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  Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 14:41 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 14:47 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2018-09-14 16:33 +0100
        Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:14 +0000
          Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-16 22:41 +0000
            Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 03:12 +0000
              Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-19 20:29 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 01:34 +0000
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-20 08:54 -0400
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-20 14:17 +0000
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-20 19:30 +0000
            Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-18 09:42 -0400
              Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 16:11 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-18 12:31 -0400
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 04:22 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-18 19:35 +0000
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 05:15 +0000
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 07:52 +0000
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-19 15:32 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:55 -0400
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-22 19:26 -0700
    [OT] Malware alert? (was: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed)) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-14 15:28 +0000
      Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:30 +0000
        Re: [OT] Malware alert? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:47 -0400
          Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:23 +0000
            Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:14 +0000
              Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:24 -0400
                Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:42 +0000
                  Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 22:07 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 03:01 +0000
                      Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 23:55 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 04:31 +0000
            Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-15 12:44 +0000
              Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-15 09:12 -0400
                Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 21:45 +0000
              Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 14:05 +0000
                Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-15 15:25 +0000
                  Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:51 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-17 11:35 +0000
                      Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-17 11:55 +0000
                      Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 14:00 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-18 23:31 +0000
          Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 02:43 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:31 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 14:06 -0400
        Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:01 +0000
          Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:17 +0000
            Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 17:31 -0400
              Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:43 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 17:51 -0400
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 18:02 -0400
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 18:01 -0400
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:20 -0400
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:26 +0000
                      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:32 -0400
                        Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:42 +0000
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:07 +0000
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:20 -0400
                      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:38 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:51 -0400
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:28 +0000
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:46 -0400
            Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-15 00:12 +0000
              Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:54 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:13 +0000
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:23 -0400
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:56 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:23 -0400
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:59 +0000
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 22:07 -0400
                      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 02:35 +0000
                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-16 01:28 +0000
                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 03:13 +0000
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-15 23:21 -0400
                      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:15 +0000
                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-17 06:47 +0000
                      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 14:15 +0000
                        Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-21 07:48 +0000
                          Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-09-21 08:34 -0500
                            Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
                              Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 12:53 +0000
                                Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
                                  Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-28 08:50 +1200
                                    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-11-13 13:05 +0000
                          Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 12:48 +0000
                            Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 14:20 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-16 22:37 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 13:28 +0000
        Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 13:38 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 04:27 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 01:53 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-19 22:02 -0400
        Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 02:10 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 19:57 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 20:10 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-21 08:15 +0000
        Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:11 +0000
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:30 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:59 +0000
      Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-09-27 17:32 +0200
    Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed)  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-21 19:03 +0000

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#50834

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 07:48:09 -0000 (UTC)
Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> Again, I remind you of what you originally wrote:
> 
> Message-ID: <pnghb3$jc2$1@news.mixmin.net>
> I post this FYI so others know how *easy* it is to *simultaneously* 
> slide huge files both ways over USB to *any* iOS, Android, Windows, & 
> Linux device!
> 
> ***end snippit
> 
> Any particular reason you're getting specific with the Linux distro 
> now?

In addition, let me mention in passing Windows 3.11 and all earlier
versions wherein I'm pretty sure one won't get that 'file
sliding' working.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Beliefs are the diluting ice cubes in the chilled chardonnay of
 experience.
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#50962

"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
news:20180921083422.6ad19354@WizardsTower Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:34:22
GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 07:48:09 -0000 (UTC)
> Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> 
>> Again, I remind you of what you originally wrote:
>> 
>> Message-ID: <pnghb3$jc2$1@news.mixmin.net>
>> I post this FYI so others know how *easy* it is to
>> *simultaneously* slide huge files both ways over USB to *any*
>> iOS, Android, Windows, & Linux device!
>> 
>> ***end snippit
>> 
>> Any particular reason you're getting specific with the Linux
>> distro now?
> 
> In addition, let me mention in passing Windows 3.11 and all
> earlier versions wherein I'm pretty sure one won't get that 'file
> sliding' working.

You have to admit, the 'file sliding' is a nifty buzzword. Evidently 
selected to explain the newfound 'discovery'? :)
 


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#50968

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> You have to admit, the 'file sliding' is a nifty buzzword. Evidently 
> selected to explain the newfound 'discovery'? :)

*Usenet is full of you worthless trolls, Diesel (and Cybe R. Wizard).*

Both you and Cybe R. Wizard, who is a well known troll on the Linux
newsgroups) can only nit pick.

It's a fact that you, Diesel, didn't even _comprehend_ this process, since
you _thought_ that it was a simple USB file transfer, which, for iOS, it is
decidedly not.

When I *repeatedly* challenged you, and all the other childish naysayers)
to explain the process, particularly how we *write* to the full iOS file
system over USB, you all fell deathly silent.

That's the most telling of all.

You see, Diesel, you prove by what you write that you
a. Claim the system is "obvious", and yet, 
b. You don't understand it.

Worse, you prove with every post (as did Cybe R. Wizard), that you don't
have the intelligence to *improve* the process.

Why don't you (and that utter moron, Cybe R. Wizard), use what little
brains you seem to have to attempt to *improve* the process, so that
everyone will benefit from your actions.

HINT: You can't. Neither of you has the intelligence necessary.

