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| Started by | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| First post | 2019-02-17 20:23 +0000 |
| Last post | 2019-02-19 13:22 -0800 |
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What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-17 20:23 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-17 12:46 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-17 21:44 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-17 14:29 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-17 23:15 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-18 10:49 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 02:21 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-18 12:13 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 15:17 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 09:30 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-18 23:33 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:14 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-19 00:33 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:41 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:22 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:00 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:06 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-18 18:39 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 08:41 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-18 20:32 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-18 21:38 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-18 23:30 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:18 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:18 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 15:17 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 09:31 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:28 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-18 16:55 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 10:18 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-18 21:24 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-18 23:47 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:26 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-19 00:35 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:40 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:21 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-19 21:33 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:21 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 15:55 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:15 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 00:36 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:56 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-19 03:24 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:07 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-19 01:39 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 01:51 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-19 03:25 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 02:36 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 16:00 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:25 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 18:28 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-19 19:05 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-19 11:52 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 21:13 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-19 21:33 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-19 13:43 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-19 22:00 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 22:20 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-19 22:55 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 22:10 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-19 14:24 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 23:04 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 17:20 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-19 15:23 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-19 23:25 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 13:23 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-20 09:15 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 18:41 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-20 22:59 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 22:11 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 15:39 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-19 23:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 13:42 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 12:57 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2019-02-20 14:51 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 21:49 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 12:51 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 10:17 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-02-19 10:32 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:43 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 16:48 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:54 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:50 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:52 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:25 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 00:27 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:49 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 08:58 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-18 05:31 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 15:17 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 09:13 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:43 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-18 16:50 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:31 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:10 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-18 12:24 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 22:52 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-18 17:02 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:31 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:08 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-18 18:01 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:56 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:56 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 15:17 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 15:38 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-18 09:59 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 16:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-18 16:32 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 16:38 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? shemp14@outlook.com - 2019-02-18 17:01 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-18 11:15 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2019-02-18 12:05 -0700
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-18 14:15 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-18 21:44 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2019-02-18 16:47 -0700
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 01:05 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:56 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-20 06:03 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-02-20 10:56 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-20 19:20 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-20 12:09 -0800
PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 15:30 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-21 09:50 -0600
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-21 07:52 -0800
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 16:52 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-21 09:12 -0800
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 19:34 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-02-22 13:31 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-21 17:32 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 19:23 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-21 18:20 +0000
PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-21 16:52 +0000
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Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 19:03 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-21 20:15 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 20:53 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 21:28 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 18:37 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-21 20:07 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-21 20:38 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-21 15:19 -0600
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-21 21:34 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-22 01:14 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-25 01:53 +0000
Re: PRIVACY Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-22 04:20 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-20 19:17 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-19 01:12 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-18 20:18 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:32 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? bje@ripco.com - 2019-02-19 11:37 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:19 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-18 20:44 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2019-02-18 13:41 -0700
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 01:10 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? bje@ripco.com - 2019-02-19 11:40 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:58 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:52 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-02-19 12:16 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 21:16 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-20 05:51 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2019-02-18 19:18 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 01:12 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2019-02-18 21:33 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-18 21:50 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-19 11:26 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 11:00 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-19 15:46 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-20 23:05 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-20 23:53 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-21 06:02 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-20 16:03 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-21 00:15 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2019-02-19 08:49 -0700
