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"Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it??

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First post2025-01-30 18:39 +1100
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  "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 18:39 +1100
    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-30 03:21 -0500
      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 22:05 +1100
        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-30 12:27 +0100
          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 18:54 +1100
            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-31 14:06 +0100
          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 19:26 +1100
            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 06:56 -0500
              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 00:02 +1100
        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-30 07:15 -0500
          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 18:55 +1100
    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-01-30 09:08 +0000
      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 22:14 +1100
        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-01-30 12:49 +0000
    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-01-30 12:33 +0100
      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 19:11 +1100
        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:27 +0100
          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 00:20 +1100
    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-30 16:31 +0000
      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-30 12:35 -0600
        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-06 01:49 +0000
          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-06 13:38 +0000
            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-02-09 10:44 +0000
            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-18 00:41 +0000
              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-18 11:05 +0000
                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-18 11:57 +0000
                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-20 15:48 +0000
                  Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-20 16:33 +0000
      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 18:44 +1100
        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:42 +0000
          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 20:12 +1100
            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-02-02 09:31 +0000
              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 06:24 -0500
              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-05 22:28 +1100
                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-05 22:41 +1100
                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-05 12:51 +0000
                  Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-10 20:35 +1100
                    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-10 10:14 +0000
                      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:42 +1100
                        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:47 +1100
                          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:52 +1100
                            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 21:13 +1100
                            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-11 11:24 +0000
                              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 23:03 +1100
                              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-12 20:58 +1100
                                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-12 10:11 +0000
                                  Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-12 11:56 +0100
                                    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:35 +1100
                                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-12 11:10 +0000
                                  Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:45 +1100
                                    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-13 11:10 +0000
                                      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:03 +1100
                                        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-14 11:06 +0000
                                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-12 11:27 +0000
                                  Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:56 +1100
                                    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-13 16:19 +0000
                                      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:05 +1100
                            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-11 13:47 +0100
                              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 21:00 +1100
                              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 21:08 +1100
                                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-13 16:31 +0000
                                  Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-13 22:18 +0100
                                    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-14 16:24 +0000
                                      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-17 20:57 +0100
                                  Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:09 +1100
                                    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:37 +1100
                                      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-14 16:06 +0000
                                        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-15 20:13 +1100
                            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-11 22:00 +0000
                        Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-11 10:31 +0000
                          Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 23:07 +1100
                            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-11 12:25 +0000
                              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-12 21:07 +1100
                                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-12 11:06 +0000
                    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 11:14 +0000
                      Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:12 +0100
            Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-06 01:57 +0000
              Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-10 20:53 +1100
                Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:16 +0100
    Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dabe Vlohn <tar@tara.bar> - 2025-03-30 18:32 +0000

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#80942

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-11 20:52 +1100
Message-ID<vof6lk$1nhfv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80941
On 11/02/2025 8:47 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 11/02/2025 8:42 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 10/02/2025 9:14 pm, Graham J wrote:
>>> Daniel70 wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals 
>>>> ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi 
>>>> connecting on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal.
>>>
>>> You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you.  "Wi-Fi 
>>> connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless access point, 
>>> (probably one in a router)".  What you want is "make phone function 
>>> as a wireless access point".
>>>
>>> To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but the 
>>> terminology may vary from one phone to another.  So exactly what make 
>>> and model of phone do you have?
>>
>> Mobile Phone model Aspera Jazz 2 and I have now turned Wi-Fi hotspot 
>> 'On'. It tells me I am using WPA2 PSK Security (does that mean 
>> anything?),there is a (12 Digit) Hotspot password and is using the 
>> 2.4GHz AP Band
>>>
>>> Once you have enabled the hotspot you should see a new WiFi signal on 
>>> your computer.  The name of this WiFi signal will be something 
>>> relating to the make and model of phone.
>>
>> .... and what do you know .... there is a 'Aspera Jazz 2' Hotspot 
>> device showing up on my Computers list of possible connections ..... 
>> so here I go!!!!
>>
>> It seems to suggest it has connected via 'Aspera JAZZ 2' and the 
>> Mobile phone is now showing 'Android system     Tethering or Hotspot 
>> active 1 connected 0 blocked'.
>>
>> But .....
>> "Sending of the message failed.
>> The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server 
>> failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. 
>> Please verify that your news server settings are correct and try again."
>>
>> So I've re-enabled the Telco Modem Wi-Fi and here we are!! (I hope!!)
> 
> Did I just have a 'Doh!!' moment?? When I picked up my mobile phone to 
> turn off the 'Hotspot and Tethering' .... and realised I hadn't actually 
> turned ON the phone's mobile data function .... so, second time around 
> .....

