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  The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:14 -0700
      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 03:19 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 11:49 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 19:48 -0700
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 03:50 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 21:13 -0700
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:02 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:05 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 23:46 -0700
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 16:18 +0000
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 09:27 -0700
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 03:58 -0400
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:24 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:13 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 14:49 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:28 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-05 11:07 +0000
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-31 05:51 +0000
    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:40 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:52 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 09:52 -0400
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:53 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:01 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:34 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 17:57 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0500
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500
                        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000
                          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 22:02 +0000
                          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 22:30 +0000
                            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 18:10 -0500
                              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-29 02:03 +0000
                                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 21:43 -0500
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700

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#50943 — The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1

The fantastically brilliant free YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New
Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 on September 8th, but it took a while for
the F-Droid and GitHub sites to catch up with the updated code:
<https://newpipe.schabi.org/blog/release/pinned/announcement/newpipe-0.14.1-released/>

For Windows, Linux, & Mac users, here's the updated youtube-dl app:
<https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/>

This power is available on all platforms but iOS (as is always the case).

As most of you are aware, this is a fantastically brilliant perfectly legal
privacy on steroids version of the YouTube app (as always, it's not
available on iOS) for Android (New Pipe), with a related, somewhat less
functional app for Windows, Linux, and Mac (youtube-dl) which was updated
very recently due to unilateral changes on the YouTube web site.

This NewPipe App:
* views and watches video
* using the same type of interface as the youtube app
* but without every having to log in
* and without every being spied upon by Google
* and without ever seeing any ads whatsoever at any time

In addition, it:
* downloads videos without you ever needing to agree to Google TOS
* strips off the audio, if that's what you want
* subscribes, without ever logging in, if that's what you want
* uses any player you want (it has its own player also)

The version you need on Android is 0.14.1
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Do not use 0.14.0 as that was working fine, for two years, until YouTube
changed its web site recently. 

You can also get the software on GitHub:

Note that the features list is longer than I noted, and, please comprehend
that all these features come without you ever needing to, or agreeing to
any TOS by Google, and without any spying by Google on your activities.

Unfortunately, as always, this power is not available on iOS, while it does
exist on all other common consumer platforms, the Android app is, by far,
the most powerful, flexible, and functional.

----------------- cut here for the official feature list ---------------
All these features come sans Google logins, spying, or agreeing to their
TOS:
* Search videos
* Display general information about a video
* Watch YouTube videos
* Listen to YouTube videos
* Popup mode (floating player)
* Select the streaming player to watch the video with
* Download videos
* Download audio only
* Open a video in Kodi
* Show Next/Related videos
* Search YouTube in a specific language
* Watch/Block age restricted material
* Display general information about channels
* Search channels
* Watch videos from a channel
* Orbot/Tor support (not yet directly)
* 1080p/2k/4k support
* View history
* Subscribe to channels
* Search history
* Search/Watch Playlists
* Watch as queues Playlists
* Queuing videos
* Local playlists
* Subtitles
* Multi-service support (eg. SoundCloud

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#50946

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:56:02 -0000 (UTC)
"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> The fantastically brilliant free YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl &
> New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 on September 8th, but it took a
> while for the F-Droid and GitHub sites to catch up with the updated
> code:
> <https://newpipe.schabi.org/blog/release/pinned/announcement/newpipe-0.14.1-released/>

If you like NewPipe, you may also like SkyTube (also open source). The
advantage of SkyTube is that if you subscribe to various channels
(really, you're just kind of bookmarking them, because you're not
logged in), SkyTube creates a lengthy feed from all of your subscribed
channels with multiple videos from each channel. NewPipe only adds the
last video released on each subscribed channel to your feed. I like
having more to browse. 

SkyTube website: http://skytube-app.com/
SkyTube at F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/

You can download the app from either location.