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2019-02-19 10:01 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-19 16:45 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-20 12:05 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-21 20:59 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-21 22:36 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-22 18:29 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-22 20:03 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-02-22 15:42 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 10:01 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-02-19 09:06 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-02-19 11:12 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:07 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 10:15 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-02-19 12:21 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-20 12:07 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-02-20 10:52 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-20 23:07 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-20 17:17 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 23:16 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-20 15:38 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 00:11 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-20 16:23 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-20 16:31 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 08:54 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Lucifer <LuciferMorningstar@bigpond.com> - 2019-02-23 08:32 +1100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-22 13:52 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2019-02-23 10:33 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-23 16:39 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? David in Devon <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 08:54 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-21 01:29 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-20 17:02 -0800
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2019-02-20 19:36 -0700
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-21 12:17 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2019-02-21 10:32 -0700
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-21 20:45 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-21 22:42 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-21 16:52 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-22 20:05 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-22 16:36 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-23 14:15 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-23 08:31 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-18 14:16 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 16:28 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-18 16:40 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 16:45 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-02-18 10:10 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 16:28 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2019-02-18 22:35 +0100
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 00:10 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-02-19 09:42 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-18 23:55 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-02-18 18:04 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 01:14 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? bje@ripco.com - 2019-02-19 11:40 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-19 15:06 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-19 19:43 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-02-19 15:42 -0600
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-19 19:02 -0500
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? anonymous <a@a.invalid> - 2019-02-20 00:22 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-20 00:24 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? kass <kass@kake.invalid> - 2019-02-20 00:44 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-20 00:49 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? lwo <a@a.invalid> - 2019-02-20 00:59 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-19 20:56 +0000
Re: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-19 13:22 -0800
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 21:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4hrh1$7h9$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #54060 |
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:52:55 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > It is worthwhile discussing or debating about these things but arlen > isn't the one to be doing it with. Mike & William & Paul & Carlos, (You're the only adults on this thread) I wasn't going to respond anymore to this thread because the worthless trolls have long ago taken it over, and, besides ... the original post clearly was stating that Mike's article's advice to use a proxy instead of a vpn was "nice words", but completely non actionable in the case of Usenet posts, which is _why_ I use VPN. Proving that FACT was the main purpose of this thread o Although I would have been ECSTATIC had a proxy actually existed! I'm writing below to EXPLAIN the obvious to you since... o You don't seem to comprehend _even_ the most obvious of the obvious. As William Unruh noted, my intent in changing headers (one of which is the NNTP posting host, obfuscated or not, and static or not) is not to hide _content_ from the public since Usenet posts _are_ public, where, I assert, if it takes you more than five seconds to figure out my posts, then you are an idiot, since my posts are clearly and easily discernable. Despite that I never troll, you can _claim_ all sorts of nefarious purposes for me to want to NOT posting using my personal IP address (the same address of which I've had for about a decade now)... but you may as well claim that I'm beating my wife, since you have _zero_ evidence for any veiled or open claims of nefarious purposes. I proved to Mike with reliable cites that NOBODY NEEDS TO DEFEND their right to privacy, if you, Mike, or you, William, want to take away my right to privacy, then you have to show us good reason for you to want that, given I never troll NOTE OF THE OBVIOUS FOR UTTER IDIOTS (for Christs' sake): o If I wanted to troll, I would post to threads _other_ than my Q&A threads o If I wanted to troll, I would bring up Trump or some other mining topic o If I wanted to troll, I'd have field day with the likes of Dan Purgert, et al. I'm not even going to go into all the idiocy that you guys spew for WHY you think nobody on this planet should have any right to privacy, which both you (Mike) and William intimated with your "nym shifting" insults. The fact is that I have posted (oh shit, Cybe(r) Wizard is gonna make me count them) many many many many many thousands of posts to Usenet over the years, Mike and William. I'm so sick and tired of _explaining_ this, simplest of simple things to people like you Mike and William that I wonder if there are _any_ adults on Usenet who can comprehend even the simplest of the simplest of use models. For Christs' Sake, Mike & William - use your adult brains for once! o Please think like an adult thinks (not like those idiot trolls think) o Please realize we're talking NNTP header privacy, Mike & William o Please realize the BODY isn't what we're privatizing - it's the header! For Christs' sake ... why can't you _comprehend_ something _that_ simple? o This isn't quantum physics you know This is really freaking simple stuff, Mike & William o If you don't understand header privacy - then ... you understand nothing. Again, this isn't string theory William and Mike o If you can't comprehend header privacy - then - you comprehend nothing. What on earth is so "complex" to you guys about header privacy? o My problem with all your crap is that you assume nefarious purposes o It's like saying nobody needs privacy because everyone beats their wife What you guys (Mike & William) are saying is that everyone beats their wife! o I _expect_ the trolls to say idiotic things like that, Mike & William But I expect you two (and Carlos), to act like adults o If you think I'm beating my wife, then prove that I'm beating my wife Otherwise, STOP assuming header privacy is ONLY for nefarious purposes. o The concept of header privacy is not quantum entanglement, guys. The concept of header privacy is fifth-grade simple stuff Mike & William o I _expect_ Purgert, Wizard, Rene, Wildman, et al. to NOT comprehend it But I expect adults like Mike, William, and Carlos to comprehend it o Changing the IP address is a basic component of header privacy If you can't comprehend something _that_ simple, Mike, Carlos, & William o Then I posit you have absolutely no right to discuss VPN vs proxy o Since changing a header is trivial compared to the topic of VPN vs proxy The main point here is that Mike's article advised using a "proxy", and yet, for Usenet header privacy, nobody can _find_ any proxy that exists. Hence, the article suggested completely unworkable bullshit. o It's like the article suggesting that light can exceed the speed of 1 (William will understand that statement.) If you want to show that light exceeds the speed of 1, then you have to at least show one example, in empirical results, that shows it happening. If you can't find even a _single_ proxy that can replace using VPN as a "glorified proxy", then the "advice" to "don't use VPN - use a proxy" is comlete total and utter bullshit. I am a well educated man, as you are aware - and I do NOT bullshit. o My material facts have _never_ been proven wrong I do NOT bullshit. o I would LOVE to use a proxy instead of a VPN for header privacy But the proxy suggestion instantly FAILS a simple 3-word test: o Name just one -- Note 1: In thousands upon thousands upon thousands of posts over the decades, I must have accidentally been wrong on material fact at least once, since Usenet is a casual medium and since I'm only human, but the point is that my credibility is stellar on FACTS + LOGIC (which is all I ask of you).
