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| Started by | Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> |
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| First post | 2018-10-11 19:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2018-10-19 09:14 +0200 |
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Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2018-10-11 19:12 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan jbm <not@home.ok> - 2018-10-12 23:19 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-12 22:28 +0000
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-12 18:40 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-12 20:38 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-12 21:32 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:08 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:08 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 10:25 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:55 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 11:28 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 11:53 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 12:29 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-13 17:34 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 14:04 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-14 00:25 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-10-14 23:01 +0000
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-15 05:54 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 08:20 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-15 11:22 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 12:09 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-15 11:41 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Gutless Coward" <gutless.coward@clintonemail.com> - 2018-10-16 14:51 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-16 10:17 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 15:11 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 16:17 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-14 00:26 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 08:50 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-14 09:24 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 22:49 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-14 22:50 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-14 18:06 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-15 00:10 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-13 05:57 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-13 00:05 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-13 06:19 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 09:57 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 07:52 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 09:54 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-13 13:41 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 10:24 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-14 09:33 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 22:33 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 07:01 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-15 08:53 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 18:47 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-16 11:55 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-16 19:51 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-15 18:53 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 19:38 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-15 19:48 +0000
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 22:40 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-16 02:50 +0000
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-16 10:04 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldi@notaserver.com> - 2018-10-16 09:53 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-16 11:25 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-16 20:32 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-16 20:21 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-10-17 00:42 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-17 10:56 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-16 13:04 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-16 20:33 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-16 16:02 +0000
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-17 07:22 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2018-10-17 10:20 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-18 23:25 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-18 23:44 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-10-18 17:48 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-19 06:55 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-19 08:58 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-10-19 08:24 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-19 10:42 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-19 12:43 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-22 00:57 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-10-22 15:38 +1300
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-22 08:19 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-23 14:36 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-27 13:31 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-27 13:20 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-28 02:19 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-28 07:52 +0000
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-29 07:41 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-27 12:51 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-10-23 14:14 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-27 14:10 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-27 13:48 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-27 22:56 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-27 23:14 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2018-10-19 14:02 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-20 12:00 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 18:34 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan tom <tom@0.0.0.0> - 2019-03-09 15:25 -0800
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 13:24 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-21 16:30 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 13:35 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-12-10 21:56 +1100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-19 08:55 -0400
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-18 13:45 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-19 05:15 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-19 22:51 -0500
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 14:36 +0200
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-21 16:33 +0100
Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-19 09:14 +0200
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-14 10:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e1e0eeca46007e3cdb7e6790f486976c@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #51278 |
In article <ppte9c$b73$1@news.mixmin.net> Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> wrote: > > SilverSlimer laid this down on his screen : > > On 2018-10-11 7:12 p.m., Anonymous wrote: > >> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 > >> > >> > >> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is > >> what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in > >> the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need > >> the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. > >> > >> https://github.com/inwtx/SSH-With-VPS > > > > Luckily for the United States, they have someone in power who won't > > tolerate an all-out attack on free speech like the one already > > implemented in the United Kingdom and proposed for the rest of the > > European Union. In Britain, attacking someone with acid is not likely > > to get you arrested but calling someone by their male name before > > they chopped their balls off to become a "woman," well that's just > > unforgivable! > > <https://www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_show_october_11_2018> . The > > continued benefits of leftism! > > > > Rest in peace, Western Europe. Hard to believe that the countries > > once behind the Iron Curtain are now the ones most willing to defend > > liberty. > > I saw a cop show in England a while back where a woman was talking to > a cop. She made some kind of remark about a guy being arab and the cop > warned her that she could be arrested for her disparaging remark. > > So here England, take this: NIGGERS, SPIC, JAP, WAP, SAND NIGGER, > BROWNIE, KIKE, SLANT EYES, DRUNKEN INDIANS, FAGS, COCK SUCKERS, GOOKS, > WHORES, SLUTS Please include obama nigger.
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-14 09:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51193 |
On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 > > > Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. > > https://github.com/inwtx/SSH-With-VPS > Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it affects everyone.
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-14 22:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <63383209b3ac40ce53c00547f4729995@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #51287 |
In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > > On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: > > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 > > > > > > Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. > > > > https://github.com/inwtx/SSH-With-VPS > > > > Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target > Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for > EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it > affects everyone. I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. GDPR is just so much asswipe.