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#50947

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:14:34 -0700, visiblink wrote:

> If you like NewPipe, you may also like SkyTube (also open source).
> SkyTube website: http://skytube-app.com/
> SkyTube at F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/

Thank you for *improving* our combined tribal knowledge, which is what
Usenet is supposed to be about (which it would be if it weren't for the
incessant worthless trolls who never add any value).
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5006767vid.jpg>

I've been heralding both youtube-dl on Linux/Windows/Mac and NewPipe on
Android for years (and even asking if anything on iOS even comes close),
where SkyTube has never come up even once on all those threads over the
past couple of years).
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2314140clone.jpg>

From asking on the desktop-os groups, there's nothing that even comes close
to the functionality of New Pipe on the three common consumer desktops:
 <http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux>
 <http://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-apps>
 <http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com>

Unfortunately, the fact is that there's no app funcdtionality on iOS (all
by itself) that isn't already long ago on Android, and yet, as in this case
yet again, there is so much app functionality on Android that is not on iOS
that it's kind of sad - so iOS is just out of the question when it comes to
such NewPipe/SkyPipe privacy-based ad-free youtube-viewing & downloading
functionality.
 <http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad>
 <http://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone>

What's _great_ about your suggestion is that, even after two years of
promoting these great tools, AFAICR, nobody brought up SkyPipe before,
which I've now installed (version 2.82) on a few Android devices to test
out, thanks to your recommendation.

While you seem to be aware of the *power* and *flexibility* and *inherent
privacy* of these apps, rest assured that most people seem to think in
terms of "browsers" and "adblockers", which, well, which is just insane by
way of comparison.

I see you've characterized "Sky Tube" as having a better (also
privacy-based) subscription model than does New Pipe, which, would be
useful to me because I subscribe to all the common Physics channels (e.g.,
those containing lectures by Richard Feynman, Leonard Susskind, Walter
Lewin, Ramamurti Shankar, etc.) which often occur in series.

I also frequently strip out the audio, since the audio is all you often
need in a lecture format video (depending on how deeply you want to ponder
the math).

Hence it's nice to have choices of no-advertisement privacy-based youtube
apps, where your suggestion of Sky Pipe is much appreciated.

Here is a composite screenshot of the GUI difference between the two.
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9801813newpipevsskytube.jpg>

Since this thread contains the desktop folks, we should mention that if
they already have the youtube-dl code, then they should only need to run
the convenient "--update" switch, as shown below, to get the new code:
  $ youtube-dl --update

In addition, if desktop users wish to strip out audio in MP3 format, only
recently has the patent expired in the USA (it expired earlier in Europe),
where you no longer have to obtain the MP3 encoders separately (AFAIK).

In summary, THANK YOU for improving our overall tribal knowledge by adding
technical value with every post ... which is how Usenet should be when good
people communicate like adults.

-- 
I'll test SkyPipe & post my observations separately on the Android ng.

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#50948

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 03:19:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> Here is a composite screenshot of the GUI difference between the two.
>  <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9801813newpipevsskytube.jpg>

For "visiblink" (or anyone else who tested these two absolutely ground
breakingly fantastically powerful privacy enhancing apps recently)...

SkyTube website: http://skytube-app.com/
SkyTube at F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/

NewPipe website: https://newpipe.schabi.org/
NewPipe at F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

I tested both open source apps yesterday, where New Pipe worked perfectly
again (it was crashing for a while because YouTube unilaterally changed
their public API apparently).

But Sky Tube kept crashing.

Does Sky Tube work for you currently?
(Or do we need to wait for a fix?)

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#50954

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:49:19 -0000 (UTC)
"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> I tested both open source apps yesterday, where New Pipe worked
> perfectly again (it was crashing for a while because YouTube
> unilaterally changed their public API apparently).
> 
> But Sky Tube kept crashing.
> 
> Does Sky Tube work for you currently?
> (Or do we need to wait for a fix?)

SkyTube does work for me without crashing. I just watched a 14 minute
video without any trouble.

If it's of any help (since sometimes problems seem to be device or
version-specific), I'm on a Xiaomi Mi A1 running Android 8.1 (August
update).

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#50955

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:48:55 -0700, visiblink wrote:

> SkyTube does work for me without crashing. I just watched a 14 minute
> video without any trouble.
> 
> If it's of any help (since sometimes problems seem to be device or
> version-specific), I'm on a Xiaomi Mi A1 running Android 8.1 (August
> update).

Thanks for that confirmation and your depiction of hardware.
I'm on a $130 64GB LG Stylo 3 Plus, version 7.0, Nougat.
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ls71mnkj4jk/n0FaH2e_DQAJ>

Sky Tube crashes every time for me with the error "Video Playback Error",
"An error has occurred while retrieving videos's streams" [sic]

It might be nice to see if others are having the same crashes I'm getting.

