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Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video

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First post2015-07-19 23:54 -0400
Last post2015-07-21 09:55 +0100
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  Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-19 23:54 -0400
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2015-07-20 00:19 -0400
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-07-20 09:37 +0100
      Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 17:25 +0100
        Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-07-20 09:36 -0700
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2015-07-20 07:34 +0000
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2015-07-20 08:58 +0000
      Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-20 08:22 -0400
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-07-20 09:08 +0000
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere> - 2015-07-20 09:31 -0400
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-07-20 08:07 -0700
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-20 18:45 +0000
    Re: Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 09:55 +0100

#29397 — Without the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video

From"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2015-07-19 23:54 -0400
SubjectWithout the cloud, how can I send someone a 28MB MP4 video
Message-ID<8dcd2$55ac70f5$43da7656$32192@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and 
the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using 
Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.

GMAIL THUNDERBIRD ERROR ON LINUX: 
"The size of the message you are trying to send exceeds the global size 
limit (35882577 bytes) of the server. The message was not sent; reduce 
the message size and try again."

The file is 28-1/2 megabytes (despite what the Gmail message says).

$ ls -l *mp4
-rw-rw-r-- 1 28544810 Jul 19 19:58 20150717_202834.mp4

$ exiftool *.mp4
File Size                       : 27 MB
File Type                       : MP4
MIME Type                       : video/mp4
Major Brand                     : MP4  Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
Compatible Brands               : isom, 3gp4
Movie Data Size                 : 28536354
$ tovid id *mp4
Analyzing file: '20150717_202834.mp4'...
=========================================================
               File: 20150717_202834.mp4
              Width: 1920 pixels
             Height: 1080 pixels
       Aspect ratio: 1.77:1
             Frames: 399
           Duration: 00:00:13 hours/mins/secs
          Framerate: 90000.000 frames per second
       Video format: H264
      Video bitrate: 17025760 bits per second
---------------------------
Audio track 1 (Stream 0.1, AID 0):
---------------------------
Codec: aac
Bitrate: 117000 bits per second 
Sampling rate: 48000 Hz 
=========================================================                                                                                           
Audio is compliant with the following formats: 
  Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
Video is compliant with the following formats:
  Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
This video does not seem to be compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
standards. If you burn it to a video disc, it may not work.
=========================================================

I do not want to set up a cloud account just to send this one file 
(this is the first time in a decade I've needed to "email" something 
large).

On Linux, I tried compressing it to a zip file, but the result was the 
same size.

Is there a way to break the file into smaller pieces on Linux, so that 
the recipient can reassemble it (they're probably on Windows & Android) 
after I email it to them using Thunderbird on Linux with Gmail?

Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud for just one file).

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#29398

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2015-07-20 00:19 -0400
Message-ID<XnsA4DD3463E024nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#29397
On 19 Jul 2015, "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> Is there a way to break the file into smaller pieces on Linux, so
> that the recipient can reassemble it (they're probably on Windows
> & Android) after I email it to them using Thunderbird on Linux
> with Gmail? 

There probably is, but is your mother computer literate enough to join 
the pieces on her end?

> Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud for just one
> file). 

This sounds to me like a good job for Youtube. Upload the video there 
and send the link to her. You must have a Youtube account, of course.

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#29403

FromDavid Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid>
Date2015-07-20 09:37 +0100
Message-ID<moibtj$eii$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29397
On 20/07/2015 04:54, M.L. wrote:
> On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and
> the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using
> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.
[]
> Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud for just one file).

Consider using the cloud in any case, because this requirement may arise 
again.

For now, why not stick the video on an SD card or memory stick and post it.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#29411

FromRoger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-20 17:25 +0100
Message-ID<d14ljpFd8s7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29403
On 20/07/2015 09:37, David Taylor wrote:
> On 20/07/2015 04:54, M.L. wrote:
>> On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and
>> the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using
>> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.
> []
>> Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud for just one file).
>
> Consider using the cloud in any case, because this requirement may arise
> again.
>
> For now, why not stick the video on an SD card or memory stick and post it.
>


+1
At last someone has come up with a sensible "real world" solution!
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
____________
Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom 
checked.

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#29412

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2015-07-20 09:36 -0700
Message-ID<d14mcvFdk8hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29411
Roger Mills wrote:
> David Taylor wrote:

>> For now, why not stick the video on an SD card or memory stick and
>> post it.
>>
> +1
> At last someone has come up with a sensible "real world" solution!

