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| Started by | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| First post | 2019-01-20 04:38 +0000 |
| Last post | 2019-07-29 05:33 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 432 — 38 participants |
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Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 04:38 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-20 06:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 07:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 09:31 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 09:21 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 11:15 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 11:27 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 12:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:05 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 15:33 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 22:00 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 17:17 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 23:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 21:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 23:14 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-20 14:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 22:15 +0000
AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-20 09:22 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-20 10:54 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-21 11:11 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 20:36 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-21 13:06 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 18:45 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-25 11:39 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 20:17 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-25 12:48 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 03:44 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-25 20:31 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2019-01-25 21:10 -0500
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-26 12:27 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2019-01-25 17:09 -0600
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 07:02 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-26 09:14 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 01:28 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2019-01-26 20:24 -0600
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 06:29 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 09:09 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 09:19 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 17:47 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 10:05 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 18:25 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 10:48 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 11:08 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 20:34 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:23 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 22:16 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:32 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 23:16 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 15:40 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 01:42 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 18:12 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 13:10 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-28 08:08 -0600
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-28 09:24 -0600
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 15:41 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-01-28 12:34 -0600
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-28 01:49 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 18:52 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-27 19:37 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-28 03:51 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2019-01-28 16:57 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-28 10:08 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-28 10:42 -0800
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 18:53 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 20:14 +0000
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:27 -0600
Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 20:41 +0000
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 04:41 +0000
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 04:52 +0000
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:47 +0000
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 23:22 -0600
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:46 +0000
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-24 05:25 -0800
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 20:14 +0000
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 14:21 -0600
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 14:27 -0600
Re: AH's LAN Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-01-24 17:07 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-20 12:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-21 06:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 14:05 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 23:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-21 18:35 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 00:37 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 01:52 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 06:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 23:40 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 08:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-22 01:16 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 02:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-22 19:02 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-23 07:36 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 09:56 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-23 19:52 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 07:28 +0000
Re:Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 09:17 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 09:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 12:03 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 12:15 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 11:42 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 12:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 12:39 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:55 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 15:01 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:27 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-20 14:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:37 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 03:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 11:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 23:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-21 18:20 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-22 00:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-21 19:04 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-21 18:29 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-01-20 08:42 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-20 15:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 15:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 01:06 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 11:11 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 14:06 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 22:59 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 15:21 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 23:57 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 15:58 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 22:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-21 17:55 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-22 00:01 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 02:45 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Eric Ericksen <ee@buzz.example> - 2019-01-21 22:00 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 06:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-22 10:29 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-22 08:17 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-22 14:28 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-22 09:27 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-21 19:20 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 08:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 13:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 14:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 05:42 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 12:07 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 06:29 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 11:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:46 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:59 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 04:46 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2019-01-21 12:03 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-21 18:39 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-21 19:13 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 14:47 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 20:43 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 17:30 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-21 14:34 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Peter Pearson <pkpearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2019-01-22 17:05 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 01:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 20:38 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 02:15 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 21:19 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 04:22 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Troi <ferengi@starman.com.invalid> - 2019-01-21 22:29 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-21 23:17 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 02:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-22 18:56 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 01:08 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 10:55 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 08:05 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 09:59 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 