Luckily, New Pipe works fine every time, so I'm OK on Android.
Also, luckily, on Linux/Windows (and presumably Mac), youtube-dl works now.

I simply updated my youtube-dl by running this command:
 $ youtube-dl --update

The nice thing about all of these is that they download anything you want,
where the youtube-dl code works on almost any web site that hosts videos,
and where the NewPipe/SkyPipe apps have _zero_ ads and _full_ privacy.

What could be better?

I just wish that iOS would have 1/10th the app functionality of Android,
but iOS fails in app functionality every time you try even something
simple, like privately watching & easily downloading YouTube & stripping
out the audio using a single app like NewPipe (or SkyTube).

-- 
HINT: Anyone using either the youtube site or their app, is likely ignorant
of what's really out there that works so much better it's not funny.

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#50956

On 2018-09-26 8:50 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:48:55 -0700, visiblink wrote:
> 
>> SkyTube does work for me without crashing. I just watched a 14 minute
>> video without any trouble.
>>
>> If it's of any help (since sometimes problems seem to be device or
>> version-specific), I'm on a Xiaomi Mi A1 running Android 8.1 (August
>> update).
> 
> Thanks for that confirmation and your depiction of hardware.
> I'm on a $130 64GB LG Stylo 3 Plus, version 7.0, Nougat.
>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ls71mnkj4jk/n0FaH2e_DQAJ>
> 
> Sky Tube crashes every time for me with the error "Video Playback Error",
> "An error has occurred while retrieving videos's streams" [sic]
> 
> It might be nice to see if others are having the same crashes I'm getting.
> 
> Luckily, New Pipe works fine every time, so I'm OK on Android.
> Also, luckily, on Linux/Windows (and presumably Mac), youtube-dl works now.
> 
> I simply updated my youtube-dl by running this command:
>   $ youtube-dl --update
> 
> The nice thing about all of these is that they download anything you want,
> where the youtube-dl code works on almost any web site that hosts videos,
> and where the NewPipe/SkyPipe apps have _zero_ ads and _full_ privacy.
> 
> What could be better?
> 
> I just wish that iOS would have 1/10th the app functionality of Android,
> but iOS fails in app functionality every time you try even something
> simple, like privately watching & easily downloading YouTube & stripping
> out the audio using a single app like NewPipe (or SkyTube).
> 

<https://www.google.ca/search?q=document+readdle+youtube+videos&oq=document+readdle+youtube+videos&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i60l3j0.9468j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>

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#50959

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:13:24 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

> <https://www.google.ca/search?q=document+readdle+youtube+videos&oq=document+readdle+youtube+videos&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i60l3j0.9468j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>

Alan Baker, we know you well, from the Mac groups.
You're a child.

*You can't even _comprehend_ what it is you searched for.*

It's a fact you and Tim Streater are the two _dumbest_ Apple posters.
So, having you puke up a Google URL is, indeed, humorous, as it always is
whenever you two post your childish antics.

*You prove you have the mind of a child, Alan Baker, every time you post.*
You can't possibly even comprehend anything you're search unearthed.

I think that's kind of funny ... don't you Alan Baker?

The fact is twofold:
a. There is nothing by way of app functionality on iOS that isn't already
on Android (we've proven this many times), and, worse,

b. There is plenty of app functionality on Android that will never be on
iOS.

The reasons for this are quite logical, even though Apple Apologists like
you, Alan Baker, and Tim Streater, will never comprehend adult logic.

1. Apple hardware is about the same as Android hardware, so it's not the
hardware that severely limits what iOS mobile devices can do.
2. Apple themselves, severely restricts what apps can do, while Google does
not restrict what Android devices can do.

Hence, it's only natural and perfectly logical that 
a. Android does everything in terms of app functionality, that iOS can,
and, 
b. Android does far more in terms of app functionality than iOS can ever
hope to do.

For example, iOS can't even display graphical wifi signal strength over
time for all nearby access points for heaven's sake, nor can iOS load IPA
installers from any site, nor can iOS save all IPA files to the local
device for use on other devices like Android does with APKs, nor can iOS
change its launcher, nor can you even organize your iOS desktop the way you
want it organized, nor can iOS torrent or automatically record phone calls,
nor can iOS even list the apps installed for heaven's sake, into an
editable file without having to put that information on a desktop in order
to do something that simple for heaven's sake.

