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  Re: What's the best linux distro? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-23 23:04 +0000
    Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-24 03:13 +0200
      Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-24 14:19 +0100
        Re: What's the best linux distro? Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> - 2021-08-25 20:47 -0700
          Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 09:46 +0100
            Re: What's the best linux distro? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-08-26 12:11 +0000
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2021-08-26 13:21 +0000
                Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 16:53 +0100
              Re: What's the best linux distro? jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2021-08-26 07:39 -0700
              Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 16:51 +0100
    Re: What's the best linux distro? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-24 12:53 +0000
      Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 11:56 +0200
        Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 12:10 +0100
          Re: What's the best linux distro? jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2021-08-25 17:11 -0700
            Re: What's the best linux distro? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2021-08-26 04:13 +0000
              X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?) "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2021-08-26 10:31 +0200
                Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-26 11:33 +0200
                  Re: X-post and follow-Up Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 06:52 -0400
                    Re: X-post and follow-Up "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:02 +0200
                Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?) jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2021-08-26 07:28 -0700
                  Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?) "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2021-08-26 17:22 +0200
                  Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?) "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-08-26 17:45 +0200
        Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 13:10 +0100
          Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 14:36 +0200
            Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 08:53 -0400
              Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 15:13 +0200
              Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 14:31 +0100
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:14 -0400
                Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 20:13 +0200
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 20:57 +0000
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-27 01:38 +0200
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-27 02:04 +0100
                      Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-27 09:29 +0200
                      Re: What's the best linux distro? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-08-27 17:01 +0200
                        Re: What's the best linux distro? Snit Michael Glasser <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-27 14:25 -0700
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:26 -0400
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:27 +0200
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 20:53 +0000
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-27 02:01 +0100
              Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-27 01:54 +0200
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-28 12:51 +0000
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 11:40 -0400
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-28 17:39 +0000
                      Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 14:25 -0400
                        Re: What's the best linux distro? Smit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 15:17 -0700
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-28 23:08 +0200
                      Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-29 00:10 +0200
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:11 -0400
                Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:29 +0200
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-29 16:09 +0200
              Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:43 +0200
            Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 14:27 +0100
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Robert Latest <boblatest@yahoo.com> - 2021-08-25 15:38 +0000
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:07 -0400
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:10 -0400
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 21:03 +0000
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-08-27 17:04 +0200
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? Stefen Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 02:10 -0700
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? Theo <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 02:26 -0700
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-28 13:12 +0000
                      Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 11:39 -0400
                        Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 11:05 +0100
                          Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 07:06 -0400
                            Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 12:50 +0100
                              Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 08:07 -0400
                                Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 13:23 +0100
                                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 11:38 -0400
                                    Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 22:45 +0100
                                      Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-30 01:10 +0200
                                        Re: What's the best linux distro? Steven Carroll - fretwizzen <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 20:21 -0700
                                      Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 20:18 -0400
                                        Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-30 08:23 +0100
                                          Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-30 08:02 -0400
                                            Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-30 14:26 +0100
                                              Re: What's the best linux distro? Dustin who does stuff with miceless computers <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-30 15:17 -0700
                                              Re: What's the best linux distro? HHI <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-30 22:31 -0700
                                            Re: What's the best linux distro? Dustic Cook the Fucntionally Illiterate Fraud <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-30 08:23 -0700
                                            Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-31 10:13 +0100
                                              Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-31 10:38 +0100
                                                Re: What's the best linux distro? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-08-31 20:39 +0000
                                                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Diesel <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-31 17:43 -0700
                                                Re: What's the best linux distro? Ann Glaser <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-01 02:46 -0700
                                                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-01 10:45 -0700
                                                    Re: What's the best linux distro? Dusty Crook <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-01 21:59 -0700
                                                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Gremlin the Functionally Illiterate Fraud <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-02 06:32 -0700
                                Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-29 12:59 +0000
                                  Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 15:43 +0200
                                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 11:41 -0400
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 09:09 +0100
                Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 09:49 +0100
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-26 11:31 +0200
            Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 16:47 +0100
              Re: What's the best linux distro? jjb <invalid@invalid.nl> - 2021-08-25 18:17 +0200
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:23 -0400
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 18:14 +0100
              Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 20:19 +0200
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:32 -0400
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:36 +0200
                    Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 15:16 +0100
        Re: What's the best linux distro? Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> - 2021-08-25 21:02 -0700
          Re: What's the best linux distro? Robert Latest <boblatest@yahoo.com> - 2021-08-26 05:35 +0000
            Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-26 11:28 +0200
          Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-26 18:10 +0200
            Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-26 13:12 -0400
              Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-26 19:41 +0200
                Re: What's the best linux distro? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2021-08-27 11:02 +0200
            Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:42 -0400
              Re: What's the best linux distro? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2021-08-29 15:26 +0200
                Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:57 +0100
                  Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 10:47 -0400
          Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 21:12 +0000
        Re: What's the best linux distro? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-08-31 21:36 +0000
    Re: What's the best linux distro? bad sector <forgetski@postit_INVALID_.gov> - 2021-08-25 13:23 -0400