15:16 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:21 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 15:29 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 16:01 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:38 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:17 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:45 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 19:13 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:29 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 09:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 08:07 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:50 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-24 10:04 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 15:34 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 21:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 21:42 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 07:38 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-23 10:02 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 11:28 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 19:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 14:05 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:36 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:31 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-23 19:53 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-22 10:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 03:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-22 04:21 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 23:38 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 04:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 01:34 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 09:53 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-26 09:41 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:10 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-29 09:33 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-30 03:04 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-26 16:55 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-26 21:32 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 17:16 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 17:28 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:09 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:16 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-29 09:42 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 16:54 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 17:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:41 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 22:34 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:04 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 19:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2019-01-30 08:02 +0200
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 06:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 16:45 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-22 19:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-22 19:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-22 20:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-23 08:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-23 19:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-22 22:36 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-22 17:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-22 21:44 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2019-01-23 16:10 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-20 12:23 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-01-20 18:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-20 13:28 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-21 03:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-23 22:51 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-23 23:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-01-24 15:52 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 18:34 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 04:37 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 23:43 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 06:35 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 01:30 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 07:36 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 07:46 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:27 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 15:39 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:49 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 00:19 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2019-01-26 21:39 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 06:54 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:46 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 13:23 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2019-01-26 16:39 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-26 22:25 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 23:33 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-26 23:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 23:24 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 23:44 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 20:34 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:45 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 18:20 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:53 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 18:30 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 12:59 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:06 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:40 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 19:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:57 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-27 20:02 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2019-01-27 16:32 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 15:03 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:14 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:49 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-26 11:42 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-26 21:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 23:41 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 00:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 22:36 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 11:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 10:10 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:14 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:16 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com.INVALID> - 2019-01-26 09:32 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 02:39 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-26 10:03 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:24 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 00:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-27 00:43 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:09 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:05 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-28 00:52 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 17:14 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 01:48 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-27 00:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 00:39 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:48 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 20:21 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:24 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:06 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-26 16:12 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-27 08:03 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-27 11:53 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:47 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-28 11:30 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 13:23 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-28 18:14 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 18:32 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 18:35 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-28 22:45 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 10:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-29 12:43 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 13:04 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-29 14:44 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 14:09 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-29 15:35 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 15:11 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:02 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-29 09:49 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-29 11:28 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:23 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:38 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 20:45 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 22:26 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 12:23 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-30 07:56 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 15:17 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 22:07 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-30 21:44 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-30 22:16 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-31 11:38 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-31 08:34 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-31 15:24 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-31 08:27 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-31 16:53 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-01 04:01 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-01 09:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-31 11:30 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-01 03:56 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 23:29 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 22:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:09 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:58 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:56 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 17:19 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-28 00:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 17:14 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 19:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:47 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 19:17 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 19:08 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:55 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:50 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 15:02 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:05 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:08 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-29 10:29 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:21 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-29 15:26 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 22:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-01 10:29 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:13 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 22:17 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-30 17:57 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 10:14 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Scaly Ron <moron@hotmail.invalid> - 2019-01-30 18:43 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 11:36 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-30 20:28 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 12:51 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-30 21:51 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 15:32 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2019-01-30 23:46 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-01-31 00:44 +0000