The only ones who don't realize iOS is brain dead, are the iOS users
themselves, which, you have to admit, is kind of humorous. 

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#50960

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:02:07 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> You can't possibly even comprehend anything you're search unearthed.

Before the child-like Apple Apologist Alan Baker has a field day on my
typo, I admit the faux pas, above, and retype it below, sans error...

*You can't possibly even comprehend anything your search unearthed.*

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#50961

On 2018-09-26 11:02 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:13:24 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> <https://www.google.ca/search?q=document+readdle+youtube+videos&oq=document+readdle+youtube+videos&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i60l3j0.9468j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>
> 
> Alan Baker, we know you well, from the Mac groups.
> You're a child.

Really?

I note that not a single thing you write below addresses the fact that 
the thing you said was impossible (that you have now snippped; 
shocker!): that iOS can't capture YouTube video...

...isn't exactly as impossible as you said.

I note that you try to change the subject multiple times...

...but you can't address the subject you started.

(Yes: I'm leaving everything you added to show that what I say is true. 
You—of course—will now snip it all)

> 
> *You can't even _comprehend_ what it is you searched for.*
> 
> It's a fact you and Tim Streater are the two _dumbest_ Apple posters.
> So, having you puke up a Google URL is, indeed, humorous, as it always is
> whenever you two post your childish antics.
> 
> *You prove you have the mind of a child, Alan Baker, every time you post.*
> You can't possibly even comprehend anything you're search unearthed.
> 
> I think that's kind of funny ... don't you Alan Baker?
> 
> The fact is twofold:
> a. There is nothing by way of app functionality on iOS that isn't already
> on Android (we've proven this many times), and, worse,
> 
> b. There is plenty of app functionality on Android that will never be on
> iOS.
> 
> The reasons for this are quite logical, even though Apple Apologists like
> you, Alan Baker, and Tim Streater, will never comprehend adult logic.
> 
> 1. Apple hardware is about the same as Android hardware, so it's not the
> hardware that severely limits what iOS mobile devices can do.
> 2. Apple themselves, severely restricts what apps can do, while Google does
> not restrict what Android devices can do.
> 
> Hence, it's only natural and perfectly logical that
> a. Android does everything in terms of app functionality, that iOS can,
> and,
> b. Android does far more in terms of app functionality than iOS can ever
> hope to do.
> 
> For example, iOS can't even display graphical wifi signal strength over
> time for all nearby access points for heaven's sake, nor can iOS load IPA
> installers from any site, nor can iOS save all IPA files to the local
> device for use on other devices like Android does with APKs, nor can iOS
> change its launcher, nor can you even organize your iOS desktop the way you
> want it organized, nor can iOS torrent or automatically record phone calls,
> nor can iOS even list the apps installed for heaven's sake, into an
> editable file without having to put that information on a desktop in order
> to do something that simple for heaven's sake.
> 
> The only ones who don't realize iOS is brain dead, are the iOS users
> themselves, which, you have to admit, is kind of humorous.
> 

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#50982

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:46:37 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

> I note that not a single thing you write below addresses the fact that 
> the thing you said was impossible (that you have now snippped; 
> shocker!): that iOS can't capture YouTube video...

Alan Baker,

This isn't my first rodeo with you fact-free Apple Apologists.
You've proven, time and again, facts have no place in your belief system.

In addition, you are well known as a canonical Apple Apologist on Mac ngs.
Hence, I will be brief with you since you prove to own the mind of a child.

The one thing you child-like Apple Apologists hate, Alan Baker, are facts.
You have no defense against actual facts.

Hence, I supply valid verifiable facts for your childish mind to ponder.

