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Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale

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  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-17 23:14 +0000
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-18 00:12 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 00:58 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 19:29 -0600
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-18 02:00 -0600
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-18 02:08 -0600
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 14:29 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-23 03:49 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 11:22 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:29 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 13:45 +0000
                  NF -- Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-04 03:59 +0000
                    NF -- Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-15 04:31 +0000
                      Re: NF -- Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-15 11:26 +0000
                        Re: NF -- Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-16 04:51 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 20:55 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 16:02 -0500
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 01:14 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-23 03:49 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 11:34 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-23 19:23 +0000
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 20:24 +0000
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:30 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-28 19:16 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-30 05:18 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 02:14 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 00:32 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:41 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 20:49 +0000
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:46 -0600
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:38 -0600
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 15:50 -0600
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:59 -0600
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 22:06 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:09 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:07 +0000
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 18:27 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 19:16 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 20:58 -0600
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 21:11 -0600
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:50 +0000
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:34 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:54 +0000
                                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 07:51 -0600
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:49 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 13:39 +0000
                                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 08:19 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-24 06:10 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-01-25 09:14 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 17:42 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:02 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 19:30 -0600
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 02:14 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 15:54 -0600
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 16:41 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 23:08 +0000
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 23:37 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 06:11 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:04 -0600
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:48 -0600
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 13:33 +0000
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-28 08:23 -0600
                                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 15:43 +0000
                                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
                                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
                                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-29 22:41 -0600
                                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 12:34 +0000
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
                                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 12:26 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-26 03:56 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:09 -0600
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-25 09:49 -0500
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 17:42 +0000
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-25 10:07 -0800
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:51 -0600
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:23 -0600
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 22:43 +0000
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 17:18 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:21 +0000
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-01-25 17:19 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-25 23:21 +0000
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 17:36 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <XxuB8T967dUpoKQ8.R9P892p5GIKabIS11TMpG7N8dpaGh90cjaXByxpT@dont-email.me> - 2019-01-20 22:09 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:14 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-25 16:34 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-25 11:49 -0500
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:02 -0600
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 22:41 +0000
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 17:14 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:08 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:11 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:17 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:16 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-25 20:41 +0100
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 02:02 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-02-15 19:15 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 15:21 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 12:25 +0000
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 02:14 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-03 02:31 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-21 04:51 +0000
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-18 04:18 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 15:01 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-18 09:27 -0600
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-21 04:51 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-20 23:56 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-23 03:49 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-21 12:11 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-23 03:49 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 01:27 -0600
                  OT: .sig.   Was:Re: I just belatedly realized and on and on and on... "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 01:34 -0600
                    Re: OT: .sig.   Was:Re: I just belatedly realized and on and on and on... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-01-23 03:39 -0500
                      Re: OT: .sig.   Was:Re: I just belatedly realized and on and on and on... "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 03:04 -0600
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-23 09:05 +0100
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 02:25 -0600
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-23 10:30 +0100
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 03:40 -0600
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:30 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-28 01:33 -0600
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:30 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-28 11:50 +0100
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-30 05:24 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 02:14 +0000
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-03 08:08 +0000
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 23:26 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-02-04 05:45 +0000
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-08 07:33 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-30 09:04 +0100
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-03 02:14 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:30 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 12:18 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 15:13 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-02-04 03:59 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:17 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:30 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-25 14:49 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-27 20:36 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:30 +0000
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-28 15:27 +0000

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#53041

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-24 23:37 -0600
Message-ID<20190124233758.71f87c73@WizardsTower>
In reply to#53039
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:08:39 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:54:43 -0600
> > "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
> >  
> >> The Dunning/Kruger effect is just that, a psychological EFFECT
> >> which is not graphed or even graph-able.  
> >
> > Such proves not to be the case:
> > https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2017/08/20/the-real-dunning-kruger-graph/
> >  
> 
> So, pretty much, in a given subset of people (say alt.os.linux), the
> lower half of people will overestimate their capacity for $whatever,
> the third quarter will hover on-par with their skill, and the top
> quarter will underestimate.
> 
> Hm, fun stuff.
> 
That would appear to be the case at first sight but I'm pretty sure it
only really applies to 'lay' people.  Any group of non-random folks
better educated to begin with (fans of <anything>, tech groups,
OS-focused groups, train groups, etc.) will have a deviated curve
without the high degree of overconfidence within that knowledge set. 