And, Lo and Behold!! I have uploaded a message to the Internet and 
downloaded that same message from the Internet .... and starting the 
Browser function of my SeaMonkey Suite and I can SEE WEBSITES!!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!

(Now to remember to keep a check on how much of my 4.5GB Mobile Phone 
Data I'm using .... until my normal account becomes re-active on about 
the 20th of the month.)

Thank you!! Thank you! Thank you. ;-)
-- 
Daniel70

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#80943

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-11 21:13 +1100
Message-ID<vof7t2$1noff$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80942
On 11/02/2025 8:52 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 11/02/2025 8:47 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 11/02/2025 8:42 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 10/02/2025 9:14 pm, Graham J wrote:
>>>> Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [snip]
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi
>>>>> signals ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when
>>>>> I enable Wi-Fi connecting on the phone .... the Computer
>>>>> DOESN'T 'find' a new signal.
>>>> 
>>>> You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you.
>>>> "Wi-Fi connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless
>>>> access point, (probably one in a router)".  What you want is
>>>> "make phone function as a wireless access point".
>>>> 
>>>> To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but
>>>> the terminology may vary from one phone to another.  So exactly
>>>> what make and model of phone do you have?
>>> 
>>> Mobile Phone model Aspera Jazz 2 and I have now turned Wi-Fi
>>> hotspot 'On'. It tells me I am using WPA2 PSK Security (does that
>>> mean anything?),there is a (12 Digit) Hotspot password and is
>>> using the 2.4GHz AP Band
>>>> 
>>>> Once you have enabled the hotspot you should see a new WiFi
>>>> signal on your computer.  The name of this WiFi signal will be
>>>> something relating to the make and model of phone.
>>> 
>>> .... and what do you know .... there is a 'Aspera Jazz 2' Hotspot
>>>  device showing up on my Computers list of possible connections
>>> ..... so here I go!!!!
>>> 
>>> It seems to suggest it has connected via 'Aspera JAZZ 2' and the
>>>  Mobile phone is now showing 'Android system     Tethering or
>>> Hotspot active 1 connected 0 blocked'.
>>> 
>>> But ..... "Sending of the message failed. The message could not
>>> be posted because connecting to the news server failed. The
>>> server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please
>>> verify that your news server settings are correct and try
>>> again."
>>> 
>>> So I've re-enabled the Telco Modem Wi-Fi and here we are!! (I
>>> hope!!)
>> 
>> Did I just have a 'Doh!!' moment?? When I picked up my mobile phone
>> to turn off the 'Hotspot and Tethering' .... and realised I hadn't
>>  actually turned ON the phone's mobile data function .... so,
>> second time around .....
> 
> And, Lo and Behold!! I have uploaded a message to the Internet and 
> downloaded that same message from the Internet .... and starting the
>  Browser function of my SeaMonkey Suite and I can SEE WEBSITES!!
> 
> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!
> 
> (Now to remember to keep a check on how much of my 4.5GB Mobile Phone
>  Data I'm using .... until my normal account becomes re-active on
> about the 20th of the month.)
> 
> Thank you!! Thank you! Thank you. ;-)

And, of course, having 4.5GB of data available on my mobile phone 
account counts for nothing if I don't have any (cash money) Credit 
available on my PAYG Phone account.