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#70703 — Re: What's the best linux distro?

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:15:30 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> 
> The source is available for all of them.  Total choice exists for all
> of them.
>

Totally wrong.

If one desires to install an alternative init system on Fedora
it will be impossible.  The distro is locked into systemd
as are many others.  Choice does not exist.

Unless a distro specifically allows allows alternative options
for an init system and other systems, as do Gentoo and LFS,
then it is NOT a free distro in the spirit of FOSS.

Again: most distros are not free and violate FOSS principles.

Why is this so?

Because distro maintainers are wannabe gods and do not
want to work for the people but want to work only to glorify
their self-image.

Anyone can create a distro.  But creating a distro that maintains
freedom and allows choice is a great labor that few desire to
undertake.

The case is closed.


-- 

Systemd free.  D.E. free.

Always and forever.

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#70704

On 24/08/2021 01.04, F Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:15:30 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
>>
>> The source is available for all of them.  Total choice exists for all
>> of them.
>>
> 
> Totally wrong.
> 
> If one desires to install an alternative init system on Fedora
> it will be impossible.  The distro is locked into systemd
> as are many others.  Choice does not exist.
> 
> Unless a distro specifically allows allows alternative options
> for an init system and other systems, as do Gentoo and LFS,
> then it is NOT a free distro in the spirit of FOSS.
> 
> Again: most distros are not free and violate FOSS principles.

Sue them.

> 
> Why is this so?
> 
> Because distro maintainers are wannabe gods and do not
> want to work for the people but want to work only to glorify
> their self-image.
> 
> Anyone can create a distro.  But creating a distro that maintains
> freedom and allows choice is a great labor that few desire to
> undertake.

Then why don't you create your's, and see how many want it?

> 
> The case is closed.
> 
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70706

On 24/08/2021 02:13, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 24/08/2021 01.04, F Russell wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:15:30 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The source is available for all of them.  Total choice exists for all
>>> of them.
>>>
>>
>> Totally wrong.
>>
>> If one desires to install an alternative init system on Fedora
>> it will be impossible.  The distro is locked into systemd
>> as are many others.  Choice does not exist.
>>
>> Unless a distro specifically allows allows alternative options
>> for an init system and other systems, as do Gentoo and LFS,
>> then it is NOT a free distro in the spirit of FOSS.
>>
>> Again: most distros are not free and violate FOSS principles.
> 
> Sue them.
> 
>>
>> Why is this so?
>>
>> Because distro maintainers are wannabe gods and do not
>> want to work for the people but want to work only to glorify
>> their self-image.
>>
>> Anyone can create a distro.  But creating a distro that maintains
>> freedom and allows choice is a great labor that few desire to
>> undertake.
> 
> Then why don't you create your's, and see how many want it?
> 
Exactly.

Linux runs my desktop and my servers. Its a bit like windows, only 
better, more stable, and cost nothing more than the effort of installing 
it .

I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it 
works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can 
make it, and  well supported,  up to and including porting third party 
apps to it.

I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development 
sometime in the 1990s

>>
>> The case is closed.
>>
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#70727

On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it
> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can
> make it, and  well supported,  up to and including porting third party
> apps to it.
>
> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development
> sometime in the 1990s

> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or 
the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan 
loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be 
surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, 
you've been warned. LOL
-- 
James, Son of John

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#70733

On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it
>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can
>> make it, and  well supported,  up to and including porting third party
>> apps to it.
>>
>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development
>> sometime in the 1990s
> 
>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
> 
> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or 
> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan 
> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be 
> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, 
> you've been warned. LOL

Well I must say that is very antisocial of you.
Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze?