 What free iOS app downloads video & rips audio from YouTube? 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/Sa27Y5JRvLE/jBAAk-7mCAAJ>

 Why doesn't iOS have a single free app that completely replaces the YouTube app entirely (with far more powerful functionality)?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GSy2yOsVg68/0oeJY1GXAwAJ>

 Nospam posted just now that New Pipe YouTube "red" functionality exists on iOS
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/DkZPV7thX8k/ULqj14ruAAAJ>

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#50983

On 2018-09-27 9:18 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:46:37 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:
> 
>> I note that not a single thing you write below addresses the fact that
>> the thing you said was impossible (that you have now snippped;
>> shocker!): that iOS can't capture YouTube video...
> 
> Alan Baker,
> 
> This isn't my first rodeo with you fact-free Apple Apologists.
> You've proven, time and again, facts have no place in your belief system.

I provided facts...

..twice.

You chose to snip them.

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#50965

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
news:pohk1k$o5n$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 03:50:13 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:48:55 -0700, visiblink wrote:
> 
>> SkyTube does work for me without crashing. I just watched a 14
>> minute video without any trouble.
>> 
>> If it's of any help (since sometimes problems seem to be device
>> or version-specific), I'm on a Xiaomi Mi A1 running Android 8.1
>> (August update).
> 
> Thanks for that confirmation and your depiction of hardware.
> I'm on a $130 64GB LG Stylo 3 Plus, version 7.0, Nougat.
>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ls71mnkj4jk/n
>  0FaH2e_DQAJ> 
> 
> Sky Tube crashes every time for me with the error "Video Playback
> Error", "An error has occurred while retrieving videos's streams"
> [sic] 

NO crash here. on An LG LGL52V (nothing special) Android 5.1.1, 
Kernel 3.10.49

No crash on Samsung device (I can't be arsed to get the make/model 
rofl), running Andriod 6.0.1. 

Crash on generic Android tablet, same reported error as what you 
indicated, but digging a little deeper (thats where being a 
technician (certified no less) with over 20 years in the field comes 
in handy) isn't really the problem. Atleast, not on that device. 
Fifteen minutes later, with a little bit of file editing, It's 
working.

I'll remind you that you called me a moron, and, if I'm not mistaken 
a troll in another thread recently, so, put your tribal knowledge to 
work and get it running on your Android device, yourself. Since mine 
is working now, despite originally showing me the same error message 
you reported, I know something you don't know. [g] 

I'll help you a little bit though, to show there's no real hard 
feelings here. The error message you're getting is very misleading. I 
personally am inclined to blame google for that one.

Also, before you get too involved in fixing it, I'm going to tell 
you, the fix I applied is most likely NOT universal. I believe the 
fix is going to be a system specific one, and not possible to perform 
on all devices. I'll know more in a couple of days. I've got two more 
Android devices that are crashing out with it, different 
manufacturers, but one is sharing the same 'version' as one of my 
devices which runs it without problem.

We'll see if the fix works for the other two - I doubt it'll be 
identical, but I suspect the principle behind what I did is going to 
be the same.
 
> It might be nice to see if others are having the same crashes I'm
> getting. 

Yes, depending on the Android device in question. I've no doubt. I 
was able to duplicate your crash issue with three devices here.
 
> Luckily, New Pipe works fine every time, so I'm OK on Android.
> Also, luckily, on Linux/Windows (and presumably Mac), youtube-dl
> works now. 

Alas, you're mistaken again. NewPipe works every time, FOR YOU. I 
have ONE Android device that is not playing nicely with it. Infact, 
It crashes with the same error you previously mentioned, BUT, runs 
youtube-dl fine.
 
> I simply updated my youtube-dl by running this command:
>  $ youtube-dl --update

I haven't bothered to do so yet. As you can see from the copy/paste 
of one of my linux box consoles, updating isn't necessary. The 
version I'm running still does its thing, just fine.

gremlin@Trex:~/Ytubevideos > youtube-dl 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y1e_ASbSIE
[youtube] 1y1e_ASbSIE: Downloading webpage
[youtube] 1y1e_ASbSIE: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] 1y1e_ASbSIE: Extracting video information
WARNING: Your copy of avconv is outdated and unable to properly mux 
separate video and audio files, youtube-dl will download single file 
media. Update avconv to version 10-0 or newer to fix this.
[download] Destination: The United States (USA) vs The World - Who 
Would Win Military _ Army Comparison-1y1e_ASbSIE.mp4
[download] 100% of 72.55MiB in 00:07
gremlin@Trex:~/Ytubevideos > youtube-dl -v
[debug] System config: []
[debug] User config: []
[debug] Custom config: []
[debug] Command-line args: [u'-v']
[debug] Encodings: locale UTF-8, fs UTF-8, out UTF-8, pref UTF-8
[debug] youtube-dl version 2018.05.09
[debug] Python version 2.7.6 (CPython) - Linux-3.19.0-32-generic-x86_
64-with-LinuxMint-17.3-rosa
[debug] exe versions: avconv 9.20-6, avprobe 9.20-6
[debug] Proxy map: {}
Usage: youtube-dl [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]

