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  reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-25 17:53 +0200
    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Alfonso P Cutaway <dweed54@gmail.com> - 2019-06-25 16:01 +0000
      Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-06-25 19:03 +0200
        Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Alfonso P Cutaway <dweed54@gmail.com> - 2019-06-25 18:08 +0000
          Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-06-25 21:44 +0200
            Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Alfonso P Cutaway <dweed54@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 00:37 +0000
              Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-06-26 10:50 +0200
                Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Alfonso P Cutaway <dweed54@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 19:43 +0000
                  Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-26 22:37 +0200
                    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Alfonso P Cutaway <dweed54@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 20:55 +0000
                      Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-26 23:29 +0200
                  Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 23:50 +0200
                    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Alfonso P Cutaway <dweed54@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 22:50 +0000
                    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-28 12:50 +0000
                      Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-28 12:56 +0000
                  Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-06-27 11:10 +0200
                    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-27 12:39 +0200
                      Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-06-27 14:43 +0200
                        Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-27 15:57 +0200
          Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 01:03 +0200
            Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Alfonso P Cutaway <dweed54@gmail.com> - 2019-06-26 00:38 +0000
    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-25 11:18 -0500
      Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 01:02 +0200
        Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 01:08 +0200
    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-25 11:48 -0500
    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-06-25 16:14 -0400
      Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 01:13 +0200
        Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-26 08:37 +0000
          Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 12:29 +0200
            Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-26 06:55 -0500
            Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-26 12:15 +0000
            Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-26 12:35 +0000
              Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 15:44 +0200
                Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-26 14:00 +0000
                  Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 21:01 +0200
                    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-26 23:05 +0000
                      Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-27 12:27 +0200
                        Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-27 13:53 +0000
    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-26 10:13 +0000
    Re: reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 12:49 +0200

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#57246 — reading / writing the color of an absolute pixel (x,y) of the physical screen

It might be one of the lowest level "API" of Xwindows or 
other window manager.

Can anybody tell me which Libraries to rely on and some 
synthax to invoke those methods in user code ?

I suspect Xwindows code source is simply TOO HUGE for me to 
sieve it and just get out this couple of lowest level 
functions (and eventual dependencies).

Maybe I do not even understand the possible risks, as in 
this topic I still think in term of aged windows versions 
(there I had to ask for SCREEN handle, then declare the API, 
invoke API, and resident apis, no need to load anything 
else, and understand the data type in/out and the _CDECL 
declspec for ordering of parameters and stack cleanup C-like)

now Linux is native in C, so I won't have problems in 
understanding the exchange requirements .... but I 
completely ignore for example if I would have the RIGHTS 
(privilege) to invoke function from loaded external 
libraries and services ... particularly when writing the 
screen is concerned I'd could possibly mess up other 
windows, even if temporarily).

Some reading for suggestion ?

NOTICE : I do not need a complete program to pickup colors 
and draw, as it would be amazingly slow. I need to directly 
call lowest level functions just in use of the graphical 
system running (which I suppose to be very fast)

TY

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1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

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#57247

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:53:27 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:

Previous drivel removed

> 
> NOTICE : I do not need a complete program to pickup colors and draw, as
> it would be amazingly slow. I need to directly call lowest level
> functions just in use of the graphical system running (which I suppose
> to be very fast)
> 
> TY

Attention....this Mario poster is a bot, plain and simple......It used to 
inhabit the alt.os.linux.mint group and post the same insane questions 
there. It was finally exposed as a bot and left in a huff, now it has re-
appeared in alt.os.linux group.

There a some very good hearted and well meaning and very knowledgeable  
linux users in this newsgroup. Please ignore this Soviet Mario bot and 
it's ridiculous questions, it will only tie you up in knots.....just 
ignore it and it will go away....maybe to a Windows newsgroup.....I can 
only hope.



-- 
Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver. Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy 
of Windows.

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#57251

Al,

> Attention....this Mario poster is a bot,
....
> and left in a huff

That does not compute.   Bots (still) do not have feelings, and as such do 
not leave "in a huff".

> Please ignore this Soviet Mario bot and it's ridiculous questions

Pray tell, what is "ridiculous" about wanting to do some low-level (fast) 
pixel manipulation ?

