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| Started by | "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| First post | 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700 |
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The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:14 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 03:19 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 11:49 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 19:48 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 03:50 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 21:13 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:02 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 23:46 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 16:18 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 09:27 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 03:58 -0400
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:24 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:13 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 14:49 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:28 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-05 11:07 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-31 05:51 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:40 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:52 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 09:52 -0400
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:53 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:01 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:34 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 17:57 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 22:02 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 22:30 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 18:10 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-29 02:03 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 21:43 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700
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| From | Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g17b7tF431pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51024 |
On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: > >> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad >> now. :-) > > *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?* > Just to piss you off.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpqt759.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #51027 |
Rene Lamontagne wrote: > On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: >> >>> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad >>> now. :-) >> >> *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?* >> > > Just to piss you off. > I thought it was funny ... (not sure which group Rene hails from, else I'd trim things.. Followup set to alt.os.linux). -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 22:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpqt96u.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #51030 |
😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------8B9BF86087B6902A69196C8D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On 28/09/2018 22:27, Dan Purgert wrote: >> >> . Followup set to alt.os.linux). >> > > Very good idea. Do you want a job to do this for EVERY posts by that > pedo by the name of Arlene H Holder? There is a vacancy here so let us > know if interested. I imagine I'd have to sub to .... um alt.comp.os.win-10, and unfortunately I'd probably be too busy whining about the UI (winXP SP2 was my favorite, although win2k was cleaner). Might I suggest a new entry in your killfile. HTH, HAND. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 22:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <poma30$t05$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #51030 |
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:27:06 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote: > I thought it was funny ... (not sure which group Rene hails from, else > I'd trim things.. Followup set to alt.os.linux). Dan Purgert, You _would_ think a fifth-grade level joke funny. BTW, Rene Lamantagne is a worthless troll from the Windows ng. I realize this will fall on your deaf ears, Dan Purgert, but we're all old men who were long ago supposed to have matured past the fifth grade level in both our humor, and in our ability to comprehend the topic of a technical thread. You may note that I don't need to prove that you're still mired in the humor of your fifth grade elementary school classmates. You proved yourself that you are still mired in a fifth grade mentality. -- fup left at a.o.l where the intent is to get you to just go away since you can't possibly add anything but childish comments of zero technical worth.
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| From | Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 18:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g17qniF76qoU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51032 |
On 09/28/2018 5:30 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:27:06 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote: > >> I thought it was funny ... (not sure which group Rene hails from, else >> I'd trim things.. Followup set to alt.os.linux). > > Dan Purgert, > You _would_ think a fifth-grade level joke funny. > > BTW, Rene Lamantagne is a worthless troll from the Windows ng. > > I realize this will fall on your deaf ears, Dan Purgert, but we're all old > men who were long ago supposed to have matured past the fifth grade level > in both our humor, and in our ability to comprehend the topic of a > technical thread. > > You may note that I don't need to prove that you're still mired in the > humor of your fifth grade elementary school classmates. > > You proved yourself that you are still mired in a fifth grade mentality. > I am not too, worthless, now you've gone and hurt my feelings. :-(
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 02:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pommgm$gd5$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #51033 |
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 18:10:39 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: > I am not too, worthless, now you've gone and hurt my feelings. :-( What I love is that you always prove me right, Rene Lamontagne! *You always childishly attempt to assert your God-given _right to troll_*
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| From | Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 21:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g1876iF9fd8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #51034 |
On 09/28/2018 9:03 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 18:10:39 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: > >> I am not too, worthless, now you've gone and hurt my feelings. :-( > > What I love is that you always prove me right, Rene Lamontagne! > > *You always childishly attempt to assert your God-given _right to troll_* > Lets not get into religion on newsgroups
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| From | Diesel <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA971BE02EBAC6HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh> |
| In reply to | #51012 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>> the source code for every app on android. >> >> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >> subscribers for). >> >> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, > > Ok. Let's go there. > > You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. > Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be > illegal. That's true. > > However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the > legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new > pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal > activity. They are logically distinct. > > If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal > *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A. Didn't I already cover this when I wrote: I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually committing copyright infringement when using the application. -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php =================================================== I had my coat hangers spayed.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pp73vm$rjo$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51087 |
Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28 > Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > >> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>> >>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>>> the source code for every app on android. >>> >>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >>> subscribers for). >>> >>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, >> >> Ok. Let's go there. >> >> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. >> Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be >> illegal. That's true. >> >> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the >> legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new >> pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal >> activity. They are logically distinct. >> >> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal >> *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A. > > Didn't I already cover this when I wrote: > > I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's > perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all > videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually > committing copyright infringement when using the application. Indeed you did. He just didn't get it. I think he does now as in every reply to me he snipped more and more of what I said as he couldn't refute the fact that new pipe might facilitate copyright theft despite it, in itself, being completely legal.
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| From | Diesel <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA971BE0474280HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh> |
| In reply to | #50999 |
Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > >> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >> the source code for every app on android. > > The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code > that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, > then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe > does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for > some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red > subscribers for). You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote: I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually committing copyright infringement when using the application. The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not. > I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at > obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that > Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe > functionality and source code particulars. Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php =================================================== 1 There's always one in every crowd.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pp67a9$1al6$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #51088 |
On 2018-10-04 3:29 PM, Diesel wrote: > Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> > news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in > alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>> the source code for every app on android. >> >> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >> subscribers for). > > You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote: > > I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's > perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all > videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually > committing copyright infringement when using the application. > > The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use > the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not. > >> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that >> Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe >> functionality and source code particulars. > > Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. > > > Have you ever noticed that those who most often use "adult" as an adjective are almost always the least adult people in a conversation? :-)
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