That's a fact you, Diesel, (and Cybe R. Wizard), prove in every post!

*Usenet is full of you worthless trolls, Diesel (and Cybe R. Wizard).*

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#50990

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
news:poijsp$88v$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:53:46 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
> 
>> You have to admit, the 'file sliding' is a nifty buzzword.
>> Evidently selected to explain the newfound 'discovery'? :)
> 
> *Usenet is full of you worthless trolls, Diesel (and Cybe R.
> Wizard).* 

Thanks?
 
> It's a fact that you, Diesel, didn't even _comprehend_ this
> process, since you _thought_ that it was a simple USB file
> transfer, which, for iOS, it is decidedly not.

Umm... okay.
 
> When I *repeatedly* challenged you, and all the other childish
> naysayers) to explain the process, particularly how we *write* to
> the full iOS file system over USB, you all fell deathly silent.

You haven't responded to a reply I left for you...
 
> You see, Diesel, you prove by what you write that you
> a. Claim the system is "obvious", and yet, 
> b. You don't understand it.

The system is obvious and I do understand it perfectly fine. The 
term, sliding though is new to me. Was there something wrong with 
copy (or cut) and paste? 
 
> Worse, you prove with every post (as did Cybe R. Wizard), that you
> don't have the intelligence to *improve* the process.

If you knew what I knew, you'd understand why I find your attacks on 
my intelligence so damn funny. Maybe it's the handle i'm using that's 
thrown you? heh.
 


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#50998

On 2018-09-27 20:05:57 +0000, Diesel said:
> "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
> news:poijsp$88v$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:53:46 GMT in
> alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
>>> You have to admit, the 'file sliding' is a nifty buzzword.
>>> Evidently selected to explain the newfound 'discovery'? :)
>> 
>> *Usenet is full of you worthless trolls, Diesel (and Cybe R.
>> Wizard).*
> 
> Thanks?

Talk about pot-kettle-black ... "Arlen H. Holder" is the biggest and 
most brainless worthless troll in these newsgroup. Everyone needs to 
stop replying to that moron!

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#51582

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> news:pojfqb$fo9$1@adenine.netfront.net 
Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:50:19 GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote:

> On 2018-09-27 20:05:57 +0000, Diesel said:
>> "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
>> news:poijsp$88v$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:53:46 GMT in
>> alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:46:21 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
>>>> You have to admit, the 'file sliding' is a nifty buzzword.
>>>> Evidently selected to explain the newfound 'discovery'? :)
>>> 
>>> *Usenet is full of you worthless trolls, Diesel (and Cybe R.
>>> Wizard).*
>> 
>> Thanks?
> 
> Talk about pot-kettle-black ... "Arlen H. Holder" is the biggest and 
> most brainless worthless troll in these newsgroup. Everyone needs to 
> stop replying to that moron!
> 
> 

Hmm. I do admit that I'm a very sarcastic individual most of the time, 
and have been known to be quite an asshole. That being said, troll 
isn't one of the things that I'm known for being that actually has any 
backbone to it. In other words, that's bullshit. 


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#50967

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 07:48:09 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> It's about a little more than that. You previously claimed, any 
> version of windows, linux, android, ios, etc. That your method is 
> universal. 

You're a well-known troll, Diesel, so, while the sentence above is what an
adult would write, let's see what your post is about, bearing in mind that
if you act like a child, I treat you like a child, Diesel.

> As I and others have already told you (Yes, I did check your other 
> thread from July where you finally disclosed the third party packages 
> present on your linux distro that provide limited AFC support) You've 
> incorrectly assumed that all distros contain the 3rd party packages 
> required to gain limited (not full, contrary to your previous claims) 
> access to a supported iOS device.

You're nit picking, Diesel. Which means my post was pretty damn good!

It's like I'm saying that a nail works in all wood, and you then try to
nail into a knot, just so that you can claim that the nail doeesn't work in
all wood.

The user "joe" cried like a baby, for example, the split second he ran into
the simplest of the most trivial of commands, which was something like:
  sudo apt-get install x

For Christs' sake, if you're _not_ on Ubuntu 18.04, which is the system I
clearly tested, and if your distro doesn't have 'x', then you cry like a
baby if you have to run this command?
   sudo apt-get install x

C'mon Diesel. 

If _that_ is the worst you (and the crybaby "joe") can say about my ad-hoc
Usenet post, then my post is pretty damn good, since Usenet isn't a legal
contract where I have ever sentence vetted by my lawyer before I post it.

> I know you didn't, because you've claimed it works with ANY Android 
> device on any flavor of ios, linux, or, Windows. I know for a fact 
> what you've written isn't true because i've dealt with THOUSANDS of 
> these stupid Android powered devices (they aren't all phones you 
> know) and encountered many! that are a righteous fucking bastard at 
> times to access, because they aren't following the so called 
> standards.

Look Diesel, if you're not a sock for "joe", you sure *sound* like one. 
For Christs' sake, if that's the worst thing you can find wrong with this
brilliant system, then it's pretty damn good.

Remember, this is Usenet. It's casual. It's not a textbook where every
sentence has to be reviewed by a team of editors and professors.