What is the chance that you are (maliciously) trolling ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#57252

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:03:48 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

> Al,
> 
>> Attention....this Mario poster is a bot,
> ....
>> and left in a huff
> 
> That does not compute.   Bots (still) do not have feelings, and as such
> do not leave "in a huff".
> 
>> Please ignore this Soviet Mario bot and it's ridiculous questions
> 
> Pray tell, what is "ridiculous" about wanting to do some low-level
> (fast) pixel manipulation ?
> 
> What is the chance that you are (maliciously) trolling ?
> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser

Rudy,
You will see if Soviet is a bot or not.....just be patient.....



-- 
Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver. Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy 
of Windows.

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#57254

Al,

> Rudy,
> You will see if Soviet is a bot or not.....just be patient.....

Even though I've made rather clear that that "bot" description of yours 
cannot be correct you keep using it.   Why ?

Also, I've not seen you answer my explicit question, nor have you even 
/tried/ to describe how other threads he started here are "ridiculous". 
Why ?

And if you can't find them in this newsgroup than you would certainly be 
able to point to some posts in that newsgroup you referred to, right ?   But 
you did not do that either.  Why ?


If-and-when you want to blackball someone you need to do better than to come 
up with some "it will happen some day" FUD I'm afraid.   Responding to 
simple statements and questions would be good idea too.   Currently you only 
have gained some extra troll points I'm afraid.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#57261

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:44:18 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

> Al,
> 
>> Rudy,
>> You will see if Soviet is a bot or not.....just be patient.....
> 
> Even though I've made rather clear that that "bot" description of yours
> cannot be correct you keep using it.   Why ?
> 
> Also, I've not seen you answer my explicit question, nor have you even
> /tried/ to describe how other threads he started here are "ridiculous".
> Why ?
> 
> And if you can't find them in this newsgroup than you would certainly be
> able to point to some posts in that newsgroup you referred to, right ?  
> But you did not do that either.  Why ?
> 
> 
> If-and-when you want to blackball someone you need to do better than to
> come up with some "it will happen some day" FUD I'm afraid.   Responding
> to simple statements and questions would be good idea too.   Currently
> you only have gained some extra troll points I'm afraid.
> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser

Rudy,
Look thru the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup for say the last year. Read 
some of it's posts concerning linux partitions, multiple installs of 
different linux distros on same hd and wanting to use the same /home for 
different distros. Check out it's post concerning the home remodeling it 
says it did on a home in Italy, in the mint newsgroup.

I should be more clear, Mario (the bot) creators left the newsgroup in a 
huff and took their bot (Mario) with them. They have now relaunched it in 
this newsgroup.....



-- 
Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver. Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy 
of Windows.

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#57267

Al,

> Look thru the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup for say the last year.

I did.    I see you had next to zero communication with the OP in the last 
two years, with the OP having quite a number of conversations with other 
people in that time.

But I see something I do not like: Me (rather explicitily) asking for 
references to the material that offends you, and you again requiring I find 
it myself.    Thats a red flag to me.

> Read some of it's posts concerning linux partitions, multiple installs of
> different linux distros on same hd and wanting to use the same /home for
> different distros.

Yes, I read that one here.    Although I can imagine that some stuff would 
clash I do not see or classify that as a "bot" (whatever you mean by that, 
you still haven't explained) type of question.

And for the record: If it isn't possibile than I would imagine you (or 
someone else) would be able to (reasily?) point out /why/ that would not 
work.    Have you ?

Also: You might not see any benefits in it (and possibly even see how easily 
it c|would collapse), but that does not mean that the OP should not try his 
best to try it anyway - and learn from it.

And a problem: I cannot seem to find that "in a huff" post/thread you are 
referring to.  Not even an argument that looks like it could have caused it. 
Care to specify (post a reference) ?

> I should be more clear, Mario (the bot) creators left the newsgroup
> in a huff and took their bot (Mario) with them. They have now
> relaunched it in this newsgroup.....

And the reason why you think that Mario is a bot  is ...?

Suggestion: Do not try to use your "ridiculous" classification to create a 
circular argument.


