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| Started by | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| First post | 2025-03-21 05:55 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-04-05 22:57 +0000 |
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Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-21 05:55 +0000
A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-03-24 19:15 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 22:55 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-25 08:33 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Tango Romeo <TangoRomero@snope.com> - 2025-03-25 20:09 -0600
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-28 19:50 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-28 15:13 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-28 18:04 -0500
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-28 17:33 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-29 06:35 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-29 13:33 +0100
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-29 17:41 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-29 16:00 -0500
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-30 06:30 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-30 17:04 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-03-31 09:16 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-31 11:04 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> - 2025-03-31 11:59 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-31 19:42 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> - 2025-03-31 18:40 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2025-04-02 09:28 +0100
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2025-04-02 18:10 +0100
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2025-04-03 00:35 +0100
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2025-04-03 06:57 +0100
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-31 10:49 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-31 18:06 -0500
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-01 10:55 +1300
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-31 22:29 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-31 10:59 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-31 16:05 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-31 19:45 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-31 22:32 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-02 02:10 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-02 09:03 +0100
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 12:58 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-03 09:34 +1300
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-02 23:38 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-03 14:15 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-04-04 18:25 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-04-04 18:28 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-05 00:34 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-07 18:57 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 20:34 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-08 00:45 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 00:01 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-08 02:37 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 06:07 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-08 19:19 +1000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 10:25 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> - 2025-04-08 10:28 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-08 13:07 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 18:00 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:37 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 20:03 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-11 09:31 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 08:57 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:35 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 20:43 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-11 09:36 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 09:29 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-13 14:07 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-11 17:39 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 19:01 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-13 14:09 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-13 14:08 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-13 13:57 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-14 13:18 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-14 16:58 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-14 15:48 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-14 22:01 +0200
Android full backup. (was: A good thing or a bad thing) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-15 13:18 +0000
Re: Android full backup. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-15 18:22 +0200
Re: Android full backup. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-15 18:27 +0000
Re: Android full backup. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-15 23:31 +0200
Re: Android full backup. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-15 23:24 -0400
Re: Android full backup. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 05:24 +0000
Re: Android full backup. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-18 17:36 +0000
Re: Android full backup. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-18 10:49 -0700
Re: Android full backup. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 00:35 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-16 20:53 +1000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-16 08:28 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:26 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-16 23:10 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 14:41 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-16 17:54 -0500
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 18:52 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-16 17:24 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 18:52 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 01:15 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 23:45 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 08:26 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 11:08 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 09:01 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 21:43 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:25 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-14 21:56 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 00:26 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 18:10 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-14 21:22 -0500
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 16:11 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 09:31 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 17:54 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:09 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 11:26 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 21:36 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-08 13:06 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-08 09:42 -0700
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-08 22:50 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-08 22:57 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-08 22:55 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 01:19 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-09 12:42 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-12 00:18 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-12 22:51 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:39 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-09 16:24 +1200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 05:35 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-04-09 13:55 -0400
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 21:55 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:31 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 20:58 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-11 09:39 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 09:45 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:29 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-09 15:35 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 21:21 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-11 09:40 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-11 12:00 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-11 15:36 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-11 17:32 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 18:51 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 03:32 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-14 05:07 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 18:36 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-12 01:01 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-06 13:18 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-07 09:45 +1200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-09 21:28 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 17:39 -0500
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 08:02 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-10 13:06 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 19:10 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-10 21:35 +0200
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 23:15 +0000
Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-05 22:57 +0000
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-03-21 05:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC |
| Message-ID | <vriv1f$on5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
This tutorial below shows how you can do tricks with a PC to manage the
apps on Android, even system apps, on non-rooted Android over adb.
This tutorial is just one of thousands of examples where it's actually
easier to manage Android from a PC than from the Android device itself.
But what else this tutorial shows, is that no other operating system is
anything like Android in the way that this tutorial shows it works.
I'll add the Linux/Mac folks as the test below will work the same,
only the syntax will be easier (e.g., "grep" instead of "findstr").
=============================================================================
*How to delete Google Discover from both your Android work & user profiles*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=57864&group=comp.mobile.android#57864>
Basics:
a. My Samsung Galaxy A32-5G baseband sub-version (H) is not rootable.
b. I have no accounts on the phone (not Google, not Samsung, none).
c. Long ago I wiped out all the bloatware using adb from Windows.
d. I'm on Windows (but the adb commands work the same on any PC).