>> Hence, Diesel brings up a "possibly" good point that this system
>> "might not" work with all Android devices. 
> 
> It doesn't. See above.

You're not helping anyone with your childish nit-picking attempt.
Why don't you spend that energy *improving* the process for everyone?

HINT: You can't. That would require intelligence you don't have.

> Let me give you a few more, facts, then. I've been a certified 
> technician for over twenty years with two honorary masters in I.T. 

And, I can tell, from what you post, that you don't have the intelligence
to add even a single iota of incremental added value to the given system.

That's not as bad as it sounds, as probably only one out of 10,000 people
on this newsgroup have that kind of intelligence.

And that person hasn't posted to this thread yet, since I'm the only one
here who added _any_ on-topic technical value to this thread.

> I 
> have an established track record online as well as offline for my .. 
> technical expertise and skillsets. 

Diesel,
Let's be adults, shall we?

Both you and I can _list_ our credentials, but, really, what matters isn't
a list of our credentials - but how much *added value* we provide to the
team.

I clearly provided added value (since we proved that _nobody_ who posted
knew the tricks that I provided, particularly when dealing with the
persnickety iOS devices).

In fact, it seems nobody _understood_ the whole process, particularly those
that said it was "obvious" since not a single person, when challenged,
could answer the simplest of questions about the brilliant process.

While both you and I can list credentials, at least I added value.

> There's absolutely no reason to 
> take me for my word on those claims either, you can *easily* read 
> about some of the things I'm responsible for via google or your 
> favorite search engine of choice. Moron, idiot, etc, I'm not.

If you (or anyone else) *improves* the process, then you're intelligent.
If you can't improve the process ... you've proved nothing to anyone.

Worse, if all you can do is nit pick, then you prove you're a moron.
Your own actions prove everything we need to know about you.

Mine were that I added value.
Yours were... um ... er ... what?

All you proved, Diesel, was:
a. You didn't understnad the process (that is super clear to all)
b. You haven't added a single iota of added value (also clear to all)
 
> If you've been around this newsgroup (alt.comp.freeware) for decades 
> like you've claimed, you'd already know me and wouldn't be calling me 
> a moron, etc. So, I'm doubting that claim of yours, too.

hehhehheh ... I know a lot more than you think, Diesel.
Don't you wonder why I confront you cowardly bully trolls?

Don't you wonder why I _know_ you never understood the process?
Don't you wonder why I know you'll never add any value?

HINT: You can't. 
You see, I have been on Usenet for a very long time.

> Again, I remind you of what you originally wrote:

Here's the good news, Diesel.
a. You act like an adult, I treat you like an adult.
b. You act like a child, I treat you like a child.

It's really a simple equation, which is _designed_ to funnel you into
acting like an adult.

If you wish to act like an adult, it's easy (if you're intelligent):
*Just add technical value to _improve_ the process for all to benefit.*

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#50991

"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
news:poijiq$81e$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 12:48:27 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 07:48:09 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
> 
>> It's about a little more than that. You previously claimed, any 
>> version of windows, linux, android, ios, etc. That your method is
>> universal. 
> 
> You're a well-known troll, Diesel, so, while the sentence above is
> what an adult would write, let's see what your post is about,
> bearing in mind that if you act like a child, I treat you like a
> child, Diesel. 

Partially right, Arlen. I am well known, but it's not for that of 
being a troll.
 
>> As I and others have already told you (Yes, I did check your
>> other thread from July where you finally disclosed the third
>> party packages present on your linux distro that provide limited
>> AFC support) You've incorrectly assumed that all distros contain
>> the 3rd party packages required to gain limited (not full,
>> contrary to your previous claims) access to a supported iOS
>> device. 
> 
> You're nit picking, Diesel. Which means my post was pretty damn
> good! 

I'm doing nothing of the sort. You mislead people by withholding that 
information and expected them to go fish for it. :) Fact is, out of 
the box, not all distros have those packages and so contrary to what 
you initially claimed, not all linux distros will read/write to an 
ios device without 3rd party software; which is what you were told 
from the fucking get go.
 
> It's like I'm saying that a nail works in all wood, and you then
> try to nail into a knot, just so that you can claim that the nail
> doeesn't work in all wood.

That's a terrible comparison...
 
> Look Diesel, if you're not a sock for "joe", you sure *sound* like
> one. For Christs' sake, if that's the worst thing you can find
> wrong with this brilliant system, then it's pretty damn good.

Nope, I'm not a sock for anyone...There's nothing brilliant or new 
about the system you described, except for your coinage of the word 
'slide' for file copying...
 
> HINT: You can't. That would require intelligence you don't have.

I don't think you want to compare wits with me. I've got work that's 
been published and extensively peer reviewed. rofl.
 
> And that person hasn't posted to this thread yet, since I'm the
> only one here who added _any_ on-topic technical value to this
> thread. 

What technical value did you add, specifically?
 
>> If you've been around this newsgroup (alt.comp.freeware) for
>> decades like you've claimed, you'd already know me and wouldn't
>> be calling me a moron, etc. So, I'm doubting that claim of yours,
>> too. 
> 
> hehhehheh ... I know a lot more than you think, Diesel.