Re: [OT]Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2019-01-30 23:12 -0200
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2019-01-31 00:01 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-01-31 01:25 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-31 11:42 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-31 02:00 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-31 03:32 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-31 11:40 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-31 02:00 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-30 20:31 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-29 22:38 +0100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 22:03 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 22:20 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-26 18:26 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 08:12 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 07:19 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-01 10:29 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-26 09:48 -0500
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 23:46 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-27 08:19 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 13:38 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 20:00 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:18 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:51 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 07:58 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 06:56 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-29 09:24 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 13:28 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 13:24 +1100
Re: Have You Been Pwned? LEO's response! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-23 19:56 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 06:22 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-29 09:14 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-29 10:45 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 06:50 -0600
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-29 17:18 +0000
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-29 09:23 -0800
Re: Have You Been Pwned? Do you have a working cross-platform PASSWD database for Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, & Android on your home LAN? "Arlen G. Holder" <arlingholder@nospam.net> - 2019-07-29 05:33 +0000
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2019-01-21 11:11 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <gamjqrFgvodU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #52831 |
Mike Easter wrote: > - what is the general % of usage of the various OSes (on or off the lan) > - what is the 'nature' of the storage which is available 100% of the time > > This is by way of building the case for some single board system such as > a Pi to become the continuous storage, because it would have the > advantage of being able to be a server as well as a storage. Now I also see in another msg: AH wrote: > The problem was simply that both my Windows 10 machines (that are desktops > which are on full time) are set up by default, to NOT respect SMBv1! So the fact that you happen to leave 2 Win10s on continuously along with their local storage must lead to your consideration that one of them represents the heart or center of your LAN as a parking place for such as caldav or passwd. But, I think a 'better' center for ALL of your various devices would be a singleboard such as Pi or other running a linux. Then it wouldn't matter if you were on your Win10 or something else, and it also wouldn't matter whether either, neither, or both of the Win10s were up. That model would also mimic the concept of the web serving many different devices in your LAN. That model also has the potential 'power' to be a more effective server system if you desired to improve your structure from central storage to server with various types of clients. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2019-01-21 20:36 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <slrnq4cbba.97b.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #52860 |
Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> - what is the general % of usage of the various OSes (on or off the lan)
>> - what is the 'nature' of the storage which is available 100% of the time
>>
>> This is by way of building the case for some single board system such as
>> a Pi to become the continuous storage, because it would have the
>> advantage of being able to be a server as well as a storage.
>
> Now I also see in another msg:
>
> AH wrote:
>> The problem was simply that both my Windows 10 machines (that are desktops
>> which are on full time) are set up by default, to NOT respect SMBv1!
>
> So the fact that you happen to leave 2 Win10s on continuously along with
> their local storage must lead to your consideration that one of them
> represents the heart or center of your LAN as a parking place for such
> as caldav or passwd.
^^^^^^
Don't think you meant passwd there, Mike?
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-21 13:06 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <gamqi2FiestU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #52863 |
Dan Purgert wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> - what is the general % of usage of the various OSes (on or off the lan) >>> - what is the 'nature' of the storage which is available 100% of the time >>> >>> This is by way of building the case for some single board system such as >>> a Pi to become the continuous storage, because it would have the >>> advantage of being able to be a server as well as a storage. >> >> Now I also see in another msg: >> >> AH wrote: >>> The problem was simply that both my Windows 10 machines (that are desktops >>> which are on full time) are set up by default, to NOT respect SMBv1! >> >> So the fact that you happen to leave 2 Win10s on continuously along with >> their local storage must lead to your consideration that one of them >> represents the heart or center of your LAN as a parking place for such >> as caldav or passwd. > ^^^^^^ > > Don't think you meant passwd there, Mike? > Well, I didn't mean the linux passwd command; I was being sloppy with the string to address however he was going to go about synchronizing a pw database, which was leaning toward kdbx at some point. I understand that AH is partial to Win10 of the devices he is prone to run, but he has sufficient familiarity with linux and awareness of such as singleboard devices running linux that I think both of these projects in recent threads, the caldev business, the keepass and smb business, would do very nicely on a singleboard system running all the time. Then he can spend however much time and electrical resources (and hazards) he wants to with his Win10 systems, but the heart of the synchronization system could be the little low cost low resource solution of the linux singleboard. I think I'm agreeing with your Message-ID: <slrnq4a05u.k38.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=154810454900 > This is where you're getting it wrong. Linux happens to be the right > tool for the job at hand. He wants a general solution for all those devices; android, ios, win, linux; for which he is trying to mimic the synchronization functions that many achieve on the internet with his own LAN. I think he should choose a linux strategy which is so popular on that web for his lan; not employ his Win10 system/s simply because he is using them the majority of the time. -- Mike Easter
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-25 18:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2flfg$p5c$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #52865 |