It's important to note that 'Google Discover' is inside this package.
<com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox>
Looking it up... apparently "Discover" is a personalized feed of content
provided by Google based on your past Google activity, including your
searches, browsing history, and app usage. Yikes! I wouldn't want that.
<https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS10001618/#:~:text=Google%20Discover%20is%20just%20a,your%20search%20and%20browsing%20history.>
I have that package on my Android 13 Galaxy so why don't I see "Discover"?
C:\> adb shell pm list packages com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
(this lists it)
Luckily for me, it's been long ago "disabled" by me (probably en masse):
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -d com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
(this lists it)
I looked to see if it was "stopped" also (in addition to disabled).
C:\> adb shell "dumpsys package com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox | grep stopped="
The output indicated that the package wasn't installed for "user 0" but it
was installed (& working) for "user 11", so I needed to figure who is who.
C:\> adb shell am get-current-user
This reported that I'm user 0 when running adb
I have a work profile (set up when testing "Island").
Clearly the work profile is this mysterious "user 11".
So for the work profile, the Discover functionality exists, but not for the
main profile of mine (since I don't have any "accounts" set up on my phone).
The first thing I have to do is figure out how many "users" exist.
C:\> adb shell pm list users
Users:
UserInfo{0:Owner:c13} running
UserInfo{11: Island :10b0}
OK. That makes sense that user 0 is me, and user 11 is my work profile.
List if the package is installed for each of those userids, 0 & 11.
C:\> adb shell pm list packages --user 0 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
(the package does NOT show up, which means it's not installe)
C:\> adb shell pm list packages --user 11 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
(the package does show up, which means it is installed)
To remove it for user 11.
C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 11 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
Success
To check that it's gone for user 11.
C:\> adb shell pm list packages --user 11 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
(the package does NOT show up, which means it's not installed)
As a test, I tried re-installing it (from the system partition).
C:\> adb shell cmd package install-existing com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
Package com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox installed for user: 0
Notice it worked to re-install the app for user 0 but not for user 11!
To install it back for user 11 is not simple, it turns out.
First, check that it's not there:
C:\> adb shell pm list packages --user 11 | findstr googlequicksearchbox
(nothing was reported)
The re-install for user 11 fails as the system package isn't debuggable.
C:\> adb shell "run-as com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox cmd package install-existing com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox"
run-as: package not debuggable: com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
Isn't that interesting!
This system package isn't set to debuggable in its manifest.
That's a security measure.
This is a core basic feature of Android I'm hitting that no other OS does!
a. The system partition (always!) contains the base APK!
b. So that's why I could re-install it into the user 0 data partition.
c. But Android won't let me re-install it into the user 11 data partition.
Android's security model enforces strict isolation between user profiles.
This prevents apps in one profile from accessing or modifying data in
another profile.
But there's a trick!
Given you can uninstall and re-install system packages on any non-rooted
Android, but you can only do so for user 0 and not for the work profile
user 11, there's a trick to re-install this non-debuggable system package
for the work profile user 11 which takes advantage of how Android works.
For most (all?) system packages, Android never actually deleted them!
C:\> adb shell pm path com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
package:/product/priv-app/Velvet/Velvet.apk
Huh? Velvet? It turns out "Velvet" is a Google internal codename.
Now copy that Velvet system APK to the computer:
C:\> adb pull /product/priv-app/Velvet/Velvet.apk .\velvet.apk
/product/priv-app/Velvet/Vel... (276644880 bytes in 8.645s)
Note that I can grab things in the private system area!
(It's read only, but wait, I can install it once I have it!)
Now install that APK from the system partition to the work profile.
C:\> adb install --user 11 .\velvet.apk
Performing Streamed Install
Success
Now check if it's really installed for the work profile user 11.
C:\> adb shell pm list packages --user 11 | findstr googlequicksearchbox
(it's there!)
In summary, this shows empirically how Android handles system packages.
1. Any non-root user can still remove (most) system packages
2. But, they are not deleted. They're just removed for the user
3. They stay in the system partition (since they're system packages)
So...
