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When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD

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  When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-11 21:52 +1100
    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 13:16 +0100
      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-11 23:34 +1100
    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-03-11 08:21 -0400
      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 15:57 +0100
        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-03-11 11:23 -0400
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-12 00:31 +0000
            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-12 13:15 +0000
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 11:19 -0400
            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-14 16:47 +0100
              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 14:47 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-14 23:39 -0400
                  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 07:50 +0100
                  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 06:58 +0000
                    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 04:02 -0400
                      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:20 +0000
                        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 20:29 -0400
                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 01:18 +0000
                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:44 -0400
                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 06:33 +0000
                        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-03-17 08:57 +0000
                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-17 16:05 +0200
                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:23 +0100
                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-17 15:21 -0400
                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 22:04 +0100
                                  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 23:19 +0000
                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-19 16:45 +0200
                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-03-19 16:05 +0000
                                  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-19 21:00 +0000
                                    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-20 03:04 -0400
                                      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:02 +0000
                                        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:50 +0100
                                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 12:21 +0100
                                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:50 +0000
                                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:23 +0100
                                    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:24 +0100
                                      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:01 +0000
                                        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:51 +0100
                                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-21 10:16 -0400
                                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 13:52 +0100
                                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:18 -0400
                                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 23:20 +0100
                                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
                                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 12:55 +0100
                                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-26 00:27 +0000
                                  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-20 11:07 +0200
                                    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:29 +0100
                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-19 14:14 -0400
                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 21:18 +0100
                                  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-20 10:51 +0200
                                    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:22 +0100
                                  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-20 20:35 -0400
                                    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:55 +0100
                                      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-03-21 16:24 +0100
                                        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:58 +0000
                                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:29 -0400
                                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:00 +0000
                                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-23 02:01 -0400
                                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:43 +0000
                                      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-21 16:37 -0400
                                      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:57 +0000
                                        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 +0100
                                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-22 09:42 -0400
                                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:20 +0100
                                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 -0400
                                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 20:34 +0100
                                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:02 +0000
                                              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 23:22 +0100
                                                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:42 +0000
                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 23:18 +0000
                    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 09:08 +0100
                      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 13:37 -0400
                        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 19:22 +0100
                          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 14:57 -0400
                            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 21:06 +0100
      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-11 19:56 -0400
    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:16 +0000
      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:03 -0400
        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-12 15:12 +0100
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-12 14:56 -0400
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      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-18 00:21 +1100
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#81160

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 06:57 +0000
Message-ID<vrln0p$3di74$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81155
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:55:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On the other hand, I find that TV sets support for playing media is
> terrible.

Get something like a Kodi box.

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#81164

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 14:00 +0100
Message-ID<vro2blxb56.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81160
On 2025-03-22 07:57, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:55:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On the other hand, I find that TV sets support for playing media is
>> terrible.
> 
> Get something like a Kodi box.

Well, the laptop I already have, and would be gathering dust otherwise. 
Actually, sometimes I run kodi on it.

It is funny, some videos barely run on the laptop using VLC; however, 
they run fine using kodi.

Even if I recode those videos using ffmpeg, VLC can't play them. Sound 
is good, video stalls.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#81165

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2025-03-22 09:42 -0400
Message-ID<vrmeo2$2e4d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81164
On 2025-03-22 09:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-03-22 07:57, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:55:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand, I find that TV sets support for playing media is
>>> terrible.
>>
>> Get something like a Kodi box.
> 
> Well, the laptop I already have, and would be gathering dust otherwise. 
> Actually, sometimes I run kodi on it.
> 
> It is funny, some videos barely run on the laptop using VLC; however, 
> they run fine using kodi.
> 
> Even if I recode those videos using ffmpeg, VLC can't play them. Sound 
> is good, video stalls.
> 
> 
> 
Have you tried recoding with Handbrake? It has worked for me in the past.

