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  dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 15:48 -0600
    Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 00:48 +0200
      Re: TTS on GPS (was: dictation without internet?) "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-11 22:12 -0500
        Re: TTS on GPS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 14:16 +0200
          Re: TTS on GPS Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-13 10:30 +0000
        Re: TTS on GPS (was: dictation without internet?) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:20 -0700
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:36 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-12 16:29 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:34 -0600
    Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-12 01:06 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-09-12 07:54 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 14:19 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 17:01 +0000
            Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:23 +0200
              Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 19:35 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 02:42 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:50 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:30 +0200
    Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 03:02 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:43 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 15:00 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 21:02 +0000
            Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:27 -0600
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:26 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:04 +0200
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:00 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-15 02:34 +0200
            Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:21 -0600
              Re: dictation without internet? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 19:38 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:37 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:49 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:46 -0600
                  Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:52 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-15 08:40 +0200
            Re: dictation without internet? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2016-09-15 15:38 -0400
              Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 16:02 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:45 -0500
            Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:55 -0500
              Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-17 16:33 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 02:18 +0200
        Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:43 -0500
    Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:08 +0200
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:21 -0500
        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-15 17:09 -0500
            Re: dictation without internet? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 23:20 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:16 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:59 -0500
                  Re: dictation without internet? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-17 14:06 -0700
              Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:40 -0600
            Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:14 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 02:46 +0200
    Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 01:08 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:31 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 16:45 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:29 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:21 -0600
          Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-16 16:44 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 03:00 +0200

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#38925

On 09-17-2016 15:17, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> W. Wesley Groleau <Groleau+News@freeshell.org> wrote:
>> On 09-14-2016 03:00, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> What the OP wants is no Internet connection required for a local app to
>>> do speech analysis across many languages and variations and also do the
>>> transcription immediately and do it for dirt cheap.
>>
>> And it exists.  But not for phones.
>
>   He did not limit his platforms to "phones". Actually he did not even
> mention phones, at least not in his OP (and AFAIR not since).
>
>   OTOH, he seemed to have dropped Linux as a possible platform.

Correct.  But he said something like "easy to carry around" without 
defining "easy."  Since he talks about IOS & Android a lot, I took a guess.

-- 
Wes Groleau

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#38929

Frank Slootweg wrote:

> W. Wesley Groleau <Groleau+News@freeshell.org> wrote:
>> On 09-14-2016 03:00, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> What the OP wants is no Internet connection required for a local app to
>>> do speech analysis across many languages and variations and also do the
>>> transcription immediately and do it for dirt cheap.
>> 
>> And it exists.  But not for phones.
> 
>   He did not limit his platforms to "phones". Actually he did not even
> mention phones, at least not in his OP (and AFAIR not since).
> 
>   OTOH, he seemed to have dropped Linux as a possible platform.

A desktop or blade server host running Android would be off-topic of
this *mobile* newsgroup.  So where is Android "mobile"?  Smartphones and
tablets.  The OP has, so far, decided not to reveal his actual hardware.
He has presented, so far, a very vague target.  He hinted that he
doesn't have the hardware because of "What kind of box do I need to run
it?"  Well, in that case, he needs to start first looking at software
solutions, determine which of those are within his budget, and then get
the hardware required by that software, again, within his budget.

Another ambiguity is if he wants a solution on just one of his mentioned
platforms or one solution that will run on them all.  "Android or iOS or
linux" could mean is is look for a solution on one of them or one
solution for all of them.

With his introduction of strawman arguments and that he won't identify
the version of Android and his hardware, I don't see the point of
wasting further time trying to find him a software solution or a
nebulous platform for what is obviously a moving target.  I'm not quite
sure he is really here to get help or just fan the flames to see what
happens to waft up into the air that he might like.  It's like the user
that posts "What kind of computer should I buy?"  I know enough to skip
those.  Should've done the same with cranky; however, sometimes you have
to drill out more information from a poster, like hardware and budget
constraints, since few provide all the details in their opening post.