Bottom line, you have (again) not provided anything specific.  Which does 
not give me any confidence in regard to your statements towards the OP. 
Quite the opposite actually.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#57286

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 10:50:39 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

> Al,
> 
>> Look thru the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup for say the last year.
> 
> I did.    I see you had next to zero communication with the OP in the
> last two years, with the OP having quite a number of conversations with
> other people in that time.
> 
> But I see something I do not like: Me (rather explicitily) asking for
> references to the material that offends you, and you again requiring I
> find it myself.    Thats a red flag to me.
> 
>> Read some of it's posts concerning linux partitions, multiple installs
>> of different linux distros on same hd and wanting to use the same /home
>> for different distros.
> 
> Yes, I read that one here.    Although I can imagine that some stuff
> would clash I do not see or classify that as a "bot" (whatever you mean
> by that, you still haven't explained) type of question.
> 
> And for the record: If it isn't possibile than I would imagine you (or
> someone else) would be able to (reasily?) point out /why/ that would not
> work.    Have you ?
> 
> Also: You might not see any benefits in it (and possibly even see how
> easily it c|would collapse), but that does not mean that the OP should
> not try his best to try it anyway - and learn from it.
> 
> And a problem: I cannot seem to find that "in a huff" post/thread you
> are referring to.  Not even an argument that looks like it could have
> caused it.
> Care to specify (post a reference) ?
> 
>> I should be more clear, Mario (the bot) creators left the newsgroup in
>> a huff and took their bot (Mario) with them. They have now relaunched
>> it in this newsgroup.....
> 
> And the reason why you think that Mario is a bot  is ...?
> 
> Suggestion: Do not try to use your "ridiculous" classification to create
> a circular argument.
> 
> 
> Bottom line, you have (again) not provided anything specific.  Which
> does not give me any confidence in regard to your statements towards the
> OP. Quite the opposite actually.
> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser

If you are to lazy to lookup references yourself, don't expect other 
people to do the work for you. You are now beginning to sound like a 
Bernie supporter aka "Snowflake"

"Plonk"



-- 
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of Windows.

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#57288

On 26/06/2019 21.43, Alfonso P Cutaway wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 10:50:39 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
> 
>> Al,
>>
>>> Look thru the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup for say the last year.
>>
>> I did.    I see you had next to zero communication with the OP in the
>> last two years, with the OP having quite a number of conversations with
>> other people in that time.
>>
>> But I see something I do not like: Me (rather explicitily) asking for
>> references to the material that offends you, and you again requiring I
>> find it myself.    Thats a red flag to me.
>>
>>> Read some of it's posts concerning linux partitions, multiple installs
>>> of different linux distros on same hd and wanting to use the same /home
>>> for different distros.
>>
>> Yes, I read that one here.    Although I can imagine that some stuff
>> would clash I do not see or classify that as a "bot" (whatever you mean
>> by that, you still haven't explained) type of question.
>>
>> And for the record: If it isn't possibile than I would imagine you (or
>> someone else) would be able to (reasily?) point out /why/ that would not
>> work.    Have you ?
>>
>> Also: You might not see any benefits in it (and possibly even see how
>> easily it c|would collapse), but that does not mean that the OP should
>> not try his best to try it anyway - and learn from it.
>>
>> And a problem: I cannot seem to find that "in a huff" post/thread you
>> are referring to.  Not even an argument that looks like it could have
>> caused it.
>> Care to specify (post a reference) ?
>>
>>> I should be more clear, Mario (the bot) creators left the newsgroup in
>>> a huff and took their bot (Mario) with them. They have now relaunched
>>> it in this newsgroup.....
>>
>> And the reason why you think that Mario is a bot  is ...?
>>
>> Suggestion: Do not try to use your "ridiculous" classification to create
>> a circular argument.
>>
>>
>> Bottom line, you have (again) not provided anything specific.  Which
>> does not give me any confidence in regard to your statements towards the
>> OP. Quite the opposite actually.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rudy Wieser
> 
> If you are to lazy to lookup references yourself, don't expect other 
> people to do the work for you. You are now beginning to sound like a 
> Bernie supporter aka "Snowflake"
> 
> "Plonk"

No. The people claiming something out of the ordinary are those that
have to prove it.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#57289

