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  Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2018-10-11 19:12 -0400
    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan jbm <not@home.ok> - 2018-10-12 23:19 +0100
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-12 22:28 +0000
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-12 18:40 -0500
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-12 20:38 -0500
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-12 21:32 -0500
          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:08 -0400
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:08 -0400
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 10:25 -0400
          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:55 -0400
            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 11:28 -0400
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 11:53 -0400
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 12:29 -0400
                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-13 17:34 +0100
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 14:04 -0400
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-14 00:25 +0100
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-10-14 23:01 +0000
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-15 05:54 +0200
                        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 08:20 -0400
                          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-15 11:22 -0400
                            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 12:09 -0400
                              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-15 11:41 -0500
                            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Gutless Coward" <gutless.coward@clintonemail.com> - 2018-10-16 14:51 +0200
                              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-16 10:17 -0400
                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 15:11 -0400
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-13 16:17 -0400
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-14 00:26 +0100
                        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 08:50 +0200
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-14 09:24 -0400
                        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 22:49 +0200
                          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-14 22:50 +0100
                          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-14 18:06 -0400
                            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-15 00:10 -0400
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-13 05:57 +0100
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-13 00:05 -0500
          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-13 06:19 +0100
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 09:57 -0400
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 07:52 +0200
    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 09:54 -0400
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-13 13:41 -0500
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 10:24 +0200
    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-14 09:33 +0200
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-14 22:33 +0200
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 07:01 +0200
          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-15 08:53 +0200
            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 18:47 +0200
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-16 11:55 +0200
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-16 19:51 +0200
            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-15 18:53 +0200
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 19:38 +0200
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-15 19:48 +0000
                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-15 22:40 +0200
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-16 02:50 +0000
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-16 10:04 -0400
                        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldi@notaserver.com> - 2018-10-16 09:53 -0500
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-16 11:25 +0200
                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-16 20:32 +0200
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-16 20:21 -0500
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-10-17 00:42 -0500
                        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-17 10:56 -0500
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-16 13:04 +0200
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-16 20:33 +0200
    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan shemp14@outlook.com - 2018-10-16 16:02 +0000
      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-17 07:22 +0200
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2018-10-17 10:20 -0400
          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-18 23:25 +0200
            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-18 23:44 +0100
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-10-18 17:48 -0500
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-19 06:55 +0100
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-19 08:58 -0400
                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-10-19 08:24 -0500
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-10-19 10:42 -0400
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-19 12:43 -0400
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-22 00:57 +0200
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-10-22 15:38 +1300
                        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-22 08:19 -0400
                          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-23 14:36 -0500
                          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-27 13:31 +0200
                            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-27 13:20 +0100
                              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-28 02:19 +0200
                                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-28 07:52 +0000
                                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-29 07:41 +0100
                            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-27 12:51 -0500
                        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-10-23 14:14 +0200
                          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-27 14:10 +0200
                            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-27 13:48 +0100
                              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-27 22:56 +0200
                              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-27 23:14 +0200
                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2018-10-19 14:02 -0400
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-20 12:00 -0400
                      Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 18:34 +0200
                    Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan tom <tom@0.0.0.0> - 2019-03-09 15:25 -0800
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 13:24 +0200
                  Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-21 16:30 +0100
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 13:35 +0200
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-12-10 21:56 +1100
            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-19 08:55 -0400
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-18 13:45 -0500
          Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-19 05:15 +0200
            Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-19 22:51 -0500
              Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-21 14:36 +0200
                Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-21 16:33 +0100
        Re: Europe's Internet Censorship Plan "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2018-10-19 09:14 +0200