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-15 07:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51292 |
On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: >> >> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: >>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 >>> >>> >>> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. >>> >> >> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target >> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for >> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it >> affects everyone. > > I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. > > GDPR is just so much asswipe. Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR.
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-15 08:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <29a7e508b054472a7091002146e1a1df@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #51303 |
In article <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > > On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> > > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > >> > >> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: > >>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 > >>> > >>> > >>> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. > >>> > >> > >> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target > >> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for > >> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it > >> affects everyone. > > > > I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. > > > > GDPR is just so much asswipe. > > Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will > are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies > who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR. Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United States. Got it. Jurisdiction and standing. See you in court.
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-15 18:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g2jul9F8lcqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51304 |
On 10/15/18 8:53 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > In article <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net> > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: >> >> On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: >>> In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> >>> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: >>>>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target >>>> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for >>>> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it >>>> affects everyone. >>> >>> I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. >>> >>> GDPR is just so much asswipe. >> >> Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will >> are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies >> who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR. > > Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce > failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United > States. > > Got it. > > Jurisdiction and standing. > > See you in court. You would end up in court and be convicted to pay the heavy penalties to failing the follow GDPR, as this is something the US government (lead by the illegal immigrants son you voted for) and EU has agreed on, it's not a single sided treaty but this allows Act to enforced within EU. Sure you don't care about your privacy as you are member in NRA and then your M60 is the most important, you use it for everything warming your bed, hunt dear with it and you can even use it as a fishing rod when you have tired on shooting on the fish. -- //Aho
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 11:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <b7cb85b31e50cfcbf3239ec99fa3e1f1@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #51324 |
In article <g2jul9F8lcqU1@mid.individual.net> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > > On 10/15/18 8:53 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > In article <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net> > > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > >> > >> On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > >>> In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> > >>> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: > >>>>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target > >>>> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for > >>>> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it > >>>> affects everyone. > >>> > >>> I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. > >>> > >>> GDPR is just so much asswipe. > >> > >> Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will > >> are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies > >> who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR. > > > > Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce > > failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United > > States. > > > > Got it. > > > > Jurisdiction and standing. > > > > See you in court. > > You would end up in court and be convicted to pay the heavy penalties to > failing the follow GDPR, as this is something the US government (lead by > the illegal immigrants son you voted for) and EU has agreed on, it's not > a single sided treaty but this allows Act to enforced within EU. Nope. It would wind up in court of law and a judge or jury would determine if we throw United States sovereignty out the window for bozos who can't and won't even police their own countries. > Sure you don't care about your privacy as you are member in NRA and then > your M60 is the most important, you use it for everything warming your > bed, hunt dear with it and you can even use it as a fishing rod when you > have tired on shooting on the fish. Yeah well when the great EU manages to get their unsolved crime rates down from 89-93%, I'll worry about the fish. That's absolutely stunning that the supposedly superior EU has an average 11% success rate for solving crimes. Those nanny cams stuck up every where sure did a lot of good... As an EMC engineer I'm grateful for the amount of money you spend on storage every year.