I guess I'll try this all, again, tomorrow .... after transfering so 
money to my Phone account!! ;-(
-- 
Daniel70

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#80945

FromGraham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
Date2025-02-11 11:24 +0000
Message-ID<vofc12$1odo0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80942
Daniel70 wrote:

[snip]

>> Did I just have a 'Doh!!' moment?? When I picked up my mobile phone to 
>> turn off the 'Hotspot and Tethering' .... and realised I hadn't 
>> actually turned ON the phone's mobile data function 

Other people here warned you about making this mistake ...

.... so, second
>> time around .....
> 
> And, Lo and Behold!! I have uploaded a message to the Internet and 
> downloaded that same message from the Internet .... and starting the 
> Browser function of my SeaMonkey Suite and I can SEE WEBSITES!!
> 
> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!

It's actually quite easy when you follow the instructions correctly!



-- 
Graham J

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#80946

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-11 23:03 +1100
Message-ID<vofe9k$1orgp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80945
On 11/02/2025 10:24 pm, Graham J wrote:
> Daniel70 wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>> Did I just have a 'Doh!!' moment?? When I picked up my mobile phone 
>>> to turn off the 'Hotspot and Tethering' .... and realised I hadn't 
>>> actually turned ON the phone's mobile data function 
> 
> Other people here warned you about making this mistake ...
> 
> .... so, second
>>> time around .....
>>
>> And, Lo and Behold!! I have uploaded a message to the Internet and 
>> downloaded that same message from the Internet .... and starting the 
>> Browser function of my SeaMonkey Suite and I can SEE WEBSITES!!
>>
>> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!
> 
> It's actually quite easy when you follow the instructions correctly!

WHAT?? "Instructions"!! We don't need no 'instructions'!! ;-)
-- 
Daniel70

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#80952

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-12 20:58 +1100
Message-ID<vohrbf$29crp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80945
On 11/02/2025 10:24 pm, Graham J wrote:
> Daniel70 wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>> Did I just have a 'Doh!!' moment?? When I picked up my mobile phone 
>>> to turn off the 'Hotspot and Tethering' .... and realised I hadn't 
>>> actually turned ON the phone's mobile data function 
> 
> Other people here warned you about making this mistake ...
> 
> .... so, second
>>> time around .....
>>
>> And, Lo and Behold!! I have uploaded a message to the Internet and 
>> downloaded that same message from the Internet .... and starting the 
>> Browser function of my SeaMonkey Suite and I can SEE WEBSITES!!
>>
>> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!
> 
> It's actually quite easy when you follow the instructions correctly!

Quite easy ..... but expensive!! I went down to the local Council 
Library (to make use of their Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to 
my Mobile phone account .... and, tonight, connected via my Tethered 
phone and, with-in about 30 minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 
credit.

Tomorrow, I might try loading $35 Mobile Data and see what the 
difference is.

In either case, I don't see this as a long term solution to my 
situation. ;-(
-- 
Daniel70

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#80954

FromGraham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
Date2025-02-12 10:11 +0000
Message-ID<vohs56$29hpb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80952
Daniel70 wrote:

[snip]

> 
> Quite easy ..... but expensive!! I went down to the local Council 
> Library (to make use of their Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to 
> my Mobile phone account .... and, tonight, connected via my Tethered 
> phone and, with-in about 30 minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 
> credit.
> 
> Tomorrow, I might try loading $35 Mobile Data and see what the 
> difference is.
> 
> In either case, I don't see this as a long term solution to my 
> situation. ;-(

Have you thought about moving to the UK?  Here you could get an 
unlimited landline connection for about £35 per month.  Then - depending 
on your location - you could get 100Mbits/sec download, 20 Mbits/sec 
upload using a fibre connection.




-- 
Graham J

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#80955

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-02-12 11:56 +0100
Message-ID<2bbu7lx12h.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#80954
On 2025-02-12 11:11, Graham J wrote:
> Daniel70 wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>
>> Quite easy ..... but expensive!! I went down to the local Council 
>> Library (to make use of their Internet connection) and loaded $35 on 
>> to my Mobile phone account .... and, tonight, connected via my 
>> Tethered phone and, with-in about 30 minutes, had used up almost all 
>> of my $35 credit.

