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Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief

Started bybad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net>
First post2025-07-12 00:45 -0400
Last post2025-08-03 06:29 -0400
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  Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-12 00:45 -0400
    Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-12 03:04 -0400
      Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-12 11:02 -0400
        Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-12 17:24 +0200
        Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-12 19:14 -0400
          Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-12 20:46 -0400
            Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-13 01:58 -0400
              Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-13 11:35 +0200
                Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-13 19:20 -0400
                  Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-13 22:20 -0400
                  Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-14 01:36 -0400
                    Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-15 19:26 -0400
                      Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 04:44 -0400
                        Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-16 09:34 -0400
                          Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 11:11 -0400
                            Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-16 17:19 -0400
                              new board ..Re: Asus x870e: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-31 22:48 -0400
                                Re: new board ..Re: Asus x870e: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-01 05:16 -0400
                                Re: new board ..Re: Asus x870e: more grief Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-08-02 14:59 +0300
                                  Re: new board ..Re: Asus x870e: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-08-03 06:29 -0400
    Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-12 10:23 +0200
      Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-07-12 08:53 -0400
        Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-12 17:11 +0200
    Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 14:02 +0200
      Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:41 -0400
        Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 19:49 +0200
      Re: Asus x870e Proart Creator motherboard: more grief bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-08-03 06:29 -0400

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#81689

From"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Date2025-07-12 10:23 +0200
Message-ID<mdekcgFrbhuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#81687
On 12/07/2025 06.45, bad sector wrote:
> Minutes after the last posts I went into BIOS to take out the CPU native 
> GPU by setting Integrated Graphics to Disabled and leaving the PCIe GPU 
> as Primary. 

Have you tweaked the RAM settings in the BIOS? If so, reset to default 
values.


If I had bought an AM5 board, I would have gone for x670 based one 
instead, those are better feature wise regardless of brand.

-- 
  //Aho

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#81690

Frombad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net>
Date2025-07-12 08:53 -0400
Message-ID<AeKdnb001NhBx-_1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#81689
On 7/12/25 4:23 AM, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 12/07/2025 06.45, bad sector wrote:
>> Minutes after the last posts I went into BIOS to take out the CPU 
>> native GPU by setting Integrated Graphics to Disabled and leaving the 
>> PCIe GPU as Primary. 
> 
> Have you tweaked the RAM settings in the BIOS? If so, reset to default 
> values.
> 
> If I had bought an AM5 board, I would have gone for x670 based one 
> instead, those are better feature wise regardless of brand.

Next whatever I buy sure as muck ain't gonna be Asus, not for decades! I 
would never tweak ram, don't even wanna hear about OC, and it's always 
been defaults. I can't get to BIOS, not until the green (boot) LED 
lights up, there's no point in wearing out the Del key before that. I'll 
try Paul's advice with my teaser ddr5 but the LED now is about GPU, not 
ram anymore.

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#81692

From"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Date2025-07-12 17:11 +0200
Message-ID<mdfc92Fh03U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#81690
On 12/07/2025 14.53, bad sector wrote:
> On 7/12/25 4:23 AM, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> On 12/07/2025 06.45, bad sector wrote:
>>> Minutes after the last posts I went into BIOS to take out the CPU 
>>> native GPU by setting Integrated Graphics to Disabled and leaving the 
>>> PCIe GPU as Primary. 
>>
>> Have you tweaked the RAM settings in the BIOS? If so, reset to default 
>> values.
>>
>> If I had bought an AM5 board, I would have gone for x670 based one 
>> instead, those are better feature wise regardless of brand.
> 
> Next whatever I buy sure as muck ain't gonna be Asus, not for decades! I 
> would never tweak ram, don't even wanna hear about OC, and it's always 
> been defaults.

I'm a kind of a default person too, I wish for boards that could UC 
(under clock) things a bit, for less heat and maybe slightly longer life.

I have loved my ASUS boards a lot, but MSI are dreadful, specially disk 
storage are slow and needs tweaking to work.

I have had issues with GPU, but the reason is the computer case, which I 
had used for quite many years, been loving it, but using PCIe based GPU 
cards been a pita, it's having the motherboard a bit too low on the port 
side, which makes the GPU card to not be properly installed, sure you 
can add a mm on the distances on the port side, but then you may have 
port a bit covered, so in worst case test things outside the computer 
case, just be careful to not electrocute yourself.