-- 
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly 
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential 
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations 
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with 
what it actually is.

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#70739

In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it
>>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can
>>> make it, and  well supported,  up to and including porting third party
>>> apps to it.
>>>
>>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development
>>> sometime in the 1990s
>> 
>>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
>> 
>> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or 
>> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan 
>> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be 
>> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, 
>> you've been warned. LOL
> 
> Well I must say that is very antisocial of you.
> Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze?

JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you 
must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank).

Far too many recently have fallen into a trap of forgetting (or 
possibly never understanding in the first place) that different people 
can hold different opinions and it is not the end of the world.  I.e., 
some have forgotten to "agree to disagree".

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#70741

On 2021-08-26, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it
>>>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can
>>>> make it, and  well supported,  up to and including porting third party
>>>> apps to it.
>>>>
>>>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development
>>>> sometime in the 1990s
>>> 
>>>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
>>> 
>>> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or 
>>> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan 
>>> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be 
>>> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, 
>>> you've been warned. LOL
>> 
>> Well I must say that is very antisocial of you.
>> Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze?
>
> JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you 
> must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank).

It was a response in kind to the original post, and entirely justified.

Correct me ig I'm wrong, bufrom from your response it seems that you also
prefer superstition to science.

If you don't want your idocies mocked don't post them to usenet.

-- 
  Jasen.

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#70747

On 26/08/2021 14:21, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2021-08-26, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it
>>>>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can
>>>>> make it, and  well supported,  up to and including porting third party
>>>>> apps to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development
>>>>> sometime in the 1990s
>>>>
>>>>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or
>>>> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan
>>>> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be
>>>> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help,
>>>> you've been warned. LOL
>>>
>>> Well I must say that is very antisocial of you.
>>> Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze?
>>
>> JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you
>> must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank).
> 
> It was a response in kind to the original post, and entirely justified.
> 
> Correct me ig I'm wrong, bufrom from your response it seems that you also
> prefer superstition to science.

No, I don't think he is Believer in Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global 
Warming..

> 
> If you don't want your idocies mocked don't post them to usenet.
> 
Indeed.



-- 
To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.

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#70743

On 8/26/21 5:11 AM, Rich wrote:

> some have forgotten to "agree to disagree"

that is and always has been a cop out - it basically means "screw you, 
I'm not interested nor am I listening anymore".  Nothing more than 
politician's bull crappy.

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#70746

On 26/08/2021 13:11, Rich wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it
>>>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can
>>>> make it, and  well supported,  up to and including porting third party
>>>> apps to it.
>>>>
>>>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development
>>>> sometime in the 1990s
>>>
>>>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
>>>
>>> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or
>>> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan
>>> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be
>>> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help,
>>> you've been warned. LOL
>>
>> Well I must say that is very antisocial of you.
>> Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze?
> 
> JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you
> must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank).
> 
> Far too many recently have fallen into a trap of forgetting (or
> possibly never understanding in the first place) that different people
> can hold different opinions and it is not the end of the world.  I.e.,
> some have forgotten to "agree to disagree".
> 
Well in the end some people - due mainly to insecurity one supposes - 
move from purveyors of perspectives to Holders of the One True View.

Philosophy teaches one true fact, that there are no 'true' facts. There 
are only inductive propositions, whose truth content is indecidable.

The problem with socialism per se, is that it is comprised of such 
people. The tenets of Marxism and so called socialism are pronounced as 
truth, not as informative perspectives.

It's as bad as science, which at least has the excuse that its 
propositions are demonstrably not-false....yet anyway.


-- 
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead 
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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#70705

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 08:10:49 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> 
> Your posting is utter bullshit.
>

Where is your proof or example to the contrary?  Without
it your statement is purely empty.

But my claims remain unassailable -- except to shallow and
deluded idiots like you.

>
> *You* are the dogmatic Troll here.
> 

"Troll" is one of the three words in your entire pathetic
vocabulary which in turn stems from your totally reflexive
intelligence. 

You are the the blind that leads the lame.


-- 

Systemd free.  D.E. free.

Always and forever.