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s90d80ab83.gahu4@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54063 |
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: ... > If you can't find even a _single_ proxy that can replace using VPN as a > "glorified proxy", then the "advice" to "don't use VPN - use a proxy" > is comlete total and utter bullshit. > https://www.socks-proxy.net/ <quote> Socks proxies that are just checked and updated every 10 minutes Share on FacebookTweetSkypeSend emailShare on Google+Print Show  entries Search all columns: IP Address Port Code Country Version Anonymity Https Last Checked 104.244.72.171 53503 LU Luxembourg Socks4 Anonymous Yes 1 minute ago 47.88.34.235 1080 US United States Socks4 Anonymous Yes 1 minute ago 168.194.191.167 4145 BR Brazil Socks4 Anonymous Yes 1 minute ago ... Showing 1 to 20 of 80 entries </quote>
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 13:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <gd3bjqFf7f8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #54066 |
owl wrote: > arlen holder wrote: > ... >> If you can't find even a _single_ proxy that can replace using VPN as a >> "glorified proxy", then the "advice" to "don't use VPN - use a proxy" >> is comlete total and utter bullshit. >> > > https://www.socks-proxy.net/ > That is a useful site and has variable free proxies. The 'real-deal' the site offers actually has a price ranging from $5.6-8.5/mo depending on the length of pay period. "Free proxies are usually slow, unstable and die fast. It takes much time to find new working proxies every day. Our product My IP Hide can save your time (life). It uses our private proxy servers. We manage and tune them to ensure they are always working and fast." Most importantly, what your message conveys is a 'correct'/accurate rebuttal to arlen's repetitive diatribe. (with limitations, which his VPN solution ALSO has). -- Mike Easter
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 22:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <z9xb03gag.3u9uo43@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54069 |
Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
> owl wrote:
>> arlen holder wrote:
>> ...
>>> If you can't find even a _single_ proxy that can replace using VPN as a
>>> "glorified proxy", then the "advice" to "don't use VPN - use a proxy"
>>> is comlete total and utter bullshit.
>>>
>>
>> https://www.socks-proxy.net/
>>
> That is a useful site and has variable free proxies. The 'real-deal'
> the site offers actually has a price ranging from $5.6-8.5/mo depending
> on the length of pay period.
>
> "Free proxies are usually slow, unstable and die fast. It takes much
> time to find new working proxies every day.
>
> Our product My IP Hide can save your time (life). It uses our private
> proxy servers. We manage and tune them to ensure they are always working
> and fast."
>
> Most importantly, what your message conveys is a 'correct'/accurate
> rebuttal to arlen's repetitive diatribe. (with limitations, which his
> VPN solution ALSO has).
>
You don't have to use that list. There are scores of socks proxy lists
all over the place. Just install and configure proxychains (which uses
tor by default) with whatever proxies you want. Works just fine.
proxychains(1) proxychains(1)
NAME
ProxyChains - redirect connections through proxy servers
SYNTAX
proxychains <program>
DESCRIPTION
This program forces any tcp connection made by any given tcp client to
follow through proxy (or proxy chain). It is a kind of proxifier.
It acts like sockscap / premeo / eborder driver (intercepts TCP calls).
This version (2.0) supports SOCKS4, SOCKS5 and HTTP CONNECT proxy
servers. Auth-types: socks - "user/pass" , http - "basic".
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 22:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4hvfs$f9l$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #54070 |
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 22:00:14 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > You don't have to use that list. There are scores of socks proxy lists > all over the place. Just install and configure proxychains (which uses > tor by default) with whatever proxies you want. Works just fine. Hi owl, I don't bullshit. o I perform ACTIONABLE tasks I don't know of you, so I take only what you write at face value. o If what you suggest is ACTIONABLE, let's do it now. It should take us all of a few minutes to get it up and running, right? o Certainly the VPN solution is working in just minutes on all platforms. What started this thread was a simple post that Mike saw where I wrote up how anyone in five minutes could be up and running on VPN for free, on all platforms, whether they be on Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, or Android. In five minutes, with just two "files", they could choose from any of thousands of IP addresses in order to not show their actual IP address in their NNTP headers. 1. They download a free text openvpn config file (I have six thousand) 2. They install any free openvpen client (works on all platforms) It's really that simple to be "up and running" on VPN in five minutes. My question to you is what steps can you provide to me, similar to the steps that I provided in the original tutorial that Mike originally responded to, so that I'm up and running on all platforms with this SOCKS idea in a similar time frame and effort frame? Let's start with Windows 10 and Android for now, and then Ubuntu 18.10. o From years of experience, I have found most general-purpose o solutions work best when that is the priority order. What are the work-flow steps to get the SOCKS idea to run on all platforms? o What are your suggested ACTIONABLE sequence of steps?