TJ

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#81166

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 15:20 +0100
Message-ID<cit2blx5lk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81165
On 2025-03-22 14:42, TJ wrote:
> On 2025-03-22 09:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-03-22 07:57, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:55:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I find that TV sets support for playing media is
>>>> terrible.
>>>
>>> Get something like a Kodi box.
>>
>> Well, the laptop I already have, and would be gathering dust 
>> otherwise. Actually, sometimes I run kodi on it.
>>
>> It is funny, some videos barely run on the laptop using VLC; however, 
>> they run fine using kodi.
>>
>> Even if I recode those videos using ffmpeg, VLC can't play them. Sound 
>> is good, video stalls.
>>
>>
>>
> Have you tried recoding with Handbrake? It has worked for me in the past.

I haven't, but most tools use the same codec libraries.

I tried these:

time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
     -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v libx264 -preset slow -crf 22 -tune fastdecode -profile:v baseline  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
     Dest\ baseline.mkv

time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
     -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v libx264 -preset slow -crf 22 -tune fastdecode -profile:v main  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
     Dest\ -\ main.mkv

time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
     -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v mpeg4 -vtag xvid -qscale:v 3  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
     Dest\ xvid.mkv


I have trouble when the video uses x265. x264 is fine, so I was trying to encode to x264. VLC on that laptop has trouble with those (I do the recoding in another machine that is powerful).


But if kodi can display the video, it is less effort and resources to watch the movies in kodi. It is just curious, as both vlc and kodi link the same libx265.so libraries.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#81167

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 14:00 -0400
Message-ID<vrmtsc$fluo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81166
On Sat, 3/22/2025 10:20 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-03-22 14:42, TJ wrote:
>> On 2025-03-22 09:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-22 07:57, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:55:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, I find that TV sets support for playing media is
>>>>> terrible.
>>>>
>>>> Get something like a Kodi box.
>>>
>>> Well, the laptop I already have, and would be gathering dust otherwise. Actually, sometimes I run kodi on it.
>>>
>>> It is funny, some videos barely run on the laptop using VLC; however, they run fine using kodi.
>>>
>>> Even if I recode those videos using ffmpeg, VLC can't play them. Sound is good, video stalls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Have you tried recoding with Handbrake? It has worked for me in the past.
> 
> I haven't, but most tools use the same codec libraries.
> 
> I tried these:
> 
> time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
>     -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v libx264 -preset slow -crf 22 -tune fastdecode -profile:v baseline  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
>     Dest\ baseline.mkv
> 
> time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
>     -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v libx264 -preset slow -crf 22 -tune fastdecode -profile:v main  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
>     Dest\ -\ main.mkv
> 
> time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
>     -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v mpeg4 -vtag xvid -qscale:v 3  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
>     Dest\ xvid.mkv
> 
> 
> I have trouble when the video uses x265. x264 is fine, so I was trying to encode to x264. VLC on that laptop has trouble with those (I do the recoding in another machine that is powerful).
> 
> 
> But if kodi can display the video, it is less effort and resources to watch the movies in kodi. It is just curious, as both vlc and kodi link the same libx265.so libraries.
> 
> 

Take it all the way back to RAW, then re-code it. Then you can
do bidirectional encoding if you want (for better random seek
behavior). Or for that matter, re-code with only keyframes,
high bitrate, and (almost no) compression :-)

One way to go back to a RAW format, is to store the video frames
as individual pictures in a folder. I've done that before, as
part of experimenting with video.

But don't expect the sound track to stay synchronized. Sound
only remains synced, if the video track and the audio track
have the original timestamps. What you will find on practical
videos, is the sound track speeds up or slows down at random.
If you use a video editor and attempt to "slide" the
sound track with respect to the video track, yes, you can
align the sound at a selected point on the video, but other
parts of the video are then improperly aligned.

*******

You can tell the FFMPEG library to use the hardware decoder
in the iGPU, like the Intel QuickSync encoder/decoder or
the like. You don't always have to use the software decoder
for this.

When you re-code using FFMPEG, you can spec hardware decoding
on input of the video, then software re-encode with the rest
of the FFMPEG command. You can even do the entire job
in hardware (about 10x speedup over software method).
But since NVENC and NVDEC are not switched on in the
Linux FFMPEG, you can recompile from source and
use ./configure to add back NVENC and NVDEC.