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#51336

In article <4643d4626e9bae6a0cbc8970d4d6acf4@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> In article <29a7e508b054472a7091002146e1a1df@dizum.com>
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
> >
> > In article <g2il8pFde1U1@mid.individual.net>
> > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > > In article <g2g9pqFg0dmU1@mid.individual.net>
> > > > "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> > > >>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/whats-next-europes-internet-censorship-plan-0
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it.  We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target
> > > >> Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for
> > > >> EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it
> > > >> affects everyone.
> > > >
> > > > I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA.
> > > >
> > > > GDPR is just so much asswipe.
> > >
> > > Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will
> > > are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies
> > > who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR.
> >
> > Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce
> > failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United
> > States.
> >
> > Got it.
> >
> > Jurisdiction and standing.
> >
> > See you in court.
>
> GDPR can be enforced in the EU for any company doing business
> there.  Outside, as a PP stated, it's just so much nanny state
> buttwipe.
>
> On a side note.  Besides google, facebook, twitter and the
> media, it's the people inside the EU who are the problem.  They
> post anything and everything on social media, then expect
> privacy.  Talk about sheeple.

+1

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#51344

On 10/16/18 1:04 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> In article <4643d4626e9bae6a0cbc8970d4d6acf4@dizum.com>
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

> +1

This ain't social media and yes we see you promote your own post.

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#51341

Agreed that the US constitution waqs written by and for the landowners.
Agreed that there will never be a perfect constitution. However, the Bill of
Rights (1st 10 amendments) were ratified shortly thereafter and the
amendments protect the people.

I agreethat is the ultimate goal, however, until civility and mutual
"respect" return to American politics, it will never happen.

Thanks for the conversation, but I'm afraid we are drifting off-subject.
Have a good day,

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#51346

In article <PdqdnRCt1oIQllvGnZ2dnUU7-d_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
shemp14@outlook.com wrote:
>
> Agreed that the US constitution waqs written by and for the landowners.

Landowners are generally responsible intelligent people.  They 
who have the gold should make the rules.

> Agreed that there will never be a perfect constitution. However, the Bill of
> Rights (1st 10 amendments) were ratified shortly thereafter and the
> amendments protect the people.

According to the left, the Bill of Rights is oppressive, racist, 
and discriminates.

> I agreethat is the ultimate goal, however, until civility and mutual
> "respect" return to American politics, it will never happen.

It began with the Clintons and went into high gear with the 
Obamas.

> Thanks for the conversation, but I'm afraid we are drifting off-subject.
> Have a good day,

Kill a Democrat on the way home.

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#51348

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:


>> Agreed that there will never be a perfect constitution. However, the Bill of
>> Rights (1st 10 amendments) were ratified shortly thereafter and the
>> amendments protect the people.
>
>According to the left, the Bill of Rights is oppressive, racist, 
>and discriminates.

Bullshit. I'm a liberal democrat, and I sure as hell don't feel that
way. It seems to me that it's the right-wing Republicans who are
determined to undermine the Bill of Rights. 

>> I agreethat is the ultimate goal, however, until civility and mutual
>> "respect" return to American politics, it will never happen.
>
>It began with the Clintons and went into high gear with the 
>Obamas.

Oh no, not even close. It began with the Gingrich Republicans in the
mid 1990s, and the GOP has gone downhill ever since.

-- 
Tim Slattery
tim <at> risingdove <dot> com

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#51353

In article <q4hesdtu6kuia09p99i1g8ldcp5i5o9hou@4ax.com>
Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> wrote:
>
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>
> >> Agreed that there will never be a perfect constitution. However, the Bill of
> >> Rights (1st 10 amendments) were ratified shortly thereafter and the
> >> amendments protect the people.
> >
> >According to the left, the Bill of Rights is oppressive, racist,
> >and discriminates.
>
> Bullshit. I'm a liberal democrat, and I sure as hell don't feel that
> way. It seems to me that it's the right-wing Republicans who are
> determined to undermine the Bill of Rights.

You must be the single exception to the rule.

How do you feel about Trump's border wall?