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:06:09 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > Well, I didn't mean the linux passwd command; I was being sloppy with > the string to address however he was going to go about synchronizing a > pw database, which was leaning toward kdbx at some point. Hi Mike, I realize you're being helpful, where I will stay out of the purposefully unhelpful conversations above revolving around silly semantics. When I say "KeePass" database, I trust you comprehend what I mean. When I say "passwd.kdbx", I trust you understand it's the same. Likewise, when I say "iCalendar" database, I trust you comprehend. And when I say "events.ics" I trust you understand what I mean. Mike - if we need to waste our time on silly meaningless semantics, then we will end up being as useless as those children who incessantly waste everyone's time on silly semantics. Let's not play those childish games. > I understand that AH is partial to Win10 of the devices he is prone to > run, but he has sufficient familiarity with linux and awareness of such > as singleboard devices running linux that I think both of these projects > in recent threads, the caldev business, the keepass and smb business, > would do very nicely on a singleboard system running all the time. The goal, as always, is a "general solution", not just a solution for me. Plenty of times I've had solutions where I still strive for the general solution. In general, the general solution needs to be (in order to be 'general'): a. Freeware b. Windowsware While that's just a general requirement for a general solution, you are quite correct that I have "familiarity" with not only Mac, Windows, and Linux, but also with microcontrollers. Here, for example, is a photo of one which happened to be next to my "rats nest" when I snapped those photos for you yesterday of my "LAN setup". <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6954981ap04.jpg> In that picture you can see the cellular femtocell (which is, in essence, a cellular "tower" inside of a house), where the difference in the primitive iOS app functionality versus the better Android app functionality became clear when I needed to distinguish between connecting ot the femtocell versus connecting to the cellular repeater you saw in previous pictures. > Then he can spend however much time and electrical resources (and > hazards) he wants to with his Win10 systems, but the heart of the > synchronization system could be the little low cost low resource > solution of the linux singleboard. Mike, as noted, I already have access to microcontrollers such as this: <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1488083ap05.jpg> But as a "general solution", I'm not sure they fit the problem set. Bear in mind that most of us wire wrapped out own microcontrollers in the "olden days" (early 80s?). I know I designed my own boards, where I knew the assembly language and even the hex code by heart when I programmed the EPROMs for the Motorola 68701 (remember Sam's books!). BTW, my tutorials are in the (sort of) helpful style of those Sam's books, if you remember them, and of the Forest Mims pamphlets (if you remember those) where we cut our teeth on our first diodes and ADCs and TTL circuitry (remember everyone had the yellow TTL books and the blue Linear books on our shelves?). > He wants a general solution for all those devices; android, ios, win, > linux; for which he is trying to mimic the synchronization functions > that many achieve on the internet with his own LAN. Hi Mike, That's EXACTLY what I seek. o Mimic the functionality folks get using the Internet o With a "general" solution on our own personal LAN Certainly there are two fundamental ways of that: 1. I can come up with a solution that only 1/10th the people will use 2. Or I can come up with a solution that doesn't require Linux/MPUs. Clearly I can implement both. But one is more general than the other. As always, these two things make everything harder: A. A "general" solution (often that means free & available) B. A cross-platform solution (often the sticking point is iOS) > I think he should > choose a linux strategy which is so popular on that web for his lan; not > employ his Win10 system/s simply because he is using them the majority > of the time. Hi Mike, I fully _agree_ with you that if all I wanted was 'a good solution', then it would be a Linux server (of any sort), of which I can make plenty. I must repeat that I did NOT realize this was the answer until I found out that servers (of various types) are _still_ not really useful, on Windows. That was my revelation in this thread - for which I appreciate your advice. o I repeat: It was unknown to me how far behind Windows servers were. Given how far behind Linux Windows servers appear to be, the "general" solution can _only_ be a Windows "copy" and "merge" solution (I think). The _best_ solution is, clearly, one which uses a Linux server. o Of that, at this point, I have no doubt (and neither do you). Since I always strive to solve the problem, I am proceeding on a straight line, where the fact that Linux servers, by necessity, are a gravitational certainty, where the "best" solutions inexorably gravitate to Linux. Hence, the "general" solution doesn't really exist, but a decent approximation of that general solution is likely thus: o No full-time server (the db exists in "pieces" scattered about) o No complex setup - the work is in defining the use model o SMB server on Windows (because it is ubiquitous) o SMB client on all other platforms (Linux, Windows, iOS, Android, Mac) Another possible solution is a WebDAV server on Windows but that entails the complexity of setting it up - which detracts from it being a "general solution". As noted, Mike, you and I can set up "a solution", but it's a lot harder to set up a "general solution" that works for almost everyone with zero up-front cost. The USE MODEL I'm gravitating toward as a "general solution" is: o The user modifies the passwd/iCal files on _any_ platform o They export the results at the time of modification o At the time of use, they _import_ those results, as a "merge" This use model fits the passwd usage a bit easier than it fits the iCalendar usage, simply because the passwd file is modified far less often than is a calendar. Essentially, at the time of modification, three actions would be best: 1. The modification of the calendar or passwd file is made on any device 2. That file is exported from that device to central-server storage 3. All devices (on any platform) import that modified file & merge As noted, the sticking point is that 'central-server' storage. I agree. For you and me, it's Linux. For a "general solution", it's usually NOT Linux. PS: I have the general solution working perfectly on all platforms tested other than on iOS, which suffers from lack of suitable clients (so far). o Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/oln0tjMCRYw> o Does a free offline non-Internet calendar app exist for iOS that imports/exports ICS text files? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/OzUOmgJLmZs>
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-25 11:39 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <gb16v4Fr5bcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #53066 |
arlen holder wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: > > >> I understand that AH is partial to Win10 of the devices he is prone to >> run, but he has sufficient familiarity with linux and awareness of such >> as singleboard devices running linux that I think both of these projects >> in recent threads, the caldev business, the keepass and smb business, >> would do very nicely on a singleboard system running all the time. > > The goal, as always, is a "general solution", not just a solution for me. > Plenty of times I've had solutions where I still strive for the general > solution. > > In general, the general solution needs to be (in order to be 'general'): > a. Freeware > b. Windowsware I don't think windowsware fits for this specific device. But, it doesn't have to be a singleboard. It could be a singleboard or a spare old computer lying around the house. Your general target audience here is someone who has a LAN and is wanting to use that LAN similarly to how people use the internet. That isn't the average user. > >> He wants a general solution for all those devices; android, ios, win, >> linux; for which he is trying to mimic the synchronization functions >> that many achieve on the internet with his own LAN. > > Hi Mike, > That's EXACTLY what I seek. > o Mimic the functionality folks get using the Internet > o With a "general" solution on our own personal LAN > > Certainly there are two fundamental ways of that: > 1. I can come up with a solution that only 1/10th the people will use > 2. Or I can come up with a solution that doesn't require Linux/MPUs. I disagree with that analysis and also with that dichotomy. > As always, these two things make everything harder: > A. A "general" solution (often that means free & available) > B. A cross-platform solution (often the sticking point is iOS) > >> I think he should >> choose a linux strategy which is so popular on that web for his lan; not >> employ his Win10 system/s simply because he is using them the majority >> of the time. > > Hi Mike, > I fully _agree_ with you that if all I wanted was 'a good solution', then > it would be a Linux server (of any sort), of which I can make plenty. > > I must repeat that I did NOT realize this was the answer until I found out > that servers (of various types) are _still_ not really useful, on Windows. > > That was my revelation in this thread - for which I appreciate your advice. > o I repeat: It was unknown to me how far behind Windows servers were. > > Given how far behind Linux Windows servers appear to be, the "general" > solution can _only_ be a Windows "copy" and "merge" solution (I think). > > The _best_ solution is, clearly, one which uses a Linux server. > o Of that, at this point, I have no doubt (and neither do you). > > Since I always strive to solve the problem, I am proceeding on a straight > line, where the fact that Linux servers, by necessity, are a gravitational > certainty, where the "best" solutions inexorably gravitate to Linux. > > Hence, the "general" solution doesn't really exist, but a decent > approximation of that general solution is likely thus: > o No full-time server (the db exists in "pieces" scattered about) > o No complex setup - the work is in defining the use model > o SMB server on Windows (because it is ubiquitous) > o SMB client on all other platforms (Linux, Windows, iOS, Android, Mac) You seem to be shying away from linux as a simple solution, but I disagree. You also seem to be thinking that people are averse to using linux, but I disagree there as well. People don't really care what OS is 'underneath' as long as the user interface is satisfactory to them. Witness the popularity of iPhones for cells compared to Macs for general computers. Witness the overwhelming popularity of android for cell with all of those Win users for general computing. Witness the popularity of ChromeOS with chromebooks for students. Those people weren't choosing an operating system; they were choosing a device for a purpose. Whatever OS was underneath was immaterial as long as the device with its interface suited them. Similarly, if you 'tutorial' a project which employs linux in a user-friendly way to accomplish the goal of providing a device for a LAN which does the job you've chosen here in a friendly way for all of the other devices on the LAN, nobody cares what OS is underneath. <snip useful thought processes, but not helpful to my part of the conversation> > As noted, the sticking point is that 'central-server' storage. > I agree. > > For you and me, it's Linux. > For a "general solution", it's usually NOT Linux. I disagree. That is where you go astray; assuming that linux is 'toxic' as a general solution. This generality you are creating is not all that general. I don't think your audience would be averse to a solution with sufficient user friendliness. I don't want to research iOS questions. I don't have or use iPhone. I use desktop OS X under certain conditions occasionally. I saw your Ooma voip; I have an Obi(hai). -- Mike Easter