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 19:51 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g2mmpoFpsb9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51335 |
On 10/16/18 11:55 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > In article "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: >> You would end up in court and be convicted to pay the heavy penalties to >> failing the follow GDPR, as this is something the US government (lead by >> the illegal immigrants son you voted for) and EU has agreed on, it's not >> a single sided treaty but this allows Act to enforced within EU. > > Nope. It would wind up in court of law and a judge or jury > would determine if we throw United States sovereignty out the > window for bozos who can't and won't even police their own > countries. Sorry bot you are wrong, bilateral agreement makes violation of GDPR in US as much of a crime as you would have done it in EU, this why The Act also applies in EU too. If you don't like this kind of agreements, then you have to see to that Trump will not be re-elected. >> Sure you don't care about your privacy as you are member in NRA and then >> your M60 is the most important, you use it for everything warming your >> bed, hunt dear with it and you can even use it as a fishing rod when you >> have tired on shooting on the fish. > > Yeah well when the great EU manages to get their unsolved crime > rates down from 89-93%, I'll worry about the fish. See you are reading fake news again, let see what you fish up out of Breitbart News, maybe that coloured people ain't humans? > That's absolutely stunning that the supposedly superior EU has > an average 11% success rate for solving crimes. Success rate of my local police last year was 89%, most of the crimes was solved within 3 days. > Those nanny cams stuck up every where sure did a lot of good... > As an EMC engineer I'm grateful for the amount of money you > spend on storage every year. No cameras more than at the highway to keep track of speeders. Don't forget that you have in average 5 mass shootings a week, way more than whole EU in a year. -- //Aho
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-15 18:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4643d4626e9bae6a0cbc8970d4d6acf4@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #51304 |
In article <29a7e508b054472a7091002146e1a1df@dizum.com> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > > In article <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net> > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > > > > On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > > In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> > > > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: > > >>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. > > >>> > > >> > > >> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target > > >> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for > > >> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it > > >> affects everyone. > > > > > > I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. > > > > > > GDPR is just so much asswipe. > > > > Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will > > are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies > > who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR. > > Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce > failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United > States. > > Got it. > > Jurisdiction and standing. > > See you in court. GDPR can be enforced in the EU for any company doing business there. Outside, as a PP stated, it's just so much nanny state buttwipe. On a side note. Besides google, facebook, twitter and the media, it's the people inside the EU who are the problem. They post anything and everything on social media, then expect privacy. Talk about sheeple.
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-15 19:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g2k1kfF98epU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51325 |
On 10/15/18 6:53 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > In article <29a7e508b054472a7091002146e1a1df@dizum.com> > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: >> >> In article <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net> >> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: >>>> In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> >>>> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: >>>>>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target >>>>> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for >>>>> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it >>>>> affects everyone. >>>> >>>> I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. >>>> >>>> GDPR is just so much asswipe. >>> >>> Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will >>> are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies >>> who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR. >> >> Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce >> failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United >> States. >> >> Got it. >> >> Jurisdiction and standing. >> >> See you in court. > > GDPR can be enforced in the EU for any company doing business > there. Outside, as a PP stated, it's just so much nanny state > buttwipe. I guess you would be surprised to sitting in federal jail in US for not following GDPR. > On a side note. Besides google, facebook, twitter and the > media, it's the people inside the EU who are the problem. They > post anything and everything on social media, then expect > privacy. Talk about sheeple. Not everything you post on the net is meant to be shared, what about your credit card PAN would you like it end used to send money to ISIS? What about your Social Security Number would end up at a scammer who then will be doing things and claim it's you? Sure some people post their address on social media sharing it with the whole world, but you may not be as happy if your address was aviable to everyone on the net. As most companies uses the data they can harvest, they know a lot about you, not just what you have provided to them, but also what streams you read, which links you click and a lot more, selling this information to third parties makes them earn loads of money so that third parties can target you in the same way as they did during the 2016 election. -- //Aho
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| From | shemp14@outlook.com |
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| Date | 2018-10-15 19:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <w7udnV_0aplkc1nGnZ2dnUU7-f_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #51326 |
The only way GPDR would be enforced in the USA is if the country fell and was divived up like Eurpoe was after every war. GPDR will be enforced by the EU on firms which do not comply if the firms want to continue to operate in the EU. Thanks but no thanks. PLONK!
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-15 22:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g2kc98Fbe3pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51328 |
On 10/15/18 9:48 PM, shemp14@outlook.com wrote: > The only way GPDR would be enforced in the USA is if the country fell and > was divived up like Eurpoe was after every war. GPDR will be enforced by the > EU on firms which do not comply if the firms want to continue to operate in > the EU. Thanks but no thanks. PLONK! So you mean that US has been divided into many small countries and a looser union has been created under the leadership of fake-news trump?
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| From | shemp14@outlook.com |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 02:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qf6dnYRYvsl2zFjGnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #51329 |
No, we're not that stupid. Look up US History and "representative democracy" before commenting.