Doing this stuff, is more of a "hobby" than a ten minute
project :-) All I wanted to learn, is how long would it
take me to fix a video. My answer to that is
"book two weeks of your time for it".

   Paul

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#81169

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 20:34 +0100
Message-ID<tuf3blx13u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81167
On 2025-03-22 19:00, Paul wrote:
> On Sat, 3/22/2025 10:20 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-03-22 14:42, TJ wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-22 09:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-03-22 07:57, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:55:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, I find that TV sets support for playing media is
>>>>>> terrible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get something like a Kodi box.
>>>>
>>>> Well, the laptop I already have, and would be gathering dust otherwise. Actually, sometimes I run kodi on it.
>>>>
>>>> It is funny, some videos barely run on the laptop using VLC; however, they run fine using kodi.
>>>>
>>>> Even if I recode those videos using ffmpeg, VLC can't play them. Sound is good, video stalls.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Have you tried recoding with Handbrake? It has worked for me in the past.
>>
>> I haven't, but most tools use the same codec libraries.
>>
>> I tried these:
>>
>> time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
>>      -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v libx264 -preset slow -crf 22 -tune fastdecode -profile:v baseline  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
>>      Dest\ baseline.mkv
>>
>> time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
>>      -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v libx264 -preset slow -crf 22 -tune fastdecode -profile:v main  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
>>      Dest\ -\ main.mkv
>>
>> time ffmpeg -i Source\ x265\ .mkv \
>>      -map 0 -vf scale=1920:-1  -c:v mpeg4 -vtag xvid -qscale:v 3  -c:a copy -c:s copy \
>>      Dest\ xvid.mkv
>>
>>
>> I have trouble when the video uses x265. x264 is fine, so I was trying to encode to x264. VLC on that laptop has trouble with those (I do the recoding in another machine that is powerful).
>>
>>
>> But if kodi can display the video, it is less effort and resources to watch the movies in kodi. It is just curious, as both vlc and kodi link the same libx265.so libraries.
>>
>>
> 
> Take it all the way back to RAW, then re-code it. Then you can
> do bidirectional encoding if you want (for better random seek
> behavior). Or for that matter, re-code with only keyframes,
> high bitrate, and (almost no) compression :-)
> 
> One way to go back to a RAW format, is to store the video frames
> as individual pictures in a folder. I've done that before, as
> part of experimenting with video.
> 
> But don't expect the sound track to stay synchronized. Sound
> only remains synced, if the video track and the audio track
> have the original timestamps. What you will find on practical
> videos, is the sound track speeds up or slows down at random.
> If you use a video editor and attempt to "slide" the
> sound track with respect to the video track, yes, you can
> align the sound at a selected point on the video, but other
> parts of the video are then improperly aligned.

Too much work... If kodi can play them, I'm happy.

Some movies have been encoded for 4K and are huge, though.

> 
> *******
> 
> You can tell the FFMPEG library to use the hardware decoder
> in the iGPU, like the Intel QuickSync encoder/decoder or
> the like. You don't always have to use the software decoder
> for this.
> 
> When you re-code using FFMPEG, you can spec hardware decoding
> on input of the video, then software re-encode with the rest
> of the FFMPEG command. You can even do the entire job
> in hardware (about 10x speedup over software method).
> But since NVENC and NVDEC are not switched on in the
> Linux FFMPEG, you can recompile from source and
> use ./configure to add back NVENC and NVDEC.

The CPU in the desktop machine is AMD, and so is the GPU as well.