> >> I agreethat is the ultimate goal, however, until civility and mutual
> >> "respect" return to American politics, it will never happen.
> >
> >It began with the Clintons and went into high gear with the
> >Obamas.
>
> Oh no, not even close. It began with the Gingrich Republicans in the
> mid 1990s, and the GOP has gone downhill ever since.

Nope.  It began with the snotty lying Democrats of the mid-90's 
and Gingrich gave it right back to those losers in spades.  That 
really pissed them off and they've been seething ever since.

You libs didn't like that so you turned it into a cultural war.

In that aspect you're losing and you're eventually going to be 
wiped off the face of the Earth like any other useless unwanted 
microbe.

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#51354

On 18/10/2018 22:25, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> How do you feel about Trump's border wall?

http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20and%20Politics/BridgesNotWalls.jpg


-- 
To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.

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#51355

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 23:44:23 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.

Here in the US we did t hat.  

We got Trump.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
If every man was a genius, there would be no idiots, and no gauge for
the intelligence of man. 
	Kehlog Albran, "The Profit"

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#51357

On 18/10/2018 23:48, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 23:44:23 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.
> 
> Here in the US we did t hat.
> 
> We got Trump.
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard
> 
 From afar, it looks like

(a) The turkeys voted Democrat

(https://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20and%20Politics/Clitorall_hinny.jpeg)

(b) You havent appreciated the humour and cunning of the Trump.

He is pulling your todgers and showing you all about faux news and how 
the trick is done.

By the time Donald is through no one will believe anything a politician 
says, or they read in the papers,  or see/hear in the media. This is in 
fact the correct position to be in for a mature experienced American.

In the end The Trump is doing you a huge favour. He is not telling you 
what to think, he is indirectly teaching you how to think, and why you 
should think, for yourself.

Political and social indoctrination is all very well and produces a 
stable Left voting population that can be manipulated and controlled for 
the edification of the elites, but it comes at a high price: By 
conditioning the populations to act as though the walled kindergerten 
you have built for them is reality, they are - and you are in the end - 
utterly unable to meet the challenges of history that may arise.

Centralised World Government is a wonderful idea, but who will you trust 
to run it?

And even if they mean well, can they second guess the laws of Nature?

Last night I met the chief aeeodynamicist of Renault Formula one car 
racing team. We discussed the minor differences - less than 1% - that 
separates the winning car from 'tail end charlie' .  'It's all in the 
aero', he said.

'Do you use a lot of computer modelling to arrive at the design?" "No. 
It doesnt work, the Navier Stokes equations even for something as small 
as a car require so much computational power that we have to make 
approximations, and these are not justified  under turbulent flow, so in 
fact we do nearly all our work in the wind tunnel'

'Arent't those equations the same ones that lie behind the models they 
do for Climate Change' I asked.'The ones they are basing global energy 
policy on?'

'I dunno. I hope not'.

......

Beware of Geeks, bearing gifts.

Cui Bono?







-- 
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your 
oppressors."
      - George Orwell

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#51360

On 2018-10-18 6:48 p.m., Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 23:44:23 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.
> 
> Here in the US we did t hat.
> 
> We got Trump.
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard

And now you have the lowest unemployment since 1969 with Latinos and 
Blacks getting the lowest unemployment ever as well as the greatest 
economy the country has ever seen.

Woe is you.


-- 
SilverSlimer

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#51361

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:58:08 -0400
SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:

> And now you have the lowest unemployment since 1969 with Latinos and
> Blacks getting the lowest unemployment ever as well as the greatest
> economy the country has ever seen.