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 22:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <80zxb8083a.gy@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54073 |
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 22:00:14 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >> You don't have to use that list. There are scores of socks proxy lists >> all over the place. Just install and configure proxychains (which uses >> tor by default) with whatever proxies you want. Works just fine. > > Hi owl, > I don't bullshit. > o I perform ACTIONABLE tasks > > I don't know of you, so I take only what you write at face value. > o If what you suggest is ACTIONABLE, let's do it now. > > It should take us all of a few minutes to get it up and running, right? > o Certainly the VPN solution is working in just minutes on all platforms. > > What started this thread was a simple post that Mike saw where I wrote up > how anyone in five minutes could be up and running on VPN for free, on all > platforms, whether they be on Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, or Android. > > In five minutes, with just two "files", they could choose from any of > thousands of IP addresses in order to not show their actual IP address in > their NNTP headers. > 1. They download a free text openvpn config file (I have six thousand) > 2. They install any free openvpen client (works on all platforms) > > It's really that simple to be "up and running" on VPN in five minutes. > > My question to you is what steps can you provide to me, similar to the > steps that I provided in the original tutorial that Mike originally > responded to, so that I'm up and running on all platforms with this SOCKS > idea in a similar time frame and effort frame? > > Let's start with Windows 10 and Android for now, and then Ubuntu 18.10. > o From years of experience, I have found most general-purpose > o solutions work best when that is the priority order. > > What are the work-flow steps to get the SOCKS idea to run on all platforms? > o What are your suggested ACTIONABLE sequence of steps? I only use Linux. I don't care about other OSes. Just install proxychains and you're good to go. If you don't want it to use tor, just add a proxy to proxychains.conf. Then, assuming pan is your newsreader, run: $ proxychains pan (Of course, you will have configured pan to connect to the appropriate news server).
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 22:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4huta$dsb$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #54069 |
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 13:43:21 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > Most importantly, what your message conveys is a 'correct'/accurate > rebuttal to arlen's repetitive diatribe. (with limitations, which his > VPN solution ALSO has). Hi Mike, Again, I was NOT going to post more to this thread because the trolls have long ago taken it over, but, as you know, I am always improving tribal knowledge, which is how you saw that original tutorial that started this mess. :) The _first_ question to ask is HOW would this SOCKS proxy be used to be able to change the IP address related NNTP header line to any of thousands of possibilities? I don't bullshit, Mike. o If a _better_ general-purpose solution existed, I'd use it Mike. I am _always_ seeking better general-purpose solutions o If this "SOCKS" idea works, then let's work on that together, Mike. As adults, Mike. o That means we have to deal with actual FACTS & LOGIC, Mike. For example, most (almost all, in fact) of my general-purpose solutions work on _all_ platforms, Mike, which the OpenVPN + free NNTP server solution certainly does. That means the general-purpose PROXY solution must work on: o Linux (mostly Ubuntu 18.10, for obvious reasons) o Windows (mostly Windows 10, for obvious reasons) o Mac (I won't be testing that though) o iOS (mostly iOS 12.x for obvious reasons) o Android (mostly Android 6,7,8 for obvious reasons) Where do we start in finding a tutorial for this PROXY solution o I'd start with Windows 10, as the first step o Then I'd go to Linux o Than Android I'd tackle the Apple solutions later, since they're always harder. Since I'm an adult, and since I do NOT bullshit, Mike, I readily and openly admit up front that I haven't _touched_ SOCKS since, oh, I don't know (I have to always worry about Cybe(r) Wizard counting the days), the last time I had to get Pan to work on CentOS or Ubuntu, or whatever, with Mixmin. If there is a _workable_ SOCKs solution, let's _try_ it Mike. The _first_ question to ask is HOW would this SOCKS proxy be used to change the IP address related NNTP header line to any of thousands of possibilities? Bear in mind the VPN solution, as a "glorified proxy", works fine, where, as noted in the very tutorial which started this mess, consists of only two things: 1. A free openvpn client, and, 2. A free openvpn protocol configuration file (which is a text file). That's it. o Yes, it _really_ is _that_ freaking simple. It works on ALL (common consumer) platforms! NOTE: The reason for "free" is clearly to be a "general purpose" solution, and, less clearly, to avoid privacy complexities when cost is involved. As you are aware, Mike, the current free VPN solution has over six thousand different IP addresses to easily choose among, and a goodly number of purposefully free NNTP services (each of which use _different_ methods on the IP headers, so our solution has to take _all_ of them into account). NOTE TO MIKE: You don't take the "general purpose" into account when you speak of simply _one_ or a few of the NNTP services out there - we are creating a general purpose solution that works for _all_ of them, Mike. Since Windows is the starting point almost always, let me seek a Windows-based SOCKS tutorial that we can refer everyone to as a general purpose solution that works on all the platforms, eventually, which easily allows the user to change the IP address related header to any of thousands of possibilities.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 14:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <gd3e0kFfmrlU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #54072 |
arlen holder wrote: > I am _always_ seeking better general-purpose solutions No, you are not. You have a very limited scope of an issue which is far from 'general-purpose' and which you have never adequately or properly defined. It is limited, not because your target is a wide audience, but because YOU are your own central focus, and you like to use all of the devices, android, linux, win, ios, and mac; except that you mostly use win. It is also limited because you have a very narrow minded approach to the applicability of a 'solution' to your 'crazy' (limited application) idea that you need to conceal your IP from your nntp server admin. Or perhaps (alternatively) your (similarly) crazy idea that you need to conceal your ENCRYPTED IP from usenet header readers. Either way, it is NOT a 'general-purpose' idea at all. It is an 'arlen-only' micro-narrow idea. proxychains (per se) does not apply to all of your devices, but linux, bsd, & mac. You would have to find similar proxy-strategy alternatives for your other personal devices such as Win and android and ios. -- Mike Easter