At least that's what it seems to me it would have to be like, but then
I'm no expert and therefore am very likely to have already
overestimated my own abilities.   ;-}

OTOH, Bubba and his buddies down on the bayou aren't ever gonna
intentionally 'larn anythin' and so will always permanently reside on
the low education, overconfident-about-everything level. You know,
intuitive rocket surgeons. Might I suggest that they might be
MAGA[1]-capped? 

This I know very well because I personally know (well, knew) Bubba and
his buddies down on the bayou.

+1 for fun stuff!

[1] Make Attorneys Get Attorneys

Cybe R. Wizard -has lived in New Orleans and Lafayette, LA
-- 
“Thinking too much leads to paralysis by analysis. It's important to
think things through, but many use thinking as a means of avoiding
action.” 
	Robert Herjavec 
		The Will To Win: Leading, Competing, Succeeding

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#53042

Fromarlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date2019-01-25 06:11 +0000
Message-ID<q2e9b5$god$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#53041
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:37:58 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> That would appear to be the case at first sight but I'm pretty sure it
> only really applies to 'lay' people.
>> https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2017/08/20/the-real-dunning-kruger-graph/

I'm going to risk responding to you Cybe(r) Wizard (& Dan Purgert)
as an adult would - which - I realize - is likely an exercise in futility
(particulary because both of you play silly little semantic games).

The DK effect is a cognitive bias which is why I used 3 categories
to explain the type of responses that you, Diesel, Snit, nospam, etc.,
exhibit.

1. Either you really _are_ that incredibly stupid, or, 
2. Perhaps you're constantly playing silly semantic games for amusement, or
3. You suffer greatly from what I call "left-side" DK effects.

What I meant by "left side" was clear to anyone who _comprehends" the
reputed DK effect, where, on what I call the "left side" (based on actual
skills):
o People with low abilities tend to overestimate their abilities
o And they tend to overestimate what it takes for others to attain their level of ability

On the right side of actual skills:
o People with high abilities tend to underestimate their abilities
o And they tend to underestimate what it takes for others to attain their level of ability

The folks in the middle ... tend to estimate more realistically, 
according to the research papers I read when they first came out.

Notice two things that were consistent in all my posts (oh, shit, I just
realized I'm speaking to you, Cybe R. WIzard, the proven semantic troll),
so I had better say "most" of my posts or even "some" of my posts, just in
case I didn't ALWAYS in every single instance on Usenet say it precisely -
since you Cybe R Wizard play your idiot semantic games incessantly because,
well, because
o Either you really _are_ that incredibly stupid, or,
o You're just incessantly playing your childish semantic games, or, 
o You actually _believe_ what you say - which makes you a left-side DK candidate.

So, notice the two consistent things I stated:
1. I gave THREE possible reasons, only one of which was outright stupidity
2. I always said "left side" when speaking about the DK effect

That's because the DK effect is not based on  stupidity.
It's based on cognitive bias in self-assessment of skills.

Personally, it's my observation (oh shit, I'm dealing with Cybe R Wizard
the ultimate semantic idiot so I have to say that this is my guess, my
observation, my feeling, my assessment, my assumption, etc., since I'm
dealing with Cybe R Wizard who proves incessantly that he is an utter child
when it comes to casual Usenet conversation in that he plays a silly
semantic game which is _all_ he _can_ play - since he never (oh shit,
again, I have to realize I'm talking to Cybe R Wizard, the ultimate
semantic troll, so I have to say "almost never" comprehends the topic at
hand).

Jesus Christ. To even _try_ to converse with semantic trolls like you
proved time and again (scores of times this week alone ... oh shit, I'm
dealing with the ultimate semantic troll Cybe R Wizard, so I can't say
"scores of times" in a casual Usenet conversation because then Cybe R
Wizard will post incessantly that it was only "dozens of times" into
completely non-related threads - even threads I have no part of creating -
since Cybe R Wizard proves time and again to be the ultimate semantic
troll).

It turns out, Cybe R Wizard, it's impossible to talk to you, as if you are
an adult. I just don't have the skill set required to drop down to your
level.

I apologize. I just can't drop to your level and cover every semantic game
your tiny little childish brain can come up with. I just can't.

