-03-29 2:57 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:08:44 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> Forty-six years of experience with black people has shown me that not >> only are their positive contributions to society minimal, but they are >> not deserving of the same default respect I would afford to white >> people. > > Maybe they feel the same about you. Because when they do well, it can > enrage you to such a degree that you feel the need to put them down again, > using force and violence if need be. > > <https://www.tulsahistory.org/exhibit/1921-tulsa-race-massacre/> They do so well that they are living in the same ghettos they lived in decades ago and committing the crimes they did when they arrived. I live near them and see their projects regularly. Unlike whites and Asians who improve with each generation, blacks stagnate no matter how much time you give them to crawl out of the hole they dug for themselves. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 21:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs9qfs$2ciql$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81212 |
On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 08:02:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-03-29 2:57 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:08:44 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> Forty-six years of experience with black people has shown me that not >>> only are their positive contributions to society minimal, but they are >>> not deserving of the same default respect I would afford to white >>> people. >> >> Maybe they feel the same about you. Because when they do well, it can >> enrage you to such a degree that you feel the need to put them down >> again, using force and violence if need be. >> >> <https://www.tulsahistory.org/exhibit/1921-tulsa-race-massacre/> > > They do so well that they are living in the same ghettos they lived in > decades ago ... Completely ignoring the story of what happened when a bunch of black people actually succeeded in bettering themselves.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 07:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <TF9GP.530386$f81.128270@fx48.iad> |
| In reply to | #81217 |
On 2025-03-29 5:59 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 08:02:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> On 2025-03-29 2:57 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:08:44 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> Forty-six years of experience with black people has shown me that not >>>> only are their positive contributions to society minimal, but they are >>>> not deserving of the same default respect I would afford to white >>>> people. >>> >>> Maybe they feel the same about you. Because when they do well, it can >>> enrage you to such a degree that you feel the need to put them down >>> again, using force and violence if need be. >>> >>> <https://www.tulsahistory.org/exhibit/1921-tulsa-race-massacre/> >> >> They do so well that they are living in the same ghettos they lived in >> decades ago ... > > Completely ignoring the story of what happened when a bunch of black > people actually succeeded in bettering themselves. I ignored it because this one time whites did something to blacks is overshadowed by the fact that blacks do this to white communities and even their own communities _daily_. I have no sympathy for them. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 02:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtsd6g$1uc55$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81219 |
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:11:43 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > I ignored it because this one time whites did something to blacks is > overshadowed by the fact that blacks do this to white communities and > even their own communities _daily_. Interesting how you see yourself as part of “whites” when it suits you, but then separate yourself out as “Poles” when you feel the need to distance yourself from some of the actions perpetrated by “whites”. Whites look down on other whites too, don’t they? Seems like the Anglos see themselves as on top, and other whites as somehow less “white”, and deserving of special derogatory terms to separate them out.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 07:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <NvqMP.1649000$SZca.1063505@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #81412 |
On 4/17/25 22:25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:11:43 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> I ignored it because this one time whites did something to blacks is >> overshadowed by the fact that blacks do this to white communities and >> even their own communities _daily_. > > Interesting how you see yourself as part of “whites” when it suits you, > but then separate yourself out as “Poles” when you feel the need to > distance yourself from some of the actions perpetrated by “whites”. > > Whites look down on other whites too, don’t they? Seems like the Anglos > see themselves as on top, and other whites as somehow less “white”, and > deserving of special derogatory terms to separate them out. Poles became Catholics in 966. From that date, they did what Catholics were supposed to do. If you have examples of Poles participating in the slave trade, committing genocide or starting wars, you are welcome to provide them. All true Poles are white but not all whites are Poles. Therefore, Poles should not be blamed for the actions of whites. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 04:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs7uhl$2thkf$2@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org> |
| In reply to | #81191 |
On 2025-03-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-03-27 03:34, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 06:52:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> Engineering is about data, and facts. It has no political or moral >>> content whatsoever. >> >> Truly a statement worthy of Wernher von Braun. > > And one which causes the heads of progressives to explode. Let's be > reminded of Obama's brilliant words: "If you've got a business, you > didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." > You see, even if you created a business out of your garage and invested > your profits into hiring more people and eventually renting out some > property to grow the enterprise, the government should be credited with > its success as should random black or Hispanic people who never went > anywhere near your business. I see that youe brain is apparentl too small handle paragaphs longer than 1 sentence easily so I'll be breif. He was talking about roads and briges not "your" business. Re-read the sentence from that speach that came before "If you've got a business" a few times and think about it. If that doesn't help, i'm sorry. ignorance can be helped, but there's no cure for stupidity. -- Jasen. 🇺🇦 Слава Україні
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