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 23:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4i229$kkg$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #54074 |
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 14:24:19 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > It is also limited because you have a very narrow minded approach to the > applicability of a 'solution' to your 'crazy' (limited application) idea > that you need to conceal your IP from your nntp server admin. Jesus Christ Mike, o Stop it! I _though_ you could _think_ like an _adult_ thinks, Mike. o But EVERY post from you proves you own the brain of a small child, Mike. Jesus Christ. o HINT: I am NOT primarily seeking privacy from the NNTP posting host. I've said this so many times that it's clear you don't WANT to comprehend. o You just want to spew your moronic VPN-trolling bullshit, Mike. Seriously. o Grow up. What on earth is WRONG with your brain Mike? o Just look at your idiotic sentence above, Mike. Look at it, for Christs' sake, Mike! o Only an utter moron would say what you just said. Especially after I EXPLAINED the use model to you Mike. o Stop proving you own the brain of the lemon-juice bank robber, Mike. Just stop it. o I've never dealt with people who prove to be as stupid as you seem to be. Stop saying utter and total bullshit Mike. o Just stop. You REPEAT that moronic diatribe over & over & over again, Mike. o Stop it. Just stop. o Stop proving your brain is that of the Dunning Kruger lemon juice guy. NOBODY ON THIS PLANET EXCEPT YOU SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID MIKE. o Jesus Christ ... Mike. You can't comprehend even the _simplest_ of the simplest of things, Mike. I'm out of here because YOU are a fucking moron Mike. o There is NO other way to explain someone who repeats what you write. ONLY A MORON THINKS LIKE YOU DO MIKE. o Really... You're too stupid for me to even _comprehend_ your stupidity. HINT: I am NOT seeking privacy from the fucking NNTP posting host. For Christ's sake Mike. o Grow a fucking synapse. Just stop this idiotic nonsense. o You have in your head the craziest ideas that make no sense to anyone. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE SAYING I"M HIDING FROM THE NNTP SERVER. For Christ's sake, Mike. o Form a synapse. I am DONE with this thread. o It's filled to the brim with utter morons who understand NOTHING. And yet, like the dunning kruger bank robber, they make outlandish statements. Nobody is as stupid as you appear to be Mike. o Nobody. You can't comprehend even the _simplest_ of concepts, Mike. You want to know why? I think I know why. o You're a keyword troll, Mike. That's all you can do is spew the same utter bullshit, every time, Mike. o It doesn't even matter the topic Mike - it's the same utter infantile bullshit.
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 17:20 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20190219172004.5e3c0925@WizardsTower> |
| In reply to | #54076 |
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:04:42 -0000 (UTC) arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: > I'm out of here because YOU are a fucking moron Mike. Would that it were true. There's no more truth to that than to your posting the claim that you were not going to post to the thread again. Twice. -- Cybe R. Wizard Irony is the hygiene of the mind. Elizabeth Bibesco
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 15:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <gd3hg5Fgcu9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #54076 |
arlen holder wrote: > I am NOT primarily seeking privacy from the NNTP posting host. So, then it must be the alternative I presented that you snipped; ME: > Or perhaps (alternatively) your (similarly) crazy idea that you need to conceal your ENCRYPTED IP from usenet header readers. Either way, it is NOT a 'general-purpose' idea at all. It is an 'arlen-only' micro-narrow idea. You should spend a few more words defining your aim and a LOT less castigating. -- Mike Easter
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 23:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zxcv908tg0qq.43u@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #54076 |
In alt.os.linux arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 14:24:19 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > >> It is also limited because you have a very narrow minded approach to the >> applicability of a 'solution' to your 'crazy' (limited application) idea >> that you need to conceal your IP from your nntp server admin. > > Jesus Christ Mike, > o Stop it! > > I _though_ you could _think_ like an _adult_ thinks, Mike. > o But EVERY post from you proves you own the brain of a small child, Mike. > > Jesus Christ. > o HINT: I am NOT primarily seeking privacy from the NNTP posting host. > > I've said this so many times that it's clear you don't WANT to comprehend. > o You just want to spew your moronic VPN-trolling bullshit, Mike. > > Seriously. > o Grow up. > > What on earth is WRONG with your brain Mike? > o Just look at your idiotic sentence above, Mike. > > Look at it, for Christs' sake, Mike! > o Only an utter moron would say what you just said. > > Especially after I EXPLAINED the use model to you Mike. > o Stop proving you own the brain of the lemon-juice bank robber, Mike. > > Just stop it. > o I've never dealt with people who prove to be as stupid as you seem to be. > > Stop saying utter and total bullshit Mike. > o Just stop. > > You REPEAT that moronic diatribe over & over & over again, Mike. > o Stop it. > > Just stop. > o Stop proving your brain is that of the Dunning Kruger lemon juice guy. > > NOBODY ON THIS PLANET EXCEPT YOU SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID MIKE. > o Jesus Christ ... Mike. > > You can't comprehend even the _simplest_ of the simplest of things, Mike. > > I'm out of here because YOU are a fucking moron Mike. > o There is NO other way to explain someone who repeats what you write. > > ONLY A MORON THINKS LIKE YOU DO MIKE. > o Really... You're too stupid for me to even _comprehend_ your stupidity. > > HINT: I am NOT seeking privacy from the fucking NNTP posting host. > Well, aioe has a limit of 40 posts per IP per day, so there are circumstances, such as if you don't have a life, where it would help to be able to connect with a new IP and exceed that limit. Also, since the same IP will encrypt the same each time, if you want to have any sock puppets, you'll appreciate the ability to have them come in on different IPs.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-02-20 13:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq6ql5m.idk.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #54074 |
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Mike Easter wrote:
> arlen holder wrote:
>
>> I am _always_ seeking better general-purpose solutions
>
> No, you are not.