Oh? Let's test that theory. What's my primary, and very well known 
handle here? :)

> You see, I have been on Usenet for a very long time.

As have I. :)
 


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#50693

On 14 Sep 2018 14:41:40 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:

> I post this FYI so others know how *easy* it is to *simultaneously* slide 
> huge files both ways over USB to *any* iOS, Android, Windows, & Linux 
> device!

Moving the ball forward for everyone ... 

Following is a suggested improvement to the best known way of sliding files
back and forth from and to any Windows, Linux, iOS, or Android device,
simultaneously, sans any proprietary strings attached.
 <http://alt.os.linux.narkive.com/4FydoVr4/a-note-from-the-cross-platform-groups-that-may-interest-linux-users-too>

 On 19 Aug 2018 01:24:31 GMT, J.O. Aho wrote:
 > Dual booting, ain't that a bit 1980's, even for gamin on microsoft OS
 > you can still boot your favourite Linux distribution as host and run a
 > virtualised instance of the closed source OS.
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/LMQRVNx92-I>

While the common Apple Apologists like nospam will _never_ improve any
process (all Apple Apologists can do is punch buttons that Apple Marketing
told them to use - where Apple Marketing says the real world is "not
supported"), the Linux user "J.O. Aho" recently suggested that possible
alternative method.

I've written tutorials on how to install & use VirtualBox on Windows, so
I'll try that method to see if it improves upon this dual-boot process.

Special thanks go to J.O. Aho for being the only one to suggest
improvements so that everyone benefits from every post.

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#50700

Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
news:pnghb3$jc2$1@news.mixmin.net Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:41:40 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> I post this FYI so others know how *easy* it is to
> *simultaneously* slide huge files both ways over USB to *any* iOS,
> Android, Windows, & Linux device!

I wasn't aware this wasn't common knowledge already?
 
> No proprietary software or ID logins required (other than native
> basics). 

Erm...
 
> At home, I have Windows 10 desktops with dual-boot Ubuntu 18.04,
> where I can connect *any* Android or iOS device (not just my own)
> and slide huge files back in forth in a single swipe, read and
> write. 
> 
> *Simultaneously*
> Over four systems!

Yep. However...Depending on OS in use as well as Android version 
along with specific changes done by the manufacturer of the Android 
device in question, this won't work without 3rd party driver/software 
installation. In other words, it's sadly, not a universal experience. 

Some Android devices fully support the original MTP protocol and 
others do not. When they don't, you can run into problems on older 
OSes that aren't aware of changes in the protocol that your Android 
device might use. That's when an additional driver and/or software 
installation is required.

As I still run XP (it's the only Windows based OS I run outside of a 
VM), I run into this issue likely more often than yourself. [g]
 
> HINT: I can slide across 4 systems, with only 3 devices! (details
> matter) 

Yes, using uptodate oses on the majority/all of them, right?
 
> The test today to the iPad went at 7GB per minute on a decade old
> desktop. 

Uhh, not at 7gigs a minute. [g]
 
> 1. Plug in the iPad or Android device - it automatically mounts.

Yes, because your OS/kernel is new enough to support which ever 
Android device and version you're using. It's foolish of you to 
assume that Android devices all play equally and that all versions of 
Android do as well. They don't.

> Note that on all four devices you have *zero* additional software.
> The only software is what is commonly installed when you install
> the OS. HINT: That means no Orwellian iTunes or AirDrop
> abominations, for example. 

In your particular case. That's not the case for me. I have a variety 
of Android devices running various versions of Android as well as 
various laptops/towers that run various operating systems. They don't 
all freely talk to each other simply by connecting via USB. Would be 
nice, but, that's differences in OS/Android versions for you; not 
even touching on the subject of manufacturer specific alterations to 
the particular Android build present on your device.

In other words, friend, it's sadly not universal.
 
> Note that all four devices have *simultaneous* read/write access.
> They don't even have to be *your* devices (i.e., no Apple or
> Android ID). 

I'm confused as to why you thought? they needed to be your devices or 
you required a login or something else in the first place. I fully 
expect that I can plugin a device that has onboard memory and 
(hopefully) directly access it from console/GUI or, if needbe, 
install a pesky driver/3rd party app to give me the access I want. 
I'm completely okay with the device being treated like an external 
hard disk.

I'm not much of an Apple geek, but, I don't remember any of them 
requiring me to login to access any of the files on the ipods or 
anything when I used to fool with them...
 
> If you know of a cross-platform method *easier & faster* than just
> plugging in *any* device (it doesn't even have to be yours!) and
> sliding any visible files back and forth simultaneously, then let
> me know! 

I've found for me, due to the aforementioned compatibility issues 
that a semi universal usb memory stick (that supports a large variety 
of formats and types) reader/writer is my best bet, atleast in so far 
as accessing sdcards, etc. Not only can I just pull the card out of 
any of my devices and mount it as an external drive with full access, 
I can do the same with any of the Cameras I have as well. I don't 
need to be concerned with using a particular PC that I loaded the 
special software on, what version of Android the device is using or 
anything else along those lines. I just chat with the sdcard directly 
myself.