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| From | Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 10:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <KdmxD.189585$MN2.1037@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #51333 |
On 2018-10-15 22:50, shemp14@outlook.com wrote: > No, we're not that stupid. Look up US History and "representative democracy" > before commenting. > "Representative democracy" sounds good, until you ask the question "Who is being represented?" The US constitution was written by and for property owners. It took a lot of political argy-bargy and infighting, and a war, to extend voting rights to ordinary folk, ex-slaves, and women. The notion that the Founders respected democracy as we understand nowadays is simply wrong. In fact, they were afraid of "mob rule", and tried to frame the Constitution to prevent it. It's worked pretty well, but 200+ years of political and legal wrangling, plus gaming the system, have revealed some of its flaws. I doubt that a perfect Constitution is possible. What is possible is amending and interpreting it so that the the country can come closer to achieving the aspirations announced in the Declaration of Independence. I think it's those aspirations that have driven a lot of political progress. Best, -- Wolf K kirkwood40.blogspot.com Complexity is not a condition to be tamed, but a lesson to be learned. (James Bridley, 2018)
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| From | "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldi@notaserver.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 09:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <a1f855ff-105e-5ee2-7bac-30709666765d@invalid.com> |
| In reply to | #51338 |
On 10/16/18 9:04 AM, Wolf K wrote: ... > I doubt that a perfect Constitution is possible. What is possible is > amending and interpreting it so that the the country can come closer to > achieving the aspirations announced in the Declaration of Independence. > I think it's those aspirations that have driven a lot of political > progress. > > Best, +1 (minus any emanations and penumbras) Rinaldi -- "Have you lived here all your life?" "Oh, twice that long."
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 11:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e43e5ceac74efcd22ae2af93c70d56a2@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #51326 |
In article <g2k1kfF98epU1@mid.individual.net> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > > On 10/15/18 6:53 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > In article <29a7e508b054472a7091002146e1a1df@dizum.com> > > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > >> > >> In article <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net> > >> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > >>>> In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net> > >>>> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote: > >>>>>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target > >>>>> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for > >>>>> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it > >>>>> affects everyone. > >>>> > >>>> I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA. > >>>> > >>>> GDPR is just so much asswipe. > >>> > >>> Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will > >>> are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies > >>> who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR. > >> > >> Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce > >> failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United > >> States. > >> > >> Got it. > >> > >> Jurisdiction and standing. > >> > >> See you in court. > > > > GDPR can be enforced in the EU for any company doing business > > there. Outside, as a PP stated, it's just so much nanny state > > buttwipe. > > I guess you would be surprised to sitting in federal jail in US for not > following GDPR. Never happen. > > On a side note. Besides google, facebook, twitter and the > > media, it's the people inside the EU who are the problem. They > > post anything and everything on social media, then expect > > privacy. Talk about sheeple. > > Not everything you post on the net is meant to be shared, what about > your credit card PAN would you like it end used to send money to ISIS? > What about your Social Security Number would end up at a scammer who > then will be doing things and claim it's you? I don't use credit cards. > Sure some people post their address on social media sharing it with the > whole world, but you may not be as happy if your address was aviable to > everyone on the net. Their address isn't the primary problem. It's their ugly ignorant tatted up faces, drug use, GPS look where I am, and generally all around stupid behavior. We don't hire stupid people where I work. > As most companies uses the data they can harvest, they know a lot about > you, not just what you have provided to them, but also what streams you > read, which links you click and a lot more, selling this information to > third parties makes them earn loads of money so that third parties can > target you in the same way as they did during the 2016 election. You'd be wrong. I've managed to stay invisible on the Internet since day one and that's not going to change now. No Facebook, no google, no twitter, no myspace, no nothing.
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 20:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g2mp59Fqau9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51334 |
On 10/16/18 11:25 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > In article "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: >> Sure some people post their address on social media sharing it with the >> whole world, but you may not be as happy if your address was aviable to >> everyone on the net. > > We don't hire stupid people where I work. Not sure I can fully agree on that >> As most companies uses the data they can harvest, they know a lot about >> you, not just what you have provided to them, but also what streams you >> read, which links you click and a lot more, selling this information to >> third parties makes them earn loads of money so that third parties can >> target you in the same way as they did during the 2016 election. > > You'd be wrong. I've managed to stay invisible on the Internet > since day one and that's not going to change now. > > No Facebook, no google, no twitter, no myspace, no nothing. If you think avoiding social media makes you invisible, you are so wrong.