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 22:37:10 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 26/06/2019 21.43, Alfonso P Cutaway wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 10:50:39 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
>> 
>>> Al,
>>>
>>>> Look thru the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup for say the last year.
>>>
>>> I did.    I see you had next to zero communication with the OP in the
>>> last two years, with the OP having quite a number of conversations
>>> with other people in that time.
>>>
>>> But I see something I do not like: Me (rather explicitily) asking for
>>> references to the material that offends you, and you again requiring I
>>> find it myself.    Thats a red flag to me.
>>>
>>>> Read some of it's posts concerning linux partitions, multiple
>>>> installs of different linux distros on same hd and wanting to use the
>>>> same /home for different distros.
>>>
>>> Yes, I read that one here.    Although I can imagine that some stuff
>>> would clash I do not see or classify that as a "bot" (whatever you
>>> mean by that, you still haven't explained) type of question.
>>>
>>> And for the record: If it isn't possibile than I would imagine you (or
>>> someone else) would be able to (reasily?) point out /why/ that would
>>> not work.    Have you ?
>>>
>>> Also: You might not see any benefits in it (and possibly even see how
>>> easily it c|would collapse), but that does not mean that the OP should
>>> not try his best to try it anyway - and learn from it.
>>>
>>> And a problem: I cannot seem to find that "in a huff" post/thread you
>>> are referring to.  Not even an argument that looks like it could have
>>> caused it.
>>> Care to specify (post a reference) ?
>>>
>>>> I should be more clear, Mario (the bot) creators left the newsgroup
>>>> in a huff and took their bot (Mario) with them. They have now
>>>> relaunched it in this newsgroup.....
>>>
>>> And the reason why you think that Mario is a bot  is ...?
>>>
>>> Suggestion: Do not try to use your "ridiculous" classification to
>>> create a circular argument.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bottom line, you have (again) not provided anything specific.  Which
>>> does not give me any confidence in regard to your statements towards
>>> the OP. Quite the opposite actually.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rudy Wieser
>> 
>> If you are to lazy to lookup references yourself, don't expect other
>> people to do the work for you. You are now beginning to sound like a
>> Bernie supporter aka "Snowflake"
>> 
>> "Plonk"
> 
> No. The people claiming something out of the ordinary are those that
> have to prove it.

Another do it for me Snowflake.....

"Plonk"



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#57291

On 26/06/2019 22.55, Alfonso P Cutaway wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 22:37:10 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 26/06/2019 21.43, Alfonso P Cutaway wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 10:50:39 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al,
>>>>
>>>>> Look thru the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup for say the last year.
>>>>
>>>> I did.    I see you had next to zero communication with the OP in the
>>>> last two years, with the OP having quite a number of conversations
>>>> with other people in that time.
>>>>
>>>> But I see something I do not like: Me (rather explicitily) asking for
>>>> references to the material that offends you, and you again requiring I
>>>> find it myself.    Thats a red flag to me.
>>>>
>>>>> Read some of it's posts concerning linux partitions, multiple
>>>>> installs of different linux distros on same hd and wanting to use the
>>>>> same /home for different distros.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I read that one here.    Although I can imagine that some stuff
>>>> would clash I do not see or classify that as a "bot" (whatever you
>>>> mean by that, you still haven't explained) type of question.
>>>>
>>>> And for the record: If it isn't possibile than I would imagine you (or
>>>> someone else) would be able to (reasily?) point out /why/ that would
>>>> not work.    Have you ?
>>>>
>>>> Also: You might not see any benefits in it (and possibly even see how
>>>> easily it c|would collapse), but that does not mean that the OP should
>>>> not try his best to try it anyway - and learn from it.
>>>>
>>>> And a problem: I cannot seem to find that "in a huff" post/thread you
>>>> are referring to.  Not even an argument that looks like it could have
>>>> caused it.
>>>> Care to specify (post a reference) ?
>>>>
>>>>> I should be more clear, Mario (the bot) creators left the newsgroup
>>>>> in a huff and took their bot (Mario) with them. They have now
>>>>> relaunched it in this newsgroup.....
>>>>
>>>> And the reason why you think that Mario is a bot  is ...?
>>>>
>>>> Suggestion: Do not try to use your "ridiculous" classification to
>>>> create a circular argument.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line, you have (again) not provided anything specific.  Which
>>>> does not give me any confidence in regard to your statements towards
>>>> the OP. Quite the opposite actually.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rudy Wieser
>>>
>>> If you are to lazy to lookup references yourself, don't expect other
>>> people to do the work for you. You are now beginning to sound like a
>>> Bernie supporter aka "Snowflake"
>>>
>>> "Plonk"
>>
>> No. The people claiming something out of the ordinary are those that
>> have to prove it.
> 
> Another do it for me Snowflake.....
> 
> "Plonk"

Welcome. Point proven.