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-25 20:17 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2fqtj$3a5$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #53068 |
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 11:39:14 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > I don't think windowsware fits for this specific device. But, it > doesn't have to be a singleboard. It could be a singleboard or a spare > old computer lying around the house. Hi Mike, As noted, I have _plenty_ of spare laptops lying around. Most have dead batteries but they'd work as a "desktop". I agree with your observation. Re-purposing one as a "Linux server" would be easy for me. > Your general target audience here is someone who has a LAN and is > wanting to use that LAN similarly to how people use the internet. That > isn't the average user. You bring up a good point in that the "average user" uses "the cloud". That's a viable observation on your part - which I grant. To be fair to your observation, I hadn't thought of it that way. But I do easily grant you that observation since it's logical. I repeat: Your point is valid, that, if I'm aiming for a "general solution", then a "typical user" would simply use "the cloud", and NOT their own private LAN. This factual observation may very well change my weight that I placed on the "complexity" of adding a Linux server for the "general solution". NOTE: One week ago, I didn't realize that the "Windows servers" were "so far behind" the Linux servers - which also changes my weighting. >> 1. I can come up with a solution that only 1/10th the people will use >> 2. Or I can come up with a solution that doesn't require Linux/MPUs. > > I disagree with that analysis and also with that dichotomy. You helped me change the weighting, Mike. I agree that, if we assume we can not satisfy the "general user", then Linux carries the day. o Linux is trivial to set up on a spare laptop o Linux (and a 'spare' laptop) are free (which is a critical component) o Linux "servers" are apparently far easier to set up than Windows servers > You seem to be shying away from linux as a simple solution, but I > disagree. You also seem to be thinking that people are averse to using > linux, but I disagree there as well. Mike, I don't disagree with your points, particularly if I assess a LAN-based solution as being out of the league from the average users. Certainly, if you read the iOS groups, they can't even _comprehend_ a private LAN based solution. It's well beyond their capabilities - which is sad - because Apple and Android users are the classic "general user" I'm trying to satisfy. > Whatever OS was underneath was immaterial as long as the device > with its interface suited them. Again you speak with the voice of reason. For example, one of the main reasons Windows still exists, is that Microsoft Office "runs best" on it (IMHO). > Similarly, if you 'tutorial' a project which employs linux in a > user-friendly way to accomplish the goal of providing a device for a LAN > which does the job you've chosen here in a friendly way for all of the > other devices on the LAN, nobody cares what OS is underneath. If I select a Linux server, everything gets instantly easier for me. > I disagree. That is where you go astray; assuming that linux is 'toxic' > as a general solution. This generality you are creating is not all that > general. I don't think your audience would be averse to a solution with > sufficient user friendliness. You bring up a good point that the "general solution" isn't all that general if the general solution is to NOT use the Internet for calendaring and password database sharing. Once I step away from "general", then the need for Windows disappears. So does the need for freeware disappear. I don't disagree. > I don't want to research iOS questions. I don't have or use iPhone. I > use desktop OS X under certain conditions occasionally. > > I saw your Ooma voip; I have an Obi(hai). I'm not familiar with ObiHai. Googling, it appears to be a $150 "IP Phone" - is that correct? <https://www.amazon.com/Obihai-Gigabit-Phone-Built-Bluetooth/dp/B00TEFGVD2/> Or, is it a "box", like the $150 Ooma Telo is (I got mine for less at Costco): <https://cleverleverage.com/ooma-vs-obi-vs-majic-jack-vs-google-voice/> The main thing I like about Ooma is that you pay once & that's it. o You pay for the hardware, which I got for around $100 years ago o Then you have to pay monthly "tax" of about $5 for the rest of your life
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-25 12:48 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <gb1b0kFs0vgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #53070 |
arlen holder wrote: > For example, one of the main reasons Windows still exists, is that > Microsoft Office "runs best" on it (IMHO). Speaking of MS Office in aol... ... I have a theory (one of two on this observation) about why Manjaro has captured and retained for months the #1 spot for DW hits, which some people try to equate with 'popularity'. DW page hits don't equal popularity; but #1 in hits consistently for quite a while is still #1 in hits consistently. I believe it is because Manjaro provides MS Office online in a way that no other distro does. Mjo of course also provides LO; but I believe that MSOffice online has boosted Mjo's interest to a bevy of people who provide DW page hits. I think mjo is a fine distro, but something 'odd' is giving it a boost over others who might occupy that position. My other theory is that someone is fudging. >> I saw your Ooma voip; I have an Obi(hai). > I'm not familiar with ObiHai. This is my obi https://www.obitalk.com/info/products/obi200 I considered getting a 2 line v., but solved my need for 2 (previous) 'landline numbers' another way, so I only need one 'house phone' line. It serves about 8 old landline phones around the house, 4 cordless, 4 wired. I bought it for $48 and I have no more payment using free Obitalk and GoogleVoice. It is possible something might change in the future. -- Mike Easter
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-26 03:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2gl3h$foh$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #53072 |
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:48:19 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > I believe it is because Manjaro provides MS Office online in a way that > no other distro does. Hi Mike, Long ago, I _thought_ Linux (being free & capable) would _kill_ Windows once Linux got a decent "desktop" GUI; but it didn't (shows you what I know). I _still_ can't comprehend why, other than o Microsoft is basically glued to every new PC sold in the USA o MS Office runs well on it I can't figure out any other good reason that Linux doesn't already have. > This is my obi https://www.obitalk.com/info/products/obi200 It kind of is sort of an Ooma - but using Google Voice instead. The Ooma Telo has its own phone number (or you can port a landline). Since it has "911" and since it's a "phone", the government taxes it. That's the _only_ price you pay (for calls in the USA anyway). I guess because it uses Google Voice you don't have to pay that tax. > I considered getting a 2 line v., but solved my need for 2 (previous) > 'landline numbers' another way, so I only need one 'house phone' line. > It serves about 8 old landline phones around the house, 4 cordless, 4 wired. Just FYI ... with Google Voice & Hangouts (while it lasts), you can turn _any_ mobile device into a speakerphone, even those that don't have SIM cards, or whose SIM cards are only data (I do it all the time). Just do it now - while it lasts... o Google will support only five messaging apps (killing hangouts jepordizes free phone calls & SMS on tablets) <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.mobile.android/viVujCKLsXw/Hx3WMXGrAQAJ> > I bought it for $48 and I have no more payment using free Obitalk and > GoogleVoice. It is possible something might change in the future. As another FYI, there are still free second-line apps for mobile devices.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-25 20:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <slrnq4mshi.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #53068 |
Mike Easter wrote: > arlen holder wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> That's EXACTLY what I seek. >> o Mimic the functionality folks get using the Internet >> o With a "general" solution on our own personal LAN >> >> Certainly there are two fundamental ways of that: >> 1. I can come up with a solution that only 1/10th the people will use >> 2. Or I can come up with a solution that doesn't require Linux/MPUs. > > I disagree with that analysis and also with that dichotomy. Hi Mike, Welcome to the kids' table. Today is fingerpaint and macaroni art day. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-25 21:10 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2gfj9$1mul$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #53071 |
On 1/25/19 3:31 PM, Dan Purgert wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> arlen holder wrote: >>> Hi Mike, >>> That's EXACTLY what I seek. >>> o Mimic the functionality folks get using the Internet >>> o With a "general" solution on our own personal LAN >>> >>> Certainly there are two fundamental ways of that: >>> 1. I can come up with a solution that only 1/10th the people will use >>> 2. Or I can come up with a solution that doesn't require Linux/MPUs. >> >> I disagree with that analysis and also with that dichotomy. > > Hi Mike, > > Welcome to the kids' table. Today is fingerpaint and macaroni art day. > > After the glue is dry, do we spray paint the macaroni? 'Cuz it's not art until it's been spray painted. -- Ken Hart kwhart1@frontier.com