He hasn't even mentioned WHY he needs transcription software.  No one
gets a word processor just to play with the software by itself.  They
use it for something, like write letters, documentation, e-mails, or to
generate some output.  Cranky has left everything vague as though there
be one product that will do everything and everywhere and within a
non-disclosed budget.  Maybe he was really here to conduct of a poll of
"What transcription software do you use?"  If that were his intent, I
wouldn't skipped his inquiry.  I don't use any.  If and when I actually
have a *use* for it then I will investigate, not to just play with it
for no purpose.

I've got lots of other newsgroups to visit that I don't see anything
productive in spending more time with cranky.  He claims to have been a
software developer yet he hasn't a clue what is a Functional
Specification which provides the guidelines on how to accomplish the
task within a following Engineering Specification used by developers to
know just what they're supposed to do.

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#38949

On 2016-09-17 23:33, VanguardLH wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
>> W. Wesley Groleau <> wrote:
>>> On 09-14-2016 03:00, VanguardLH wrote:


>>> And it exists.  But not for phones.
>>
>>   He did not limit his platforms to "phones". Actually he did not even
>> mention phones, at least not in his OP (and AFAIR not since).
>>
>>   OTOH, he seemed to have dropped Linux as a possible platform.
> 
> A desktop or blade server host running Android would be off-topic of
> this *mobile* newsgroup.  So where is Android "mobile"?  Smartphones and
> tablets.  The OP has, so far, decided not to reveal his actual hardware.

Because it does not matter. He intends to buy the hardware that does the
trick. As he doesn't know what hardware and software will do it, he has
to be vague :-)


> Another ambiguity is if he wants a solution on just one of his mentioned
> platforms or one solution that will run on them all.  "Android or iOS or
> linux" could mean is is look for a solution on one of them or one
> solution for all of them.

I understand any of them. Thus, he posted on several groups.



> He hasn't even mentioned WHY he needs transcription software.  No one
> gets a word processor just to play with the software by itself.  They
> use it for something, like write letters, documentation, e-mails, or to
> generate some output.

Right, he did not specify the text to use for inputs. He mentioned on
another post "whole paragraphs". And the word "book" appeared.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#38850

On 09-14-2016 02:04, Arno Welzel wrote:
> "Dragon Anywhere is a professional-grade, cloud-based dictation solution"
>
> Well - "cloud-based" looks like "we send the recorded voice online to a
> server and get the text back". That's why they want money on a monthly
> basis. As long you pay, you can use the *online* service.

To the best of my knowledge, Mac OS's built-in Dictation is the only app 
for an Apple device that does it off-line.

Unfortunately, its performance seems to be pretty bad in recent 
versions.  It is still very accurate at recognizing words, but it is 
MUCH slower.  And it apparently has a much smaller buffer than before. 
If I don't stop and wait for it to catch up at the end of every 
sentence, it just quits completely.

I used to use it to save time typing.  Now, typing is faster.

But back to the original question: re-read my first sentence.

-- 
Wes Groleau

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#38825

crankypuss schrieb am 2016-09-11 um 23:48:

> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
> internet connection?  TIA.

<http://stackandroid.com/tutorial/how-to-enable-offline-speech-to-text-in-android/>

<http://www.kizeo.com/how-to-enable-offline-speech-recognition-on-samsungandroid-devices/>

HTH

-- 
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https://arnowelzel.de
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http://fahrradzukunft.de

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#38828

Arno Welzel wrote:

> crankypuss schrieb am 2016-09-11 um 23:48:
> 
>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
>> internet connection?  TIA.
> 
> <http://stackandroid.com/tutorial/how-to-enable-offline-speech-to-text-in-android/>
> 
> <http://www.kizeo.com/how-to-enable-offline-speech-recognition-on-samsungandroid-devices/>

Hmm, when I navigated there, English (US) was already installed (it
wasn't me that did that).  If I scroll to the right to see the
Auto-Update column, it shows "Auto-update languages over wi-fi only".
Whew, glad to know that they aren't going to suck up my cellular data
quota.