A. You can easily re-install these deleted system packages for the user
B. But, you have to extract them first, to re-install for the work profile
Who knew?
Not me.
Now I do!
Of course, I removed it since I don't ever want to see Google Discover!
C:> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
Success
C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 11 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
Success
Double checking, they're gone.
C:\> adb shell pm list packages --user 0 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
(nothing is reported)
C:\> adb shell pm list packages --user 11 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
(nothing is reported)
In summary, this shows how Android works, where no other OS that I know of
works this way.
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| From | gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:15 +0000 |
| Subject | A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vrsb08$l3do$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #81152 |
In article <vriv1f$on5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: ... >In summary, this shows how Android works, where no other OS that I know of >works this way. Are you saying that is a Good Thing or a Bad Thing? -- Donald Drumpf claims to be "the least racist person you'll ever meet". This would be true if the only other person you've ever met was David Duke.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 21:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vrshll$1klb$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #81179 |
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 19:15:20 -0000 (UTC), Kenny McCormack wrote : >>In summary, this shows how Android works, where no other OS that I know of >>works this way. > > Are you saying that is a Good Thing or a Bad Thing? Android has advantages that no other common consumer operating system has. So it's good. For example, unlike every other common consumer operating system, Android *ALWAYS* automagically saves the original APK which was used to install the app, no matter who or what entity had originally installed that app. a. If Samsung installed that app, then Samsung's APK is always saved; b. If T-Mobile installed that app, then T-Mobile's APK is always saved; c. If the user installed that app, the user's APK is always saved. That fact that the original APK is *ALWAYS* on the system can be useful. To my knowledge, that's just one of the many things that Android does which is unique to the Android operating system. No other OS does that, AFAIK. There's more that Android does which is unique, but saving every single APK on the system, no matter who installed it, is unique (AFAIK) to Android. Is it not?
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 22:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vrsnsa$1toah$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81180 |
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:09:10 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote: > To my knowledge, that's just one of the many things that Android does > which is unique to the Android operating system. No other OS does that, > AFAIK. On Debian derivatives, while the original .deb package file is not saved per se, it is possible to recreate it from the installed items with the dpkg-repack command.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 08:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vrtpog$2iff$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #81181 |
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 22:55:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote : >> To my knowledge, that's just one of the many things that Android does >> which is unique to the Android operating system. No other OS does that, >> AFAIK. > > On Debian derivatives, while the original .deb package file is not saved > per se, it is possible to recreate it from the installed items with the > dpkg-repack command. Well then, that's kind of the same thing. Thanks for adding that value. If you can re-create/extract a working installer, I'll count that as a win. One might ask why it is a great idea to always have the original installer. A *huge* advantage of the APK always being there is it helps to populate another phone (or a billion other phones), since you can COPY that APK. If it's a free app (i.e., not restricted) and if the obligatory hardware versions and API levels are compatible, it's easy to populate any other phone with the same apps that you have on one phone. How cool is that? Remember, there's no special software required. No backup necessary. The APK is always waiting for you. It's there if you ever need it.
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| From | Tango Romeo <TangoRomero@snope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 20:09 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vrvnld$3puup$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #81183 |
Marion appears to have wrote: > A *huge* advantage of the APK always being there is it helps to populate > another phone (or a billion other phones), since you can COPY that APK. Why aren't the installer programs restricted only to the user's ID account?
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 19:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vs6uhs$14ac$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #81186 |
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:09:49 -0600, Tango Romeo wrote : >> A *huge* advantage of the APK always being there is it helps to populate >> another phone (or a billion other phones), since you can COPY that APK. > > Why aren't the installer programs restricted only to the user's ID account? That's a deceitful lock on installers that only Apple adds. Nobody else but Apple prevents installer re-use on HW-compatible devices. Just Apple. It's just one of the many ways Apple fucks their own customers.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 15:13 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vs76u3$3mi2a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81198 |
On 2025-03-28 12:50, Marion wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:09:49 -0600, Tango Romeo wrote : > > >>> A *huge* advantage of the APK always being there is it helps to populate >>> another phone (or a billion other phones), since you can COPY that APK. >> >> Why aren't the installer programs restricted only to the user's ID >> account? > > That's a deceitful lock on installers that only Apple adds. > Nobody else but Apple prevents installer re-use on HW-compatible devices. > > Just Apple. It's just one of the many ways Apple fucks their own customers. How does it "fuck" them, exactly?