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-26 12:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <slrnq4okhg.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #53093 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ken Hart wrote: > On 1/25/19 3:31 PM, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> arlen holder wrote: >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> That's EXACTLY what I seek. >>>> o Mimic the functionality folks get using the Internet >>>> o With a "general" solution on our own personal LAN >>>> >>>> Certainly there are two fundamental ways of that: >>>> 1. I can come up with a solution that only 1/10th the people will use >>>> 2. Or I can come up with a solution that doesn't require Linux/MPUs. >>> >>> I disagree with that analysis and also with that dichotomy. >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> Welcome to the kids' table. Today is fingerpaint and macaroni art day. >> >> > After the glue is dry, do we spray paint the macaroni? 'Cuz it's not art > until it's been spray painted. > Of course, thats today. The "adults" said we had to let the glue dry overnight. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEBcqaUD8uEzVNxUrujhHd8xJ5ooEFAlxMUjAACgkQjhHd8xJ5 ooEUawf+NJPEWJP8YDvUiRbZeQnKVIgd2moiFtu7eK6RszcwsnZhHQMiXlOAex6N DhYWyg02Tjf7jls7zmppOeQ5hy04PfG84daKItDHRQQsHuBd/2yLCamX1u3PZbaS CulI/OKEQtMlFSNZRf4/DUMhPX8xXF/feeO3/qrriZoOu64svSgHVWo5+BeQtc4d X/FDS8qEWpoqKqdaXWSBjW7t8o66LKZYOb055iU7b4pTSRA9OQVKKmJlRfgj7boU VYOgl9pJPgyiTvVpYn0LiSeh6vHXzLTl8VZaanGztaMXdlC4Z98ncW8ygs7WjqeX X+XPu6Gr9/QBS+oKvs+TAXEc2Y8/Vg== =50K/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | joe <none@domain.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-25 17:09 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2g502$a8h$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #53068 |
On 1/25/2019 1:39 PM, Mike Easter wrote: > arlen holder wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >> >> >>> I understand that AH is partial to Win10 of the devices he is prone to >>> run, but he has sufficient familiarity with linux and awareness of such >>> as singleboard devices running linux that I think both of these projects >>> in recent threads, the caldev business, the keepass and smb business, >>> would do very nicely on a singleboard system running all the time. >> >> The goal, as always, is a "general solution", not just a solution for me. >> Plenty of times I've had solutions where I still strive for the general >> solution. >> >> In general, the general solution needs to be (in order to be 'general'): >> a. Freeware >> b. Windowsware > > I don't think windowsware fits for this specific device. But, it > doesn't have to be a singleboard. It could be a singleboard or a spare > old computer lying around the house. > > Your general target audience here is someone who has a LAN and is > wanting to use that LAN similarly to how people use the internet. That > isn't the average user. > >> >>> He wants a general solution for all those devices; android, ios, win, >>> linux; for which he is trying to mimic the synchronization functions >>> that many achieve on the internet with his own LAN. >> >> Hi Mike, >> That's EXACTLY what I seek. >> o Mimic the functionality folks get using the Internet >> o With a "general" solution on our own personal LAN >> That should point you in the right direction. The internet based solution is a client-server arrangement. Basically you want to move the server onsite; to your local LAN. The key thing, to mimic the functionality, is then to provide that server with no operational differences seen on the client machines other than to log into the local server. For the server, you have several options. 1) A Linux PC with the appropriate services running 2) A microcontroller/board running a server with the appropriate services running 3) A NAS box with the appropriate services running 4) USB storage plugged into a router that provides the needed services. 1 & 2 are more work to set up as you need to find the SW to do everything. 4 may not be feasible depending upon what the router supports 3 is likely more expensive, but provides a better packaged (physically) solution. The effort is in determining what it takes to get the desired services running on the chosen server. By taking the client-server approach that emulates cloud based solutions, the use model seen by the user is consistent with cloud based solutions and probably compatible with cloud based solutions. It is also likely that the server can provide additional functionality beneficial to the user. (backups, music streaming, etc.) There does not need to one solution for all. Each of the above 4 possibilities could meet a person's needs. Let that person choose what they want to do. >> Certainly there are two fundamental ways of that: >> 1. I can come up with a solution that only 1/10th the people will use >> 2. Or I can come up with a solution that doesn't require Linux/MPUs. > > I disagree with that analysis and also with that dichotomy. > I also disagree. >> As always, these two things make everything harder: >> A. A "general" solution (often that means free & available) >> B. A cross-platform solution (often the sticking point is iOS) >> >>> I think he should >>> choose a linux strategy which is so popular on that web for his lan; not >>> employ his Win10 system/s simply because he is using them the majority >>> of the time. >> >> Hi Mike, >> I fully _agree_ with you that if all I wanted was 'a good solution', then >> it would be a Linux server (of any sort), of which I can make plenty. >> >> I must repeat that I did NOT realize this was the answer until I found >> out >> that servers (of various types) are _still_ not really useful, on >> Windows. >> >> That was my revelation in this thread - for which I appreciate your >> advice. >> o I repeat: It was unknown to me how far behind Windows servers were. >> >> Given how far behind Linux Windows servers appear to be, the "general" >> solution can _only_ be a Windows "copy" and "merge" solution (I think). >> That, however does not mimic the cloud based solutions. This is where you solution goes from being general to something only workable for you. >> The _best_ solution is, clearly, one which uses a Linux server. >> o Of that, at this point, I have no doubt (and neither do you). >> >> Since I always strive to solve the problem, I am proceeding on a straight >> line, where the fact that Linux servers, by necessity, are a >> gravitational >> certainty, where the "best" solutions inexorably gravitate to Linux. >> >> Hence, the "general" solution doesn't really exist, but a decent >> approximation of that general solution is likely thus: >> o No full-time server (the db exists in "pieces" scattered about) >> o No complex setup - the work is in defining the use model Setup is done once. Use of the solution is done daily. You should think more in terms of the effort to use. If setup is a big concern, then the NAS box solution may best as some provide lots of functionality via server plugins. >> o SMB server on Windows (because it is ubiquitous) >> o SMB client on all other platforms (Linux, Windows, iOS, Android, Mac) > > You seem to be shying away from linux as a simple solution, but I > disagree. You also seem to be thinking that people are averse to using > linux, but I disagree there as well. > > People don't really care what OS is 'underneath' as long as the user > interface is satisfactory to them. Witness the popularity of iPhones > for cells compared to Macs for general computers. Witness the > overwhelming popularity of android for cell with all of those Win users > for general computing. Witness the popularity of ChromeOS with > chromebooks for students. Those people weren't choosing an operating > system; they were choosing a device for a purpose. Whatever OS was > underneath was immaterial as long as the device with its interface > suited them. > > Similarly, if you 'tutorial' a project which employs linux in a > user-friendly way to accomplish the goal of providing a device for a LAN > which does the job you've chosen here in a friendly way for all of the > other devices on the LAN, nobody cares what OS is underneath. > > <snip useful thought processes, but not helpful to my part of the > conversation> > >> As noted, the sticking point is that 'central-server' storage. >> I agree. >> >> For you and me, it's Linux. >> For a "general solution", it's usually NOT Linux. > > I disagree. That is where you go astray; assuming that linux is 'toxic' > as a general solution. This generality you are creating is not all that > general. I don't think your audience would be averse to a solution with > sufficient user friendliness. > > I don't want to research iOS questions. I don't have or use iPhone. I > use desktop OS X under certain conditions occasionally. > > I saw your Ooma voip; I have an Obi(hai). >
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-26 07:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2h0mp$250$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #53084 |
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:09:57 -0600, joe wrote:
> That should point you in the right direction. The internet based
> solution is a client-server arrangement. Basically you want to move the
> server onsite; to your local LAN.
Hi "joe",
Thank you very much for your astute and purposefully helpful advice.
You and I go way back (if you're the same as on the iOS ngs); so I must
openly admit it was with great dread that I opened this post,
where, surprisingly, I see you acted very much like an adult; hence I will
mirror your perceived intent by happily reflecting back what you radiate.
I _agree_ with you (and with Mike Easter), that the goal was originally
(and perhaps should remain) to replicate both the Internet-based CalDAV
server mechanism, on a private LAN, and to replicate a password-based
server mechanism on the private LAN.
That replication of the Internet-based CalDAV server & password server on
the private LAN mechanism eliminates many privacy issues, and only adds a
slight inconvenience depending on how many appointments & passwords are
modified when the user is off the private LAN.
In short, I agree that the best mechanism overall is very likely to be to
figure out the best way to mimic the Internet server on the private LAN.
> The key thing, to mimic the functionality, is then to provide that
> server with no operational differences seen on the client machines other
> than to log into the local server.
I agree, where I think your point is that the "operational differences"
should be completely transparent to the app.
The good news is that some of the apps I tested (particularly those that
interfaced directly to CalDAV and WebDAV servers) had settings which
allowed custom server information to be set, as opposed to a dedicated
button for commercial CalDAV servers such as "iCloud" or "Google" or
"Facebook" servers (there seemed to be roughly about a half dozen).