/SOMEONE/ has been drinking the Kool-Aid.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Those who can make you believe absurdities
can make you commit atrocities.
	Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

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#51362

On 2018-10-19 09:24, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:58:08 -0400
> SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> 
>> And now you have the lowest unemployment since 1969 with Latinos and
>> Blacks getting the lowest unemployment ever as well as the greatest
>> economy the country has ever seen.
> 
> /SOMEONE/ has been drinking the Kool-Aid.
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard
> 

Yeah, he has no memory of the 1950s and 60s, when the Western economies 
expanded like crazy. That's why it's the "lowest unemployment rate since 
1969". The rates before that were generally lower. Even in the recession 
of '57 (which caused me an extra couple of weeks of summer-job search) 
it was still only 4.20% (http://www.multpl.com/unemployment/table). NB 
that it rose  in the late 50s to mid-60s, which was a time of rapidly 
expanding workforce as the baby boomers reached school-leaving age, 
which was 14 back then. [1] Business couldn't absorb these new workers 
fast enough.

Reminder: the unemployment rate is based on the number of people looking 
for work, not the whole working-age population.

As the rate of Boomer retirement increases you'll see two countervailing 
effects: a) the shrinking work force will raise  unemployment rates, and 
b) the increasing demand for workers will lower unemployment rates.

In addition, the effects of shifting consumption and trade patterns 
cause differences in local unemployment rates. This is the reason the 
coal miners voted for Trump, not at all surprisingly. It's hard to 
believe that things are going well overall when you lose a well-paying 
job through no fault of your own.

Neither the unemployment rate nor the participation rate can tell you 
which of these effects is greater at any given time. It's merely an 
average number, which hides a lot of details. It answers the hunger for 
a nice, simple fact that explains everything. Like the GDP or the stock 
marker index, it doesn't explain anything. It's a number that needs 
explaining, which begins with unpicking it to reveal the underlying 
data. The only places you'll find that kind of analysis is the boring 
academic journals where economics professors publish their research.

[1] During my teaching career, the school-leaving age was raised from 14 
to 16 to 18. Partly because extended schooling was needed even for 
"entry-level" work as the complexity of work increased; and partly to 
keep the teenagers out of a job market that couldn't use them as more 
and more lower skilled jobs were replaced by machines and customer "self 
service". I'll leave it to you to speculate about which motive ruled.

Best,


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#51363

On 2018-10-19 9:24 a.m., Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:58:08 -0400
> SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> 
>> And now you have the lowest unemployment since 1969 with Latinos and
>> Blacks getting the lowest unemployment ever as well as the greatest
>> economy the country has ever seen.
> 
> /SOMEONE/ has been drinking the Kool-Aid.

/SOMEONE/ called Cybe R. Wizard has become an NPC for believing that 
stating facts is cult-like behaviour.

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#51391

In article <20181019082424.6109f6fd@WizardsTower>
"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:58:08 -0400
> SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>
> > And now you have the lowest unemployment since 1969 with Latinos and
> > Blacks getting the lowest unemployment ever as well as the greatest
> > economy the country has ever seen.
>
> /SOMEONE/ has been drinking the Kool-Aid.

Yeah, you.

People on welfare won't notice the Trump economic boom.

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#51394

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 00:57:16 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>In article <20181019082424.6109f6fd@WizardsTower>
>"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:58:08 -0400
>> SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>
>> > And now you have the lowest unemployment since 1969 with Latinos and
>> > Blacks getting the lowest unemployment ever as well as the greatest
>> > economy the country has ever seen.
>>
>> /SOMEONE/ has been drinking the Kool-Aid.
>
>Yeah, you.
>
>People on welfare won't notice the Trump economic boom.

They won't notice anyone's economic boom.
-- 

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#51400

On 2018-10-21 11:45 p.m., 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
> On 22/10/2018 03:38, Eric Stevens wrote:
>> Yeah, you.
>>
>> People on welfare won't notice the Trump economic boom.
>> They won't notice anyone's economic boom.
> 
> 
> Why are these people on Welfare in the first place?  are they physically 
> mentally disabled?  All abled bodied should be able to find a job.  they 
> may not like it because they want to be a rocket scientist or president 
> of the US but for that they need to have special qualities.
> 
> Refugees from all over the world are able to find jobs without proper 
> education or language skills but white Americans, or white Europeans or 
> white Australians can't.  That's shocking.
> 
> Welfare should be limited to just first 6 months of claim after that 
> they should be forced to work for their welfare rights even if that 
> means they have to clean toilets.  We can't keep relying on migrant 
> workers to do low skilled work.  We don't have colonies any more. The 
> balance of economic power is shifting towards China, India and Africa.

