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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break |
| Date | 2018-10-10 08:32 -0700 |
| Organization | no organization |
| Message-ID | <ppl63b$8be$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <ppj9ve$h01$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <g25efmF9d2aU1@mid.individual.net> <ht819f-09q.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <ppkurn$sas$1@dont-email.me> <cid19f-b3u.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 10/10/18 7:05 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 10/10/2018 15.28, Mayayana wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote >> >> | > If you manage to miss this for a such long time, you don't really care >> | > about anything, you just have a certificate as everyone else has it or >> | > there is a regulation that mandates you to have one without really >> | > knowing why. IMHO it's the same as not caring. >> | >> | No, I do not agree. >> | >> >> If you bought the certificate directly then why >> wouldn't you have looked into that? Personally I >> care about privacy but only regard https as a >> nice extra. My webhost handles that and I don't >> know where they're getting the certificate. But >> if you buy it yourself you should know what you're >> buying. And who doesn't know to avoid Symantec? > > I don't. > >> They've got a shady history going all the way back >> to the 90s. > > News to me. O:-) > > I used PCtools back then and it was a wonderful tool. I think I also > used an antivirus from them at some point. > > Later on I switched to Linux, so most Windows software companies are > irrelevant to me. > > >> A similar example would be Wordpress denizens. >> They use Wordpress for hosting because they don't >> know what they're doing. Then they use script >> gadgets that WP provides. Then they don't update >> them because they don't know it matters, so WP >> ends up being a slum of risky websites. >> Should they know what they're doing? Of course. >> Though WP is partially to blame. If they're going to >> enable people with no knowledge to create websites >> then they should also be handling things like updating >> gadget code when fixes are written. > > Why should they know? If I'm a garage owner and they talk me into paying > for a web site to announce my garage, it is very possible that I know > nothing about computers beyond reading my email. > > I know people that own Windows computers with updates disabled for two > or more years. Possibly the person that installed Windows disabled the > updates because otherwise they would get phone calls everyday, LOL. > > So yes, what google or firefox do blocking those web sites with those > certificates is the correct thing to do. > >> But I think in a lot of cases websites are being >> created mainly by graphic artists who are not >> tech-educated. They've just come up with tools >> to "get around that problem". With all the WYSIWYG >> tools available, people just don't need to know what >> they're doing. They're like microwave chefs. > > Exactly. I dunno what you mean by a microwave chef? Maybe people who buy prepared food and warm it up in a microwave? You can do a lot more than that with a microwave to produce delicious and edible food. Just as some artists with a little knowledge can produce perfectly functional web sites but don't blame them for not being administrators of the ISP which should keep the certification up-to-date. There are different areas of knowledge and a person who knows art may not know much about computers and person who know computers may not know much about art or design. That is clearly evident from many otherwise interesting and informative sites which are painful to view. bliss -- bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
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With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-09 08:41 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-09 15:50 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-09 11:35 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:37 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-09 21:00 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2018-10-10 00:28 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-10 02:01 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-10-09 19:54 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break elvis-85650@notatla.org.uk - 2018-10-09 21:53 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-09 14:40 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 23:17 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-09 16:18 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 06:45 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 14:46 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 09:28 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:05 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 10:26 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:23 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-10 08:32 -0700
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:17 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 13:52 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 18:15 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 15:01 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 19:49 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 18:02 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:26 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 18:11 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 20:12 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:42 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-11 10:23 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-11 19:03 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 17:33 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-11 22:00 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2018-10-10 16:22 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:46 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 21:14 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2018-10-11 15:40 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> - 2018-10-11 15:08 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 20:56 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 08:55 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:10 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 10:31 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:49 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:32 +0100
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-10 08:45 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 14:06 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-10 13:44 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:30 +0100
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-11 09:24 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 19:02 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-11 14:12 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 01:01 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Chuck Rhode <CRhode@LacusVeris.com> - 2018-10-12 20:30 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-12 22:05 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Chuck Rhode <CRhode@LacusVeris.com> - 2018-10-13 07:41 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-13 09:59 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-10-15 19:14 +0000
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