youtube-dl: error: You must provide at least one URL.
Type youtube-dl --help to see a list of all options.
gremlin@Trex:~/Ytubevideos > 

I make sure i'm in the appropriate location before I initiate the 
command via terminal.
 
> The nice thing about all of these is that they download anything
> you want, where the youtube-dl code works on almost any web site
> that hosts videos, and where the NewPipe/SkyPipe apps have _zero_
> ads and _full_ privacy. 

I haven't run into any problems using youtube-dl. When/if I do, I'll 
checkout other options. I have no ad issues using youtube-dl and it 
'protects' my privacy as well as the other options you've listed.
 
> I just wish that iOS would have 1/10th the app functionality of
> Android, but iOS fails in app functionality every time you try
> even something simple, like privately watching & easily
> downloading YouTube & stripping out the audio using a single app
> like NewPipe (or SkyTube). 

I'm not an Apple person, but, I strongly suspect many well versed 
Apple people would not only strong disagree with you, but list 
various Apple friendly alternatives.
 



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#50966

In article
<XnsA96A284EAD6C8HT1@80115zn8tpnRq7VX8xDG1Gc5.9Z03hRp7R2FZBx.H8cWbp497P8
27rPW53o1u>, Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> > I just wish that iOS would have 1/10th the app functionality of
> > Android, but iOS fails in app functionality every time you try
> > even something simple, like privately watching & easily
> > downloading YouTube & stripping out the audio using a single app
> > like NewPipe (or SkyTube). 
> 
> I'm not an Apple person, but, I strongly suspect many well versed 
> Apple people would not only strong disagree with you, but list 
> various Apple friendly alternatives.

they have. he refuses to acknowledge their existence.

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#50976

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 03:58:05 -0400, nospam wrote:

> they have. he refuses to acknowledge their existence.

This isn't my first rodeo with the Apple Apologists like you, nospam.
I've studied you Apple Apologists for decades, so I know you well.
  What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup? 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/veU8FwAjBQAJ>

You, nospam, are the canonical epitome of the Apple Apologist.
You just guess. 
And, since you justg guess, you're almost always wrong.

Like you were just now.
The fact is that I've _always_ said there are a couple of intelligent
non-child-like Apple posters, e.g., David Empson _always_ is tops on that
list.

I've also not called 'sms' an Apple Apologist, since he is clearly well
educated where most of the time, what he writes makes sense.

And just last week, I not only said David Empson is the smartest guy on the
Apple newsgroups, but also Wolffan wrote a surprisingly astute analysis of
the cross-platform situation, where I commended him for acting like an
adult.

Most of the Apple Apologists, such as you, nospam, Jolly Roger, Lewis,
BK@OnRamp, Alan Baker, Tim Streater, Chris, and that whiny crybaby "joe",
can only cry like babies when you need to deal with the real world.

Why?
I don't know why.

One thing you prove, time and again, is that you live in a world of almost
incomprehensibly paralyzing inordinate abject *fear*. 

In fact, every time Android shows it can do things that iOS can't do, you
complain that it's scary what Android can do - where you feel much safer on
the admittedly Orwellian restricted iOS platform.

The Mac users are similar, albeit not as paralyzingly afraid as the iOS
users appear to be, but, as "joe" proved just last week, the moment the Mac
users encounter even the slightest bit of complication, just like the iOS
users, they "just give up". 

HINT: "joe" cried like a baby about the need for a trivial command like:
      $ sudo apt-get install x

While the Mac users cry like babies the split second they have to stray
from what Apple Marketing gave them (they're on Macs for a reason), the iOS
users are, for the most part, simply ignorant that iOS can't do what
Android can easily do.

You always say otherwise - but - get this - you can never prove a single
statement you make.

You just make it up.