Suffice to say for "ADULTS" (i.e., not Cybe R Wizard, or Dan Purgert), 
there is a _reason_ I kept distinguishing between THREE different
situations:
1. People who are truly stupid
2. People who are just pulling our leg
3. People who exhibit classic left-side DK cognitive bias

The question is which of those three are people like:
o Snit 
o Char Jackson
o Rene Lamantagne
o Jasen Betts
o Wolf K
o Rudy Weiser
o Jolly Roger
o nospam
o Lewis
o haemactylus
o Alan Baker
o Alan Browne
o Tim Streater
o Dan Purgert
o Cybe R Wizard
o Diesel, Dustin Cook, and a host of other nyms
o etc.

A _classic_ situation is _this_ one by the way, where you have to wonder
whether Snit is (a) incredibly stupid, or (b) pulling our leg, or (c) he
really can't comprehend that he can't comprehend simple facts.

*VIDEO:*
 o <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> 

*USENET:*
o <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0/qSXecrnZAQAJ> 

You tell me.
Is Snit, in that exact situation:
a. Incredibly stupid
b. Just pulling our leg
c. Or does he _really_ believe he showed "signal" strength?

HINT: Look at the Y axis of his graph. 
Snit posted that video in over 400 Usenet posts.
Never _once_ did he even _look_ (or comprehend?) the Y axis.
And neither did Jolly Roger, nospam, or a host of the others on that list!

I can't comprehend such idiocy.
It boggles my mind in fact.

What I wonder is only which of the three they all prove to be:
a. Are they _really_ that incredibly stupid?
b. Or, are they just always making everything up?
c. Or do they really _believe_ what they write?

You tell me after watching that video & reading that (sad) thread.
(It's sad that people are _that_ incredibly wrong - and they don't even
realize it - yet - they post that even after you explain facts to them.)

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#53043

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 07:04 -0600
Message-ID<20190125070411.21aed70c@WizardsTower>
In reply to#53042
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 06:11:50 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> you Cybe R Wizard play your idiot semantic games

It isn't a semantic game to call a liar a liar.  You, sir, are a liar.

Otherwise you would not have claimed to have written over TEN THOUSAND
tutorials or at least one a day, every day (no holidays or weekends
off) for over 27 YEARS.  

That isn't a mistake, it isn't an accident or a semantic game.

That, sir, is an intentional lie.  You, sir, are a liar.  This is not a
semantic game; it is the plain truth for any and all to see in:
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>

Each time you sidestep or ignore the disclosing of your lies you show
yourself to be the lying, duplicitous, and idiotically evil person that
you are.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil.
	Plato

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#53082

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 16:48 -0600
Message-ID<20190125164756.3f160249@WizardsTower>
In reply to#53043
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:42:06 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> Hi Cybe(r) Wizard,
> 
> Notwithstanding the fact that _one_ tutorial, is far more than you've
> contributed, what's amazing is your complete & utter lack of
> comprehension.

I perceive and fully comprehend that it would be almost an impossibility
for one person to have written TEN THOUSAND tutorials as you have
claimed in:
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>

Help me comprehend otherwise by showing us that list.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Comprehension follows perception.
	Philip K. Dick

“Truth is only relative to those that ignore hard evidence.” 
	A.E. Samaan

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#53268

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9E55DD4B851HT1@u0ECeNR06M8rvC48OAE0PoWATk.R71Y3.1XH5k>
In reply to#53043
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> news:q2fhpc$ia6$4@news.mixmin.net
Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:42:06 GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote: 

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:04:11 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> 
>> It isn't a semantic game to call a liar a liar.  You, sir, are a
>> liar. 
> 
> Hi Cybe(r) Wizard,
> 
> Notwithstanding the fact that _one_ tutorial, is far more than
> you've contributed

Not with standing that you haven't got the foggiest idea what Cybe 
has or hasn't written has nothing to do with your prior claims of 
having written ten thousand tutorials for the benefit of the tribal 
knowledge. 

You can easily clear up the misunderstanding you caused by stating 
you were figuratively speaking and not literally. If you comprehended 
the difference, that is.

It's semi obvious though, that you do not. As, instead of clarifying 
what you meant by the statement, you're attempting to distract from 
being called out by stating that one tutorial is far more than cybe 
has contributed, except that you have no actual proof to back that 
statement up, either.