In short, basically, the app should be able to have "custom settings" to
simply *point* to the private-LAN server - and the rest should work as if
it had pointed to a commercial Internet-based server.
I agree.
> For the server, you have several options.
> 1) A Linux PC with the appropriate services running
> 2) A microcontroller/board running a server with the appropriate services running
> 3) A NAS box with the appropriate services running
> 4) USB storage plugged into a router that provides the needed services.
This is an insightful listing, where nobody, to date, has suggested the
latter two options, as far as I recall sans doublechecking all the posts.
> 1 & 2 are more work to set up as you need to find the SW to do everything.
I wouldn't necessarily bother with #2 simply because #1 is easy given I
have a few spare (dead-battery) laptops lying about.
> 4 may not be feasible depending upon what the router supports]
Yup. I haven't checked mine for this capability yet as it's out of my
technical league at the moment.
> 3 is likely more expensive, but provides a better packaged (physically)
> solution.
I'm not really sure what this approach entails.
> The effort is in determining what it takes to get the desired services
> running on the chosen server.
I think there are, fundamentally, two options, which are quite different:
A. A server (where Linux turns out to be de-rigueur)
B. A "master file" or a "set of snippet files".
Currently, my setup is the latter; but you and Mike convincingly argue the
former, where I can't disagree that it's the better way once we decide that
the "general solution" may not apply here (so Linux is back on the table
simply because Windows fell off the table during the discussions).
> By taking the client-server approach that emulates cloud based
> solutions, the use model seen by the user is consistent with cloud based
> solutions and probably compatible with cloud based solutions.
Yes. We agree.
You bring up a good point, which I'm sure Mike also realized, which is that
the "best" general-purpose solution entails "mimicking" the cloud-based
server-based application, only sans the cloud.
I don't disagree.
The only caveat that this brings up is that the _application_ must be able
to input private credentials, where I definitely saw that in _some_ of the
apps I had tested earlier this week (for WebDAV) and last week (for
CalDAV).
> It is also likely that the server can provide additional functionality
> beneficial to the user. (backups, music streaming, etc.)
Agreed.
Once there is a full-time server on the private LAN, uses will be found!
o A calendar manager
o A password manager
o A file manager
o A mail server
etc.
> There does not need to one solution for all. Each of the above 4
> possibilities could meet a person's needs. Let that person choose what
> they want to do.
I think combining the astute helpful advice of both Mike and you makes
sense, where that advice, essentially, can be said to boil down to:
a. There may not be a "general solution" for a private LAN simply
due to the Internet-based solutions that already abound.
b. There certainly is not a "general Windows" solution that utilizes
servers (but a general Windows solution exists for "file merges")
c. The server solution is likely the best approach, where the private
server mimics the action of the Internet servers, and, out of necessity,
that server will most likely be easiest done on Linux (although other
solutions exist, as you noted).
> I also disagree.
Both Mike and you have presented logical arguments, which, in addition to
my belated realization of the lack of ready-made Windows-based private
server solutions, changes my mind on the overall approach.
My current plan is to:
A. Finish the private-LAN solution I'm almost done with, and then,
B. Strongly consider setting up a Linux-based server on the private LAN.
> That, however does not mimic the cloud based solutions. This is where
> you solution goes from being general to something only workable for you.
Agreed.
Out of concern for simplicity, and to always aim for success,
I will continue on my modified plan as described above.
A. Finish what I started (essentially a "file merge" system)
B. Strongly consider setting up a full-time Linux server
> Setup is done once. Use of the solution is done daily. You should think
> more in terms of the effort to use. If setup is a big concern, then the
> NAS box solution may best as some provide lots of functionality via
> server plugins.
I agree. I think there is a "workaround" and a "solution".
a. Workaround: Complete the existing file-merge tests (almost done)
b. Solution: Set up a linux server on the LAN (caldav, webdav, passwd)
Thank you very much for your astute and purposefully helpful advice.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-26 09:14 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <gb3iqvFceduU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #53101 |
arlen holder wrote: > joe wrote: >> 4) USB storage plugged into a router that provides the needed services. > This is an insightful listing, where nobody, to date, has suggested the > latter two options, as far as I recall sans doublechecking all the posts. > >> 1 & 2 are more work to set up as you need to find the SW to do everything. > I wouldn't necessarily bother with #2 simply because #1 is easy given I > have a few spare (dead-battery) laptops lying about. > >> 4 may not be feasible depending upon what the router supports] > Yup. I haven't checked mine for this capability yet as it's out of my > technical league at the moment. > I'm sure he means if the router has a USB port and some internal guidance to configuring for it. I recently acquired a gigabit router on sale, a Linksys EA3500 wearing a Cisco badge which has a USB port and an internal web page for configuring it. All the technical expertise you need in the first place is to look at the outside of the router and see if it has a USB along with its ethernet and power ports. -- Mike Easter
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-27 01:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2j1ev$beb$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #53128 |
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:14:06 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > All the technical expertise you need in the first place is to look at > the outside of the router and see if it has a USB along with its > ethernet and power ports. Hi Mike, Thanks for being purposefully helpful. I just checked my old "n" router (I should buy an "ac" some day). [Mostly I hate messing with setup so it just gathers dust for years.] It's a circa 2012 WNDR3400v2: <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9561377ap06.jpg> And it does have a USB port (which I've never used): <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9258469ap07.jpg> The owners manual has a chapter 5 on "USB Storage": <http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/WNDR3400V2/WNDR3400v2_UM_23JAN2013.pdf> It looks like it's just for a "usb storage drive".