If you are curious:

Telcontar:~ # inxi -C -GSaz --za --vs
inxi 3.3.31-00 (2023-11-02)
System:
   Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.42-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
     v: 7.5.0 clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
     parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.42-default
     root=UUID=<filter> resume=/dev/disk/by-label/nvme-swap splash=verbose
     verbose
   Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.43 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm
     v: 4.20.0 dm: 1: GDM v: 45.0.1 2: SDDM note: stopped
     Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6
CPU:
   Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X socket: AM4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2
     gen: 3 level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm)
     family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0 microcode: 0x8701034
   Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
     L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB
     L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
   Speed (MHz): avg: 2350 high: 2800 min/max: 2200/4409 boost: enabled
     base/boost: 3800/4400 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand
     volts: 1.1 V ext-clock: 100 MHz cores: 1: 2800 2: 2800 3: 2200 4: 2800
     5: 2200 6: 2200 7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200
     bogomips: 91203
   Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
   Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
   Device-1: AMD Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]
     vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-4
     code: Arctic Islands process: GF 14nm built: 2016-20 pcie: gen: 3
     speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DVI-D-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2,
     HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 27:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:67df class-ID: 0300
     temp: 37.0 C
   Display: unspecified server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1
     compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
     unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
     display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
     s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
   Monitor-1: DVI-D-1 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: Acer H243HX serial: <filter>
     built: 2009 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2
     size: 531x298mm (20.91x11.73") diag: 604mm (23.8") ratio: 16:9 modes:
     max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
   API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 23.3.4 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
     direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon RX 580 Series (radeonsi polaris10
     LLVM 17.0.6 DRM 3.57 6.4.0-150600.23.42-default) device-ID: 1002:67df
     memory: 7.81 GiB unified: no
   API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: AMD
     Radeon RX 580 Series (RADV POLARIS10) driver: N/A device-ID: 1002:67df
     surfaces: xcb,xlib
   API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Telcontar:~ #



> 
> Doing this stuff, is more of a "hobby" than a ten minute
> project :-) All I wanted to learn, is how long would it
> take me to fix a video. My answer to that is
> "book two weeks of your time for it".

Argh!

> 
>     Paul


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#81171

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 22:02 +0000
Message-ID<vrnc1m$rkfk$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81165
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 09:42:26 -0400, TJ wrote:

> On 2025-03-22 09:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> Even if I recode those videos using ffmpeg, VLC can't play them. Sound
>> is good, video stalls.
>> 
> Have you tried recoding with Handbrake? It has worked for me in the
> past.

HandBrake is built on a forked subset of the FFmpeg libraries.

FFmpeg itself offers a host of options for encoding; I’m sure you’ll find 
something that works.

Before I got my Kodi box, I was running a proprietary WD media streamer 
which was very finicky about things. For example, it would not play MPEG-4 
H264 encoded with a pixel format of 4:4:4 (the FFmpeg default), but it was 
fine with 4:2:0.

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#81173

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-03-22 23:22 +0100
Message-ID<1qp3blxg2o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81171
On 2025-03-22 23:02, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 09:42:26 -0400, TJ wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-03-22 09:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Even if I recode those videos using ffmpeg, VLC can't play them. Sound
>>> is good, video stalls.
>>>
>> Have you tried recoding with Handbrake? It has worked for me in the
>> past.
> 
> HandBrake is built on a forked subset of the FFmpeg libraries.
> 
> FFmpeg itself offers a host of options for encoding; I’m sure you’ll find
> something that works.
> 
> Before I got my Kodi box, I was running a proprietary WD media streamer
> which was very finicky about things. For example, it would not play MPEG-4
> H264 encoded with a pixel format of 4:4:4 (the FFmpeg default), but it was
> fine with 4:2:0.

Hum. I have never played with the pixel format.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#81175

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-24 00:42 +0000
Message-ID<vrq9p5$3ko29$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81173
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 23:22:25 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-03-22 23:02, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Before I got my Kodi box, I was running a proprietary WD media
>> streamer which was very finicky about things. For example, it would
>> not play MPEG-4 H264 encoded with a pixel format of 4:4:4 (the
>> FFmpeg default), but it was fine with 4:2:0.
>
> Hum. I have never played with the pixel format.

There are many, many options to play with in video encoding in FFmpeg. 
They exist not (just) for fun, but because they can make a real difference 
in quality as well as compatibility.