Completely agreed with you on all points. If ever I've lost a job in my 
life, I always did whatever I could to find another one quickly even 
when I lived at home and was otherwise comfortable. I can't imagine what 
excuse people might have for staying home and sucking on the taxpayer's 
teet.


-- 
SilverSlimer

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#51414

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:19:40 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; "SilverSlimer
<silver@slim.er>" determined that the following was of great importance
and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<tfjzD.238185$nH2.7983@fx26.iad>:
 
>On 2018-10-21 11:45 p.m., 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
>>On 22/10/2018 03:38, Eric Stevens wrote:
>>>Yeah, you. People on welfare won't notice the Trump economic boom. They 
>>>won't notice anyone's economic boom.
>>Why are these people on Welfare in the first place?  are they
>>physically mentally disabled?  All abled bodied should be able to find
>>a job.  they may not like it because they want to be a rocket
>>scientist or president of the US but for that they need to have special
>>qualities. Refugees from all over the world are able to find jobs
>>without proper education or language skills but white Americans, or
>>white Europeans or white Australians can't.  That's shocking. Welfare 
>>should be limited to just first 6 months of claim after that they should
>>be forced to work for their welfare rights even if that means they have
>>to clean toilets.  We can't keep relying on migrant workers to do low 
>>skilled work.  We don't have colonies any more. The balance of economic
>>power is shifting towards China, India and Africa.
>
>Completely agreed with you on all points. If ever I've lost a job in my 
>life, I always did whatever I could to find another one quickly even
>when I lived at home and was otherwise comfortable. I can't imagine
>what excuse people might have for staying home and sucking on the
>taxpayer's teet.

did you get fired many times for exercising your free speech rights?

LMAO

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#51417

In article <tfjzD.238185$nH2.7983@fx26.iad>
SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>
> On 2018-10-21 11:45 p.m., 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
> > On 22/10/2018 03:38, Eric Stevens wrote:
> >> Yeah, you.
> >>
> >> People on welfare won't notice the Trump economic boom.
> >> They won't notice anyone's economic boom.
> >
> >
> > Why are these people on Welfare in the first place?  are they physically
> > mentally disabled?  All abled bodied should be able to find a job.  they
> > may not like it because they want to be a rocket scientist or president
> > of the US but for that they need to have special qualities.
> >
> > Refugees from all over the world are able to find jobs without proper
> > education or language skills but white Americans, or white Europeans or
> > white Australians can't.  That's shocking.
> >
> > Welfare should be limited to just first 6 months of claim after that
> > they should be forced to work for their welfare rights even if that
> > means they have to clean toilets.  We can't keep relying on migrant
> > workers to do low skilled work.  We don't have colonies any more. The
> > balance of economic power is shifting towards China, India and Africa.
>
> Completely agreed with you on all points. If ever I've lost a job in my
> life, I always did whatever I could to find another one quickly even
> when I lived at home and was otherwise comfortable. I can't imagine what
> excuse people might have for staying home and sucking on the taxpayer's
> teet.

The scam is disability.  Unemployment won't pay for the drugs 
and alcohol.

A slut with a kid can sit home on disability, draw an allowance 
for the kid until age 18 - and get the guy fucking her worthless 
drugged up ass paid for taking care of her up to $3,948.00 per 
month.

Is America a great place or what?