I don't think anyone actually took your statements in the literal 
sense. If anything, they've been giving you a simple and easy way out 
of the lie accusation, by using the proper terminology to describe 
what you were actually doing. 

Think of it as a test, based on curiosity concerning your own 
reading/writing comprehension level. The proper word to use to 
describe your ten thousand tutorial claim is figurative. So much for 
that superior cali education.

Yes, I'm confident you aren't familiar with the words meaning, 
because, had you been, you would have put the matter to rest when it 
was first brought up. Instead, you dance around it, like a small 
child who's been caught, red handed doing something they shouldn't 
have been doing. 

> HINT: You missed all formally published notes - which you can't
> comprehend. 

I was reading multiple layer electronic schematic diagrams before I 
could properly print my name. So, let's drop the comprehend nonsense. 
I comprehend subjects far above your paygrade, just fine.
 
> To wit, you don't even _comprehend_ what I claimed.
> o Far worse ... sadly ... you can't comprehend that you can't
> comprehend. 

Please, use proper grammar when trying to be insulting. It's like 
using a gun with the business end pointed in the wrong direction.

Arlen, my man, you are one of the very reasons warning stickers 
exist. For example, on an anti personal mine, it clearly states which 
side should be facing the enemy. Just in case you aren't smart enough 
to know this, or you didn't pay attention during training. Yes, 
Arlen, people just like you are why those stickers exist. It's a 
security blanket for actual low intelligence persons.

Incidently, those stickers aren't placed on such things if only one 
person fucks up. Multiple people all had to do the same thing for the 
sticker cost to be approved. And that's not restricted to military 
things, either.
 
> You prove me correct in _every_ repetition of your lack of
> comprehension. 

Your statement as provided, untouched by you, isn't logical and 
doesn't make any actual sense. It might as well be random words 
strung together. The end result is the same.
 



-- 
All work and no play, will make you a manager.

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#53282

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-28 13:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq4u14h.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#53268
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Diesel wrote:
> [...]
> I was reading multiple layer electronic schematic diagrams before I 
> could properly print my name. So, let's drop the comprehend nonsense. 
> I comprehend subjects far above your paygrade, just fine.

I bet those get fun.  

>  
>> To wit, you don't even _comprehend_ what I claimed.
>> o Far worse ... sadly ... you can't comprehend that you can't
>> comprehend. 
>
> Please, use proper grammar when trying to be insulting. It's like 
> using a gun with the business end pointed in the wrong direction.

Oh, he's Polish.  This makes SO much more sense now.

>
> Arlen, my man, you are one of the very reasons warning stickers 
> exist. For example, on an anti personal mine, it clearly states which 
> side should be facing the enemy. Just in case you aren't smart enough 
> to know this, or you didn't pay attention during training. Yes, 
> Arlen, people just like you are why those stickers exist. It's a 
> security blanket for actual low intelligence persons.

I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the problem.

Everyone else says I'm a heartless bastard for some reason.


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#53285

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-28 08:23 -0600
Message-ID<20190128082326.3b1a4aa0@WizardsTower>
In reply to#53282
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

[idiot stickers]

> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
> problem.

I agree with that completely.  You may be a BOFH!

> Everyone else says I'm a heartless bastard for some reason.

It may well be your most endearing quality.

Cybe R. Wizard -       ;-]
-- 
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clear".
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#53291

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-28 15:43 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq4u8or.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#53285
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Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>
> [idiot stickers]
>
>> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
>> problem.
>
> I agree with that completely.  You may be a BOFH!

I only put the 208v leg of the 3-phase down the cat-5 that ONE time
when the boss was sucking the bit jam out...


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#53363

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9E6F01B5AE94HT1@1V7NNc6Rrr0.4270tgFchlo8Om7EPe7r.zUJT8aeJ465jg16wu9IM>
In reply to#53291
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> news:slrnq4u8or.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net 
Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:43:23 GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote:

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> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05 -0000 (UTC)
>> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>>
>> [idiot stickers]
>>
>>> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
>>> problem.
>>
>> I agree with that completely.  You may be a BOFH!
> 
> I only put the 208v leg of the 3-phase down the cat-5 that ONE time
> when the boss was sucking the bit jam out...