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#57292

On 26.06.2019 at 19:43, Alfonso P Cutaway scribbled:

> You are now beginning to sound like a Bernie supporter aka "Snowflake"
> 
> "Plonk"
 
And <plonk> you too.  If you have to draw in US-centric politics into a
debate that has nothing to do with either the US or politics just so
as to insult someone you don't even know, then you're a bigot, and there
are so many bigots already that you certainly won't be missed in my news
feed.

You stupid bipartisan nutcases think that the USA lies at the center of
the universe.  Well, it doesn't — not even close, and if you were to
pull your heads out of your bigoted asses, you'd see that.

Here's another one for ya: You're obviously pro-capitalism, right?
Well, do you use an ad blocker in your browser?  If your answer is
"yes", then you're not just a bigot, but also a hypocrite.

And now into the loony bin with you.

-- 
No cheers,
= Aragorn =

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#57293

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 23:50:44 +0200, Aragorn wrote:

> On 26.06.2019 at 19:43, Alfonso P Cutaway scribbled:
> 
>> You are now beginning to sound like a Bernie supporter aka "Snowflake"
>> 
>> "Plonk"
>  
> And <plonk> you too.  If you have to draw in US-centric politics into a
> debate that has nothing to do with either the US or politics just so as
> to insult someone you don't even know, then you're a bigot, and there
> are so many bigots already that you certainly won't be missed in my news
> feed.
> 
> You stupid bipartisan nutcases think that the USA lies at the center of
> the universe.  Well, it doesn't — not even close, and if you were to
> pull your heads out of your bigoted asses, you'd see that.
> 
> Here's another one for ya: You're obviously pro-capitalism, right? Well,
> do you use an ad blocker in your browser?  If your answer is "yes", then
> you're not just a bigot, but also a hypocrite.
> 
> And now into the loony bin with you.



"Plonk" Another Euro idiot....

-- 
Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver. Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy 
of Windows.

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#57309

Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote in
news:20190626235044.01749a3f@nx-74205: 

> On 26.06.2019 at 19:43, Alfonso P Cutaway scribbled:
> 
>> You are now beginning to sound like a Bernie supporter aka
>> "Snowflake" 
>> 
>> "Plonk"
>  
> And <plonk> you too.  If you have to draw in US-centric politics
> into a debate that has nothing to do with either the US or
> politics just so as to insult someone you don't even know, then
> you're a bigot, and there are so many bigots already that you
> certainly won't be missed in my news feed.
> 
> You stupid bipartisan nutcases think that the USA lies at the
> center of the universe.  Well, it doesn't — not even close, and
> if you were to pull your heads out of your bigoted asses, you'd
> see that. 
> 
> Here's another one for ya: You're obviously pro-capitalism, right?
> Well, do you use an ad blocker in your browser?  If your answer is
> "yes", then you're not just a bigot, but also a hypocrite.
> 
> And now into the loony bin with you.
> 

  Hey back on thread...  I was in my MAME emulator looking to play 
an old legacy game as I do from time to time...  I recently DLd 
updates to the PCB and cabinet pics, etc, history and what nots...

  Thing is, this emulator can load those game ROMs and play the 
game, but the real purpose of the MAME development was to analyze 
the CPUs being used...

  So as I browse, I notice that some smart dude put in pics and such 
of some very old computers, so I sort by date, and sure enough, just 
about everything we made over here and everything y'all made over 
there is in there.  Not all of it, mind you, but a whole lot of 
hardware pics and such to browse through, so this 'APP' is worth 
DLing and the picture libraries and NO ROMs of hundreds of GB.

  You could name some old obscure piece of gear you worked with back 
in the seventies or eighties, and there is a good chance it is in 
there and a pic or two.

  I guess one could do the same on google, but being able to scroll 
through several different makers of gear is not something google 
does well.

  So I look up a DEC VT100, and I see a screen that shows the array 
and talks about it, and shows "double height font" (interesting).

  The Xerox piece is there...

  Computing equipment from as far back as 1948 is in there.

  Handheld calculators, electronic battleship.

 Sorted by CPU is cool too.

  Oh and that is all via the MAME app that allows one to browse the 
available packages.

  Mine actually has game ROMs and I have something like 155GB of the 
artwork and ROMs, etc.

 A lot more cool than when all it did was play old games.

  Name a CPU or machine you remember and I'll see if it calls up.

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#57311

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:qf52e8$1t73$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

>   Oh and that is all via the MAME app that allows one to browse the 
> available packages.

  Probably help if I named it

  IV/Play frontend for MAME.