Thanks for that info.  Might explain why the transcription (text) showed
up for me very quickly.  Maybe cranky doesn't have his native language
downloaded and why there is a big lag for him for the transcription.

I did as Betts suggested and disabled wifi, cellular data, and Bluetooth
by enabling airplane mode.  In that test and with no Internet access,
the voice input didn't work.  This time it worked.  Weird.  Must've been
something else in my 1st test that interferred with using the local
language database.

A couple tests showed response was very quick; however, accuracy was
poor (passable for me but definitely not for cranky) and there is no way
to indentify punctuation.  Well, it's free.  Nuance claims 99% accuracy
but you have to pay for that far better accuracy.

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#38832

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> 
> A couple tests showed response was very quick; however, accuracy was
> poor (passable for me but definitely not for cranky) and there is no way
> to indentify punctuation.  

You can't say "period" or "question mark" or "exclamation point" to end a
sentence? 

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#38848

Jolly Roger wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
> 
>> A couple tests showed response was very quick; however, accuracy was
>> poor (passable for me but definitely not for cranky) and there is no way
>> to indentify punctuation.  
> 
> You can't say "period" or "question mark" or "exclamation point" to end a
> sentence?

Announcing punctuation sometimes works but you have to be clear on
saying period, comma, question mark, exclamation mark, etc.  Saying
"semicolon" resulted in inputted that string, not the ";" character.
"Paragraph" resulted in inputting the word instead of a starting a new
paragraph.  I might yet have to learn (instead of the program learning)
the style of voice input needed to get all punctuation recognized.

In my prior test, I would annonce a punctuation character right along
with the text and then continue speaking the next sentence; i.e., no
pause.  I found that if I pause, especially after announcing the
punctuation character, like half a second, that first the string got
entered and then backspaced after a pause to replace the string with the
punctuation character.  So it takes some training to get used to how to
comply with the needs of the program (rather than it learning your
voice).

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#38849

In message <e40kgpFrv5fU1@mid.individual.net> 
  VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:

>> VanguardLH wrote:
>> 
>>> A couple tests showed response was very quick; however, accuracy was
>>> poor (passable for me but definitely not for cranky) and there is no way
>>> to indentify punctuation.  
>> 
>> You can't say "period" or "question mark" or "exclamation point" to end a
>> sentence?

> Announcing punctuation sometimes works but you have to be clear on
> saying period, comma, question mark, exclamation mark, etc.  Saying
> "semicolon" resulted in inputted that string, not the ";" character.
> "Paragraph" resulted in inputting the word instead of a starting a new
> paragraph.  I might yet have to learn (instead of the program learning)
> the style of voice input needed to get all punctuation recognized.

If I say; I get a; and the command to start a paragraph is quote"

"

What I said: "If I say semi colon I get a semi colon and the command to
start a paragraph is quote new paragraph end quote."


> In my prior test, I would annonce a punctuation character right along
> with the text and then continue speaking the next sentence; i.e., no
> pause.  I found that if I pause, especially after announcing the
> punctuation character, like half a second, that first the string got
> entered and then backspaced after a pause to replace the string with the
> punctuation character.  So it takes some training to get used to how to
> comply with the needs of the program (rather than it learning your
> voice).

Siri dictation on both iOS and the Mac is much smarter than that. I can
dictate a whole paragraph and Siri will jump back and fix things as I
go. There is no need to pause.

(That previous paragraph was Siri dictation).

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itself to him.'

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#38854

On 2016-09-15, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> Siri dictation on both iOS and the Mac is much smarter than that. I can
> dictate a whole paragraph and Siri will jump back and fix things as I
> go. There is no need to pause.
>
> (That previous paragraph was Siri dictation).