Well, that gives wildleg an all new meaning then doesn't it... 

 


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#53362

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9E6F01AD5627HT1@1V7NNc6Rrr0.4270tgFchlo8Om7EPe7r.zUJT8aeJ465jg16wu9IM>
In reply to#53285
"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> 
news:20190128082326.3b1a4aa0@WizardsTower Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:23:26 GMT 
in alt.os.linux, wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
> 
> [idiot stickers]
> 
>> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
>> problem.
> 
> I agree with that completely.  You may be a BOFH!

I've been an avid fan of BOFH for a long time.
 
>> Everyone else says I'm a heartless bastard for some reason.
> 
> It may well be your most endearing quality.

Sarcasm suits you well. :)
 


-- 
Bakers trade bread recipes on a kneadtoknow basis.

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#53367

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-29 22:41 -0600
Message-ID<20190129224153.5408451b@WizardsTower>
In reply to#53362
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 04:32:18 -0000 (UTC)
Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> 
> news:20190128082326.3b1a4aa0@WizardsTower Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:23:26
> GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05 -0000 (UTC)
> > Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
> > 
> > [idiot stickers]
> >   
> >> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
> >> problem.  
> > 
> > I agree with that completely.  You may be a BOFH!  
> 
> I've been an avid fan of BOFH for a long time.

Ditto.   ...and Dan is OK, too, I guess.    ;-]
>  
> >> Everyone else says I'm a heartless bastard for some reason.  
> > 
> > It may well be your most endearing quality.  
> 
> Sarcasm suits you well. :)
>  
And it comes with two pair of pants!

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Tell your mother that any clothes she wants to purchase you as a gift
has to be suitable for a job interview. 
	Karen Bender

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#53380

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-30 12:34 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq536er.61d.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#53367
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Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 04:32:18 -0000 (UTC)
> Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> 
>> news:20190128082326.3b1a4aa0@WizardsTower Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:23:26
>> GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote:
>> 
>> > On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05 -0000 (UTC)
>> > Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > [idiot stickers]
>> >   
>> >> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
>> >> problem.  
>> > 
>> > I agree with that completely.  You may be a BOFH!  
>> 
>> I've been an avid fan of BOFH for a long time.
>
> Ditto.   ...and Dan is OK, too, I guess.    ;-]

Well, that's better than the alternative.

>>  
>> >> Everyone else says I'm a heartless bastard for some reason.  
>> > 
>> > It may well be your most endearing quality.  
>> 
>> Sarcasm suits you well. :)
>>  
> And it comes with two pair of pants!

Ugh, that's about as bad of a joke as arlen saying he's one of the
"adults".


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#53361

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2019-01-30 04:32 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9E6F01A624E3HT1@1V7NNc6Rrr0.4270tgFchlo8Om7EPe7r.zUJT8aeJ465jg16wu9IM>
In reply to#53282
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
news:slrnq4u14h.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05
GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote: 

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> Diesel wrote:
>> [...]
>> I was reading multiple layer electronic schematic diagrams before
>> I could properly print my name. So, let's drop the comprehend
>> nonsense. I comprehend subjects far above your paygrade, just
>> fine. 
> 
> I bet those get fun.  

They can. Some, to the point of near insanity. I've spent days on 
some of them. 
 
>> Please, use proper grammar when trying to be insulting. It's like
>> using a gun with the business end pointed in the wrong direction.
> 
> Oh, he's Polish.  This makes SO much more sense now.

ROFL!
 
>> Arlen, my man, you are one of the very reasons warning stickers 
>> exist. For example, on an anti personal mine, it clearly states
>> which side should be facing the enemy. Just in case you aren't
>> smart enough to know this, or you didn't pay attention during
>> training. Yes, Arlen, people just like you are why those stickers
>> exist. It's a security blanket for actual low intelligence
>> persons. 
> 
> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
> problem. 

I'm inclined to agree, but, we're in the minority. Perhaps the risk 
of too many deaths and not enough births to compensate? lol
 
> Everyone else says I'm a heartless bastard for some reason.

I couldn't imagine why. hehehehe.
 

-- 
Anything currently on the market is obsolete.