  

<http://www.mameui.info/>

  The "MameUI64" is for Win users.

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#57296

Al,

> If you are to lazy to lookup references yourself,
> don't expect other people to do the work for you.

:-)  You lost.

Claiming stuff about other people but refusing to underbuild it, instead 
demanding that we should just find /your/ reasons (we obviously need to 
exfiltrate the base for by reading your mind) ourselves - in a rather big 
trove of messages.

You're just /screaming/ "I haven't got anything to go on" to me there.

> You are now beginning to sound like a Bernie
> supporter aka "Snowflake"

Ah yes.   The old "If they do not agree with you than villify them" tactics.

Kiddo, I gave you ample opportunity to underbuild your claims, but you have 
refused to do so.  You *are* a  malicious troll, nothing more (for reasons 
still unknown).

And for your "plonk"ing ?   Thats just you running away (admitting defeat) 
from someone who called you out.

But, I'm going to return the favour.   Guess why.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s.
Notice the responses from others you got ?    You seem to have forgotten 
that our conversation is not at all private (if it would have been private I 
probably would just have "plonked" you on your first post - it was /because/ 
it was public that I engaged with you).

I'm afraid your attempt to smear someone here has led in you tainting your 
own name.    Funny how that works. :-)

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#57298

On 27/06/19 11:10, R.Wieser wrote:
> Al,
> 
>> If you are to lazy to lookup references yourself,
>> don't expect other people to do the work for you.
> 
> :-)  You lost.
> 
> Claiming stuff about other people but refusing to underbuild it, instead
> demanding that we should just find /your/ reasons (we obviously need to
> exfiltrate the base for by reading your mind) ourselves - in a rather big
> trove of messages.
> 
> You're just /screaming/ "I haven't got anything to go on" to me there.
> 
>> You are now beginning to sound like a Bernie
>> supporter aka "Snowflake"
> 
> Ah yes.   The old "If they do not agree with you than villify them" tactics.
> 
> Kiddo, I gave you ample opportunity to underbuild your claims, but you have
> refused to do so.  You *are* a  malicious troll, nothing more (for reasons
> still unknown).
> 
> And for your "plonk"ing ?   Thats just you running away (admitting defeat)
> from someone who called you out.
> 
> But, I'm going to return the favour.   Guess why.
> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser
> 
> P.s.
> Notice the responses from others you got ?    You seem to have forgotten
> that our conversation is not at all private (if it would have been private I
> probably would just have "plonked" you on your first post - it was /because/
> it was public that I engaged with you).
> 
> I'm afraid your attempt to smear someone here has led in you tainting your
> own name.    Funny how that works. :-)
> 
> 

anyway ... Rudy, make yourself the gift to judge other 
peoples independently, from what they have written. Here no 
secret dossiers or covert activity. I never morphed and will 
never trash a nickname just for "some" people develop an 
allergic reaction to the "Soviet" qualifier. If they do, 
it's their problem. I submit a lot of questions, that's sure 
(but often IT), nevertheless noone is forced to answer.

Myself I find that many tend to think a thing is easy when 
themselves find it easy, while I'm still limited by having 
used windows for some 1990-2017 and linux 2017-2019.
Not that I had never been a power user for windows too ! I 
just learned to deepen some limited aspects that I needed, 
but I was just an user even there, and for every tweeking I 
relied on dedicated pieces of SW.
anyway, I cut the long story short :)
Ciao

-- 
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

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#57299

Soviet_Mario,

> anyway ... Rudy, make yourself the gift to judge other peoples 
> independently, from what they have written.

Indeed.    Thats why I asked Al to post references.

You see, I do not mind at all being warned about someones bad behaviour so I 
do not fall into the same pit.    But I /do/ have the need to verify it for 
myself.   Something Al there obviously did not recon with.

>I never morphed and will never trash a nickname just for "some" people 
>develop an allergic reaction to the "Soviet" qualifier

Was that this is all about ? Al disliking that part of your nym ? 
Goodness.

I (ofcourse) noticed your nym, and was curious for a few seconds about what 
would have been the basis of it (game related I assumed).   But as it did 
not matter one way or the other to me (in relation to the thread or 
otherwise) I forgot all about it.

> Myself I find that many tend to think a thing is easy when themselves find 
> it easy, while I'm still limited by having used windows for some 1990-2017 
> and linux 2017-2019.