>
> You have a very limited scope of an issue which is far from
> 'general-purpose' and which you have never adequately or properly defined.
To that end, even if it's "defined", it's usually done so using the
wrong words ("Sliding files" comes to mind). And, when clarity is
sought, the requesters for said clarity are belittled for "not
understanding the brilliance" or some such.
But at least we can have our enlightening side-discussions :).
> [...]
> It is also limited because you have a very narrow minded approach to the
> applicability of a 'solution' to your 'crazy' (limited application) idea
> that you need to conceal your IP from your nntp server admin. Or
> perhaps (alternatively) your (similarly) crazy idea that you need to
> conceal your ENCRYPTED IP from usenet header readers. Either way, it is
> NOT a 'general-purpose' idea at all. It is an 'arlen-only' micro-narrow
> idea.
To that end, I haven't been able to find any resources that confirm
whether or not the nntp posting-host ID provided by Mixmin is derived
from the IP.
As it stands (from my POV), the current burden-of-proof lies with
someone saying it is derived from the poster's IP.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-20 09:15 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <gd5g9lFthbuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #54095 |
Dan Purgert wrote: > To that end, I haven't been able to find any resources that confirm > whether or not the nntp posting-host ID provided by Mixmin is derived > from the IP. > > As it stands (from my POV), the current burden-of-proof lies with > someone saying it is derived from the poster's IP. > I've done a little more investigating of the various 'forms' of information provided by e-s eternal-september, NIN news.individual.net, & mm mixmin. I think, but I cannot *prove* it (but some parts might be provable), that there is some 'slice' or fragment of arlen's position or thinking or POV that may be valid. That is, I think the info in the NIN line is a complex mass of base64 which also includes the IP connecting to the NIN server; that the info in the e-s line is also complex, with more than one 'complicating' value besides the IP, and that the info in the mm line is simply such as a hash of the IP and is not 'complex' as the others. Thus, given the same connecting IP, that the info in the e-s and NIN lines is going to vary, while the info in the mm line does not. That makes arlen's exposed info more 'vulnerable' to cracking such as by the adversaries he may create for himself on usenet by rudeness and ad hominem slurs. And, I believe that in the name of 'privacy' he chooses to use mm because it doesn't require an account with authentication; but that if his adversaries are actually the usenet header reader adversaries rather than the nntp admin, then he might not have his priorities in the same order that I would put them. That is, I would pick an nntp provider that handled the info string differently even if it meant I needed to register to get an account. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-02-20 18:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq6r7r2.idk.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #54099 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Mike Easter wrote: > Dan Purgert wrote: >> To that end, I haven't been able to find any resources that confirm >> whether or not the nntp posting-host ID provided by Mixmin is derived >> from the IP. >> >> As it stands (from my POV), the current burden-of-proof lies with >> someone saying it is derived from the poster's IP. >> > > I've done a little more investigating of the various 'forms' of > information provided by e-s eternal-september, NIN news.individual.net, > & mm mixmin. > > I think, but I cannot *prove* it (but some parts might be provable), > that there is some 'slice' or fragment of arlen's position or thinking > or POV that may be valid. Yeah, which is why the burden of proof is "prove it uses the IP at all", and not "prove it doesn't" (given the claims of course). Granted, this is probably a trivial test -- but I'm not using mixmin, nor do I care to poke at it. > That is, I think the info in the NIN line is a complex mass of base64 > which also includes the IP connecting to the NIN server; that the info > in the e-s line is also complex, with more than one 'complicating' value > besides the IP, and that the info in the mm line is simply such as a > hash of the IP and is not 'complex' as the others. Most likely it's the base64 encoding of some cipher, e.g. AES. However, like I said before, the only source(s) that could confirm it would be the relevant server admin; and chances are pretty high he has no inclination to do so. > > Thus, given the same connecting IP, that the info in the e-s and NIN > lines is going to vary, while the info in the mm line does not. > > That makes arlen's exposed info more 'vulnerable' to cracking such as by > the adversaries he may create for himself on usenet by rudeness and ad > hominem slurs. Don't even need to crack it. We could just email the mixmin admins and say "hey, this posting-host needs a timeout" (or equivalent). :D > [...] > That is, I would pick an nntp provider that handled the info string > differently even if it meant I needed to register to get an account. Or hell, just throw up a "proxy(tm)" on digitalOcean, and post through there, and not worry about giving *their* IP to the world. Granted that doesn't solve "but I wanna spam like mad, and not get cut off", or other similar "bad intentions". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEBcqaUD8uEzVNxUrujhHd8xJ5ooEFAlxtn2IACgkQjhHd8xJ5 ooGVTAf+Izl3sGipe2DE6hCuLWr+PDgRVyu7I2skr2bQ7yJw8dw8DH9eZLiship0 gOCI+DJg60RF/W3/JmPrZmGIi2AF015cR4nZIlcyvfoFNmnKagBavFDP1CqazM9s bwGr7CP2EXXouSsKSMeJs5jsmecltjUL3k/sn2v65XeOZvMV0Ge7giVbdXhB/uPz 6A2NrNtRXhkqyf6eWvyb4PUwLTFrzy88QVQx8WjxbdyfGaayjfkfPGwF/CXiKes2 xNVL3j5W2f84fi43ZZFBu3V4NAyeoNiOkDDSDdG8O86fjEz1sbQbRVUh+CoShRC6 P83vlBRIALtPIJjI9kIasnHH0eeWFA== =5IBG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-20 22:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <86v0kf-ule.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #54100 |