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#51418

On 27/10/2018 12:31, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> In article <tfjzD.238185$nH2.7983@fx26.iad>
> SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-10-21 11:45 p.m., 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2018 03:38, Eric Stevens wrote:
>>>> Yeah, you.
>>>>
>>>> People on welfare won't notice the Trump economic boom.
>>>> They won't notice anyone's economic boom.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why are these people on Welfare in the first place?  are they physically
>>> mentally disabled?  All abled bodied should be able to find a job.  they
>>> may not like it because they want to be a rocket scientist or president
>>> of the US but for that they need to have special qualities.
>>>
>>> Refugees from all over the world are able to find jobs without proper
>>> education or language skills but white Americans, or white Europeans or
>>> white Australians can't.  That's shocking.
>>>
>>> Welfare should be limited to just first 6 months of claim after that
>>> they should be forced to work for their welfare rights even if that
>>> means they have to clean toilets.  We can't keep relying on migrant
>>> workers to do low skilled work.  We don't have colonies any more. The
>>> balance of economic power is shifting towards China, India and Africa.
>>
>> Completely agreed with you on all points. If ever I've lost a job in my
>> life, I always did whatever I could to find another one quickly even
>> when I lived at home and was otherwise comfortable. I can't imagine what
>> excuse people might have for staying home and sucking on the taxpayer's
>> teet.
> 
> The scam is disability.  Unemployment won't pay for the drugs
> and alcohol.
> 
> A slut with a kid can sit home on disability, draw an allowance
> for the kid until age 18 - and get the guy fucking her worthless
> drugged up ass paid for taking care of her up to $3,948.00 per
> month.
> 
> Is America a great place or what?
> 
Yeah. Tax the kids, dont subsidise them. Tax kids of immigrants double,

Pro lifers should adopt a neibhorhood junkie babby, pay the tax 
themselves or STFU.

Hey Donald, how about hiring me?




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#51424

In article <pr1l5g$mu8$5@dont-email.me>
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> On 27/10/2018 12:31, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > In article <tfjzD.238185$nH2.7983@fx26.iad>
> > SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2018-10-21 11:45 p.m., 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
> >>> On 22/10/2018 03:38, Eric Stevens wrote:
> >>>> Yeah, you.
> >>>>
> >>>> People on welfare won't notice the Trump economic boom.
> >>>> They won't notice anyone's economic boom.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Why are these people on Welfare in the first place?  are they physically
> >>> mentally disabled?  All abled bodied should be able to find a job.  they
> >>> may not like it because they want to be a rocket scientist or president
> >>> of the US but for that they need to have special qualities.
> >>>
> >>> Refugees from all over the world are able to find jobs without proper
> >>> education or language skills but white Americans, or white Europeans or
> >>> white Australians can't.  That's shocking.
> >>>
> >>> Welfare should be limited to just first 6 months of claim after that
> >>> they should be forced to work for their welfare rights even if that
> >>> means they have to clean toilets.  We can't keep relying on migrant
> >>> workers to do low skilled work.  We don't have colonies any more. The
> >>> balance of economic power is shifting towards China, India and Africa.
> >>
> >> Completely agreed with you on all points. If ever I've lost a job in my
> >> life, I always did whatever I could to find another one quickly even
> >> when I lived at home and was otherwise comfortable. I can't imagine what
> >> excuse people might have for staying home and sucking on the taxpayer's
> >> teet.
> >
> > The scam is disability.  Unemployment won't pay for the drugs
> > and alcohol.
> >
> > A slut with a kid can sit home on disability, draw an allowance
> > for the kid until age 18 - and get the guy fucking her worthless
> > drugged up ass paid for taking care of her up to $3,948.00 per
> > month.
> >
> > Is America a great place or what?
> >
> Yeah. Tax the kids, dont subsidise them. Tax kids of immigrants double,
>
> Pro lifers should adopt a neibhorhood junkie babby, pay the tax
> themselves or STFU.

Legalize gay child prostitution like the Democrats want.  Make 
some money.

> Hey Donald, how about hiring me?

Obama hires the gay child molesters.

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