I don't know how many gigabytes is that. What did you (Daniel) do, 
download movies?

>>
>> Tomorrow, I might try loading $35 Mobile Data and see what the 
>> difference is.
>>
>> In either case, I don't see this as a long term solution to my 
>> situation. ;-(
> 
> Have you thought about moving to the UK?  Here you could get an 
> unlimited landline connection for about £35 per month.  Then - depending 
> on your location - you could get 100Mbits/sec download, 20 Mbits/sec 
> upload using a fibre connection.

I have  622.67 Mbps down,  617.86 Mbps up; latency 10 ms, fluctuation 
1ms (Telefónica Spain, fibre to the home). Measured on 
<https://www.movistar.es/test-de-velocidad/>

I can't give you a figure for the connection price, because mine 
includes the fixed phone, mobile phone, and TV.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#80959

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-13 20:35 +1100
Message-ID<vokedp$2rh7s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80955
On 12/02/2025 9:56 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-02-12 11:11, Graham J wrote:
>> Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>
>>> Quite easy ..... but expensive!! I went down to the local Council 
>>> Library (to make use of their Internet connection) and loaded $35 on 
>>> to my Mobile phone account .... and, tonight, connected via my 
>>> Tethered phone and, with-in about 30 minutes, had used up almost all 
>>> of my $35 credit.
> 
> I don't know how many gigabytes is that. What did you (Daniel) do, 
> download movies?

Nope! Basically, I just started up my SeaMonkey Suite, let its 
Newsreader get the 'New post' numbers from each of my 40 or so NGs, 
started the IRC screen (two very quite channels) then opened my six tab 
Browser screen ..... and, almost immediately, I started getting messages 
from my Mobile Phone provider telling me I was running out of Credit.

I had to close the Browser and switch back to my Landline Telco .... at 
the very much reduced download speed. ;-(

>>> Tomorrow, I might try loading $35 Mobile Data and see what the 
>>> difference is.
>>>
>>> In either case, I don't see this as a long term solution to my 
>>> situation. ;-(
>>
>> Have you thought about moving to the UK?  Here you could get an 
>> unlimited landline connection for about £35 per month.

.... but what would the Airfares be in the mean time??

>>  Then - 
>> depending on your location - you could get 100Mbits/sec download, 20 
>> Mbits/sec upload using a fibre connection.

That's the sort of speeds I usually enjoy! ;-P

> I have  622.67 Mbps down,  617.86 Mbps up; latency 10 ms, fluctuation 
> 1ms (Telefónica Spain, fibre to the home). Measured on 
> <https://www.movistar.es/test-de-velocidad/>
> 
> I can't give you a figure for the connection price, because mine 
> includes the fixed phone, mobile phone, and TV.
> 
Yeah, my Landline phone costs me about $15 every couple of months for 
the phone service, $35 a month for the Landline Internet service and, on 
the Mobile phone, my $35 PAYG usually lasts me a couple of months or 
more .... my usage isn't that great!! ;-P
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Daniel70

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#80957

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2025-02-12 11:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvqp0cj.983.dan@djph.net>
In reply to#80952
On 2025-02-12, Daniel70 wrote:
> ... I went down to the local Council Library (to make use of their
> Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to my Mobile phone account ....
> and, tonight, connected via my Tethered phone and, with-in about 30
> minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 credit.

What does $35 represent in terms of "additional data allowance"?  1GB,
2, 10?

And what were you doing in those 30 minutes? General internet browsing
(basic websites, email, TEXT Usenet, etc), or something more intensive
(youtube, system updates, etc.)

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#80960

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-13 20:45 +1100
Message-ID<vokev3$2rk0r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80957
On 12/02/2025 10:10 pm, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On 2025-02-12, Daniel70 wrote:
>> ... I went down to the local Council Library (to make use of their
>> Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to my Mobile phone account ....
>> and, tonight, connected via my Tethered phone and, with-in about 30
>> minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 credit.
> 
> What does $35 represent in terms of "additional data allowance"?  1GB,
> 2, 10?