You, nospam, have a long sordid history of just making it all up.
Your guesses, historically, are worse than that of the monkey.

Since you "just guess" all the time, the adult newsgroups always hand you
your head, e.g., the linux newsgroups. 
  Why Apple Apologists can only survive on Apple-only newsgroups! 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ey9kv6ysVgA/jTmpI1ceEQAJ>

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#50973

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:46:23 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> I'm not an Apple person, but, I strongly suspect many well versed 
> Apple people would not only strong disagree with you, but list 
> various Apple friendly alternatives.

We have run _many_ tests over the decades, where the procedure is simple.

1. We post a technical question as user "x" to the adult newsgroups.
2. We post the same question as user "y" to the Apple newsgroups.

Almost always, if not always, the Apple users prove to be children.
Why?

I don't know why.
It's reproducible though, as it happens every time.
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/veU8FwAjBQAJ>

All I know is that the Apple user proves, time and again,
a. Their belief system is not based on factual evidence, and, 
b. They make decisions based on innnate inbred inordinate fear, and, 
c. Their defense to facts is brazen fabrications of imaginary functionality

The proof abounds, not by what I write, but by what _they_ prove themselves
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/zfjC3V9QdiQ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo/yekUPvIXAwAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/b0DrfrsRh24/ODQneWFEBAAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GExRc1qrFGo/JBzdCKSSAwAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ey9kv6ysVgA/jTmpI1ceEQAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/eRTC23FyVDY/fDk0k8KAAwAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/zL1t_XPv1ZQ/ks57bICuCAAJ>
etc.

I only speak facts, which is why Apple Apologists hate me (they hate facts)

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#50964

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
news:pofrnu$1oj$1@news.mixmin.net Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:49:19 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 03:19:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> 
>> Here is a composite screenshot of the GUI difference between the
>> two. 
>>  <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9801813newpipevsskytube.jpg>
> 
> For "visiblink" (or anyone else who tested these two absolutely
> ground breakingly fantastically powerful privacy enhancing apps
> recently)... 
> 
> SkyTube website: http://skytube-app.com/
> SkyTube at F-Droid:
> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/ 
> 
> NewPipe website: https://newpipe.schabi.org/
> NewPipe at F-Droid:
> https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ 
> 
> I tested both open source apps yesterday, where New Pipe worked
> perfectly again (it was crashing for a while because YouTube
> unilaterally changed their public API apparently).
> 
> But Sky Tube kept crashing.

Remember when I told you about Android not being universal? :)

Now, you've had a taste of it. Out of the box install, you can't use 
the app where as another Android user can. You may be able to get the 
app running on YOUR particular Android device with a little tweaking; 
But if/when you're able to do so, the tweaks you'll use are NOT 
universal and may/may not work for someone else having the same 
'crash' (well, as far as you're concerned it is) that's running 
Android but a different version and/or hardware.
 
> Does Sky Tube work for you currently?

Obviously it is. 

Message-ID: <20180925191434.44becc6a@darkstar.WORKGROUP>
If you like NewPipe, you may also like SkyTube (also open source).
The advantage of SkyTube is that if you subscribe to various
channels (really, you're just kind of bookmarking them, because
you're not logged in), SkyTube creates a lengthy feed from all of
your subscribed channels with multiple videos from each channel.
NewPipe only adds the last video released on each subscribed channel
to your feed. I like having more to browse. 

*** end snippit

That reads to me as a personal opinion of the features the software
has based on 1st hand experience with it. IE: it's working/has
worked for them. 

Since they recommended it with that post in particular and didn't 
mention stability issues when using it, An educated guess (reasonable 
deduction in all actuality) is that they are, presently, using the 
software and it's working well for them. Which again, is why they 
suggested it as an alternative.

> (Or do we need to wait for a fix?)

Who's 'we' specifically? The only person to indicate on this thread 
of it's inability to function has been yourself. So, unless my math 
is off, so far, it's just you who can't get it up and running without 
doing additional work. *IF* you can resolve the issue it's having.

Do you still think Android is universal? Sorry, couldn't resist the 
shot.
 



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#50972

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:46:23 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> Remember when I told you about Android not being universal? :)

Jesus Christ, Diesel,
Act like an adult for once, as this "I told you so" crap is childish.