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 18:04 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vs79ur$3p7oc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81202 |
Alan wrote: > On 2025-03-28 12:50, Marion wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:09:49 -0600, Tango Romeo wrote : >> >> >>>> A *huge* advantage of the APK always being there is it helps to >>>> populate >>>> another phone (or a billion other phones), since you can COPY that APK. >>> >>> Why aren't the installer programs restricted only to the user's ID >>> account? >> >> That's a deceitful lock on installers that only Apple adds. >> Nobody else but Apple prevents installer re-use on HW-compatible devices. >> >> Just Apple. It's just one of the many ways Apple fucks their own >> customers. > > How does it "fuck" them, exactly? Ahahahahahahaha.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 17:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vs7f5c$3uc2a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81203 |
On 2025-03-28 16:04, Hank Rogers wrote: > Alan wrote: >> On 2025-03-28 12:50, Marion wrote: >>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:09:49 -0600, Tango Romeo wrote : >>> >>> >>>>> A *huge* advantage of the APK always being there is it helps to >>>>> populate >>>>> another phone (or a billion other phones), since you can COPY that >>>>> APK. >>>> >>>> Why aren't the installer programs restricted only to the user's ID >>>> account? >>> >>> That's a deceitful lock on installers that only Apple adds. >>> Nobody else but Apple prevents installer re-use on HW-compatible >>> devices. >>> >>> Just Apple. It's just one of the many ways Apple fucks their own >>> customers. >> >> How does it "fuck" them, exactly? > > Ahahahahahahaha. > > So you can't answer. I understand.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 06:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vs84bb$2fbe$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #81203 |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 18:04:58 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote : >>> Nobody else but Apple prevents installer re-use on HW-compatible devices. >>> >>> Just Apple. It's just one of the many ways Apple fucks their own >>> customers. >> >> How does it "fuck" them, exactly? > > Ahahahahahahaha. In case those lurking aren't aware, Alan Baker is an Apple troll who denies anything about Apple that he hates which, in this case, is that only Apple fucks every single customer up the ass EVERY time they install an IPA. On non-toy operating systems (e.g., Windows, Android, Linux, etc.), if you install a free app on one machine, you can install that same app on another (as long as we're assuming compatible hardware & underlying API versions). But on the toy operating system from Apple, every single IPA has your unique Apple ID (or family plan ID) locked into the app - even free apps. Since Apple directly ties *EVERY SINGLE APP TO YOU!* that you've added to your iOS device (via your mandatory AppleID required to install that app), Apple is well known to track that app usage directly to your own actions! Apple *lies* when Apple says there is more privacy on iOS when nobody can track all your app usage on any other operating system but Apple's iOS. While Apple's lies do harm (because people pay for a privacy they can't get), it's way worse than that when you try to re-use those IPAs on another device, when that other device MUST be one registered to your own Apple ID. No other operating system vendor but Apple fucks their customer like that. On Android, every free APK can be re-used on *any* compatible device. Same with Windows. Same with Linux. Only Apple fucks their customer with every single app that is installed. a. Apple's lies about privacy (there's less privacy on iOS than Android) b. Apple's app tracking (look it up!) c. Apple's lock against reuse (of free apps!)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 13:33 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <7u5lblxjel.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81208 |
On 2025-03-29 07:35, Marion wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 18:04:58 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote : ... > No other operating system vendor but Apple fucks their customer like that. > > On Android, every free APK can be re-used on *any* compatible device. > Same with Windows. Same with Linux. > > Only Apple fucks their customer with every single app that is installed. > a. Apple's lies about privacy (there's less privacy on iOS than Android) > b. Apple's app tracking (look it up!) > c. Apple's lock against reuse (of free apps!) But Apple is a commercial system. They do not provide free software. On all systems, you can install commercial software only on the machines the license entitles you. If it is one machine, then it is a single, one, machine. It is perfectly fair for Apple to provide commercial software. Many companies do the same for other operating systems. Nobody is obligated to provide their software as free. It is their choice, and no, you can not blame or insult them for that. Just don't buy it. That's your choice as customer. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 17:41 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vs9bce$lhf$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #81213 |