Unknown. I think (part of) my problem is/was I was paying for Phone 
(voice) service .... where-as the Mobile Telco does offer to sell me 
'DATA' separately to the (voice) 'phone' service.

I don't know how the Telco differentiates between Voice Zeros and Ones 
and Data Zeros and Ones ..... but what would I know??

> And what were you doing in those 30 minutes? General internet browsing
> (basic websites, email, TEXT Usenet, etc), or something more intensive
> (youtube, system updates, etc.)
> 
As I mentioned elsewhere, just getting my SeaMonkey 
Browser/Newsgroups/IRC up and running.
-- 
Daniel70

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#80964

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2025-02-13 11:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvqrkp1.983.dan@djph.net>
In reply to#80960
On 2025-02-13, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 12/02/2025 10:10 pm, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> On 2025-02-12, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> ... I went down to the local Council Library (to make use of their
>>> Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to my Mobile phone account ....
>>> and, tonight, connected via my Tethered phone and, with-in about 30
>>> minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 credit.
>> 
>> What does $35 represent in terms of "additional data allowance"?  1GB,
>> 2, 10?
>
> Unknown. I think (part of) my problem is/was I was paying for Phone 
> (voice) service .... where-as the Mobile Telco does offer to sell me 
> 'DATA' separately to the (voice) 'phone' service.

Well, that'd be something to look into.  For all any of us know, you
topped up on voice minutes, and didn't add anything to "data allowance".

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#80968

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-14 22:03 +1100
Message-ID<von7ti$3ef4d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80964
On 13/02/2025 10:10 pm, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On 2025-02-13, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 12/02/2025 10:10 pm, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-12, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> ... I went down to the local Council Library (to make use of their
>>>> Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to my Mobile phone account ....
>>>> and, tonight, connected via my Tethered phone and, with-in about 30
>>>> minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 credit.
>>>
>>> What does $35 represent in terms of "additional data allowance"?  1GB,
>>> 2, 10?
>>
>> Unknown. I think (part of) my problem is/was I was paying for Phone
>> (voice) service .... where-as the Mobile Telco does offer to sell me
>> 'DATA' separately to the (voice) 'phone' service.
> 
> Well, that'd be something to look into.  For all any of us know, you
> topped up on voice minutes, and didn't add anything to "data allowance".
> 
That IS correct, Dan, .... if I had wanted 'DATA', I had to make a 
selection elsewhere.

When I get my Telco Internet service sorted (next Friday, I think), then 
I might have a pay with my Mobile account and see what happens if I but 
$35 of DATA. How long will that last with my computer Tethered to it.
-- 
Daniel70

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#80970

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2025-02-14 11:06 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvqu8t3.983.dan@djph.net>
In reply to#80968
On 2025-02-14, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 13/02/2025 10:10 pm, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> On 2025-02-13, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 12/02/2025 10:10 pm, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-12, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> ... I went down to the local Council Library (to make use of their
>>>>> Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to my Mobile phone account ....
>>>>> and, tonight, connected via my Tethered phone and, with-in about 30
>>>>> minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 credit.
>>>>
>>>> What does $35 represent in terms of "additional data allowance"?  1GB,
>>>> 2, 10?
>>>
>>> Unknown. I think (part of) my problem is/was I was paying for Phone
>>> (voice) service .... where-as the Mobile Telco does offer to sell me
>>> 'DATA' separately to the (voice) 'phone' service.
>> 
>> Well, that'd be something to look into.  For all any of us know, you
>> topped up on voice minutes, and didn't add anything to "data allowance".
>> 
> That IS correct, Dan, .... if I had wanted 'DATA', I had to make a 
> selection elsewhere.
>
> When I get my Telco Internet service sorted (next Friday, I think), then 
> I might have a pay with my Mobile account and see what happens if I but 
> $35 of DATA. How long will that last with my computer Tethered to it.

Depends on 

  (A) what $35 worth of "DATA" actually is (I would hope that it's below
      $0.50 / GB), AND
  (B) how much data you actually use in a given time period.