The obvious drawback is I can't access the internal memory storage 
this way. Which is okay, I've got the mxlinux machine (it's a newer 
kernel) that can mount my Android devices without any help from me. 
:)

I hope you don't take any personal offense to this post, but, it 
appeared to me as if you thought you struck gold and were excited to 
tell the world about your discovery. 



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#50712

On 16 Sep 2018 22:37:55 GMT, Diesel wrote:

> I wasn't aware this wasn't common knowledge already?

Edify me.
*But first, tell me what step I accidentally omitted in the OP.*
HINT: I'll be glad to explain - my point is this is NOT common knowledge.

Bear in mind I'm trying to *teach* you something you *think* you know.
But your own words prove you don't understand the system.

I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

Especially since you say it's common knowledge.
a. It's NOT common knowledge 
b. You don't even know it (even now)

You *think* you understand it - but you clearly do not.
Neither did Jason Betts. Neither did anyone who posted yet.

They all *think* they understand it - but they can't actually *do* it!
I don't say this maliciously - it's simply a fact you proved yourself.

I say it bluntly because you bluntly intimate it's common knowledge, and
yet, you don't understand the inherent beauty of this mechanism yourself. 

That you misunderstand it is easily proven by your own words (see below).

> Yep. However...Depending on OS in use as well as Android version 
> along with specific changes done by the manufacturer of the Android 
> device in question, this won't work without 3rd party driver/software 
> installation. In other words, it's sadly, not a universal experience. 

What 3rd party drivers are you talking about and on what platform?

This works on *all* native Windows filesystems.
It works with iOS and Android filesystems too.

That's half of the inherent beauty of the system, in fact. 

I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

> As I still run XP (it's the only Windows based OS I run outside of a 
> VM), I run into this issue likely more often than yourself. [g]

That you bring up Windows XP proves that you don't understand it.
It works on native Windows XP filesystems just fine.

That's half the beauty of the system, in fact, which is that it works with
*everything* without you having to put *anything* on the Windows, iOS, or
Android device.

I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.
 
>> HINT: I can slide across 4 systems, with only 3 devices! (details
>> matter) 
> Yes, using uptodate oses on the majority/all of them, right?

Please understand I'm trying to *teach* you something that you *think* you
know - but you clearly do not understand what you think is common knowledge
(because it's not).

That you even ask that question means you didn't understand.
This works with all native Windows filesystems.

Half the beauty of this system is that it works with everything.

I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

> Uhh, not at 7gigs a minute. [g]
*My tests last night with 1.7GB of 400 photos, each 4,287,961 bytes*

1. *Windows filesystem to Android* 18 minutes, 21 seconds
6. *Windows filesystem to iOS* 1 minute, 42 seconds
2. *Android to the Windows filesystem* 2 minutes, 20 seconds
5. *iOS to the Windows filesystem* 1 minute, 55 seconds
4. *iOS to Android* 11 minutes, 49 seconds
3. *Android to iOS* 3 minutes, 5 seconds
Note: The order run was so that screenshots would be easier.

If anyone who *thinks* this is common knowledge has not done all six of
those tests, then they almost certainly don't yet understand the inherent
and utter beauty of this system!

HINT: Those copies were to any iOS directory, including the DCIM directory!
Please think hard about that simple statement above. It's critical.

I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

>> 1. Plug in the iPad or Android device - it automatically mounts.
> 
> Yes, because your OS/kernel is new enough to support which ever 
> Android device and version you're using. It's foolish of you to 
> assume that Android devices all play equally and that all versions of 
> Android do as well. They don't.

Why do you think any modern Android phone wouldn't work?
I'd love to learn from you but I've never failed on any Android phone, and
trust me, my equipment is old for the most part. Very old. 

I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

>> Note that on all four devices you have *zero* additional software.
>> The only software is what is commonly installed when you install
>> the OS. HINT: That means no Orwellian iTunes or AirDrop
>> abominations, for example. 
> 
> In your particular case. That's not the case for me. I have a variety 
> of Android devices running various versions of Android as well as 
> various laptops/towers that run various operating systems.

Why do you bring this up when it works with all Windows filesystems?
In my tests, it works with all iOS and Android devices tested (and mine are
old!). Why do you think it wouldn't work?

I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

> They don't 
> all freely talk to each other simply by connecting via USB. 

Why not?
I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

> Would be 
> nice, but, that's differences in OS/Android versions for you; not 
> even touching on the subject of manufacturer specific alterations to 
> the particular Android build present on your device.

Why wouldnt' this work with all modern Android devices?
I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

> In other words, friend, it's sadly not universal.

Why not?
I'd be glad to learn from you - but you can't heave unsubstantiated FUD.

>> Note that all four devices have *simultaneous* read/write access.
>> They don't even have to be *your* devices (i.e., no Apple or
>> Android ID). 
> 
> I'm confused as to why you thought? they needed to be your devices or 
> you required a login or something else in the first place.

Hehhehheh ... 
You don't seem to be familiar with the Apple Apologist tricks.

Try, for example, to copy *any* MP3 from *any* iPod on the planet, using
the Apple-sanctioned methods that the Apologists spout are so powerful.

Try it.
HINT: I can do it ... but I know the tricks. Most people can't.