On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 13:33:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote : > But Apple is a commercial system. Hi Carlos, Both Android & iOS are unique in a way that no other operating system is: Android is unique in that every app installed has its installer autosaved. Which is a good thing. iOS is unique in that every app installed is locked to a single Apple ID. Which is a bad thing. Apple *lied* when they claim iOS is more private than Android when, in fact, Apple tracks your use of every app by a unique ID inserted by Apple. No other operating system would *dare* to track its users so invasively. Just Apple. > They do not provide free software. We're talking about free app installers that the user downloads & installs. We're talking about what's *different* about Android from other operating systems, such as that installer APK is always sitting on the file system. That's unique to Android. And that's a good thing. Because that free installer can be re-used at will. Note that on every operating system other than iOS, you can re-use a free installer on any compatible machine - so what's UNIQUE to Android is the fact that the free installer is ALWAYS auto-saved to the device itself. > On all systems, you can install > commercial software only on the machines the license entitles you. Re-use of commercial apps is an (almost) completely different topic. While payware app installers are also auto-saved on Android, that only allows the user who bought the app to re-use it within the terms of the purchase. So, of course payware apps are locked to "something" to prevent re-use. We're only talking here about free apps, mostly that the user installed (although for Android, the re-use extends also to installed system apps). > If it is one machine, then it is a single, one, machine. We're talking about what's unique to Android for free apps, which is: a. Every app installer (free or otherwise) is auto-saved on Android b. No other operating system auto-saves that installer, by design On my Android, as you know, I have about 900 free apps installed. There is the original installer saved on Android for every single one. That's how Android works. Android never deletes the original APK for installed apps. And that is a good thing. Because it allows re-use. Specifically for free apps that have a "last known good version" APK. So even if the specific app or specific version is no longer in the repositories, the user can use that app for himself & for billions of others for as long as the hardware it's being re-used on is compatible. That's a good thing. > It is perfectly fair for Apple to provide commercial software. Many > companies do the same for other operating systems. Nobody is obligated > to provide their software as free. It is their choice, and no, you can > not blame or insult them for that. Just don't buy it. That's your choice > as customer. Almost everything about iOS is bad for the user in terms of app re-use. On every other operating system other than iOS, if the user downloads and installs a free application, that app installer, if saved, still works on *billions* of other similar devices (let's always assume they're compatible in terms of hardware & API levels for the purpose of this discussion). Only on iOS does a free installer only work for one user & one user only. That's unique to iOS. And that's a bad thing. And only on iOS, does the mothership insert a unique tracking ID into every app, and then Apple uses that tracking ID to invade your privacy every day. The extent of that privacy invasion inserted on every app is unique to iOS. And that's a bad thing. -- We could get into details of family sharing but that's a minor complexity.
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 16:00 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vs9n14$29b0t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81215 |
Marion wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 13:33:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote : > > >> But Apple is a commercial system. > > Hi Carlos, > > Both Android & iOS are unique in a way that no other operating system is: > > Android is unique in that every app installed has its installer autosaved. > Which is a good thing. > iOS is unique in that every app installed is locked to a single Apple ID. > Which is a bad thing. > > Apple *lied* when they claim iOS is more private than Android when, in > fact, Apple tracks your use of every app by a unique ID inserted by Apple. > > No other operating system would *dare* to track its users so invasively. > Just Apple. > >> They do not provide free software. > > We're talking about free app installers that the user downloads & installs. > > We're talking about what's *different* about Android from other operating > systems, such as that installer APK is always sitting on the file system. > > That's unique to Android. > And that's a good thing. > > Because that free installer can be re-used at will. > > Note that on every operating system other than iOS, you can re-use a free > installer on any compatible machine - so what's UNIQUE to Android is the > fact that the free installer is ALWAYS auto-saved to the device itself. > >> On all systems, you can install commercial software only on the >> machines the license entitles you. > > Re-use of commercial apps is an (almost) completely different topic. > > While payware app