On 20/02/2019 19.41, Dan Purgert wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> Dan Purgert wrote: ... >> That is, I think the info in the NIN line is a complex mass of base64 >> which also includes the IP connecting to the NIN server; that the info >> in the e-s line is also complex, with more than one 'complicating' value >> besides the IP, and that the info in the mm line is simply such as a >> hash of the IP and is not 'complex' as the others. > > > Most likely it's the base64 encoding of some cipher, e.g. AES. However, > like I said before, the only source(s) that could confirm it would be > the relevant server admin; and chances are pretty high he has no > inclination to do so. Well, if the server is using Linux it is then very possible that the server is at least open source, then the method used to create that header would be known. Guessing, there would be some key file stored at the server, so that we can not decode the string, unless an attack on it is known. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-02-20 22:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq6rk3k.idk.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #54108 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 20/02/2019 19.41, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> Dan Purgert wrote: > > ... > >>> That is, I think the info in the NIN line is a complex mass of base64 >>> which also includes the IP connecting to the NIN server; that the info >>> in the e-s line is also complex, with more than one 'complicating' value >>> besides the IP, and that the info in the mm line is simply such as a >>> hash of the IP and is not 'complex' as the others. >> >> >> Most likely it's the base64 encoding of some cipher, e.g. AES. However, >> like I said before, the only source(s) that could confirm it would be >> the relevant server admin; and chances are pretty high he has no >> inclination to do so. > > Well, if the server is using Linux it is then very possible that the > server is at least open source, then the method used to create that > header would be known. > > Guessing, there would be some key file stored at the server, so that we > can not decode the string, unless an attack on it is known. Given the myriad of encipherment options available, we could likely narrow it down, but knowing the _exact_ cipher may get "fun". Not to mention that even if we knew that, we need to know other details to reverse it. Ran a mixmin posting-host ID through a hash-check tool, and got 18 possibilities, including things like MD2(!!!) or DNSSEC/NSEC3. Thats as much as I care about it though ;) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEBcqaUD8uEzVNxUrujhHd8xJ5ooEFAlxt0HQACgkQjhHd8xJ5 ooGgEQf+OQyYoh4kQGAm6v0a7H7jlApozYqb9Jm9qn8FatErepzZdKUMTXSjyLOn J0A/fkwBrh40MOsgP6GLSmVF676CnIUhLm3YmJHcKQqcvEifP9pxBDcF7Ylq7+rT 7yrnjFCCU+TWNhwLPfH9TardIz0XGDxutpZa1I6IZ9RZBNOVDGiww5bYmKdpRwus C+/PWrQ0LQCsnVu0Oz1VRwelu0P8SGV+3EMK/EuqWuMcmEUoVk6nvWByNZVwFHJm aWS/uECC7QrskaSnPNRu8/hl0lbkkL9IXBMVsiX/h0rZTYkxJX3gvDh2Bj6DGg4R 4XsXJ7TOH/s6WTophbxkLmsddLO20w== =yvrO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 15:39 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20190219153900.2fbc4c35@WizardsTower> |
| In reply to | #54063 |
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 21:13:06 -0000 (UTC) arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: > The fact is that I have posted (oh shit, Cybe(r) Wizard is gonna make > me count Yeah, we all know how difficult that is for you. Excuse me for using words too big. I meant that we all know how hard that is for you to do. BTW, don't mention me and I won't post about how you lie about your supposed: 10,000 tutorials Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net> Each time you sidestep or ignore the disclosing of your lies you show yourself to be the lying duplicitous idiot that you are, Arlene Holdout. Here, once again, is a pointer to the biggest lie I know of that you've so far told: Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net> You know the one; it's where you said that you've written TEN THOUSAND tutorials. Shut me up, Horlew, merely by showing that searchable list. Hell, just show the list. The instant that you show a viable list of TEN THOUSAND tutorials that YOU have written I will shut up about it, I guarantee and promise. Be a man and 'fess up to being a liar otherwise. Failing to do either, you are just and only a liar. ...and not much of a man, either. -- Cybe R. Wizard My other computer is a HOLMES IV with the Mycroft OS
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| From | William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 23:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4i34g$1he$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #54063 |