  - SD card requires compatible devices on both ends and sacrifices a 
card by the sender
  - flash drive 'sacrifices' a stick by the sender
  - both require postal handling of unknown days

(Whereas/Alternatively)  Opening his browser, accessing his existing 
gmail webmail account (since he hasn't used Drive before) will take him 
by the hand and lead him to Drive and then paste the link in his mail 
for him.  His mom gets the mail, clicks the link, and accessing the file.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#29404

FromJasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz>
Date2015-07-20 07:34 +0000
Message-ID<moi8ai$g83$3@gonzo.alcatraz>
In reply to#29397
On 2015-07-20, M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and 
> the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using 
> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.
>
> GMAIL THUNDERBIRD ERROR ON LINUX: 
> "The size of the message you are trying to send exceeds the global size 
> limit (35882577 bytes) of the server. The message was not sent; reduce 
> the message size and try again."
>
> The file is 28-1/2 megabytes 

That sounds about right.

MIME BASE64 encoding bloats the file by about 40% when sent as an
email.

Do as suggested and make the email smaller.

-- 
umop apisdn

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#29405

Fromandrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid>
Date2015-07-20 08:58 +0000
Message-ID<20150720190004.526@skamandros.andrews-corner.org>
In reply to#29397
On 2015-07-20, M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and 
> the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using 
> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.

http://www.datafilehost.com/

-- 
Do you think that's air you're breathing?

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#29408

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2015-07-20 08:22 -0400
Message-ID<avppqaplelfseqpqcl7g4tr8emnp3bkr57@4ax.com>
In reply to#29405
On 20 Jul 2015 08:58:58 GMT, andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> Gave us:

>On 2015-07-20, M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and 
>> the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using 
>> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.
>
>http://www.datafilehost.com/
>
>-- 
>Do you think that's air you're breathing?

  You killed my dog, you Ruskie punk!

  Oh wait...  different movie...

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#29406

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-07-20 09:08 +0000
Message-ID<moidpl$jdp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29397
On 2015-07-20, M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and 
> the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using 
> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.
>
> GMAIL THUNDERBIRD ERROR ON LINUX: 
> "The size of the message you are trying to send exceeds the global size 
> limit (35882577 bytes) of the server. The message was not sent; reduce 
> the message size and try again."

Change the global size limit of your system, or of the server. If it is
gmail that is setting that limit, then of course you much use something
else.

Alternatively transfer the file by some other means ( ftp, rsync,....)

 
>
> The file is 28-1/2 megabytes (despite what the Gmail message says).
>
> $ ls -l *mp4
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 28544810 Jul 19 19:58 20150717_202834.mp4
>
> $ exiftool *.mp4
> File Size                       : 27 MB
> File Type                       : MP4
> MIME Type                       : video/mp4
> Major Brand                     : MP4  Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
> Compatible Brands               : isom, 3gp4
> Movie Data Size                 : 28536354
> $ tovid id *mp4
> Analyzing file: '20150717_202834.mp4'...
>=========================================================
>                File: 20150717_202834.mp4
>               Width: 1920 pixels
>              Height: 1080 pixels
>        Aspect ratio: 1.77:1
>              Frames: 399
>            Duration: 00:00:13 hours/mins/secs
>           Framerate: 90000.000 frames per second
>        Video format: H264
>       Video bitrate: 17025760 bits per second
> ---------------------------
> Audio track 1 (Stream 0.1, AID 0):
> ---------------------------
> Codec: aac
> Bitrate: 117000 bits per second 
> Sampling rate: 48000 Hz 
>=========================================================                                                                                           
> Audio is compliant with the following formats: 
>   Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
> Video is compliant with the following formats:
>   Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
> This video does not seem to be compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
> standards. If you burn it to a video disc, it may not work.
>=========================================================
>
> I do not want to set up a cloud account just to send this one file 
> (this is the first time in a decade I've needed to "email" something 
> large).
>
> On Linux, I tried compressing it to a zip file, but the result was the 
> same size.
>
> Is there a way to break the file into smaller pieces on Linux, so that 
> the recipient can reassemble it (they're probably on Windows & Android) 
> after I email it to them using Thunderbird on Linux with Gmail?
>
> Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud for just one file).