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| From | Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-16 20:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <BuSdnS3Ax70OE1vGnZ2dnUU7-blj4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #51343 |
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:32:09 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote: > On 10/16/18 11:25 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: >> In article "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote: > >>> Sure some people post their address on social media sharing it with the >>> whole world, but you may not be as happy if your address was aviable to >>> everyone on the net. >> >> We don't hire stupid people where I work. > > Not sure I can fully agree on that > >>> As most companies uses the data they can harvest, they know a lot about >>> you, not just what you have provided to them, but also what streams you >>> read, which links you click and a lot more, selling this information to >>> third parties makes them earn loads of money so that third parties can >>> target you in the same way as they did during the 2016 election. >> >> You'd be wrong. I've managed to stay invisible on the Internet >> since day one and that's not going to change now. >> >> No Facebook, no google, no twitter, no myspace, no nothing. > > If you think avoiding social media makes you invisible, you are so wrong. I have no interest in your argument with Normen but I would like to make a comment about social media. Of course, staying off social media does not in itself make you invisible, however, doing so is a major step in the right direction. I have never had a social media account of any type in my life and I get by just fine without it. -- <Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453 The cow died so I don't need your bull!
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-17 00:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <20181017004241.0014ac66@WizardsTower> |
| In reply to | #51345 |
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:21:23 -0500 Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> wrote: > Of course, staying > off social media does not in itself make you invisible, however, > doing so is a major step in the right direction. I have never > had a social media account of any type in my life and I get by > just fine without it. On the other end of the spectrum my life is an open book. I don't hide who I am and never have. Although I do use the CRW nym here I have a well known and posted several times to Usenet identity IRL and most of my friends and many acquaintances from multiple places know it well. I DO have social media accounts (3) and use Google services regularly. I have recently defended my Cybe R. Wizard persona to Facebook and won the right to be who I am in cyberspace (or, as I like to call it, Cybe R.'s space). Still, no one is interested in tracking me or my data. Why? Because I do not buy nor bank online. Ever. I don't even get targeted ads on Facebook. Cybe R. Wizard -- You know you are "there" when you are known by your first name, and are recognized. Lemmie see, there is Madonna, and Linus, and ..... help me out here! Bill ? ;-) Anon Netuser
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| From | Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-17 10:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <yK-dnaTLRexYxlrGnZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #51347 |
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 00:42:41 -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:21:23 -0500 > Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Of course, staying >> off social media does not in itself make you invisible, however, >> doing so is a major step in the right direction. I have never >> had a social media account of any type in my life and I get by >> just fine without it. > > On the other end of the spectrum my life is an open book. I don't hide > who I am and never have. Although I do use the CRW nym here I have a > well known and posted several times to Usenet identity IRL and most of > my friends and many acquaintances from multiple places know it well. I > DO have social media accounts (3) and use Google services regularly. I > have recently defended my Cybe R. Wizard persona to Facebook and won the > right to be who I am in cyberspace (or, as I like to call it, Cybe R.'s > space). Although privacy/security is one of the reasons I stay away from social media, it is not the main reason. I simply don't like it. In particular I don't like the way it dehumanizes people. I prefer human contact. Would you believe I have never sent a text message in my life and I don't receive them either? That feature is turned off in my cell account settings. I haven't made a big secret about who I am either. If you and others have been paying attention, you know my name and the state and general area where I live. You also know I am a ham radio operator. I posted my call sign once, although it was in morris code using .'s and -'s. If you happen to have caught that, you know exactly who and where I am down to my street address. > Still, no one is interested in tracking me or my data. Why? Because I > do not buy nor bank online. Ever. I don't even get targeted ads on > Facebook. > > Cybe R. Wizard I would say you have been lucky. My wife has a facebook account and it got hacked along with severl million others not too long ago. Didn't think too much about it at the time but a week or so ago my wife's facebook friends and people in her telephone contact list started receiving photos that was sent via text message from my wife's phone. She didn't send them but they were her photos that was on her phone. Becase she used the facebook app Messenger, her phone number was associated with her facebook account. Somehow someone was able to send text messages through her phone. If they could do that, they could do anything they wanted. She immediately had her phone number changed and she reset the phone to factory specs. Needless to say she won't be installing Messenger again. -- <Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453 The cow died so I don't need your bull!
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