What matters greatly to me is to come up with brilliantly crafted solutions
which have close to zero hurdles - where pulling a credit card out of your
pocket is a hurdle - and where being limited to a single AppleID is a
hurdle (or even a family ID) - and where the need for proprietary software
that doesn't work on all platforms is a hurdle, etc. 

Every solution I come up with is brilliantly crafted to eliminate hurdles.

HINT: Lest you think this "brilliance" is mine - it is not. All my
solutions are crafted with the help of the Usenet tribal knowledge.

That's where the brilliance of these solutions comes from.
If you can improve on this brilliant solution - I'm all for learning from
you.

But you can't just heave unsubstantiated FUD.

> I fully 
> expect that I can plugin a device that has onboard memory and 
> (hopefully) directly access it from console/GUI or, if needbe, 
> install a pesky driver/3rd party app to give me the access I want. 
> I'm completely okay with the device being treated like an external 
> hard disk.

No third-party apps needed.
That's half of the brilliance of this system.

> I'm not much of an Apple geek, but, I don't remember any of them 
> requiring me to login to access any of the files on the ipods or 
> anything when I used to fool with them...

Hehhehheh ... suffice to say that the moment you need an AppleID, you're
restricted to the walled garden. 

HINT: Linux is outside the walled garden, and even Windows is outside the
walled garden in some respects.

You *must* be very familiar with Apple restrictions in order to appreciate
the sheer brilliance of this system.

That's one reason why I know Jason Betts was wrong when he intimated that
this system is common knowledge. It's why I know you don't understand this
system - because it's NOT common knowledge to most people.

>> If you know of a cross-platform method *easier & faster* than just
>> plugging in *any* device (it doesn't even have to be yours!) and
>> sliding any visible files back and forth simultaneously, then let
>> me know! 
> 
> I've found for me, due to the aforementioned compatibility issues 
> that a semi universal usb memory stick (that supports a large variety 
> of formats and types) reader/writer is my best bet, atleast in so far 
> as accessing sdcards, etc.

While I have nothing against USB sticks, you bring up a good point which is
that iOS is severely limited in how it deals directly with USB sticks.

So this inherently beautiful method instantly *solves* that sticky problem!
Thanks for bringing up USB sticks since that's *another* beauty!

> Not only can I just pull the card out of 
> any of my devices and mount it as an external drive with full access, 
> I can do the same with any of the Cameras I have as well. I don't 
> need to be concerned with using a particular PC that I loaded the 
> special software on, what version of Android the device is using or 
> anything else along those lines. I just chat with the sdcard directly 
> myself.

I'm glad you bring up cameras, as the beauty of this system is that it
applies equally well to cameras, even cameras running iOS (which exist
according to Savageduck).

> I hope you don't take any personal offense to this post, but, it 
> appeared to me as if you thought you struck gold and were excited to 
> tell the world about your discovery. 

I don't take personal offense if you're trying to be purposefully helpful.
I think you are trying to be purposefully helpful.

The problem I have is you *think* you understand the system, but your words
prove you do not understand the system.

It irks me that you, and Jason, and others *think* this is common
knowledge, but I just realized when I ran my six tests, that I actually
inadvertently left out a key step - so - anyone who *thinks* this is common
knowledge, doesn't actually even know what step I left out!

So there are two reasons I know that you (and others) who _claim_ this is
common knowledge don't actually understand what they *think* they
understands:

1. You speak of Windows XP, where that doesn't matter one bit, and, 
2. You can't tell me the step accidentally left out (Hint - it's for iOS).

The *one* place you (and Jason Betts) can edify me is your sewing of FUD
that this won't work with all Android devices.

I have tested this with about a dozen (mostly ancient) Android devices, all
of which work just fine - but maybe you know something about Android that I
don't know where you can edify me why it wouldn't work on all common
Android devices.

Edify me.
*But first, tell me what step I accidentally omitted in the OP.*
HINT: I'll be glad to explain - my point is this is NOT common knowledge.

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#50713

On 17 Sep 2018 13:28:43 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:

> HINT: Those copies were to any iOS directory, including the DCIM directory!
> Please think hard about that simple statement above. It's critical.

Clarification.

Since the above-quoted statement is half the inherent sheer beauty of this
system, and since the Apple Apologists love to play silly semantic games, I
feel the defensive need to add a single clarifying word to that critical
statement above.

*Those copies work to any _visible_ iOS directory, including DCIM!*

If you don't understand the sheer beauty of that statement, then you likely
don't understand the inherent brilliance of the stated solution.

HINT: Try it first, before you say it's common knowledge.

Admission: I accidentally left out a key step in the OP, which means
*nobody* will be successful - if they merely *think* they understand it.

I'll be happy to explain the step I missed, but if you can't tell me what
step I inadvertently missed, then you really do NOT understand it at all.

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#50765

Here are some screenshots proving this method does what almost everyone
fails to comprehend, which is it WRITES to the iOS filesystem in any
directory in the visible area possible.

If you don't know the trick to doing that, then you're just bullshitting us
that you think this solution is "obvious".