On 2019-02-19, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:52:55 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > >> It is worthwhile discussing or debating about these things but arlen >> isn't the one to be doing it with. > > Mike & William & Paul & Carlos, > (You're the only adults on this thread) > > I wasn't going to respond anymore to this thread because the worthless > trolls have long ago taken it over, and, besides ... the original post > clearly was stating that Mike's article's advice to use a proxy instead of > a vpn was "nice words", but completely non actionable in the case of Usenet > posts, which is _why_ I use VPN. > > Proving that FACT was the main purpose of this thread > o Although I would have been ECSTATIC had a proxy actually existed! > > I'm writing below to EXPLAIN the obvious to you since... > o You don't seem to comprehend _even_ the most obvious of the obvious. > > As William Unruh noted, my intent in changing headers (one of which is the > NNTP posting host, obfuscated or not, and static or not) is not to hide > _content_ from the public since Usenet posts _are_ public, where, I assert, > if it takes you more than five seconds to figure out my posts, then you are > an idiot, since my posts are clearly and easily discernable. If you do not want your address showing, tell your usenet software to put in a fake address. As in my posts. > > Despite that I never troll, you can _claim_ all sorts of nefarious purposes Well I think if there were a vote of all the people who have read this series posts by you inthis thread, they would vote that you are trolling. Just as claims of not doing evil things by VPN providers is junverifyable, your claims about your own mental state are equally unverifyable. > for me to want to NOT posting using my personal IP address (the same > address of which I've had for about a decade now)... but you may as well > claim that I'm beating my wife, since you have _zero_ evidence for any > veiled or open claims of nefarious purposes. The only evidence I have are the posts themselves. For me that is sufficient. Do you really want that poll of the readers to see what they think? > > I proved to Mike with reliable cites that NOBODY NEEDS TO DEFEND their > right to privacy, if you, Mike, or you, William, want to take away my right Yes, I do believe in a right to privacy. But yes, people do and have had to throught history, had to defend their right to privacy. But then I never stated that you did troll. I said, if you are trolling then I have no interest in helping you. It is you that seem to be taking that to heart. And yes, if you ask for my opinion, I do believe that you are trolling. But that is my opinion, and and my having opinions is something else I do not need to defend I hope. > to privacy, then you have to show us good reason for you to want that, > given I never troll > d> NOTE OF THE OBVIOUS FOR UTTER IDIOTS (for Christs' sake): > o If I wanted to troll, I would post to threads _other_ than my Q&A threads > o If I wanted to troll, I would bring up Trump or some other mining topic > o If I wanted to troll, I'd have field day with the likes of Dan Purgert, et al. There are many ways of trolling. Your list is not exhaustive. > ... Enough >
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-02-20 13:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq6qmaf.idk.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #54078 |
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William Unruh wrote:
> On 2019-02-19, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:52:55 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>>> It is worthwhile discussing or debating about these things but arlen
>>> isn't the one to be doing it with.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> As William Unruh noted, my intent in changing headers (one of which
>> is the NNTP posting host, obfuscated or not, and static or not) is
>> not to hide _content_ from the public since Usenet posts _are_
>> public, where, I assert, if it takes you more than five seconds to
>> figure out my posts, then you are an idiot, since my posts are
>> clearly and easily discernable.
>
> If you do not want your address showing, tell your usenet software to
> put in a fake address. As in my posts.
I think he's talking about the injection info -- such as what E-S
applies for you:
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org;
posting-host="03b7b748bb3b9208bd1b77b4f01b1233";
logging-data="1582";
mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";
posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18xuIN6PSAS/FwdjlCmFZPH"
Specifically, the "posting-host" identifier. He seems to believe that
this hash can be reversed in order to get one's posting IP.
In our cases (as both you and I post via E-S), the authority of "how"
these are generated (and whether it's reversable) would be Ray Banana.
> [...]
>>
>> I proved to Mike with reliable cites that NOBODY NEEDS TO DEFEND their
>> right to privacy, if you, Mike, or you, William, want to take away my
>> right
>
> Yes, I do believe in a right to privacy. But yes, people do and have had
> to throught history, had to defend their right to privacy.
Yet, we're not in a "private" place when posting to Usenet.
Furthermore, I don't see Mike Easter attacking your desire for
"privacy", but rather exposing the fact that the "privacy services" may
not be doing what it is you think they're doing.
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