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#81132

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-17 23:18 +0000
Message-ID<vraajn$15c6f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81127
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:05:15 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:

> I've actually found NTFS on a USB SSD to be surprisingly widely
> supported on media players and TVs and such. I've used it on Android
> too.

None of which are running Windows. They would all be running some variety 
of Linux kernel (Android definitely so).

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#81112

From"R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
Date2025-03-15 09:08 +0100
Message-ID<vr3cj4$34odf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81110
Lawrence,

> Windows doesn't have the idea that any storage device could be
> hot-pluggable, does it.

Not *any* device, no.  And that has to do with caching as well as 
electronics.

Connecting signal wires before the ground terminal will often cause the 
logics attached to it to "see" stuff that isn't there.  Same kind of problem 
when the power terminal connects and the device is, electrically, 
initializing.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#81113

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-03-15 13:37 -0400
Message-ID<vr4dtb$3vu47$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81112
On Sat, 3/15/2025 4:08 AM, R.Wieser wrote:
> Lawrence,
> 
>> Windows doesn't have the idea that any storage device could be
>> hot-pluggable, does it.
> 
> Not *any* device, no.  And that has to do with caching as well as 
> electronics.
> 
> Connecting signal wires before the ground terminal will often cause the 
> logics attached to it to "see" stuff that isn't there.  Same kind of problem 
> when the power terminal connects and the device is, electrically, 
> initializing.
> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser
> 
> 

And that's why, if you look at the design of hot-plug devices,
you will notice some contacts are longer than others and this
is intended to make them "touch first" on insertion.

As an illustration, the SATA data 7 pin section on the hard drive
looks like this. The grounds are longer than the diff pairs for
transmit and receive (TX+,TX- and RX+,RX-). When you insert the
SATA data connector, the grounds touch first.

         G     G     G
         G D D G D D G

On electronics, you can have multiple levels of contact heights,
intended to "sequence" the electronics when plugged in.

   Paul

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#81114

From"R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
Date2025-03-15 19:22 +0100
Message-ID<vr4gh2$24aq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81113
Paul,

> And that's why, if you look at the design of hot-plug
> devices, you will notice some contacts are longer than
> others and this is intended to make them "touch first"
> on insertion.

I know, you know, and most likely others do too.

And its the reason why you don't try to hot-plug a PATA drive. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#81115

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-03-15 14:57 -0400
Message-ID<vr4ij8$3m81$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81114
On Sat, 3/15/2025 2:22 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
> Paul,
> 
>> And that's why, if you look at the design of hot-plug
>> devices, you will notice some contacts are longer than
>> others and this is intended to make them "touch first"
>> on insertion.
> 
> I know, you know, and most likely others do too.
> 
> And its the reason why you don't try to hot-plug a PATA drive. :-)
> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser
> 
> 

You *can* hot plug a ribbon cable drive.

You need the right kind of housing with the
right kind of connectors on either side, to do it.
It can only be done safely, by using a housed drive,
that slides into a special tray. The special tray
goes to the end-connector on the IDE ribbon (jumpered Master)
and the special tray stays attached to that cable
all the time. The IDE housed drive, slides in or out
of the tray. There is a little ceremony, during removal.

This was not a popular activity at the time,
and you may have a lot of trouble finding
a Google image of the items in question.

This article kinda hints at the detail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

   "Although CF can be hot-pluggable with additional design methods,
    by default when wired directly to an ATA interface, it is
    not intended to be hot-pluggable."

It's the same for the PATA drive. The ribbon cable, considered by itself,
is as the spec summary at the top says:

   General specifications

   Hot pluggable        No

But, by means of redesigning the connectors that mate between the
housing that slides in and out, and the tray it rests in, it
can be made hot-plug compatible.

I had *absolutely no interest* in testing this, and did not
buy samples of the housing as a result :-) It's like a bar bet,
doing stuff like this. But a commercial interest, did sell
housings to do this very thing. Even at the time these were for
sale, the documentation was very poor. You could hardly
tell what they were doing, at the interface level.