Unfortunately, I kind of gave up on editing the dozens of screenshots
because Windows just won't load them in the order I click them which makes
editing a large number of files in series a bitch.
  Why does a digital photo editor on Windows order a numbered series of incoming files capriciously? 
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.photo.digital/jlNvYuH8bmQ>

Here is an edited session of just the Android to iOS copy, where everyone
who 'says" it's obvious, is bullshitting us, because it's not obvious the
trick to write to any desired directory in the iOS visible file system.

Plug in any number of iOS & Android devices to your desktop:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9261136speedt001.jpg>

On Windows I created 400 copies of a test file using Irfanview:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6748333speedt002.jpg>

Each of the 400 files was 4,188KB (1.7GB in toto):
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3783685speedt003.jpg>

The Android and iOS file systems easily mount on the desktop:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6176902speedt004.jpg>

The trick that nobody knows is how to WRITE to the iOS filesystem!
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7155870speedt005.jpg>

Once you know the trick, you just create any folder where you want:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2335527speedt006.jpg>

In this case, I created a folder in the normally read-only DCIM folder:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8602708speedt007.jpg>

In one fell swoop, I used the desktop to copy files from Android to iOS:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9242923speedt008.jpg>

I could just as well have copied the other way around:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2204403speedt009.jpg>

Or, from either Android and iOS to or from the Windows filesystem:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3283618speedt010.jpg>

That's the sheer beauty and elegance of this brilliant solution:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6181611speedt011.jpg>

Moving the 400 files from Android to iOS took 3 minutes 5 seconds:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7049277speedt012.jpg>

If I did the math right, moving the files using Ubuntu 18.04 from the
Android 7 LG Stylo 3 Plus to the iOS 11.2.6 2017 iPad 9.7-inch went at the
rate of about 9.4 megabits per second or about a half gigabyte per minute.

I don't know what's "possible" but that's what I got.

Note that I could just as well have moved the files from one area of iOS to
another, or from any area of Android or Windows or Linux to another, as I
can manage the entire visible file system on all four devices
simultaneously without ANY software on any of the operating systems other
than what comes with the operating system.

Anyone who says this brilliant system is "obvious" is a liar, IMHO, since I
haven't mentioned the step that allows full write access to iOS (and no,
it's not jailbreaking).

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#50810

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:41:40 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
I just finished responding to Diesel in this post:
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/WqIDiVbawRs/FP11KUd-CAAJ>

I admit. I'm frustrated. 
I'm not used to dealing with people who resist new ideas.

I just don't have the social skills to deal with people _that_ dumb.

I'm realizing that NOBODY who posted understood this method.
Not a single person.

I'm trying to edify a sea of inert bricks it seems.

Those who posted can't understand the brilliance of being able to see and
write to any part of the visible iOS file system over USB is a "big deal".

In this thread, nobody told me anything I didn't know *years* ago.
Hence, I learned NOTHING from you (which is sad, since I was hoping to
improve the method even further).

But nobody comprehended the method.
They are all like bricks - where all they see is the USB cable.

And then they throw hilariously idiotic USB-related articles as "proof" tha
the method is universal ... even as they didn't even *read* those articles,
because if they did - they'd realize that they're jokes.

How do you deal with trying to edify people who can't comprehend facts?

I admit it's super frustrating dealing with people who are as resistant to
new ideas as the folks who responded have proven themselves to be, so I'm
going to give up on trying to edify anyone on this thread.

Suffice to say that the brilliance of this system is obvious to me, but not
obvious to anyone who responded.

If you can cite a single article on the net which shows how to WRITE to ANY
part of the visible file system of iOS using a method that also works with
all other common consumer platforms, then please post that article.

Until then, I'll just shake my head thinking that, even as I'm only average
in intelligence, I easily tower over everyone who posted because:
a. I understood EVERYTHING everyone said (nobody added anything new)
b. Nobody understood what I said (I write to anywhere on iOS)

Until people grow up, they won't be able to comprehend what I said above.

I apologize for being frustrated with all of those who responded.

Pardon me for being blunt...and it's not just nospam or Diesel.
It's everyone who responded.
Not one of them comprehends the simplest of facts.

I just don't have the social skills to deal with so many people _that_
incomprehensibly dumb.

I'm sorry. I give up trying to edify you.

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#50812

In article <pnuuih$17u$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> I just don't have the social skills to deal with people

yep.

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#50813

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 22:02:48 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> I just don't have the social skills to deal with people
> 
> yep.

Yet again, nospam, in his desperate attempt to *appear* witty, resorts to
brazenly fabricating quoted content that never happened simply due to his
childish need to "sound intelligent".

  Why do the iOS trolls like Jolly Roger & nospam always FABRICATE conversations... just so they can sound "witty" in response? 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GExRc1qrFGo/JBzdCKSSAwAJ>

It's one of the 7 common traits of the Apple Apologists
  What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup? 
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/veU8FwAjBQAJ>

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#50829

The inherent brilliance of this method is that it simultaneously allows
write/read access to the entire visible file system of all 4 platforms:
1. Linux (via ntfs)
2. Windows (via ntfs)
3. Android (via mtpfs)
4. iOS (via iOSfs)

Basically, everything acts essentially like a USB stick does.

