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  Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" "the borg" <failure-thy-name-is@ibm.com> - 2018-10-29 09:28 +0100
    Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-29 08:36 -0500
      Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-29 19:34 +0000
        Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" tom <tom@0.0.0.0> - 2019-02-26 22:00 -0800
          Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-27 17:02 +0000
    Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> - 2018-11-01 03:40 -0700
      Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-01 14:46 +0000
        Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 17:51 +0000
          Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-01 14:21 -0500
            Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 00:52 +0000
          Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-11-01 21:40 +0000
      Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-11-01 10:38 -0500
    Re: Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion" Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> - 2018-11-09 05:41 -0800

#51428 — Kiss of death, "IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion"

IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
the companies announced on Sunday.

According to a joint statement, IBM will pay cash to buy all 
shares in Red Hat at $190 each. Shares in Red Hat closed at 
$116.68 on Friday before the deal was announced.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-
valued-at-34-billion.html

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#51429

the borg explained :
> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
> the companies announced on Sunday.
>
> According to a joint statement, IBM will pay cash to buy all 
> shares in Red Hat at $190 each. Shares in Red Hat closed at 
> $116.68 on Friday before the deal was announced.
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-
> valued-at-34-billion.html

  Dang!  Wish I had some insider information about this purchase.

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#51432

On 2018-10-29, Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> wrote:
> the borg explained :
>> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
>> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
>> the companies announced on Sunday.
>>
>> According to a joint statement, IBM will pay cash to buy all 
>> shares in Red Hat at $190 each. Shares in Red Hat closed at 
>> $116.68 on Friday before the deal was announced.
>>
>> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-
>> valued-at-34-billion.html
>
>   Dang!  Wish I had some insider information about this purchase.

You're that desperate for accomodation?

-- 
  When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.

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#54234

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:34:46 -0000 (UTC)
Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

> On 2018-10-29, Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> wrote:
> > the borg explained :
> >> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
> >> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
> >> the companies announced on Sunday.
> >>
> >> According to a joint statement, IBM will pay cash to buy all 
> >> shares in Red Hat at $190 each. Shares in Red Hat closed at 
> >> $116.68 on Friday before the deal was announced.
> >>
> >> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-
> >> valued-at-34-billion.html
> >
> >   Dang!  Wish I had some insider information about this purchase.
> 
> You're that desperate for accomodation?
> 

Maybe they will fire Poettering and finally put systemd, PulseAudio,
and Dbus in the bin.

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#54249

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 22:00:11 -0800, tom vomited this verbiage that I
considered to be worthy of my attention for one of a variety of possible
reasons:

>> 
> Maybe they will fire Poettering and finally put systemd, PulseAudio,
> and Dbus in the bin.
>

With all the distro maintainers lining up to kiss Poettering's
ass, it's not very likely.

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#51443

On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 4:39:04 PM UTC+8, the borg wrote:
> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
> the companies announced on Sunday.
> 

Suse was sold to some investors for only 2.5 milliard dollars.

I am only worried if Centos/Leap get shafted....

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#51451

On 2018-11-01, Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 4:39:04 PM UTC+8, the borg wrote:
>> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
>> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
>> the companies announced on Sunday.
>> 
>
> Suse was sold to some investors for only 2.5 milliard dollars.
>
> I am only worried if Centos/Leap get shafted....

Redhat, as all Linux distros, is GPL. This means that Centos (well they
are now owned by REdhat) or anyone else can package and distribute
Redhat without problem. 

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#51458

On 2018-11-01, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> On 2018-11-01, Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 4:39:04 PM UTC+8, the borg wrote:
>>> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
>>> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
>>> the companies announced on Sunday.
>>> 
>>
>> Suse was sold to some investors for only 2.5 milliard dollars.
>>
>> I am only worried if Centos/Leap get shafted....
>
> Redhat, as all Linux distros, is GPL. This means that Centos (well they
> are now owned by REdhat) or anyone else can package and distribute
> Redhat without problem. 

They can, but Red Hat was making it more difficult to do so until they came 
to some kind of agreement with CentOS, which made things much easier for 
CentOS. (I would have to go back and re-read exactly what the change was, 
but this happened a couple (three?) years ago. I'm guessing IBM could 
reverse the agreement made with CentOS.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#51460

RonB writes:
> They can, but Red Hat was making it more difficult to do so...

They required the removal of all Red Hat trademarks.


> ...until they came to some kind of agreement with CentOS...

Red Hat acquired all the CentOS trademarks, hired all the lead
developers, and became the "sponsor".
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#51465

On 2018-11-01, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> RonB writes:
>> They can, but Red Hat was making it more difficult to do so...
>
> They required the removal of all Red Hat trademarks.
>
>
>> ...until they came to some kind of agreement with CentOS...
>
> Red Hat acquired all the CentOS trademarks, hired all the lead
> developers, and became the "sponsor".

I didn't realize that it had gone that far. I wonder if CentOS users should 
worry?

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#51462

On 2018-11-01, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-11-01, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>> On 2018-11-01, Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 4:39:04 PM UTC+8, the borg wrote:
>>>> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
>>>> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
>>>> the companies announced on Sunday.
>>>> 
>>>
>>> Suse was sold to some investors for only 2.5 milliard dollars.
>>>
>>> I am only worried if Centos/Leap get shafted....
>>
>> Redhat, as all Linux distros, is GPL. This means that Centos (well they
>> are now owned by REdhat) or anyone else can package and distribute
>> Redhat without problem. 
>
> They can, but Red Hat was making it more difficult to do so until they came 
> to some kind of agreement with CentOS, which made things much easier for 
> CentOS. (I would have to go back and re-read exactly what the change was, 
> but this happened a couple (three?) years ago. I'm guessing IBM could 
> reverse the agreement made with CentOS.

Yes, thy were trying to, in direct contravantion of the GPL, which
explicity states that you cannot do anything to prevent someone from
copying a GPL work. Putting in trademarked stuff and saying thatthat
prevents you from copying the work IS such a prevention and removes
RedHat's right to copy any of the GPL material. 


>

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#51456

Pedro Valdez writes:
> I am only worried if Centos/Leap get shafted....

IBM's history with Free Software and with Linux has generally been very
positive.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#51553

On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 4:39:04 PM UTC+8, the borg wrote:
> IBM is acquiring Red Hat, a major distributor of open-source 
> software and technology, in a deal valued around $34 billion, 
> the companies announced on Sunday.
> 

Just after the takeover Red Hat quietly whispered:

KDE Plasma Workspaces (KDE), which has been provided as an alternative to the default GNOME desktop environment has been deprecated. A future major release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux will no longer support using KDE instead of the default GNOME desktop environment.

Allegedly their users prefer GNOME.
Suse Linux Enterprise 15 stinks with only Gnome desktop. Thankfully Leap 15
has alternatives like LXDE. Any chance one of the alternatives (Springdale,
Fermi) would continue with KDE?

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