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#29409

FromJohn McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere>
Date2015-07-20 09:31 -0400
Message-ID<GL6rx.185486$_a4.57823@fx03.iad>
In reply to#29397
On 7/19/2015 11:54 PM, M.L. wrote:
> On my Android phone, I took an MP4 video of birthday party singing, and
> the mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using
> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.
>
> GMAIL THUNDERBIRD ERROR ON LINUX:
> "The size of the message you are trying to send exceeds the global size
> limit (35882577 bytes) of the server. The message was not sent; reduce
> the message size and try again."
>
> The file is 28-1/2 megabytes (despite what the Gmail message says).
>
> $ ls -l *mp4
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 28544810 Jul 19 19:58 20150717_202834.mp4
>
> $ exiftool *.mp4
> File Size                       : 27 MB
> File Type                       : MP4
> MIME Type                       : video/mp4
> Major Brand                     : MP4  Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
> Compatible Brands               : isom, 3gp4
> Movie Data Size                 : 28536354
> $ tovid id *mp4
> Analyzing file: '20150717_202834.mp4'...
> =========================================================
>                 File: 20150717_202834.mp4
>                Width: 1920 pixels
>               Height: 1080 pixels
>         Aspect ratio: 1.77:1
>               Frames: 399
>             Duration: 00:00:13 hours/mins/secs
>            Framerate: 90000.000 frames per second
>         Video format: H264
>        Video bitrate: 17025760 bits per second
> ---------------------------
> Audio track 1 (Stream 0.1, AID 0):
> ---------------------------
> Codec: aac
> Bitrate: 117000 bits per second
> Sampling rate: 48000 Hz
> =========================================================
> Audio is compliant with the following formats:
>    Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
> Video is compliant with the following formats:
>    Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
> This video does not seem to be compliant with (S)VCD or DVD
> standards. If you burn it to a video disc, it may not work.
> =========================================================
>
> I do not want to set up a cloud account just to send this one file
> (this is the first time in a decade I've needed to "email" something
> large).
>
> On Linux, I tried compressing it to a zip file, but the result was the
> same size.
>
> Is there a way to break the file into smaller pieces on Linux, so that
> the recipient can reassemble it (they're probably on Windows & Android)
> after I email it to them using Thunderbird on Linux with Gmail?
>
> Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud for just one file).
>

Google for 'file splitter' and find something from a reputable download 
site. Use that the divide the file into pieces that are email-able. Tell 
the recipient how to handle it from there. This has always been a common 
task, especially with USENET binaries, that there are scores of solutions 
freely available.

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#29410

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2015-07-20 08:07 -0700
Message-ID<d14h61Fc7n5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29397
to aol only

M.L. wrote:
> mom wants the video, and I can't send it through gmail using
> Thunderbird on Linux because of its size.

Instead of trying to send it via Tb & gmail, if you had instead tried to 
send it via gmail webmail, gmail would have provided you instructions 
for proper transport of large files; not email.

Gmail webmail will 'spoonfeed' you access to google drive:

// Why should I insert using Drive instead of attaching a file?
   Send larger files - When you're attaching files from your computer, 
you can only attach files up to 25 megabytes (MB) in size. By inserting 
files using Drive, you can send a file up to 15 gigabytes (GB). If 
you're paying for a storage plan, you can send a file up to 1TB. //


'Without the cloud' is a bad premise in this case, as you need a method 
which is sufficiently easy/simple for both you and your mom.  Using the 
internet to transfer large files is dead simple.  You park the file 
somewhere and you give someone a link to it.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#29413

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2015-07-20 18:45 +0000
Message-ID<d14ttpFfkplU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29397
Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> wrote:
> In alt.os.linux M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> > The file is 28-1/2 megabytes (despite what the Gmail message says).
> 
> But is a binary, so has to be MIME encoded (only 7-bit chars are
> allowed in E-mail) which will make it at least 1/3 larger.
> 
> > Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud for just one file).
> 
> This seems to be a case for one of the file sharing sites, like:
> http://www.filemail.com/
> or
> https://www.wetransfer.com/

+1 (for WeTransfer)

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#29416

Fromchris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-21 09:55 +0100
Message-ID<mol1b2$gkp$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29397
On 20/07/2015 07:24, J0HNS0N wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 23:54:29 -0400, "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ideas welcome (but I don't want to set up the cloud
>
> Sorry I missed this in my first post. So disregard my reply.

The OP already has access to Google Drive given that he/she has a gmail 
account. I think your original suggestion is a good (best?) one.

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