   Paul

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#81116

From"R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
Date2025-03-15 21:06 +0100
Message-ID<vr4mjf$75su$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81115
Paul,

> You *can* hot plug a ribbon cable drive.
>
> You need the right kind of housing with the
> right kind of connectors on either side,

:-) You know that, I know that.

> But, by means of redesigning the connectors that mate between
> the housing that slides in and out, and the tray it rests in, it
> can be made hot-plug compatible.

Making sure ground comes first is one part of the equation.  Having
electronics which could withstand the (minimal?) surges that came with
inserting/extracting while powered is another.

> I had *absolutely no interest* in testing this, and did
> not buy samples of the housing as a result :-)

For a while (long ago) I had several operating systems on seperate drives in
trays.  Though in this case (changing the OS) I always powered-down first.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#81099

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-03-11 19:56 -0400
Message-ID<vqqij0$282om$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81094
On Tue, 3/11/2025 8:21 AM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 06:52:17 -0400, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> 
>> Some time ago, I backed up my Laptop's 500GB internal HD to an 2TB
>> external HD using (I forget) ... It might have been 'dd' but I doubt it.
> 
> Depending on how you did it, the backup may be in a file in a partition on the 2TB drive,
> or the partition table may have been copied so that the partitions on the 2TB drive are
> the same as they were on the 500GB drive.
> 
>> However, the 500GB Internals Image took up 500GB on the External (i.e. a
>> byte-by-byte image, even the empty bytes, apparently!).
>>
>> Now, when I look at that External HD using my Win 11 Desk-top, it
>> doesn't 'see' anything.
> 
> WIndows should see an "unknown" file system in the existing partition(s).
> 
>> Is this because Linux is at a 'Higher'/'deeper' level than Windows can
>> 'see'??
> 
> M$ doesn't want to make it easy for windows users to use anything else.
> 
>> If I back-up this Win-11 Desktop to the same External HD, is there a
>> possibility that Win-11 will write itself over the Linux Image?? Or is
>> Win-11 able to detect that there is 'something' there so will go looking
>> for the next available UNUSED portion of the External HD??
> 
> It really matters how the backup was done. Windows may overwrite it or it may
> allow you to create new partitions on the drive. I don't trust windows for anything,
> and haven't used it much since XP. I occasionally troubleshoot things for others,
> but try to avoid it as much as I can.
> 
> Don't write anything to the drive until you know exactly what is on there. Working
> with low level tools like dd make it easy to wipe out data with a single typo.
> 
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

A Macrium Rescue CD (a windows ecosystem product), can back up
Windows file systems, as well as EXTm file systems. Depending
on which version you use, it may not be compatible with C12 feature
(because C12 feature came after the Macrium was released). It might
take a paid version of Macrium to handle that (which is why people
create "features" this late in the life of a filesystem).

*Nothing* prevents a Windows ecosystem backup product from
backing up (at-rest) ZFS, BTRFS, EXT, ReiserFS and so on.
All that is needed, is enough of a driver to measure and determine
which inodes need to be recorded (and restored later), in the
backup .img file .

I finally got a hit, on a list that gives some notion of capability.
For example, Disk Genius (untested, country of origin unknown). There
is a lot of URL monkey business in the industry, call it astroturfing
and you never know when a new company appears, whether it isn't just
one of the older companies re-branding for profit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_cloning_software

   Paul

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#81098

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-03-11 18:16 +0000
Message-ID<wwv1pv38mb4.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#81092
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> writes:
> Some time ago, I backed up my Laptop's 500GB internal HD to an 2TB
> external HD using (I forget) ... It might have been 'dd' but I doubt
> it.

A backup that you don’t know how to restore isn’t really any use.

> However, the 500GB Internals Image took up 500GB on the External
> (i.e. a byte-by-byte image, even the empty bytes, apparently!).
>
> Now, when I look at that External HD using my Win 11 Desk-top, it
> doesn't 'see' anything.

Look at it with a Linux box instead.

> If I back-up this Win-11 Desktop to the same External HD, is there a
> possibility that Win-11 will write itself over the Linux Image?? Or is
> Win-11 able to detect that there is 'something' there so will go
> looking for the next available UNUSED portion of the External HD??

