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| Started by | Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> |
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| First post | 2018-10-31 20:24 -0500 |
| Last post | 2018-11-08 15:38 +0100 |
| Articles | 2 on this page of 42 — 16 participants |
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Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-31 20:24 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! NumbLock <789456123@0.com> - 2018-10-31 20:20 -0700
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-01 14:40 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-19 08:12 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-11-01 07:50 -0700
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 07:09 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 04:02 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-01 09:24 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 09:30 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-11-02 11:46 +1300
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 19:06 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 08:42 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-02 13:02 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-11-03 14:34 +1300
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-01 14:43 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2018-11-01 11:46 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-01 21:53 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-11-02 04:23 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-02 01:45 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-02 02:16 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-11-01 08:45 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-01 15:00 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-01 11:27 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-11-01 15:25 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-11-08 10:06 +0100
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2018-11-08 08:11 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-08 08:37 -0600
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-09 16:49 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-11-09 15:25 -0600
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-10 00:42 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-11-09 13:56 +1300
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-01 22:04 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-02 06:41 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-02 04:20 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-11-02 05:51 -0700
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 19:47 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-02 16:31 -0400
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 21:14 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-02 13:06 +0000
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-02 07:19 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-02 07:15 -0500
Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-11-08 15:38 +0100
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 07:15 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! |
| Message-ID | <878t2b3cb2.fsf@dhh.gt.org> |
| In reply to | #51468 |
Paul writes: > They're passivated with polysilicon on top. (There is mention of a > 1000C annealing process.) And a thin coating of polymer over that. Helium would go right through that. > I was looking to see if it had a breather hole for pressure > equalization, but it doesn't appear to have that. Neither necessary nor desireable. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 15:38 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Here you go, Apple lovers! Eat this! |
| Message-ID | <7ebfe42ecc44753e7f121c04e0843600@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #51457 |
In article <87tvl03grg.fsf@dhh.gt.org> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote: > > Andy Burns writes: > > I'm not clear why an oscillator would be "open" to the atmosphere, > > whereas a barometer would need to be. > > They weren't open. They were sealed, and most likely contained either a > vacuum or a specific gas. However, helium diffuses through everything > at an astounding rate, and something about these particular parts made > them especially susceptible to small amounts of helium. It probably > changed the velocity of sound inside the device just enough to screw it > up. Other brands of oscillator might also have been affected but if > they merely shifted off frequency a bit no one would have noticed. > > It's also possible that these oscillators didn't stop either, but > shifted frequency enough to cause the operating system to become alarmed > and/or confused. All the more reason not to spend obscene amounts of money on an iphone.
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