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#80958

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-02-12 11:27 +0000
Message-ID<voi43f.107c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#80952
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 11/02/2025 10:24 pm, Graham J wrote:
[...]
> > It's actually quite easy when you follow the instructions correctly!
> 
> Quite easy ..... but expensive!! I went down to the local Council 
> Library (to make use of their Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to 
> my Mobile phone account .... and, tonight, connected via my Tethered 
> phone and, with-in about 30 minutes, had used up almost all of my $35 
> credit.
> 
> Tomorrow, I might try loading $35 Mobile Data and see what the 
> difference is.
> 
> In either case, I don't see this as a long term solution to my 
> situation. ;-(

  The first upping of your credit by $35 was probably a normal recharge
and you paid data via a PAYG (Pay As You Go) charge, which normally is
very high per MB.

  What you plan to do apparently is bying a 'data pack' of $35. That
should indeed be much cheaper per MB, i.e. $35 will give you more MB/GB
of mobile data than the first recharge.

  BUT, all providers and 'plans' are different, so YMMV/YMWV.

  BTW, who is your mobile provider (if different from your network) and
what is your 'plan'?

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#80961

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-13 20:56 +1100
Message-ID<vokfk3$2rnaj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80958
On 12/02/2025 10:27 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> On 11/02/2025 10:24 pm, Graham J wrote:
> [...]
>>> It's actually quite easy when you follow the instructions correctly!
>>
>> Quite easy ..... but expensive!! I went down to the local Council
>> Library (to make use of their Internet connection) and loaded $35 on to
>> my Mobile phone account .... and, tonight, connected via my Tethered
>> phone and, with-in about 30 minutes, had used up almost all of my $35
>> credit.
>>
>> Tomorrow, I might try loading $35 Mobile Data and see what the
>> difference is.
>>
>> In either case, I don't see this as a long term solution to my
>> situation. ;-(
> 
>    The first upping of your credit by $35 was probably a normal recharge
> and you paid data via a PAYG (Pay As You Go) charge, which normally is
> very high per MB.
> 
>    What you plan to do apparently is bying a 'data pack' of $35. That
> should indeed be much cheaper per MB, i.e. $35 will give you more MB/GB
> of mobile data than the first recharge.
> 
>    BUT, all providers and 'plans' are different, so YMMV/YMWV.

Yes, when I get the landline ISP all up and running (next 
Thursday/Friday, I think), I might start 'playing' with my Mobile Phone 
account .... see what happens if I buy 'Mobile Data' and connect my 
Computer via the Mobile Phone.

>    BTW, who is your mobile provider (if different from your network) and
> what is your 'plan'?
> 
I purchase my 'plan' from Aldimobile .... you know, the Grocery 
Supermarket firm!! Her in Australia, they use the Telstra Mobile 
Network. Telstra is the major Australian Landline Phone Service (used to 
be Government owned!!)

As for my 'plan', 'Pay As You Go'!! If I make zero phone calls and don't 
use any data, my $35 lasts for twelve months.
-- 
Daniel70

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#80965

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-02-13 16:19 +0000
Message-ID<vol9ij.lfc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#80961
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 12/02/2025 10:27 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[...]
> >    BTW, who is your mobile provider (if different from your network) and
> > what is your 'plan'?
> > 
> I purchase my 'plan' from Aldimobile .... you know, the Grocery 
> Supermarket firm!! Her in Australia, they use the Telstra Mobile 
> Network. Telstra is the major Australian Landline Phone Service (used to 
> be Government owned!!)
> 
> As for my 'plan', 'Pay As You Go'!! If I make zero phone calls and don't 
> use any data, my $35 lasts for twelve months.

  According to the aldimobile.com.au website, for the 'PAYG' plan, data
costs 6c per MB [1], so $35 will give you only 583MB, which is very,
very little in today's world.

  I don't see anywhere where you can add a 'data pack' to a 'PAYG' plan.
(I could do that with our Telstra PAYG-like plan).