The hard part is the *pair* of features in #4 (the rest are obvious):
a. Viewing the entire visible file system of iOS, and, 
b. Writing to that entire visible file system of iOS.

Everything else is obvious.

I posit that 99.9999999% of iOS users don't know how to turn their iOS
device into a read/write "USB stick" using this simple brilliant method.

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#50831

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:57:17 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> The inherent brilliance of this method is that it simultaneously allows
> write/read access to the entire visible file system of all 4 platforms:
> 1. Linux (via ntfs)
> 2. Windows (via ntfs)
> 3. Android (via mtpfs)
> 4. iOS (via iOSfs)
> 
> Basically, everything acts essentially like a USB stick does.
> 
> The hard part is the *pair* of features in #4 (the rest are obvious):
> a. Viewing the entire visible file system of iOS, and, 
> b. Writing to that entire visible file system of iOS.
> 
> Everything else is obvious.
> 
> I posit that 99.9999999% of iOS users don't know how to turn their iOS
> device into a read/write "USB stick" using this simple brilliant method.

Since I already proved that _nobody_ who posted actually _understood_ this
brilliant method, I simply point the users to the tutorial I wrote, which
explains that which all the naysayers clearly didn't comprehend.

Yes, that's you Diesel, Jasen, nospam, Carlos, Big Al, Slootweg, Wolf, &
Mike S, all of whom proved they were completely full of shit.

HINT: The solution is _not_ obvious - and anyone who said it was, is
clearly full of shit. I don't have the social skills to deal with all the
morons who posted - where NOBODY understood what I know.

Hence, I learned nothing since nobody said anything I didn't already know
years ago - where I'm the only one advancing the ball forward here.

*Read this & please do not respond unless you can add adult value!*
 How to read/write access iOS file systems on Ubuntu/Windows over USB cable 
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/IFC52JXBQ1c>

If you can improve on _that_ process, please do, but stop proving that
you're all morons, please. Simply try to _understand_ the simple process.
The inherent brilliance of this method is that it simultaneously allows
write/read access to the entire visible file system of all 4 platforms:
1. Linux (via ntfs)  <-- easy
2. Windows (via ntfs)  <-- easy
3. Android (via mtpfs)  <-- easy
4. iOS (via iOSfs)  <-- only easy if you know what I told you (see above)

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#50833

Arlen H. Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
> The inherent brilliance of this method is that it simultaneously allows
> write/read access to the entire visible file system of all 4 platforms:
> 1. Linux (via ntfs)
> 2. Windows (via ntfs)
> 3. Android (via mtpfs)
> 4. iOS (via iOSfs)

  And this rewriting history of yours is supposed to silently undo the
lies in your OP and ever since then!? Dream on!

  Because your self-proclaimed brilliance probably prevents you from
even realizing that your lies are lies, here they are again:

> I post this FYI so others know how *easy* it is to *simultaneously* slide
> huge files both ways over USB to *any* iOS, Android, Windows, & Linux
> device!

  Note "Windows ... device".

> Over four systems!

  Note "four". Note "systems".

> Note that on all four devices you have *zero* additional software.
> The only software is what is commonly installed when you install the OS.
[...]
> Note that all four devices have *simultaneous* read/write access.

  Note "four". Note "devices".

  QED.

  HTH. HAND. EOD. NK.

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#50969

On 21 Sep 2018 08:15:12 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   Note "four". Note "devices".

Frank Slootweg,

I know you all too well as a common troll on the Android newsgroup.

*All you _can_ do, Frank Slootweg, is play silly semantic games.*

Usenet is casual; it's not a legal contract vetted by a team of lawyers,
nor a textbook carefully scrutinized by a team of professors so that every
sentence repeats the same things that are otherwise clear to all.

It takes intelligence to improve this process, Frank Slootweg.
You don't have that kind of intelligence.

You prove it every single time you post, Frank Slootweg.

These are facts:
a. The process I described works
b. I explained which devices & versions I tested
c. Nobody (yes, nobody) understood the process (that is clear)
d. Which I proved by my challenge of asking them how we wrote to iOS

HINT: You don't possess the required intelligence to *improve* this
process.

All you _can_ do, Frank Slootweg, is nit pick on childish things.

Double hint;
a. When you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult
   (You know this Frank, becuase you've complained that I treat 
    you like a child even though, once, you _did_ add adult 
    value ... remember ... when you gave us the Usenet archives).
b. When you act like a child, Frank, I treat you as a child.

The equation is strategic and simple.

While morons like Cybe R. Wizard, Rene Lamantagne, Wolf K, Char Jackson, et
al. take that strategy as an affront where they need to prove their *right
to troll*, I'm hoping you, Frank Slootweg, still maintain a shred of
decency.

If you, Frank SLootweg, still have a shred of decency left in you, then you
will use you innate intelligence to _improve_ the process - just like you
do whenever the topic of SMB servers come up.

You see, Frank Slootweg, I know you all too well.

Here's what I think about you, Frank Slootweg:
a. You may have the intellectual capacity to _improve_ this process, 
b. But, you haven't proved that yet.

Why don't you _prove_ to us that you have the intellectual capacity.
*Improve the process instead of playing your childish semantic games.*

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