Most often it is just a non-novice not being able to remember their own 
novice days.   Although most realize/acknowledge it when its pointed out to 
them, some think its their good right to expect someone who has questions to 
just know/understand whatever they are saying.  The whole explaining part is 
a bit (far?) beyond them.    And then there are people who just regurgitate, 
with no inclination to know the why of their "facts".

Yep, been there, done that and got thoroughly disgusted. :-(

> I just learned to deepen some limited aspects that I needed, but I was 
> just an user even there, and for every tweeking I relied on dedicated 
> pieces of SW.

Its the same I, and probably most people here do.   If its already available 
and you like it, use it.   Otherwise, try to write it yourself.

In my case I sometimes succumb to the wish to be able to write an already 
existing program myself.  You know, just to see if I can. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#57301

On 27/06/19 14:43, R.Wieser wrote:
> Soviet_Mario,
> 
>> anyway ... Rudy, make yourself the gift to judge other peoples
>> independently, from what they have written.
> 
> Indeed.    Thats why I asked Al to post references.
> 
> You see, I do not mind at all being warned about someones bad behaviour so I
> do not fall into the same pit.    But I /do/ have the need to verify it for
> myself.   Something Al there obviously did not recon with.
> 
>> I never morphed and will never trash a nickname just for "some" people
>> develop an allergic reaction to the "Soviet" qualifier
> 
> Was that this is all about ? Al disliking that part of your nym ?
> Goodness.

with some trollshit, yes

but there are also many other that find annoying my (alleged 
!) lazyness and stubborness, but imvho this is a question of 
perceptions, of subjective needs, time, way of life and 
work, and many other differences that conduct to 
misunderstanding

> 
> I (ofcourse) noticed your nym, and was curious for a few seconds about what
> would have been the basis of it (game related I assumed).   But as it did
> not matter one way or the other to me (in relation to the thread or
> otherwise) I forgot all about it.

in fact i never spoke of politics per sé (even if when it 
comes to other side effects of it, like privacy and other 
topics, i feel in the right place here on linux while i had 
to flee from windows world). But I gave minimal contribution 
to such discussions i deem


> 
>> Myself I find that many tend to think a thing is easy when themselves find
>> it easy, while I'm still limited by having used windows for some 1990-2017
>> and linux 2017-2019.
> 
> Most often it is just a non-novice not being able to remember their own
> novice days.   Although most realize/acknowledge it when its pointed out to
> them, some think its their good right to expect someone who has questions to
> just know/understand whatever they are saying. 

the first source of divergence here (i think) is an implicit 
assumption that a good linux user should consider a degree 
in linux OS as the top priority of his life :)


> The whole explaining part is
> a bit (far?) beyond them.    And then there are people who just regurgitate,
> with no inclination to know the why of their "facts".
> 
> Yep, been there, done that and got thoroughly disgusted. :-(
> 
>> I just learned to deepen some limited aspects that I needed, but I was
>> just an user even there, and for every tweeking I relied on dedicated
>> pieces of SW.
> 
> Its the same I, and probably most people here do.   If its already available
> and you like it, use it.   Otherwise, try to write it yourself.
> 
> In my case I sometimes succumb to the wish to be able to write an already
> existing program myself.  You know, just to see if I can. :-)

in the ninety and till 2005 maybe I was so, then the hurry 
increased. In fact I tried some EXISTING programs before 
(StegoSuite) with PARTIAL satisfaction. Hence the decision 
to put the hands at it.
I'm trying very hard to break Visual Studio addiction ... 
but it's really difficult.

Ciao !


> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser
> 
> 


-- 
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

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#57258

On 25/06/19 20:08, Alfonso P Cutaway wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:03:48 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
> 
>> Al,
>>
>>> Attention....this Mario poster is a bot,
>> ....
>>> and left in a huff
>>
>> That does not compute.   Bots (still) do not have feelings, and as such
>> do not leave "in a huff".
>>
>>> Please ignore this Soviet Mario bot and it's ridiculous questions
>>
>> Pray tell, what is "ridiculous" about wanting to do some low-level
>> (fast) pixel manipulation ?
>>
>> What is the chance that you are (maliciously) trolling ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rudy Wieser
> 
> Rudy,
> You will see if Soviet is a bot or not.....just be patient.....
> 

cuban anti-Castrist refugee ? :)

roll in your hate and have fun

> 
> 


-- 
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
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