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#70707

On 25/08/2021 06.41, SixOverFive wrote:
> On 08/24/2021 08:53 AM, F Russell wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 08:10:49 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Your posting is utter bullshit.
>>>
>>
>> Where is your proof or example to the contrary?  Without...
> 
> 
> PEOPLE !!! What's going on here ???
> 
> There IS NO "best" Linux distro. What's "best" depends
> ENTIRELY on what YOU plan to DO with it.

Oh, you must be new in these parts :-D

F Russell is one of the local trolls, a fanatic. Linux has to be his way 
or it is evil. Systemd is evil. He likes a linux with basically no 
services, no init system, tailored solely for him. What the 
distributions do, a system that works as is for many people is evil. 
Linux for the masses is evil, it has to be for hackers only and must be 
difficult to use.

He is impossible.

Ah, and he hates personally the people that don't agree with him.

He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up 
to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I suppose.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70708

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
> suppose.

And you indulge him.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#70726

On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
>> suppose.
> 
> And you indulge him.
> 
cross post deleted

+1

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#70729

On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote:
> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
>>> suppose.
>> 
>> And you indulge him.
>> 
> cross post deleted
>
> +1

My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that cleans 
up a newsgroup faster than anything else.

-- 
These years, during which the accursed SECT OF MASONRY will take control of 
the civil government... These unfortunate men will think the Convent 
destroyed, but God lives, and I live, and we will raise up powerful 
defenders and set before these enemies, difficulties impossible to conquer, 
and the triumph will be ours..."  — Our Lady of Good Success

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#70732 — X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?)

On 26/08/2021 06.13, RonB wrote:
> On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote:
>> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
>>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
>>>> suppose.
>>>
>>> And you indulge him.
>>>
>> cross post deleted
>>
>> +1
> 
> My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that cleans
> up a newsgroup faster than anything else.
> 

Don't know which groups you subscribe for, but for me, most shit is 
multi posts and not cross posted, not sure it's possible with G2-web 
interface.

-- 

  //Aho

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#70737 — Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?)

On 26/08/2021 10.31, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 26/08/2021 06.13, RonB wrote:
>> On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote:
>>> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>>>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
>>>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
>>>>> suppose.
>>>>
>>>> And you indulge him.
>>>>
>>> cross post deleted
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>> My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that 
>> cleans
>> up a newsgroup faster than anything else.
>>
> 
> Don't know which groups you subscribe for, but for me, most shit is 
> multi posts and not cross posted, not sure it's possible with G2-web 
> interface.

That way you have half the posts of the thread in one group and half in 
the other, so that some people will not see yours.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70809 — Re: X-post and follow-Up

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

> On 26/08/2021 10.31, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> On 26/08/2021 06.13, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote:
>>>> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>>>>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
>>>>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
>>>>>> suppose.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you indulge him.
>>>>>
>>>> cross post deleted
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that
>>> cleans
>>> up a newsgroup faster than anything else.
>>>
>> Don't know which groups you subscribe for, but for me, most shit is 
>> multi posts and not cross posted, not sure it's possible with G2-web
>> interface.
>
> That way you have half the posts of the thread in one group and half
> in the other, so that some people will not see yours.

I tend to leave the groups alone when replying to a cross-posted
article, although I do remove things like the advocacy cesspools. 

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#70817 — Re: X-post and follow-Up

On 29/08/2021 12.52, Bud Frede wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On 26/08/2021 10.31, J.O. Aho wrote:
>>> On 26/08/2021 06.13, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>>>>>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
>>>>>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
>>>>>>> suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you indulge him.
>>>>>>
>>>>> cross post deleted
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that
>>>> cleans
>>>> up a newsgroup faster than anything else.
>>>>
>>> Don't know which groups you subscribe for, but for me, most shit is 
>>> multi posts and not cross posted, not sure it's possible with G2-web
>>> interface.
>>
>> That way you have half the posts of the thread in one group and half
>> in the other, so that some people will not see yours.
> 
> I tend to leave the groups alone when replying to a cross-posted
> article, although I do remove things like the advocacy cesspools. 

Certainly, me too. The two groups listed in this post are precisely just
that.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#70742 — Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?)

On 8/26/21 1:31 AM, J.O. Aho wrote:

> most shit is multi posts and not cross posted

?

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