Same here. I'm generally pleased with Siri's dictation. 

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#38926

On 09-15-2016 20:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-09-15, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>
>> Siri dictation on both iOS and the Mac is much smarter than that. I can
>> dictate a whole paragraph and Siri will jump back and fix things as I
>> go. There is no need to pause.
>>
>> (That previous paragraph was Siri dictation).
>
> Same here. I'm generally pleased with Siri's dictation.

Yeah, Siri puzzles me.  Works well for some people, not at all for 
others.  Misinterprets me usually.  Can't blame my speech, since Dragon 
gets me quite well and Mac OS dictation gets me almost perfectly.

-- 
Wes Groleau

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#38927

On 9/17/16, 1:59 PM, in article nrkas1$abs$1@dont-email.me, "W. Wesley
Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 09-15-2016 20:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2016-09-15, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Siri dictation on both iOS and the Mac is much smarter than that. I can
>>> dictate a whole paragraph and Siri will jump back and fix things as I
>>> go. There is no need to pause.
>>> 
>>> (That previous paragraph was Siri dictation).
>> 
>> Same here. I'm generally pleased with Siri's dictation.
> 
> Yeah, Siri puzzles me.  Works well for some people, not at all for
> others.  Misinterprets me usually.  Can't blame my speech, since Dragon
> gets me quite well and Mac OS dictation gets me almost perfectly.

I know a number of people who have a hard time with Siri because they talk
loud and slow and right in the mic. It seems to work better with just
natural speaking. Actually took me some time to get used to... I think of
computers as needing the extra "help."

Still will get some words wrong... it is far from perfect but generally
works well for me -- the few times I use it. Will try it on OS X when I
update.


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#38860

On 09/15/2016 05:20 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <e40kgpFrv5fU1@mid.individual.net>
>   VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>
>>>> A couple tests showed response was very quick; however, accuracy was
>>>> poor (passable for me but definitely not for cranky) and there is no way
>>>> to indentify punctuation.
>>>
>>> You can't say "period" or "question mark" or "exclamation point" to end a
>>> sentence?
>
>> Announcing punctuation sometimes works but you have to be clear on
>> saying period, comma, question mark, exclamation mark, etc.  Saying
>> "semicolon" resulted in inputted that string, not the ";" character.
>> "Paragraph" resulted in inputting the word instead of a starting a new
>> paragraph.  I might yet have to learn (instead of the program learning)
>> the style of voice input needed to get all punctuation recognized.
>
> If I say; I get a; and the command to start a paragraph is quote"
>
> "
>
> What I said: "If I say semi colon I get a semi colon and the command to
> start a paragraph is quote new paragraph end quote."
>
>
>> In my prior test, I would annonce a punctuation character right along
>> with the text and then continue speaking the next sentence; i.e., no
>> pause.  I found that if I pause, especially after announcing the
>> punctuation character, like half a second, that first the string got
>> entered and then backspaced after a pause to replace the string with the
>> punctuation character.  So it takes some training to get used to how to
>> comply with the needs of the program (rather than it learning your
>> voice).
>
> Siri dictation on both iOS and the Mac is much smarter than that. I can
> dictate a whole paragraph and Siri will jump back and fix things as I
> go. There is no need to pause.
>
> (That previous paragraph was Siri dictation).
>

I can't even get NewsTap to let me type a letter in the case I type it 
in, the autocorrection on iOS is ever so smart, just like Siri.