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#53379

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-30 12:26 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq5360f.61d.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
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Diesel wrote:
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
> news:slrnq4u14h.3u3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:33:05
> GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote: 
>
>> 
>> I still say we should remove them, and let Darwin sort out the
>> problem. 
>
> I'm inclined to agree, but, we're in the minority. Perhaps the risk 
> of too many deaths and not enough births to compensate? lol

Well, if "Idocracy" is any indication, the problem wouldn't be solved
anyway.


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#53096

FromJasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz>
Date2019-01-26 03:56 +0000
Message-ID<q2glq4$u8$1@gonzo.alcatraz>
In reply to#53042
On 2019-01-25, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:37:58 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>
>> That would appear to be the case at first sight but I'm pretty sure it
>> only really applies to 'lay' people.
>>> https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2017/08/20/the-real-dunning-kruger-graph/
>
> I'm going to risk responding to you Cybe(r) Wizard (& Dan Purgert)
> as an adult would 

I got to see this, it should be epic..

> - which - I realize - is likely an exercise in futility
> (particulary because both of you play silly little semantic games).

Childish insults straight off the line.  
Epic fail,  will you ever grop up?

 tldr
 
-- 
  When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.

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#53267

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2019-01-28 05:31 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9E55DCCA05CHT1@u0ECeNR06M8rvC48OAE0PoWATk.R71Y3.1XH5k>
In reply to#53042
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> news:q2e9b5$god$1@news.mixmin.net
Fri, 25 Jan 2019 06:11:50 GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote: 

> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:37:58 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> 
>> That would appear to be the case at first sight but I'm pretty
>> sure it only really applies to 'lay' people.
>>> https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2017/08/20/the-real-dunning-kruger-
>>> graph/ 
> 
> I'm going to risk responding to you Cybe(r) Wizard (& Dan Purgert)
> as an adult would - which - I realize - is likely an exercise in
> futility (particulary because both of you play silly little
> semantic games). 

You aren't starting off so well with your Adult response.
 
> The DK effect is a cognitive bias which is why I used 3 categories
> to explain the type of responses that you, Diesel, Snit, nospam,
> etc., exhibit.

I don't think you're really in a position to make such statements 
concerning any of the people on your list. Armchair usenet psy isn't 
new Arlen. I hope you won't be trying to take credit for it.
 
> o People with low abilities tend to overestimate their abilities
> o And they tend to overestimate what it takes for others to attain
> their level of ability 

I haven't over estimated my abilities Arlen. I have the paperwork and 
easily google track records to verify it.
 
> On the right side of actual skills:
> o People with high abilities tend to underestimate their abilities
> o And they tend to underestimate what it takes for others to
> attain their level of ability 

Guilty as charged. I'm a terrible teacher, so I've been told, 
numerous times. I don't have the patience for it.
 
Based on your own criteria, you fall far to the left hand side, so 
far left infact, you risk bending the needle if it were a gauge.


> It turns out, Cybe R Wizard, it's impossible to talk to you, as if
> you are an adult. I just don't have the skill set required to drop
> down to your level.

Rise upto his level. It's okay, typos happen.
 
> I apologize. I just can't drop to your level and cover every
> semantic game your tiny little childish brain can come up with. I
> just can't. 

Oh, let's be fair Arlen. You can't even get an IDE for programming an 
Android device up and running without extensive hand holding help, 
youtube videos and a pile of googling. That doesn't exactly speak 
praises for your own mental capabilities, or, properly stated, 
limitations.
 

> o Diesel, Dustin Cook, and a host of other nyms

Back to your gullible comment I referenced earlier. This is an 
example of it. I have ONE nym and one real name. Contrary to what the 
Anoncoward states, multiple times, with nothing to back it up, I'm 
not Char Jackson or any of the other posters its claimed I am on more 
than one occasion, and despite it's claims, I've never posted to 
usenet via a remailer or a series of them.

I don't have ANY socks in the digital sense. Had I not done laundry 
last night, I'd have no socks in the literal sense today. lol.

And, prior to Anoncoward doing their best to list all of the handles 
I've used since my lifetime, you knew nothing about any of them, 
because despite your claims, we have not known each other for decades 
on usenet. I wouldn't have forgotten someone like you. You're far too 
fucked up in the head, much like David Brooks for me to have 
forgotten you.