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| From | joe <none@domain.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-26 20:24 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2j4p5$1fdo$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #53172 |
On 1/26/2019 7:28 PM, arlen holder wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:14:06 -0800, Mike Easter wrote: > >> All the technical expertise you need in the first place is to look at >> the outside of the router and see if it has a USB along with its >> ethernet and power ports. > > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for being purposefully helpful. > > I just checked my old "n" router (I should buy an "ac" some day). > [Mostly I hate messing with setup so it just gathers dust for years.] > > It's a circa 2012 WNDR3400v2: > <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9561377ap06.jpg> > > And it does have a USB port (which I've never used): > <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9258469ap07.jpg> > > The owners manual has a chapter 5 on "USB Storage": > <http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/WNDR3400V2/WNDR3400v2_UM_23JAN2013.pdf> > > It looks like it's just for a "usb storage drive". That would mean your router can provide the smb server to host the files you want to share. No need to keep the Windows PC on 24/7. >
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| From | arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-27 06:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <q2jj53$9sp$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #53174 |
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:24:42 -0600, joe wrote: > That would mean your router can provide the smb server to host the files > you want to share. No need to keep the Windows PC on 24/7. Hi joe, Thanks for that purposefully helpful advice. The goal is a general solution that works for everyone (with the caveat that Mike brought up which is that most people will use the Internet). That means that most people will need to have this USB slot on their router, where, I assume it's pretty common - so it might fit the problem set. I plugged in a spare USB stick into that router slot, & started testing it. <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9480745ap08.jpg> The address appears to be: \\readyshare\USB_Storage The SMBv2/v3 Windows 10 Network Neighborhood wouldn't recognize: \\readyshare\USB_Storage But the SMBv1/v2/v3 Windows 10 networking recognized it just fine. This mount command failed on the Windows 10 SMBv2/v3 machine: net use X: \\readshare\USB_Storage Which reported: System error 384 has occurred. You can't connect to the file share because it's not secure. This share requires the obsolete SMB1 protocol, which is unsafe and could expose your system to attack. Your system requires SMB2 or higher. For more info on resolving this issue, see: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=852747 The "net use" command worked fine on the Windows 10 SMBv1/v2/v3 box. I think that pretty much confirms the router is using the "SMBv1" protocol. (It doesn't seem to say what the SMB protocol is in the router user guide.) In the "advanced" section of the router are more connection URIs: Network/Device Name = readyshare Workgroup = Workgroup Enabled: http://readyshare.routerlogin.net/shares (port 80) Disabled: https://MYINTERNETIPADDRESS/shares (port 443) Disabled: ftp://MYINTERNETIPADDRESS/shares (port 21) For my tests, I enabled everything above & hit the "apply" button. Testing it with a web browser, this URL worked: http://readyshare.routerlogin.net/shares/USB_Storage/ On my phone, I turned on DATA and I turned off WiFi & tested my address: http://whatismyipaddress.com (which reported an outside IP address) And then tested this URL (where that's my external IP address in that URL): https://MYINTERNETIPADDRESS/shares/USB_Storage/ It worked - which means that the USB stick is accessible to the net. Too bad the router doesn't support WebDAV or CalDAV (I wonder if any do?). The main viable option seems to be to purchase an "ac" router that has "smbv2" support, but that's not a "general solution" either (although it may be common for all I know as I only research routers when I'm in the market for one).
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-27 09:09 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <gb66uuFu2d1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #53179 |
arlen holder wrote: > > The SMBv2/v3 Windows 10 Network Neighborhood wouldn't recognize: > \\readyshare\USB_Storage > But the SMBv1/v2/v3 Windows 10 networking recognized it just fine. This whole SMB 1/2 (and 3) business that is 'messing' with you is a MS proprietary issue (largely). If you read some overview of the whole SMB (and Active Directory) story, which is pretty old, in such as the wp articles you can appreciate that as a proprietary interface built on top of another proprietary interface and then modified with higher and higher proprietary versions for each MS release starting with DOS thru' Win3.1 and on to Vista, blah blah Win 10 etc. > And then tested this URL (where that's my external IP address in that URL): > https://MYINTERNETIPADDRESS/shares/USB_Storage/ > It worked - which means that the USB stick is accessible to the net. Well, that is a useful test for 'fixing' your system so that it is NOT accessible to the 'net' as in internet at large. (I believe) you don't want your 'stuff' that is behind your router and on your LAN accessible to the internet at large. That is, you want your sharing to be restricted to what/who is on your LAN; your phone's access to the shared USB should be via its wireless on your LAN, not via the cellular connectivity to the internet route. To the best of my knowledge, the embedded OS that Netgear uses for its routers is a modified linux NGOS, so its 'protocol' for the USB is more likely not some v. of MS's SMB series, but something that MS doesn't 'recognize' as being a higher level of SMB so it calls it SMB 1 because the Win doesn't know any better. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-27 09:19 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <gb67h5Fu68fU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #53187 |
Mike Easter wrote: > That is, you want your sharing to be restricted to what/who is on your > LAN; your phone's access to the shared USB should be via its wireless on > your LAN, not via the cellular connectivity to the internet route. Rethinking this a bit... ... if it WERE desirable for your phone to be able to access the USB in your router via the cellular net and internet, then it would also be necessary to include a security feature such as pw. You have another layer of complexity if your plan is to have your LAN give access to the internet at large for a shared directory. My earlier assumption was that this sharing business was exclusively to LAN users, not internet users. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-27 17:47 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: AH's LAN (was) Re: Have You Been Pwned? <snip> |
| Message-ID | <slrnq4rrlq.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #53187 |
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Mike Easter wrote:
> arlen holder wrote:
>>[...]
>> And then tested this URL (where that's my external IP address in that URL):
>> https://MYINTERNETIPADDRESS/shares/USB_Storage/
>> It worked - which means that the USB stick is accessible to the net.
>
> Well, that is a useful test for 'fixing' your system so that it is NOT
> accessible to the 'net' as in internet at large. (I believe) you don't
> want your 'stuff' that is behind your router and on your LAN accessible
> to the internet at large.
If he tested this from a device on his LAN, the result is more likely a
false positive, than an indication he's opened a SMB share to the
internet.
On many routers, when you try hitting _any_ of their addresses (from
the LAN), they will respond to the request as if it was sent to the LAN
interface.
The only conclusive test would be using a device connected to a
different network (e.g. 3g/4g cell service, starbucks, whatever).
> [...]
> To the best of my knowledge, the embedded OS that Netgear uses for its
> routers is a modified linux NGOS, so its 'protocol' for the USB is more
> likely not some v. of MS's SMB series, but something that MS doesn't
> 'recognize' as being a higher level of SMB so it calls it SMB 1 because
> the Win doesn't know any better.
Linux samba can identify as 2.x, and possibly even 3. It's more likely
* The device simply doesnt support better (and given 802.11n, highly
likely)
* The device, if it supports higher versions of SMB, is configured for
SMBv1 only.
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