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#38853

On 2016-09-15, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>> 
>>> A couple tests showed response was very quick; however, accuracy was
>>> poor (passable for me but definitely not for cranky) and there is no way
>>> to indentify punctuation.  
>> 
>> You can't say "period" or "question mark" or "exclamation point" to end a
>> sentence?
>
> Announcing punctuation sometimes works but you have to be clear on
> saying period, comma, question mark, exclamation mark, etc.  Saying
> "semicolon" resulted in inputted that string, not the ";" character.
> "Paragraph" resulted in inputting the word instead of a starting a new
> paragraph.  I might yet have to learn (instead of the program learning)
> the style of voice input needed to get all punctuation recognized.
>
> In my prior test, I would annonce a punctuation character right along
> with the text and then continue speaking the next sentence; i.e., no
> pause.  I found that if I pause, especially after announcing the
> punctuation character, like half a second, that first the string got
> entered and then backspaced after a pause to replace the string with the
> punctuation character.  So it takes some training to get used to how to
> comply with the needs of the program (rather than it learning your
> voice).

That's interesting. Siri seems to get it right whether I pause or not. 

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#38948

On 2016-09-14 09:08, Arno Welzel wrote:
> crankypuss schrieb am 2016-09-11 um 23:48:
> 
>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
>> internet connection?  TIA.
> 
> <http://stackandroid.com/tutorial/how-to-enable-offline-speech-to-text-in-android/>

Just looked this out in my tablet (Asus zenpad 10), and the relevant
section: "Offline Speech recognition/manage downloaded languages" is
missing. However, it is present in my motorola phone, where my two
languages were already downloaded.

By the way, having two languages defined is a nuisance. Android tries to
decide the language automatically, guessing at what I say, and it does
so badly. Apparently one should be able to disable "automatic", but that
is not so in either of my devices. Go figure.


Besides that, I tried just now in my phone disabling networking
(airplane mode) to dictate a paragraph, and it worked quite accurately
and fast. You have to stop now and then to correct the errors, though.
End of paragraph, at least. Depends on the language and how your voice
deviates from the standard, I guess.

And I don't know if the device communicates later with the server what I
dictate or if it is kept private.

Thus, a phone or tablet certainly has enough power to do it.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#38835

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 15:48:08h -0600, Cranky Puss asked:

> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or 
> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an 
> internet connection?

Which languages do you require your software to recognise?

Does the "List of speech recognition applications" provide anything
appropriate to your specific needs?  (Scroll down the page.)

<https://wiki.archlinux.ORG/index.php/Speech_recognition>

The two opensource that get favorable comments for their level of
sophistication on various web pages are CMU Sphinx 

   <http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.NET/>

and Julius.

   <http://julius.osdn.JP/en_index.php?

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#38840

On 09/14/2016 07:08 PM, J G Miller wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 15:48:08h -0600, Cranky Puss asked:
>
>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>> internet connection?
>
> Which languages do you require your software to recognise?

English, it's all I can do to speak English.  If it supports a dialect 
called "American mushmouth" that would be handy.

>
> Does the "List of speech recognition applications" provide anything
> appropriate to your specific needs?  (Scroll down the page.)
>
> <https://wiki.archlinux.ORG/index.php/Speech_recognition>

Heh, I like their "note to newcomers".  I will read this page, thank you 
for the link.  (If the answers keep coming from the arch wiki as they so 
often do, maybe someday I'll get around to installing arch.)

>
> The two opensource that get favorable comments for their level of
> sophistication on various web pages are CMU Sphinx
>
>    <http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.NET/>
>
> and Julius.
>
>    <http://julius.osdn.JP/en_index.php?
>

Given how long it takes to do things under iOS (user-interface for the 
masses is slow going) and how tough it is for newbs like me to get linux 
configured, it's enough to make a guy smile. <G>

It also reminds me that whenever I'm pursuing side interests like this 
I'm not writing code.  Thanks.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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#38844

On Thursday, September 15th, 2016, at 05:31:24h -0600,
Cranky Puss postulated:

> (If the answers keep coming from the arch wiki as they so 
> often do, maybe someday I'll get around to installing arch.)

Well the thing is the answers from the Arch Wiki are generally useful
for whichever GNU/Linux distribution one is using, albeit there could
be some variation on features available or file locations.