> Now, you've had a taste of it.

For Christs' sake, Diesel ... 
Do you really think your platitude adds _any_ value whatsoever?

> Out of the box install, you can't use 
> the app where as another Android user can.

For heaven's sake, why do you insist on proving you can't add value?

> You may be able to get the 
> app running on YOUR particular Android device with a little tweaking; 

If you really were as intelligent as you _think_ you are, Diesel, 
you'd test the tweaks and then post those tweaks, which is what I do all
the time (by way of adult example).

For example:
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/-MvKdMBMCpk>
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/IxxbzKj-no0>
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/YChNXksRNHw>
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/IUNBsY5F_Ho>
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/f7AZHmGIQxA>

HINT: I have thousands upon thousands of these threads, each one of which
*adds value* to our combined tribal knowledge.

Question for Diesel:
Q: Please post just five URLs of where you, Diesel, actually add value.
Just five.

Heck.... post just one.
etc.

> But if/when you're able to do so, the tweaks you'll use are NOT 
> universal and may/may not work for someone else having the same 
> 'crash' (well, as far as you're concerned it is) that's running 
> Android but a different version and/or hardware.

Jesus Christ Diesel.

I realize you have zero formal education, and that you don't have much
intelligence, but why you _insist_ on /proving that/ with every post is
just beyond my comprehension.

*I don't have the social skills necessary to deal with morons like you.*

HINT: If you can't add any on-topic technical value, just crying like a
baby isn't helping anyone, and neither is my response asking you to stop.

-- 
If you don't have the intelligence to add on-topic technical value, then
please stop proving that is a fact with every single one of your posts.

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#50989

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
news:poiqlv$hrh$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 14:49:36 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:46:23 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
> 
>> Remember when I told you about Android not being universal? :)
> 
> Jesus Christ, Diesel,
> Act like an adult for once, as this "I told you so" crap is
> childish. 

LOL. I don't know many adults who refer to others as morons,
etc...Atleast not emotionally mature ones... 

> If you really were as intelligent as you _think_ you are, Diesel, 
> you'd test the tweaks and then post those tweaks, which is what I
> do all the time (by way of adult example).

I have tested the tweak, on the machine I got the app running on. I
haven't had time to test it on the other devices which aren't
working... 
 
> HINT: I have thousands upon thousands of these threads, each one
> of which *adds value* to our combined tribal knowledge.

If you say so.
 
> Question for Diesel:
> Q: Please post just five URLs of where you, Diesel, actually add
> value. Just five.

Wouldn't MIDs be more appropriate to ask me for?
 
> Heck.... post just one.
> etc.

Okay...

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=153807697000

> I realize you have zero formal education, and that you don't have
> much intelligence, but why you _insist_ on /proving that/ with
> every post is just beyond my comprehension.

https://www.completelyfreesoftware.com/reviews/du_w31_BUGHUN.html
I've done alot more than that, but, I thought it was a nice counter
to your silly statements above. I especially like, the "A must have
for all PC users". 

> *I don't have the social skills necessary to deal with morons like
> you.* 

Morons like me? :) The url above describes one of many technical
programs I've written... You do have a problem with your social
skills.. but, it's more to do with your own arrogance than anything
else... 
 
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#50994

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:05:55 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> LOL. I don't know many adults who refer to others as morons,
> etc...Atleast not emotionally mature ones... 

Let's talk facts, Diesel:
a. I mirror the intent of the post in threads I care about
b. Those threads are almost always threads that I author

If you don't post moronic crap in those threads, you'll never hear a peep
from me.

That's a fact.

>> If you really were as intelligent as you _think_ you are, Diesel, 
>> you'd test the tweaks and then post those tweaks, which is what I
>> do all the time (by way of adult example).
> 
> I have tested the tweak, on the machine I got the app running on. I
> haven't had time to test it on the other devices which aren't
> working... 

You're exactly like nospam, Diesel, where you fabricate wholly imaginary
functionality which never seems to exist when someone asks you for the
proof of your wild claims.

HINT: You claimed the method was "obvious", and yet, you didn't know the
first thing about the method.

Since your claims bears no fruit, I call you on your willful brazen
fabrications of imaginary functionality that you 'claim' to have.

*Where have you added _any_ on topic technical value to this thread?*

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