Not possible to say, since you don’t say how you made the backup.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#81100

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-03-11 20:03 -0400
Message-ID<vqqj05$28505$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81098
On Tue, 3/11/2025 2:16 PM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> writes:
>> Some time ago, I backed up my Laptop's 500GB internal HD to an 2TB
>> external HD using (I forget) ... It might have been 'dd' but I doubt
>> it.
> 
> A backup that you don’t know how to restore isn’t really any use.
> 
>> However, the 500GB Internals Image took up 500GB on the External
>> (i.e. a byte-by-byte image, even the empty bytes, apparently!).
>>
>> Now, when I look at that External HD using my Win 11 Desk-top, it
>> doesn't 'see' anything.
> 
> Look at it with a Linux box instead.
> 
>> If I back-up this Win-11 Desktop to the same External HD, is there a
>> possibility that Win-11 will write itself over the Linux Image?? Or is
>> Win-11 able to detect that there is 'something' there so will go
>> looking for the next available UNUSED portion of the External HD??
> 
> Not possible to say, since you don’t say how you made the backup.
> 

sudo apt install disktype      # An application having a small source size, but quite capable

sudo disktype /dev/sda         # check a hard drive (needs elevation with sudo)

     file     my.img           # Check if the format is recognizable
     disktype my.img           # If it is a dd img, display the partition information

  Paul

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#81103

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-03-12 15:12 +0100
Message-ID<kah8alxj0f.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81100
On 2025-03-12 01:03, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 3/11/2025 2:16 PM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> writes:
>>> Some time ago, I backed up my Laptop's 500GB internal HD to an 2TB
>>> external HD using (I forget) ... It might have been 'dd' but I doubt
>>> it.
>>
>> A backup that you don’t know how to restore isn’t really any use.
>>
>>> However, the 500GB Internals Image took up 500GB on the External
>>> (i.e. a byte-by-byte image, even the empty bytes, apparently!).
>>>
>>> Now, when I look at that External HD using my Win 11 Desk-top, it
>>> doesn't 'see' anything.
>>
>> Look at it with a Linux box instead.
>>
>>> If I back-up this Win-11 Desktop to the same External HD, is there a
>>> possibility that Win-11 will write itself over the Linux Image?? Or is
>>> Win-11 able to detect that there is 'something' there so will go
>>> looking for the next available UNUSED portion of the External HD??
>>
>> Not possible to say, since you don’t say how you made the backup.
>>
> 
> sudo apt install disktype      # An application having a small source size, but quite capable

Do you know where to find its source?

My distro doesn't have it.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#81104

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-03-12 14:56 -0400
Message-ID<vqslca$2onst$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81103
On Wed, 3/12/2025 10:12 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-03-12 01:03, Paul wrote:
>> On Tue, 3/11/2025 2:16 PM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> writes:
>>>> Some time ago, I backed up my Laptop's 500GB internal HD to an 2TB
>>>> external HD using (I forget) ... It might have been 'dd' but I doubt
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> A backup that you don’t know how to restore isn’t really any use.
>>>
>>>> However, the 500GB Internals Image took up 500GB on the External
>>>> (i.e. a byte-by-byte image, even the empty bytes, apparently!).
>>>>
>>>> Now, when I look at that External HD using my Win 11 Desk-top, it
>>>> doesn't 'see' anything.
>>>
>>> Look at it with a Linux box instead.
>>>
>>>> If I back-up this Win-11 Desktop to the same External HD, is there a
>>>> possibility that Win-11 will write itself over the Linux Image?? Or is
>>>> Win-11 able to detect that there is 'something' there so will go
>>>> looking for the next available UNUSED portion of the External HD??
>>>
>>> Not possible to say, since you don’t say how you made the backup.
>>>
>>
>> sudo apt install disktype      # An application having a small source size, but quite capable
> 
> Do you know where to find its source?
> 
> My distro doesn't have it.
> 

https://disktype.sourceforge.net/

(  https://sourceforge.net/projects/disktype/  )

   Paul

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