> I can't get to BIOS, not until the green (boot) LED 
> lights up, there's no point in wearing out the Del key before that. I'll 
> try Paul's advice with my teaser ddr5 but the LED now is about GPU, not 
> ram anymore.

Yeah, it's a sane way to test.

-- 
  //Aho

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#81833

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-08-01 14:02 +0200
Message-ID<tumullxpqg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81687
On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:
> On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)

Sure?

My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector 
for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.

Google confirms:

AI Overview
ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in 
speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps 
from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate 
system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS 
motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose 
problems.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#81834

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-08-01 09:41 -0400
Message-ID<106ig6a$djom$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#81833
On Fri, 8/1/2025 8:02 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:
>> On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)
> 
> Sure?
> 
> My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.
> 
> Google confirms:
> 
> AI Overview
> ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
> The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose problems.
> 
> 

OEM boards, like a Dell motherboard, they use a piezo beeper, black in color,
the size of a quarter or so. It is soldered to the board.

Retail motherboards use a small speaker, the small speaker is SUPPOSED to be
in the computer case. However, costly fancy computer cases don't have the
speaker any more. The speaker is "8 ohm 0.25W" as printed on the back.

This means, users are ripping the speaker out of older computers and
stuffing the speaker into a new computer (while they debug).

My newest PC, is using the beep speaker pulled from an Apple computer :-)
The tones sound so much better, when they come from an Apple Speaker.
The sounds are "richer" :-)

   Paul

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#81835

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-08-01 19:49 +0200
Message-ID<cabvllxpb1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81834
On 2025-08-01 15:41, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 8/1/2025 8:02 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:
>>> On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)
>>
>> Sure?
>>
>> My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.
>>
>> Google confirms:
>>
>> AI Overview
>> ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
>> The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose problems.
>>
>>
> 
> OEM boards, like a Dell motherboard, they use a piezo beeper, black in color,
> the size of a quarter or so. It is soldered to the board.
> 
> Retail motherboards use a small speaker, the small speaker is SUPPOSED to be
> in the computer case. However, costly fancy computer cases don't have the
> speaker any more. The speaker is "8 ohm 0.25W" as printed on the back.

Yes. Exactly my experience.

> 
> This means, users are ripping the speaker out of older computers and
> stuffing the speaker into a new computer (while they debug).

Well, Amazon sold me a bag of such speakers/beepers for a trifle.

> 
> My newest PC, is using the beep speaker pulled from an Apple computer :-)
> The tones sound so much better, when they come from an Apple Speaker.
> The sounds are "richer" :-)

:-DDD

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#81838

Frombad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net>
Date2025-08-03 06:29 -0400
Message-ID<NTqdnX1z-a6EpxL1nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#81833
On 8/1/25 8:02 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:
>> On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)
> 
> Sure?
> 
> My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector 
> for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.
> 
> Google confirms:
> 
> AI Overview
> ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
> The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in 
> speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps 
> from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate 
> system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS 
> motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose 
> problems.


The horn used to be connected to pins in the panel group but it's not 
there anymore. There are some undocumented pinouts, probably for 
testing, one of them you can only get to before installing any of the 
larger cpu coolers.

The qLEDs are a very good idea as they provide loads of info 
_possibilities_ with their combinations but none of that is documented 
either. You get shorter and longer flashes of different coolors but 
nothing is written in the manual*. (* word used extremely liberally). I 
suspect one could write many pages of decoding guidance.

The BIOS display itself also sucks like Electrolux! Why does it have to 
be black?  Where's the option of getting rid of all the totally idiotic 
graphical 'smearings'? Too many Darwin laureates in the design cubicles? 
I understand and am in no position to totally reject EFI bios but as far 
as presentation goes the 'new' interfacing of otherwise traditionally 
itemizable switches is RIDICULOUS. All of it could fit on one page but 
there you are with a 4k monitor and two or three words per 'page' 
because no one knows (or gives a shit about) how to compose displays and 
dialogs anymore.

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