installers are also auto-saved on Android, that only > allows the user who bought the app to re-use it within the terms of the > purchase. > > So, of course payware apps are locked to "something" to prevent re-use. > > We're only talking here about free apps, mostly that the user installed > (although for Android, the re-use extends also to installed system apps). > >> If it is one machine, then it is a single, one, machine. > > We're talking about what's unique to Android for free apps, which is: > a. Every app installer (free or otherwise) is auto-saved on Android > b. No other operating system auto-saves that installer, by design > > On my Android, as you know, I have about 900 free apps installed. > There is the original installer saved on Android for every single one. > > That's how Android works. Android never deletes the original APK for > installed apps. > And that is a good thing. > > Because it allows re-use. > Specifically for free apps that have a "last known good version" APK. > > So even if the specific app or specific version is no longer in the > repositories, the user can use that app for himself & for billions of > others for as long as the hardware it's being re-used on is compatible. > > That's a good thing. > >> It is perfectly fair for Apple to provide commercial software. Many >> companies do the same for other operating systems. Nobody is obligated >> to provide their software as free. It is their choice, and no, you can >> not blame or insult them for that. Just don't buy it. That's your >> choice as customer. > > Almost everything about iOS is bad for the user in terms of app re-use. > > On every other operating system other than iOS, if the user downloads and > installs a free application, that app installer, if saved, still works on > *billions* of other similar devices (let's always assume they're compatible > in terms of hardware & API levels for the purpose of this discussion). > > Only on iOS does a free installer only work for one user & one user only. > > That's unique to iOS. > And that's a bad thing. > > And only on iOS, does the mothership insert a unique tracking ID into every > app, and then Apple uses that tracking ID to invade your privacy every day. > > The extent of that privacy invasion inserted on every app is unique to iOS. > And that's a bad thing. Nah, apple and android both screw their customers, just in different ways. But neither has been as successful as Trump.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 06:30 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vsaoed$14o2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #81216 |
On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 16:00:13 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote : >> The extent of that privacy invasion inserted on every app is unique to iOS. >> And that's a bad thing. > > Nah, apple and android both screw their customers, just in different > ways. But neither has been as successful as Trump. I don't disagree that both Apple & Google (and Microsoft too) screw their customers trying to make a buck off of them, but what's unique isn't that. What's unique to Android that no other operating system does, is Android saves every installer automatically. The installer is always there. And that's good. What's unique to iOS that no other operating system does is Apple deceitfully inserts a unique tracking ID into every app you install. And that's bad.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-03-30 17:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vscm5u$2nsik$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81218 |
On 2025-03-29 23:30, Marion wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 16:00:13 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote : > > >>> The extent of that privacy invasion inserted on every app is unique >>> to iOS. >>> And that's a bad thing. >> >> Nah, apple and android both screw their customers, just in different >> ways. But neither has been as successful as Trump. > > I don't disagree that both Apple & Google (and Microsoft too) screw their > customers trying to make a buck off of them, but what's unique isn't that. > > What's unique to Android that no other operating system does, is Android > saves every installer automatically. The installer is always there. > > And that's good. Unless you need the space...
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| From | Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 09:16 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vsdfgi$1erf6$1@matrix.hispagatos.org> |
| In reply to | #81221 |
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 17:04:13 -0700, Alan wrote: >> What's unique to Android that no other operating system does, is Android >> saves every installer automatically. The installer is always there. >> >> And that's good. > > Unless you need the space... With many Android phones you can double the storage space in an instant. Here's a 128GB high quality SanDisk 200MB/s sdcard for twenty bucks. https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-128GB-Extreme-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B09X7FXHVJ/ If that is too small, here's a fast 512GB card for thirty-five bucks. https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-microSDXC-Nintendo-Switch-MB-ME512SA-AM/dp/B0CWPPMD8W/ How much does it cost to double storage space on a typical iPhone?