  I think you would have to switch to one of the 'Mobile Plans' which
include data (and calls and SMS), but that would result in a monthly
cost.

  It's probably best to raise this issue - 'low' cost data on a PAYG
plan - in one of the Aussie groups, aus.comms.mobile or/and
aus.computers. See you there! :-)

[1] <https://www.aldimobile.com.au/collections/payg>

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#80969

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-14 22:05 +1100
Message-ID<von81q$3ef4d$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80965
On 14/02/2025 3:19 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> On 12/02/2025 10:27 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> [...]
>>>     BTW, who is your mobile provider (if different from your network) and
>>> what is your 'plan'?
>>>
>> I purchase my 'plan' from Aldimobile .... you know, the Grocery
>> Supermarket firm!! Her in Australia, they use the Telstra Mobile
>> Network. Telstra is the major Australian Landline Phone Service (used to
>> be Government owned!!)
>>
>> As for my 'plan', 'Pay As You Go'!! If I make zero phone calls and don't
>> use any data, my $35 lasts for twelve months.
> 
>    According to the aldimobile.com.au website, for the 'PAYG' plan, data
> costs 6c per MB [1], so $35 will give you only 583MB, which is very,
> very little in today's world.
> 
>    I don't see anywhere where you can add a 'data pack' to a 'PAYG' plan.
> (I could do that with our Telstra PAYG-like plan).
> 
>    I think you would have to switch to one of the 'Mobile Plans' which
> include data (and calls and SMS), but that would result in a monthly
> cost.
> 
>    It's probably best to raise this issue - 'low' cost data on a PAYG
> plan - in one of the Aussie groups, aus.comms.mobile or/and
> aus.computers. See you there! :-)
> 
> [1] <https://www.aldimobile.com.au/collections/payg>
> 
Thanks for your input, Frank.
-- 
Daniel70

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#80949

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-02-11 13:47 +0100
Message-ID<8gtr7lxjii.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#80942
On 2025-02-11 10:52, Daniel70 wrote:
> (Now to remember to keep a check on how much of my 4.5GB Mobile Phone 
> Data I'm using .... until my normal account becomes re-active on about 
> the 20th of the month.)

Remember that you can tell Windows that the connection is metered. You 
should do this, even if for now you do not expect windows to do updates.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#80962

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-13 21:00 +1100
Message-ID<vokfr7$2rorv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80949
On 11/02/2025 11:47 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-02-11 10:52, Daniel70 wrote:
>> (Now to remember to keep a check on how much of my 4.5GB Mobile Phone 
>> Data I'm using .... until my normal account becomes re-active on about 
>> the 20th of the month.)
> 
> Remember that you can tell Windows that the connection is metered. You 
> should do this, even if for now you do not expect windows to do updates.
> 
On the 'do not expect windows to do updates' point, it is my intention 
tomorrow to take my Computer to my Sister's place (about a kilometer 
away) and use her Internet connection to download my updates!!

(Hopefully, I don't suck HER Internet Account dry!! ;-) )
-- 
Daniel70

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#80963

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-02-13 21:08 +1100
Message-ID<vokgbn$2rrg5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80949
On 11/02/2025 11:47 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-02-11 10:52, Daniel70 wrote:
>> (Now to remember to keep a check on how much of my 4.5GB Mobile Phone 
>> Data I'm using .... until my normal account becomes re-active on about 
>> the 20th of the month.)
> 
> Remember that you can tell Windows that the connection is metered. You 
> should do this, even if for now you do not expect windows to do updates.
> 
Additionally, I usually use Linux for my Day-to-Day usage. On my (now 
defunct'ish) Win 7 Laptop, each Wednesday I'd boot into Win7 (for which 
MicroSoft had ceased releasing routine updates), update my Anti-Virus 
(AVG Free) and do a complete scan ..... then boot back into Linux.

As MicroSoft is still releasing updates for Win 11, if I ever get Win 11 
running correctly, I'll probably adopt a similar practise.

When do MicroSoft release their 'normal' updates?? First Tuesday of the 
month?? Second?? Third??
-- 
Daniel70

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