For someone as hungup on proof as you claim, One would think the last 
thing you'd take without a single shred of proof would be anything 
posted by someone who feels it necessary to hide behind one or more 
remailers. Instead, you show that proof is a term you use 
extensively, but don't actually know the words meaning. Your quoted 
words above, along with others quite similiar to them is actual proof 
in the real sense of that, along with your extreme gullibility. Two 
for one. heh.



-- 
'YOU NAAAAASTY MAN!' - Joe Penner

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#53044

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 07:09 -0600
Message-ID<20190125070929.6850fa73@WizardsTower>
In reply to#53037
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 06:32:56 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

Some more stupid lies that no one reads.  <YAWN>

TL;DR

I seldom give any weight to the words of known liars and you, sir, are
a liar as:
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
Clearly shows. 
To attempt to prove otherwise is not only futile, it is an evil fool's
game.


Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil
ways. 
	Buddha

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#53049

Fromarlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date2019-01-25 14:38 +0000
Message-ID<q2f71g$14e$3@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#53044
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:09:56 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> Some more stupid lies that no one reads.

*Yet again, Cybe(r) Wizard, nothing ever comes out of you of adult value.*

In fact, it's lost on you the _only_ people you _can_ communicate on the
same level appear to be a particularly illustrious bunch of similar drivel:
o Jasen Betts, 
o Dan Purgert, 
o Diesel,
o Rene Lamontagne, 
o Wolf K
o & Jolly Roger.

These half-dozen childish drivel communicate well with each other.
I wonder if you even _comprehend_ why you & they understand each other?

HINT: Kids play well together, even when their games are childishly silly.

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#53052

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2019-01-25 09:49 -0500
Message-ID<tmF2E.94550$5h3.1019@fx09.iad>
In reply to#53049
On 2019-01-25 09:38, arlen holder wrote:
[...]
> *Yet again, Cybe(r) Wizard, nothing ever comes out of you of adult value.*
[...]

I suppose you believe that this kind of chiding will have some effect, 
such as teaching us "children" to behave like "adults."

If the above and similar insulting rants indicate how you think an adult 
behaves, then I'm glad you don't think I am one.

-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
People worry that computers will get too smart
and take over the world, but the real problem is
that they’re too stupid and they’ve already taken over
the world (Pedro Domingos)

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#53063

Fromarlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date2019-01-25 17:42 +0000
Message-ID<q2fhpn$ia6$6@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#53052
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:49:59 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

> I suppose you believe that this kind of chiding will have some effect, 
> such as teaching us "children" to behave like "adults."
> 
> If the above and similar insulting rants indicate how you think an adult 
> behaves, then I'm glad you don't think I am one.

Thank you Wolf K for proving my point.
o Yet again, Wolf K, you _completely_ miscomprehend my strategy & tactics.

What's sad is that even when I _explained_ them, in detail, you still
miscomprehend my strategy & tactics.

It's shocking, actually, that people like you actually exist.
1. Either you're really _that_ incredibly stupid, Wolf K., or
2. You're just incessantly playing silly childish games, Wolf K, or, 
3. You really do _believe_ you understood my strategy & tactics.

HINT:
1. My strategy is to get technical answers (I'm not a chit chat poster).
2. My tactics are twofold - only one of which applies to you:
a. For the adults, I respond as a logical adult would respond.
b. For the children, I respond to make it "less fun" for you, Wolf K.

That you _think_ you comprehend my strategy, and yet, you _prove_ 
you don't comprehend a _single_ word I just said, Wolf K, merely 
helps me comprehend how your mind works.

That is...
o No amount of facts _can_ convince you that the lemon juice doesn't work.

Why?
o Because you can't possibly comprehend that you never comprehend.

That! Is my epiphany!

You are very likely so left-side DK, that you can't comprehend anything.
o I don't need to prove that.
o You prove it for me.

*In fact, each of you below proves me right in every one of your post!*
o Alan Baker
o Alan Browne
o BK at OnRamp, 
o Char Jackson
o Dan Purgert
o Diesel
o Dustin Cook
o Good Guy
o Hemidactylus
o Jasen Betts
o John Doe
o Jolly Roger
o Lloyd, 
o Rene Lamantagne
o Rene Lamontagne
o Rudy Weiser
o Savageduck
o Tim Streater
o Wade Garrett
o Wolf K
o Your Name
o et al.

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