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 11:04 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <m4v45jFhthU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81222 |
Bill Powell, 2025-03-31 09:16: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 17:04:13 -0700, Alan wrote: > >>> What's unique to Android that no other operating system does, is Android >>> saves every installer automatically. The installer is always there. >>> >>> And that's good. >> >> Unless you need the space... > > With many Android phones you can double the storage space in an instant. Only, if you can use MicroSD cards *and* if you configure the card to be used as "internal memory". Otherwise they only get added as external storage and can *not* be used to install apps on them. And since MicroSD cards tend to work much less reliable than internal memory, you may also experience problems when using them this way. And if the card does not work any longer, this usally means you have to setup at least all affected apps again and sometimes your whole device starting with a fresh installation, because you can not just replace the card *after* you have configured it as "internal memory". A better approach is to get a device with enough internal memory for all your apps and their data (even mainstream devices provide at least 128 GB or more nowadays) and use an MicroSD card for additional data like pictures, music etc. only. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 11:59 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <vsee4p$lv1j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81224 |
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:04:51 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote: >>>> What's unique to Android that no other operating system does, is Android >>>> saves every installer automatically. The installer is always there. >>>> >>>> And that's good. >>> >>> Unless you need the space... >> >> With many Android phones you can double the storage space in an instant. > > Only, if you can use MicroSD cards *and* if you configure the card to be > used as "internal memory". That's just wrong. https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/using-an-sd-card/ > Otherwise they only get added as external storage and can *not* be > used to install apps on them. There are two use models for sdcards. Integrated Storage (also known as Internal Expansion) & Removable Storage (also known as Portable Storage). https://support.google.com/android/answer/12153449?hl=en > And since MicroSD cards tend to work much less reliable than internal > memory, you may also experience problems when using them this way. While anything can fail, your argument against removable storage is first wrong, and now faulty. https://www.wikihow.com/Use-an-SD-Card-on-Android Your argument is wickedly against trains because truck tires can go flat? > And > if the card does not work any longer, this usally means you have to > setup at least all affected apps again and sometimes your whole device > starting with a fresh installation, because you can not just replace the > card *after* you have configured it as "internal memory". Your argument is like you saying we have to use a freight train instead of a truck to move goods and then you complain that trucks get flat tires. The reason your first argument is dead wrong is that you argue against trucks because freight trains are constrained to railroad tracks. https://www.zdnet.com/article/best-microsd-card/ The reason your second argument is faulty is that there's redundancy in truck tires & failures are few & far between that they're still useful. > A better approach is to get a device with enough internal memory for all > your apps and their data (even mainstream devices provide at least 128 > GB or more nowadays) and use an MicroSD card for additional data like > pictures, music etc. only. Your entire argument is first dead wrong & second overly pessimistic. You want to get a good memory card where it has met standards & reviews. https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Cards-Top-Brands/s?keywords=Memory+Cards You argue that you need to buy a warehouse because your argument is you can only transport goods using freight trains (which are severely constrained to railroad tracks) but then you state the reason you must buy an entire warehouse is because truck tires don't last forever, so you can't even use trucks. You must buy a huge warehouse to store your stuff. Put back in direct terms, almost nobody uses sdcards for Internal Expansion. They use sdcards for Portable Storage. You need to look up the difference before you make wrong & false arguments. https://www.kentfaith.ca/blog/article_how-to-use-a-sd-card-on-android_3608
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 19:42 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC) |
| Message-ID | <m502h3F5hdmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81225 |
Isaac Montara, 2025-03-31 17:59: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:04:51 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote: > >>>>> What's unique to Android that no other operating system does, is Android >>>>> saves every installer automatically. The installer is always there. >>>>> >>>>> And that's good. >>>> >>>> Unless you need the space... >>> >>> With many Android phones you can double the storage space in an instant. >> >> Only, if you can use MicroSD cards *and* if you configure the card to be >> used as "internal memory". > > That's just wrong. > https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/using-an-sd-card/ No - you contradict yourself below... >> Otherwise they only get added as external storage and can *not* be >> used to install apps on them. > > There are two use models for sdcards. Integrated Storage (also known as > Internal Expansion) & Removable Storage (also known as Portable Storage). > https://support.google.com/android/answer/12153449?hl=en Exactly - this is what I talked about. Why do you say, I am wrong, when you confirm exactly what I explained? >> And since MicroSD cards tend to work much less reliable than internal >> memory, you may also experience problems when using them this way. > > While anything can fail, your argument against removable storage is first > wrong, and now faulty. https://www.wikihow.com/Use-an-SD-Card-on-Android What's your problem? > Your argument is wickedly against trains because truck tires can go flat? What? [...] > Your entire argument is first dead wrong & second overly pessimistic. No, it is based on nearly 20 years of experience with that. Do you want all my dead microSD cards? I can give you many examples of cards which died over the years. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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