If you are thinkg a rolling distribution (which is what Archi Linux is)
would be of benefit (and remember rolling distributions usually need more
care and maintenance than stable releases) then to save yourself some work,
you should take a look at Manjaro Linux.

Manjaro Linux is based on Arch, has received very favorable reviews
of its most recent incarnation, removes all of the manual ground work
that is needed for pure Arch, and also appears to have a very active
and friendly user forum for answering questions and solving problems.

            <https://manjaro.ORG/>

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#38858

On 09/15/2016 10:45 AM, J G Miller wrote:
> On Thursday, September 15th, 2016, at 05:31:24h -0600,
> Cranky Puss postulated:
>
>> (If the answers keep coming from the arch wiki as they so
>> often do, maybe someday I'll get around to installing arch.)
>
> Well the thing is the answers from the Arch Wiki are generally useful
> for whichever GNU/Linux distribution one is using, albeit there could
> be some variation on features available or file locations.
>
> If you are thinkg a rolling distribution (which is what Archi Linux is)
> would be of benefit (and remember rolling distributions usually need more
> care and maintenance than stable releases) then to save yourself some work,
> you should take a look at Manjaro Linux.
>
> Manjaro Linux is based on Arch, has received very favorable reviews
> of its most recent incarnation, removes all of the manual ground work
> that is needed for pure Arch, and also appears to have a very active
> and friendly user forum for answering questions and solving problems.
>
>             <https://manjaro.ORG/>
>

Thanks, but I was mostly saying the arch wiki kicks ass and the distro 
might be just that good.

In real-life I'll just stick with Debian jessie until it no longer 
matters whether my code is running on linux or iOS, then I'll see what 
happens.  If I haven't croaked off from old-age first, you know how that 
"time" business goes.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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#38857

On 09/15/2016 05:31 AM, crankypuss wrote:
> On 09/14/2016 07:08 PM, J G Miller wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 15:48:08h -0600, Cranky Puss asked:
>>
>>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>>> internet connection?
>>
>> Which languages do you require your software to recognise?
>
> English, it's all I can do to speak English.  If it supports a dialect
> called "American mushmouth" that would be handy.
>
>>
>> Does the "List of speech recognition applications" provide anything
>> appropriate to your specific needs?  (Scroll down the page.)
>>
>> <https://wiki.archlinux.ORG/index.php/Speech_recognition>
>
> Heh, I like their "note to newcomers".  I will read this page, thank you
> for the link.  (If the answers keep coming from the arch wiki as they so
> often do, maybe someday I'll get around to installing arch.)
>
>>
>> The two opensource that get favorable comments for their level of
>> sophistication on various web pages are CMU Sphinx
>>
>>    <http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.NET/>
>>
>> and Julius.
>>
>>    <http://julius.osdn.JP/en_index.php?
>>
>
> Given how long it takes to do things under iOS (user-interface for the
> masses is slow going) and how tough it is for newbs like me to get linux
> configured, it's enough to make a guy smile. <G>
>
> It also reminds me that whenever I'm pursuing side interests like this
> I'm not writing code.  Thanks.
>

I've figured something out (duh!)

Based on my previous 3-4 years of experience with linux, I'm not willing 
to spend the month-or-so it would probably take me to get something set 
up and configured.  I can't afford the distraction.  It would probably 
be the best solution, the xps13 I'm using now has plenty of processor 
and plenty of storage space, but I need to keep moving forward on this 
code or it'll never happen.

I appreciate the links, but I need something like an Android or iOS app 
that will just install and just work.  Or maybe a preconfigured linux 
box, or something that says "dictaphone" and is $9.97 at Walmart, I dunno.

Anyway the linux solution is the only one I've seen mentioned here, 
which is unfortunate for me, but I'm trying to get a prototype flying by 
new-years, and I've miles and miles to go.  Thanks again.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Sep 03: "Associative Storage and Everything Everywhere"]

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